Re: [mailop] [E] Re: AT Block
On Sat, Jul 6, 2024 at 10:26 AM Marcel Becker via mailop wrote: > > ATT runs their own inbound servers. Lili is not ATT. Please always use > official support channels first. > > That's kind of the issue. Nobody responds when you write abuse_...@abuse-att.net Why is that address included in the rejection message if nobody is going to respond to inquiries sent to that email address? And I've heard the same bull over and over again that the email address likely gets inundated with messages. If that's the case, then figure out a better way to handle inquiries so that you can separate the legitimate inquiries from the not-so legitimate. I like the idea of directing users to a web page where you enter the IP address that is being blocked and a challenge email is sent to postmaster@ to show that the person submitting the concern can speak for the IP address's usage. Or better yet, if you're going to automatically reject new/cold IPs then design a way to announce to AT that these new/cold IPs will soon start sending out mail so that they are not automatically rejected. We're all on this mailing list to learn (aren't we?). Maybe take some of the input you see from the messages on this mailing list and work to improve the systems you offer. If we're all tired of seeing "Anyone from BLANK able to help with the IP BLANK being blocked?" Then perhaps this is a nod to BLANK that they need to do better at handling these inquiries or that their means of blocking IPs is too liberal. ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] [E] Re: AT Block
On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 15:26 Jeff Pang via mailop wrote: > > BTW, you may contact Lili directly who is on this list. ATT runs their own inbound servers. Lili is not ATT. Please always use official support channels first. ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] envelope or header address?
On Fri 05/Jul/2024 23:21:17 +0200 Jeff Pang via mailop wrote: OT question, can return-path be customized by sender MTA/MUA? Or must it be envelope? Return-path, envelop sender, bounce address and MAIL FROM are all synonyms for the same thing. Mailing lists always change it when they forward a message. Mass mailers do so as well. Some plain forwarders, à la dot-forward, change it, either to satisfy SPF (SRS) or in order to have bounces reach someone who can remove the relevant forwarding recipe when its target is removed at the other end. Some others keep it intact, in order to let the original sender become aware of bounces (and thus reveal the final destination.) Best Ale -- ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
[mailop] [ADMIN] Re: AT Block
On 5 July 2024 23:23:08 Jeff Pang via mailop wrote: No. TNL(t-online) is even worse. BTW, you may contact Lili directly who is on this list. Please don't do this again. It's one thing for a representative of an organisation to invite contact off list; it's something else entirely for a third party to make that invitation. Thanks Graeme (wearing list admin hat) ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
