Re: [mailop] Malformed To: header

2023-12-30 Thread Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop
> > > recently i see messages from this ML rejected by my MTA, due
> > > malformed To: header (from postmas...@inter-corporate.com):
> > >
> > >To: mailop@mailop.org 
> 
> Unrelated to the question of whether or not @ merits escaping or quoting...
> 
> I personally wouldn't put an email address in the "friendly to" (the
> bit between the To: and <). You will find some providers and spam
> filters will consider that a sign of badness. I ran into this
> personally back on November 30th, though apparently I didn't save the
> NDR so I can't tell you which filter it was. I ended up modifying my
> own mailing list manager to strip email addresses out of the
> "friendly" bit of email headers.

Thanks Al (I think I remember you from NANAE many years ago).

I don't intentionally add @ symbols in the "friendly to" field, but 
this time it happened by mistake.  I agree with your assessment.

> Cheers,
> Al Iverson

Happy New Year.

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Re: [mailop] Malformed To: header

2023-12-30 Thread Al Iverson via mailop
> > recently i see messages from this ML rejected by my MTA, due
> > malformed To: header (from postmas...@inter-corporate.com):
> >
> >To: mailop@mailop.org 

Unrelated to the question of whether or not @ merits escaping or quoting...

I personally wouldn't put an email address in the "friendly to" (the
bit between the To: and <). You will find some providers and spam
filters will consider that a sign of badness. I ran into this
personally back on November 30th, though apparently I didn't save the
NDR so I can't tell you which filter it was. I ended up modifying my
own mailing list manager to strip email addresses out of the
"friendly" bit of email headers.

Cheers,
Al Iverson


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Re: [mailop] Malformed To: header

2023-12-30 Thread Andrew C Aitchison via mailop

On Sat, 30 Dec 2023, Slavko via mailop wrote:


Hi,

recently i see messages from this ML rejected by my MTA, due
malformed To: header (from postmas...@inter-corporate.com):

   To: mailop@mailop.org 

AFAIK, the display name have to be quoted (@ char in it), thus
my MTA is right, but...

Please, am i too strict with this syntax check or this ML is too
lax in that (or both)?


I've been seeing similar errors in my exim logs.
Thanks to Slavko for pointing it out and Randolf for fixing it.

Funny thing was that logwatch objected to the unusual
whitespacing that exim put into the log,
so it was particularly visible.

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Re: [mailop] Malformed To: header

2023-12-30 Thread Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop
Indeed, you are correct -- according to section 3.2.3 in RFC 5322, 
the at ("@") symbol counts as a "special" character that's 
categorized seprarately from "atext," and an example in Appendix A 
demonstrates quoting when a special character is present:

RFC 5322 :: Internet Message Format
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5322#section-3.2.3

Thanks for pointing out my PEBCAK* error -- I somehow got the eMail 
address included in the atext Atom of the "From:" field. :D

Sorry about that.

* PEBCAK:  Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard

> Hi,
> 
> recently i see messages from this ML rejected by my MTA, due
> malformed To: header (from postmas...@inter-corporate.com):
> 
> To: mailop@mailop.org 
> 
> AFAIK, the display name have to be quoted (@ char in it), thus
> my MTA is right, but...
> 
> Please, am i too strict with this syntax check or this ML is too
> lax in that (or both)?
> 
> regards
> 
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> https://www.slavino.sk/
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[mailop] Malformed To: header

2023-12-30 Thread Slavko via mailop
Hi,

recently i see messages from this ML rejected by my MTA, due
malformed To: header (from postmas...@inter-corporate.com):

To: mailop@mailop.org 

AFAIK, the display name have to be quoted (@ char in it), thus
my MTA is right, but...

Please, am i too strict with this syntax check or this ML is too
lax in that (or both)?

regards

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