Re: [mailop] Sendgrid is giving others anti-abuse/security advice? Wow!

2021-02-13 Thread Noel Butler via mailop

On 12/02/2021 04:26, Stefano Bagnara via mailop wrote:


On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 18:49, Rob McEwen via mailop

He's not even trying to let people guess Sendgrid is good at preventing 
abuses.


Why would he? because they are not good at it, sendgrid are blocked 
here, have been for w months


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Re: [mailop] Sendgrid is giving others anti-abuse/security advice? Wow!

2021-02-13 Thread Camille - Clean Mailbox via mailop
+1 :)

> Le 13 févr. 2021 à 01:21, Stefano Bagnara via mailop  a 
> écrit :
> 
> On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 18:49, Rob McEwen via mailop  
> wrote:
>> These questions! WOW! IS THIS FOR REAL? Don't get me wrong, I like Len 
>> Shneyder
>> and I think he's a good person TRYING to do the right thing - but - 
>> considering what is coming
>> FROM SendGrid in recent years, is this the right time to be giving OTHERS 
>> anti-abuse/security
>> advice? Just... wow! I think they should instead consider trying to "lead by 
>> example".
>> The world would certainly become a MUCH better place!
>> https://martechseries.com/mts-insights/tech-bytes/len-shneyder-twilio-sendgrid/
> 
> I didn't read anti-abuse and security advices in the article.
> 
> He's just talking about how DMARC evolved and the role of social
> engineering in phishing.
> 
> He's not even trying to let people guess Sendgrid is good at preventing 
> abuses.
> 
> no "Wow" here :-)
> 
> Stefano
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Re: [mailop] Sendgrid is giving others anti-abuse/security advice? Wow!

2021-02-12 Thread Stefano Bagnara via mailop
On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 18:49, Rob McEwen via mailop  wrote:
> These questions! WOW! IS THIS FOR REAL? Don't get me wrong, I like Len 
> Shneyder
> and I think he's a good person TRYING to do the right thing - but - 
> considering what is coming
> FROM SendGrid in recent years, is this the right time to be giving OTHERS 
> anti-abuse/security
> advice? Just... wow! I think they should instead consider trying to "lead by 
> example".
> The world would certainly become a MUCH better place!
> https://martechseries.com/mts-insights/tech-bytes/len-shneyder-twilio-sendgrid/

I didn't read anti-abuse and security advices in the article.

He's just talking about how DMARC evolved and the role of social
engineering in phishing.

He's not even trying to let people guess Sendgrid is good at preventing abuses.

no "Wow" here :-)

Stefano

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Re: [mailop] Sendgrid is giving others anti-abuse/security advice? Wow!

2021-02-11 Thread Noel Butler via mailop

On 12/02/2021 03:40, Rob McEwen via mailop wrote:

These questions! WOW! IS THIS FOR REAL? Don't get me wrong, I like Len 
Shneyder and I think he's a good person TRYING to do the right thing - 
but - considering what is coming FROM SendGrid in recent years, is this 
the right time to be giving OTHERS anti-abuse/security advice? Just... 
wow! I think they should instead consider trying to "lead by example". 
The world would certainly become a MUCH better place!


https://martechseries.com/mts-insights/tech-bytes/len-shneyder-twilio-sendgrid/

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" given that 80% of email inboxes around the world are validating 
DMARC."


LOL

I think that figure is a tad optimistic, probably more like 8% and even 
might be a bit generous


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Re: [mailop] Sendgrid is giving others anti-abuse/security advice? Wow!

2021-02-11 Thread Al Iverson via mailop
How is this post related to a current specific operational concern?
I'm not seeing how it's on topic.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 11:52 AM Rob McEwen via mailop
 wrote:
>
> These questions! WOW! IS THIS FOR REAL? Don't get me wrong, I like Len 
> Shneyder and I think he's a good person TRYING to do the right thing - but - 
> considering what is coming FROM SendGrid in recent years, is this the right 
> time to be giving OTHERS anti-abuse/security advice? Just... wow! I think 
> they should instead consider trying to "lead by example". The world would 
> certainly become a MUCH better place!
> https://martechseries.com/mts-insights/tech-bytes/len-shneyder-twilio-sendgrid/
>
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