Re: [mailop] Debugging fwd issue meta.com to zoho.com (Help from user under meta.com needed)

2024-06-08 Thread Tobias Fiebig via mailop
On Sat, 2024-06-08 at 12:36 +0200, Alessandro Vesely via mailop wrote:
> ... (unless bugs in email-security-scans are just decorative.)

Which ones exactly?

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Tobias

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Re: [mailop] Debugging fwd issue meta.com to zoho.com (Help from user under meta.com needed)

2024-06-08 Thread Alessandro Vesely via mailop

On Sat 08/Jun/2024 13:28:30 +0200 Slavko via mailop wrote:

Dňa 8. júna 2024 10:36:44 UTC používateľ Alessandro Vesely via mailop 
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Yes, as it seems Tobias is going to file a bug against rspamd, I presume you 
are going to somehow fix it (unless bugs in email-security-scans are just 
decorative.)


I have nothing to do with email-security-scans, and very little to do
with rspamd (i only use it)...

Thus no, i will not (be able to) fix anything about this ;-)



Oops, I must have meant Vsevolod.  Sorry, these Slavic names confused me...


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Ale
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Re: [mailop] IPv6 only MX

2024-06-08 Thread Jeff P via mailop


the real server doesn't send directly, but send via a gateway such as 
mail.baby.


Thanks.

However, on the outbound, if the mx.myserver.com sends directly, you may 
run into issues there with servers that don't have a  record on 
their MX - unless you proxy to a smarthost that can do IPv4.

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Re: [mailop] IPv6 only MX

2024-06-08 Thread Faisal Misle via mailop

Ah, you'd be using Cloudflare's email routing. If Cloudflare's MTA can deliver 
over IPv6, you should be ok, as only they would be delivering to the subdomain 
and everyone else would deliver to Cloudflare first. 
However, on the outbound, if the mx.myserver.com sends directly, you may run 
into issues there with servers that don't have a  record on their MX - 
unless you proxy to a smarthost that can do IPv4.
On Saturday, June 08, 2024 12:13 CEST, Jeff P via mailop  
wrote:
 Hello

I was thinking to use cloudflare email routing for incoming messages.

for example,

domain.com points MX to mx.cloudflare.net

And,
sub.domain.com points MX to mx.myserver.com

mx.myserver.com has ipv6 only.

When u...@domain.com gets messages from internet, they are accepted by
cloudflare.
Then clouflare forward them to u...@sub.domain.com.

So user read messages in the mailbox of u...@sub.domain.com.
Surely they can send messages by the sender u...@domain.com.

Thanks for all the kind answers.

regards.



> The interesting things is how is you priority set?
> Is the IPv6 MX the highest?
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Re: [mailop] Debugging fwd issue meta.com to zoho.com (Help from user under meta.com needed)

2024-06-08 Thread Slavko via mailop
Dňa 8. júna 2024 10:36:44 UTC používateľ Alessandro Vesely via mailop 
 napísal:

>Yes, as it seems Tobias is going to file a bug against rspamd, I presume you 
>are going to somehow fix it (unless bugs in email-security-scans are just 
>decorative.)

I have nothing to do with email-security-scans, and very little to do
with rspamd (i only use it)...

Thus no, i will not (be able to) fix anything about this ;-)

regards


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Re: [mailop] Debugging fwd issue meta.com to zoho.com (Help from user under meta.com needed)

2024-06-08 Thread Alessandro Vesely via mailop

On Fri 07/Jun/2024 17:03:00 +0200 Slavko via mailop wrote:

Dňa 7. júna 2024 14:37:24 UTC používateľ Alessandro Vesely via mailop 
 napísal:


If I were Slavko I'd fix rspamd by adding bug reporting (if it's not already 
there) rather than removing 2047-decoding.


Are you sure, that you did mean me?



Yes, as it seems Tobias is going to file a bug against rspamd, I presume you 
are going to somehow fix it (unless bugs in email-security-scans are just 
decorative.)  The fix I propose requires they to also consider DMARC reports, 
which would be cool.



I was just curious about IDNA syntax in this case...



Just got this:

Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
   dkim=pass header.i=@foà.it header.s=gamma header.b=Akp+6zYW;
   spf=pass (google.com: domain of postmaster@foà.it designates 
94.198.96.74 as permitted sender)


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Ale
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Re: [mailop] IPv6 only MX

2024-06-08 Thread Jeff P via mailop

Hello

I was thinking to use cloudflare email routing for incoming messages.

for example,

domain.com points MX to mx.cloudflare.net

And,
sub.domain.com points MX to mx.myserver.com

mx.myserver.com has ipv6 only.

When u...@domain.com gets messages from internet, they are accepted by 
cloudflare.

Then clouflare forward them to u...@sub.domain.com.

So user read messages in the mailbox of u...@sub.domain.com.
Surely they can send messages by the sender u...@domain.com.

Thanks for all the kind answers.

regards.




The interesting things is how is you priority set?
Is the IPv6 MX the highest?

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Re: [mailop] IPv6 only MX

2024-06-08 Thread Ralph Seichter via mailop
* Jeff P. via mailop:

> Can cloudflare (or others) deliver messages correctly to this IPv6 MX?

The longish answer is a resounding "maybe". An IPv6-only MX can be
reached only by those third-party servers which support outbound IPv6
connections on their end. Even in 2024, that is by no means every
server, not even for large organisations who could be expected to
support IPv6. I have done contract work for nominally big players in the
email scene who don't support IPv6 at all on their end, neither for
inbound nor outbound network traffic.

Short version: An IPv6-only MX may work for certain limited usecases,
but will most likely not work in all scenarios. It comes down to
external factors you cannot control.

Personally, I would not attempt to run a production MX without having
public-facing addresses for both IPv4 and IPv6.

-Ralph
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