Re: [mailop] Who runs the mailspike BL and why are they blocking Yahoo?
Mailspike is the worst RBL that we test (out of 33). They have the lowest catch rate (last month: 41.9%) and a high false positive rate. Even ReturnPath and SORBS do better. It's hardly worth using them, unless you're slightly adjusting your spam score based on their opinion, rather than just refusing the message. And that seems to defeat the main beauty of a RBL being the "we R not going to accept that message Right now thank you here's 400 for your trouble" part. The best no-cost RBL right now is Barracuda's, although the commercial ones (Cisco, Trend, Spamhaus, Proofpoint) are all better. Not that this helps with your problem with Mailspike & Yahoo!, but I figured that putting it on the record might be useful when people start researching whether to continue to use Mailspike or not. jms -- Joel M Snyder, 1404 East Lind Road, Tucson, AZ, 85719 Senior Partner, Opus One Phone: +1 520 324 0494 j...@opus1.comhttp://www.opus1.com/jms ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Who runs the mailspike BL and why are they blocking Yahoo?
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 21:04:01 +, Steven Champeon via mailop wrote: >It's been a while since I talked with Joao but back then it was purely >trap-driven, it was my understanding that it was intended to be used in >a scoring context rather than binary black/white blocking. They've since >been purchased by Bitsight, perhaps Stephen Boyer can explain better. The networks or sender mentioned, especially the Y! infrastructure have had indiviual IPs autobanned here recently after sending to "instant fatality" traps. Another trap-driven infrastructure would probably develop the blocks noted. mdr ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Who runs the mailspike BL and why are they blocking Yahoo?
on Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 04:02:11PM -0400, John Levine via mailop wrote: > In article <20200319185924.gb20...@dm7.infinitemho.fi> you write: > >On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 02:40:23PM -0400, John Levine via mailop wrote: > >> One of my users reported that I was rejecting mail from Yahoo, and I found > >> it > >> was because at least one of Yahoo's outbound addresses 74.6.128.32 is > >> listed > >> at bl.mailspike.net. > > > >If you google "mailspike", the first hit has "AnubisNetworks" on it. > > I see they're also blocking Gofundme and Constant Contact. Again, not > pristine but vast numbers of false positives. > > Nothing personal but I won't be using their BL again any time soon. It's been a while since I talked with Joao but back then it was purely trap-driven, it was my understanding that it was intended to be used in a scoring context rather than binary black/white blocking. They've since been purchased by Bitsight, perhaps Stephen Boyer can explain better. https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephenwboyer/ HTH, Steve -- hesketh.com/inc. v: +1(919)834-2552 f: +1(919)834-2553 w: http://hesketh.com/ Internet security and antispam hostname intelligence: http://enemieslist.com/ ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Who runs the mailspike BL and why are they blocking Yahoo?
> I see they're also blocking Gofundme and Constant Contact. Again, not > pristine but vast numbers of false positives. > > Nothing personal but I won't be using their BL again any time soon. Not my circus, not my monkeys... Pozdrawiam, -- Atro Tossavainen, Founder, Partner Koli-Lõks OÜ (reg. no. 12815457, VAT ID EE101811635) Tallinn, Estonia tel. +372-5883-4269, http://www.koliloks.eu/ ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Who runs the mailspike BL and why are they blocking Yahoo?
In article <20200319185924.gb20...@dm7.infinitemho.fi> you write: >On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 02:40:23PM -0400, John Levine via mailop wrote: >> One of my users reported that I was rejecting mail from Yahoo, and I found it >> was because at least one of Yahoo's outbound addresses 74.6.128.32 is listed >> at bl.mailspike.net. > >If you google "mailspike", the first hit has "AnubisNetworks" on it. I see they're also blocking Gofundme and Constant Contact. Again, not pristine but vast numbers of false positives. Nothing personal but I won't be using their BL again any time soon. ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Who runs the mailspike BL and why are they blocking Yahoo?
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 02:40:23PM -0400, John Levine via mailop wrote: > One of my users reported that I was rejecting mail from Yahoo, and I found it > was because at least one of Yahoo's outbound addresses 74.6.128.32 is listed > at bl.mailspike.net. If you google "mailspike", the first hit has "AnubisNetworks" on it. This is https://www.linkedin.com/company/anubisnetworks/ Practically everyone in our little circle is connected to João Gouveia, CTO. TBH I was rather surprised that you weren't yet. > I realize that Yahoo's mail is hardly pristine but surely we agree > that they're in the too big to block category. I'll be happy to introduce you to João on LI if you feel uncomfortable sending an invite directly. Cheers, -- Atro Tossavainen, Chairman of the Board Infinite Mho Oy, Helsinki, Finland tel. +358-44-5000 600, http://www.infinitemho.fi/ ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
[mailop] Who runs the mailspike BL and why are they blocking Yahoo?
One of my users reported that I was rejecting mail from Yahoo, and I found it was because at least one of Yahoo's outbound addresses 74.6.128.32 is listed at bl.mailspike.net. I realize that Yahoo's mail is hardly pristine but surely we agree that they're in the too big to block category. R's, John PS: I'm getting a lot more mail from Google than from Yahoo this month, mostly random looking hit and run stuff. Sometimes there are real people who respond so I can set them up a phone call with Lenny. ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
