[mailop] Autofiling spam mail in Junk folder
Hi, this email takes inspiration from the long "Do we need Spam folders?" thread, and it specifically concerns how to take advantage of MUAs and possibly cloud providers ability to automatically move mails marked as spam to the dedicated junk folder. We deliver "cloud" antispam protection like many others, meaning that we scan emails, do our things, and, for what survives smtp rejection, we add some headers and deliver to the destination mail server. For people that reads mails with Thunderbird, we tell them to enable the "Trust SpamAssassin headers" option to have the emails automatically moved to the Junk folder by the MUA, but for customers using Outlook 201* I wasn't able to find anything like that. Does anybody knows a way to tell Outlook to do what Thunderbird does? Maybe by faking the X-Forefront-Antispam-Report? Thanks for any hint you could give and apologies if this is too much OT Daniele Duca ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Autofiling spam mail in Junk folder
On Wed, 2019-10-23 at 12:08 +0200, Daniele Duca via mailop wrote: > Does anybody knows a way > to tell Outlook to do what Thunderbird does? You can set up local mail filtering rules in Outlook to place certain emails in a folder. Is that what you mean? Ken. ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Autofiling spam mail in Junk folder
On 23/10/19 13:09, Ken O'Driscoll via mailop wrote: You can set up local mail filtering rules in Outlook to place certain emails in a folder. Is that what you mean? The problem is that explaining end users to create a filter is much more time consuming that just say "Go to Account Settings -> Junk settings and enable Trust junk mail headers set by SpamAssassin" if they use Thunderbird. I'm trying to cut down time spent on end-user support :) Daniele ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Autofiling spam mail in Junk folder
On Wed, 2019-10-23 at 13:21 +0200, Daniele Duca via mailop wrote: > On 23/10/19 13:09, Ken O'Driscoll via mailop wrote: > > > > > You can set up local mail filtering rules in Outlook to place certain > > emails in a folder. Is that what you mean? > > The problem is that explaining end users to create a filter is much more > time consuming that just say "Go to Account Settings -> Junk settings > and enable Trust junk mail headers set by SpamAssassin" if they use > Thunderbird. I'm trying to cut down time spent on end-user support :) > If you're delivering to a local Exchange server with a message store then you can configure the filter on the server and it will move emails to the spam folder for each user. The level of knowledge to achieve that is within the realms of whoever set up the server in the first place. Similar can be achieved with other on-site solutions. If you're the one providing mailbox hosting then just do it yourself or make it an option for the end users to opt-in to. This is all pretty basic functionality which have been around for years so perhaps I'm missing something? Ken. ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Autofiling spam mail in Junk folder
On 23/10/19 13:36, Ken O'Driscoll via mailop wrote: If you're delivering to a local Exchange server with a message store then you can configure the filter on the server and it will move emails to the spam folder for each user. The level of knowledge to achieve that is within the realms of whoever set up the server in the first place. In an ideal world I'd agree with you 100%, but unfortunately I could tell you a lot of horror stories about the supposed "realm of knowledge" that some so called system administrators/mail operators have :) If you're the one providing mailbox hosting then just do it yourself or make it an option for the end users to opt-in to. Yes, locally we use sieve and it works perfectly This is all pretty basic functionality which have been around for years so perhaps I'm missing something? Basically I'm looking for a header that, if seen by Outlook, automatically moves the mail to the junk folder, similarly to Tbird... but I'm probably too optimistic that something like that exists. Daniele ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop