Re: VIRGIL: Early Vergil printings and another request
A few last notes on Virgil MSS. in the At 11:35 AM 8/23/2002 -0400, I wrote: >For modern editions, the most important codices are (according to E. >Courtney) as follows: Mediceus (Laurentian Lib. 39.1 and Vatican lat. 3225 >fol. 76), Romanus (Vatican lat. 3867), and Palatinus (Vatican, Pal. lat. >1631). Palatinus was in Heidelberg until 1618, and therefore had little or >no influence on Italian editions of Virgil's work in this period. Venier >now confirms that Mediceus was used in the second printed edition of >Virgil's works (1471). Mediceus and Romanus were also used by the most >important of Virgil's textual critics for this period, Pierius Valerianus, >on which see below. I have been doing some more reading on this subject, and need to make two corrections: 1. According to Vladimiro Zabughin, Vergilio nel rinascimento italiano (1923), 2:99 n. 20, Valeriano's "codex Mediceus" was not THE codex Mediceus (Laurenziano 39.1), which dates back to the fifth century A.D., but merely _a_ codex Mediceus (Laurenziano 39.23) which Zabughin places in the twelfth century. Note, by the way, how Zabughin spells "Vergilio"; 2. Venier's data does not refute the hypothesis that the real Mediceus was used in the 1469 edition, but does not confirm it, either. Looking at Venier's collation samples, I'm guessing that M probably _was_ used in the 1469 edition and that more collations would demonstrate it conclusively, but Venier is cautious on this point, and insists very rightly that we can't yet rule out convergent readings from an independent source. On the other hand, we do know that at least one scholar was looking at M in the fifteenth century, because he annotated it in his own handwriting: his name was Pomponio Leto and his corrections are recorded in Geymonat. --- David Wilson-Okamurahttp://virgil.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] East Carolina UniversityVirgil reception, discussion, documents, &c --- --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
RE: VIRGIL: Early Vergil printings and another request
As the only (?) art historian on the list, I will do my best to find a miniature bust of Poliziano. Can I scan images and send them to the list? I think we could all do with Angelo P. on our monitors! Emma Guest-Consales -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Wilson-Okamura Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 8:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VIRGIL: Early Vergil printings and another request At 11:35 AM 8/23/2002 -0400, I wrote: >... the situation is hopeless for anything beyond the >Carolingian period -- until c. 1470, when Virgil gets into print. Looks like I spoke too soon. I've spent a couple of very happy days with Venier, and among the many topics he deals with in _Per una storia del testo di Virgilio nella prima eta\ del libro a stampa (1469-1519)_ is the character of "la vulgata umanistica" in the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries. Of special interest are the interpolated verses that do not appear in Carolingian MSS. (including some verses that appear to derive, by way of a composite vita, from Servius auctus). See ch. 1, Osservazioni sulla tradizione manoscritta nei secoli XIV e XV. On the subject of Venier's book more generally, I mentioned its appearance in February and posted a translation of its contents (see below, with some additions). My first impressions were positive, and now that I've actually read the thing I'm happy to report that, on closer inspection, the book is every bit as good as it looks (and it is a very handsome little paperback). Needless to say, it's not a book for the incurious. Basically, it's an attempt to identify the manuscripts that stand behind the early printed editions. If this doesn't milk your goat, you should probably look elsewhere for mental sustenance. If, on the other hand, you have a miniature bust of Poliziano on your computer monitor, you will find much to savor. Matteo Venier, _Per una storia del testo di Virgilio nella prima eta\ del libro a stampa (1469-1519)_ (Udine: Forum, 2001). xxii+158 pp. Table of Contents: Preface Bibliographical abbreviations 1. Observations on the manuscript tradition in the 14th and 15th centuries - Codices examined - The "humanistic vulgate" [including the status of the Helen digression] - MSS. with interpolations drawn from Servius - MSS. copied from printed editions 2. Editions in print in the 15th century - The editio princeps edited by Giovanni Andrea Bussi - The Mentelin edition - Editions derived from the first Roman printing - The edition of Vindelinus de Spira and its progeny - The second Roman printing: the Medici codex and the Pomponian variants - The editions of Leonardus Achates 3. Virgil editions, 1500-1520 - The first Aldine - The second Aldine - The edition of Giovanni Battista Egnazio - The Giunt edition edited by Benedetto Riccardini [includes a fun account of where Riccardini got his info about the codex Romanus (Poliziano), how he handled it (irresponsibly), and what Valeriano had to say about him (nothing good)] - The third Aldine and some observations on the formation of a system of punctuation - Conclusions - Stemma of editions Appendix I: Corrections to the app. crit. in current editions (Ribbeck, Mynors, Geymonat) Appendix II: On discrepancies between the first and second Giunt editions Conspectus siglorum Index of manuscripts Index of Virgil editions Index of names -- This book was available for purchase earlier this year at http://www.libroco.it but I haven't checked back since the spring. If anyone knows where I can find a miniature bust of Poliziano, please email me privately. --- David Wilson-Okamurahttp://virgil.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] East Carolina UniversityVirgil reception, discussion, documents, &c --- --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
Re: VIRGIL: Early Vergil printings and another request
This sounds exactly what we need here! Thanks Helen COB On Wednesday, August 28, 2002, at 12:02 AM, David Wilson-Okamura wrote: At 11:35 AM 8/23/2002 -0400, I wrote: ... the situation is hopeless for anything beyond the Carolingian period -- until c. 1470, when Virgil gets into print. Looks like I spoke too soon. I've spent a couple of very happy days with Venier, and among the many topics he deals with in _Per una storia del testo di Virgilio nella prima eta\ del libro a stampa (1469-1519)_ is the character of "la vulgata umanistica" in the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries. Of special interest are the interpolated verses that do not appear in Carolingian MSS. (including some verses that appear to derive, by way of a composite vita, from Servius auctus). See ch. 1, Osservazioni sulla tradizione manoscritta nei secoli XIV e XV. On the subject of Venier's book more generally, I mentioned its appearance in February and posted a translation of its contents (see below, with some additions). My first impressions were positive, and now that I've actually read the thing I'm happy to report that, on closer inspection, the book is every bit as good as it looks (and it is a very handsome little paperback). Needless to say, it's not a book for the incurious. Basically, it's an attempt to identify the manuscripts that stand behind the early printed editions. If this doesn't milk your goat, you should probably look elsewhere for mental sustenance. If, on the other hand, you have a miniature bust of Poliziano on your computer monitor, you will find much to savor. Matteo Venier, _Per una storia del testo di Virgilio nella prima eta\ del libro a stampa (1469-1519)_ (Udine: Forum, 2001). xxii+158 pp. Table of Contents: Preface Bibliographical abbreviations 1. Observations on the manuscript tradition in the 14th and 15th centuries - Codices examined - The "humanistic vulgate" [including the status of the Helen digression] - MSS. with interpolations drawn from Servius - MSS. copied from printed editions 2. Editions in print in the 15th century - The editio princeps edited by Giovanni Andrea Bussi - The Mentelin edition - Editions derived from the first Roman printing - The edition of Vindelinus de Spira and its progeny - The second Roman printing: the Medici codex and the Pomponian variants - The editions of Leonardus Achates 3. Virgil editions, 1500-1520 - The first Aldine - The second Aldine - The edition of Giovanni Battista Egnazio - The Giunt edition edited by Benedetto Riccardini [includes a fun account of where Riccardini got his info about the codex Romanus (Poliziano), how he handled it (irresponsibly), and what Valeriano had to say about him (nothing good)] - The third Aldine and some observations on the formation of a system of punctuation - Conclusions - Stemma of editions Appendix I: Corrections to the app. crit. in current editions (Ribbeck, Mynors, Geymonat) Appendix II: On discrepancies between the first and second Giunt editions Conspectus siglorum Index of manuscripts Index of Virgil editions Index of names -- This book was available for purchase earlier this year at http://www.libroco.it but I haven't checked back since the spring. If anyone knows where I can find a miniature bust of Poliziano, please email me privately. --- David Wilson-Okamurahttp://virgil.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] East Carolina UniversityVirgil reception, discussion, documents, &c --- --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
Re: VIRGIL: Early Vergil printings and another request
At 11:35 AM 8/23/2002 -0400, I wrote: >... the situation is hopeless for anything beyond the >Carolingian period -- until c. 1470, when Virgil gets into print. Looks like I spoke too soon. I've spent a couple of very happy days with Venier, and among the many topics he deals with in _Per una storia del testo di Virgilio nella prima eta\ del libro a stampa (1469-1519)_ is the character of "la vulgata umanistica" in the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries. Of special interest are the interpolated verses that do not appear in Carolingian MSS. (including some verses that appear to derive, by way of a composite vita, from Servius auctus). See ch. 1, Osservazioni sulla tradizione manoscritta nei secoli XIV e XV. On the subject of Venier's book more generally, I mentioned its appearance in February and posted a translation of its contents (see below, with some additions). My first impressions were positive, and now that I've actually read the thing I'm happy to report that, on closer inspection, the book is every bit as good as it looks (and it is a very handsome little paperback). Needless to say, it's not a book for the incurious. Basically, it's an attempt to identify the manuscripts that stand behind the early printed editions. If this doesn't milk your goat, you should probably look elsewhere for mental sustenance. If, on the other hand, you have a miniature bust of Poliziano on your computer monitor, you will find much to savor. Matteo Venier, _Per una storia del testo di Virgilio nella prima eta\ del libro a stampa (1469-1519)_ (Udine: Forum, 2001). xxii+158 pp. Table of Contents: Preface Bibliographical abbreviations 1. Observations on the manuscript tradition in the 14th and 15th centuries - Codices examined - The "humanistic vulgate" [including the status of the Helen digression] - MSS. with interpolations drawn from Servius - MSS. copied from printed editions 2. Editions in print in the 15th century - The editio princeps edited by Giovanni Andrea Bussi - The Mentelin edition - Editions derived from the first Roman printing - The edition of Vindelinus de Spira and its progeny - The second Roman printing: the Medici codex and the Pomponian variants - The editions of Leonardus Achates 3. Virgil editions, 1500-1520 - The first Aldine - The second Aldine - The edition of Giovanni Battista Egnazio - The Giunt edition edited by Benedetto Riccardini [includes a fun account of where Riccardini got his info about the codex Romanus (Poliziano), how he handled it (irresponsibly), and what Valeriano had to say about him (nothing good)] - The third Aldine and some observations on the formation of a system of punctuation - Conclusions - Stemma of editions Appendix I: Corrections to the app. crit. in current editions (Ribbeck, Mynors, Geymonat) Appendix II: On discrepancies between the first and second Giunt editions Conspectus siglorum Index of manuscripts Index of Virgil editions Index of names -- This book was available for purchase earlier this year at http://www.libroco.it but I haven't checked back since the spring. If anyone knows where I can find a miniature bust of Poliziano, please email me privately. --- David Wilson-Okamurahttp://virgil.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] East Carolina UniversityVirgil reception, discussion, documents, &c --- --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
Re: VIRGIL: Early Vergil printings and another request
Than you all very much for all the information, bibliography, and good advice. Helen COB On Friday, August 23, 2002, at 03:35 PM, David Wilson-Okamura wrote: At 09:58 AM 8/23/2002 +0100, James Butrica wrote: Some partial suggestions have been made for secondary sources on early editions, but for a complete inventory of incunabula I suspect that you would have to create your own from Hain and the other reference works devoted to listing them (and even then you would ideally try to track down copies of the editions, since these reference works sometimes contain "ghost" editions that do not actually exist). This work has now been done; see: Davies, Martin, and John Goldfinch. _Vergil: A Census of Printed Editions 1469-1500_. Occasional Papers of the Bibliographical Society 7. London: The Bibliographical Society, 1992. There is even an appendix of probable ghosts! As to affinities, I assume that you mean textual ones, and I suspect that this would prove a dead end: if your interest is how the editions might be related to the important early mss of Virgil, there is probably no connection at all (some of those mss were certainly known to Renaissance scholars like Pontano and Poliziano and Leto but I have never heard that any of them was used for an early edition -- a good thing, too, since old mss could simply get thrown away once they had served their purpose: one of the Aldine editors destroyed a fifth-century uncial ms of Pliny's letters after using it for his edition); For modern editions, the most important codices are (according to E. Courtney) as follows: Mediceus (Laurentian Lib. 39.1 and Vatican lat. 3225 fol. 76), Romanus (Vatican lat. 3867), and Palatinus (Vatican, Pal. lat. 1631). Palatinus was in Heidelberg until 1618, and therefore had little or no influence on Italian editions of Virgil's work in this period. Venier now confirms that Mediceus was used in the second printed edition of Virgil's works (1471). Mediceus and Romanus were also used by the most important of Virgil's textual critics for this period, Pierius Valerianus, on which see below. and if you mean their relationship to each other and to the "vulgate" of the late 15th century, that would be impossible to pursue since, to the best of my knowledge, no-one has explored the Virgilian ms tradition beyond the Carolingian period (where it is already hopelessly contaminated) and so no-one is really in a position to say what was in the "vulgate" at any subsequent period, least of all in Italy in the Renaissance. I agree with James that the situation is hopeless for anything beyond the Carolingian period -- until c. 1470, when Virgil gets into print. For printed texts in the years 1470-1514, there is now a stemma in Venier (pp. 136-37). After that, I think you could safely derive a vulgate text from one of the following: (a) the Aldine octavos, which were endlessly pirated (b) the apparatus criticus provided by the aforementioned Valerianus, which was endlessly reprinted. --- David Wilson-Okamurahttp://virgil.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] East Carolina UniversityVirgil reception, discussion, documents, &c --- --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
Re: VIRGIL: Early Vergil printings and another request
PE scripsit: >I would like for some one on the list to give some advice about how to train >ap students to gain not a 4 but get a 5 on the vergil ap exam. I would like >it in lesson plans, tests, and quizzes. Why, what a wonderful segue to send out a general "heads up" about the AP-LATIN list, sponsored by the College Board. What better way to start off the year by subscribing and finding out all sorts of tips and tricks and techniques that will help you with both the Vergil and the Latin Literature AP Exams! Please feel to contact me off-list if you'd like to subscribe! Bob White AP-LATIN List Moderator (heh-heh) Robert T. White Shaker Heights HS Shaker Heights OH [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
Re: VIRGIL: Early Vergil printings and another request
I would like for some one on the list to give some advice about how to train ap students to gain not a 4 but get a 5 on the vergil ap exam. I would like it in lesson plans, tests, and quizzes. -- >From: David Wilson-Okamura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: VIRGIL: Early Vergil printings and another request >Date: Fri, Aug 23, 2002, 3:35 PM > > At 09:58 AM 8/23/2002 +0100, James Butrica wrote: >>Some partial suggestions have been made for secondary sources on early >>editions, but for a complete inventory of incunabula I suspect that you >>would have to create your own from Hain and the other reference works >>devoted to listing them (and even then you would ideally try to track down >>copies of the editions, since these reference works sometimes contain >>"ghost" editions that do not actually exist). > > This work has now been done; see: > > Davies, Martin, and John Goldfinch. _Vergil: A Census of Printed Editions > 1469-1500_. Occasional Papers of the Bibliographical Society 7. London: The > Bibliographical Society, 1992. > > There is even an appendix of probable ghosts! > >>As to affinities, I assume that you mean textual ones, and I suspect that >>this would prove a dead end: if your interest is how the editions might be >>related to the important early mss of Virgil, there is probably no >>connection at all (some of those mss were certainly known to Renaissance >>scholars like Pontano and Poliziano and Leto but I have never heard that >>any of them was used for an early edition -- a good thing, too, since old >>mss could simply get thrown away once they had served their purpose: one of >>the Aldine editors destroyed a fifth-century uncial ms of Pliny's letters >>after using it for his edition); > > For modern editions, the most important codices are (according to E. > Courtney) as follows: Mediceus (Laurentian Lib. 39.1 and Vatican lat. 3225 > fol. 76), Romanus (Vatican lat. 3867), and Palatinus (Vatican, Pal. lat. > 1631). Palatinus was in Heidelberg until 1618, and therefore had little or > no influence on Italian editions of Virgil's work in this period. Venier > now confirms that Mediceus was used in the second printed edition of > Virgil's works (1471). Mediceus and Romanus were also used by the most > important of Virgil's textual critics for this period, Pierius Valerianus, > on which see below. > >> and if you mean their relationship to each >>other and to the "vulgate" of the late 15th century, that would be >>impossible to pursue since, to the best of my knowledge, no-one has >>explored the Virgilian ms tradition beyond the Carolingian period (where it >>is already hopelessly contaminated) and so no-one is really in a position >>to say what was in the "vulgate" at any subsequent period, least of all in >>Italy in the Renaissance. > > I agree with James that the situation is hopeless for anything beyond the > Carolingian period -- until c. 1470, when Virgil gets into print. For > printed texts in the years 1470-1514, there is now a stemma in Venier (pp. > 136-37). After that, I think you could safely derive a vulgate text from > one of the following: > > (a) the Aldine octavos, which were endlessly pirated > (b) the apparatus criticus provided by the aforementioned Valerianus, which > was endlessly reprinted. > > > > --- > David Wilson-Okamurahttp://virgil.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] > East Carolina UniversityVirgil reception, discussion, documents, &c > --- > --- > To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. > Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message > "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You > can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
Re: VIRGIL: Early Vergil printings and another request
At 09:58 AM 8/23/2002 +0100, James Butrica wrote: >Some partial suggestions have been made for secondary sources on early >editions, but for a complete inventory of incunabula I suspect that you >would have to create your own from Hain and the other reference works >devoted to listing them (and even then you would ideally try to track down >copies of the editions, since these reference works sometimes contain >"ghost" editions that do not actually exist). This work has now been done; see: Davies, Martin, and John Goldfinch. _Vergil: A Census of Printed Editions 1469-1500_. Occasional Papers of the Bibliographical Society 7. London: The Bibliographical Society, 1992. There is even an appendix of probable ghosts! >As to affinities, I assume that you mean textual ones, and I suspect that >this would prove a dead end: if your interest is how the editions might be >related to the important early mss of Virgil, there is probably no >connection at all (some of those mss were certainly known to Renaissance >scholars like Pontano and Poliziano and Leto but I have never heard that >any of them was used for an early edition -- a good thing, too, since old >mss could simply get thrown away once they had served their purpose: one of >the Aldine editors destroyed a fifth-century uncial ms of Pliny's letters >after using it for his edition); For modern editions, the most important codices are (according to E. Courtney) as follows: Mediceus (Laurentian Lib. 39.1 and Vatican lat. 3225 fol. 76), Romanus (Vatican lat. 3867), and Palatinus (Vatican, Pal. lat. 1631). Palatinus was in Heidelberg until 1618, and therefore had little or no influence on Italian editions of Virgil's work in this period. Venier now confirms that Mediceus was used in the second printed edition of Virgil's works (1471). Mediceus and Romanus were also used by the most important of Virgil's textual critics for this period, Pierius Valerianus, on which see below. > and if you mean their relationship to each >other and to the "vulgate" of the late 15th century, that would be >impossible to pursue since, to the best of my knowledge, no-one has >explored the Virgilian ms tradition beyond the Carolingian period (where it >is already hopelessly contaminated) and so no-one is really in a position >to say what was in the "vulgate" at any subsequent period, least of all in >Italy in the Renaissance. I agree with James that the situation is hopeless for anything beyond the Carolingian period -- until c. 1470, when Virgil gets into print. For printed texts in the years 1470-1514, there is now a stemma in Venier (pp. 136-37). After that, I think you could safely derive a vulgate text from one of the following: (a) the Aldine octavos, which were endlessly pirated (b) the apparatus criticus provided by the aforementioned Valerianus, which was endlessly reprinted. --- David Wilson-Okamurahttp://virgil.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] East Carolina UniversityVirgil reception, discussion, documents, &c --- --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
Re: VIRGIL: Early Vergil printings and another request
>Could someone suggest to an unreconstructed early medievalist a good >discussion of incunabula Vergils? >Might I also ask for suggestions on what passages the group would >suggest for collation in a text of the Aeneid to establish possible >affinities. >Helen COB > Some partial suggestions have been made for secondary sources on early editions, but for a complete inventory of incunabula I suspect that you would have to create your own from Hain and the other reference works devoted to listing them (and even then you would ideally try to track down copies of the editions, since these reference works sometimes contain "ghost" editions that do not actually exist). As to affinities, I assume that you mean textual ones, and I suspect that this would prove a dead end: if your interest is how the editions might be related to the important early mss of Virgil, there is probably no connection at all (some of those mss were certainly known to Renaissance scholars like Pontano and Poliziano and Leto but I have never heard that any of them was used for an early edition -- a good thing, too, since old mss could simply get thrown away once they had served their purpose: one of the Aldine editors destroyed a fifth-century uncial ms of Pliny's letters after using it for his edition); and if you mean their relationship to each other and to the "vulgate" of the late 15th century, that would be impossible to pursue since, to the best of my knowledge, no-one has explored the Virgilian ms tradition beyond the Carolingian period (where it is already hopelessly contaminated) and so no-one is really in a position to say what was in the "vulgate" at any subsequent period, least of all in Italy in the Renaissance. James L. P. Butrica Department of Classics The Memorial University of Newfoundland St. John's NL A1C 5S7 (709) 737-7914 --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
Re: VIRGIL: Early Vergil printings and another request
dear Helen thank u! i love u! V. From: "Helen Conrad-O'Briain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VIRGIL: Early Vergil printings and another request Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:38:44 + Dear Leofranc, I knew you would come through! Helen --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
Re: VIRGIL: Early Vergil printings and another request
Dear Leofranc, I knew you would come through! Helen --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
Re: VIRGIL: Early Vergil printings and another request
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Helen Conrad- O'Briain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >Could someone suggest to an unreconstructed early medievalist a good >discussion of incunabula Vergils? Matteo Venier, _Per uns storia del testo di Virgilio nella prima età del libro a stampa (1469-1419) (Udine: Forum, 2001), ch. 2; for Venice see too Craig Kallendorff, _A Bibligraphy of Venetian Editions of Virgil, 1470-1599_ (Littera Antiqua, 3; Florence: Olschki, 1991), 17-52. You might find something in Paola Casciano, 'L'edizione romana del 1471 di Virgilio di Sweynheym e Pannartz', in Massimo Miglo with P. Farenga and A. Modigliani (ed.), _Scrittura biblioteche e stampa a Roma nel Quattrocento: Atti del 2o seminario 6-8 maggio 1982_ (Vatican Cit: Scuola Vaticana di Paleografia, Diplomatica e Archivistica, 1983), 653-68. Leofranc Holford-Strevens *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Leofranc Holford-Strevens 67 St Bernard's Road usque adeone Oxford scire MEVM nihil est, nisi ME scire hoc sciat alter? OX2 6EJ tel. +44 (0)1865 552808(home)/353865(work) fax +44 (0)1865 512237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
