Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils
Jess Paehlke schrieb: Dr. Conrad, I'd be very interested to hear more about what Vergil of Salzburg said re: the antipodes and Boniface's concerns. Could you recommend any references about this? see: http://www.fortunecity.de/lindenpark/schwitters/149/globushinweise.html (Dr. Krüger in Berlin with his habilitation-dissertation about globus-form of earth in medieval time and about the antipodes-argument). grusz, hansz http://home.t-online.de/home/03581413454/links.htm --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message unsubscribe mantovano in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils
message forwarded by list owner follows Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 14:12:31 -0500 From: Jeremy Downes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the States, at least, many classical names were imposed on enslaved Africans (as with Caesar in Aphra Behn's Oroonoko). To great extent, this helps explain the occasional Virgil, Aeneas, and Marcellus in my classroom. Such usage may also explain some of the American cultural associations--both negative and agrarian. The name Homer may be a different case. --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message unsubscribe mantovano in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils
Dr. Conrad, I'd be very interested to hear more about what Vergil of Salzburg said re: the antipodes and Boniface's concerns. Could you recommend any references about this? Thanks in advance, Jess Paehlke M.A. candidate Centre for Medieval Studies University of Toronto [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message unsubscribe mantovano in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils
I can´t comment on any English usage, but here in Spain Virgilio (obviously, Vergil) has been consistently used as a Christian name, with no implications whatsoever. Homer has never, to my knowledge, been used. Now the situation in South America is very different... you have the *lot *of Roman/Greek names, which apparently carry no special connotations. Regards, Miryam What's the British attitude? Doesn't anyone there give the name Homer or Virgil to their son? After all, one meets Englishmen named Terence, etc. To someone like me brought up in the UK, Homer and Virgil used as forenames sound distinctly American -- I didn't know they had a hillbilly ring. In England I don't think Terence is taken to allude to the Roman playwright. Nor Horace to the poet. I've never heard of anyone called Plautus or Catullus. I'm sure I've heard or read of a dog called Virgil (or perhaps it was Vergil) but I can't remember where. In Malta there was (is?) a fashion for Greek names, e.g. Sir Themistocles Zammit. Back to work! (I'm editing a book on a field of study I didn't even know existed -- the constitutional law of revolutions. Cases cited come from Restoration England, the secessionist South, UDI Rhodesia, Grenada, Fiji, Queensland, etc., but so far nothing from ancient Rome, unless you count a quotation from De Civ. Dei, IV, 4.) Simon Cauchi, Hamilton, New Zealand [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message unsubscribe mantovano in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub -- *** ...There was Delphinus Polyglott. He told us what had become of the eighty-three lost tragedies of Aeschylus; of the fifty-four orations of Isaeus; of the three hundred and ninety-one speeches of Lysias; of the hundred and eighty treatises of Theophrastus; of the eighth book of the conic sections of Apollonius; of Pindar´s hymns and dithyrambics; and of the five and forty tragedies of Homer Junior. E.A. Poe *** --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message unsubscribe mantovano in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils
Backing up a bit, the correspondent from Australia was mistaken when he said that the first instance of Virgil as a first name in the US occurred with the composer Virgil Thompson. Not true. The name has been used in the US for generations and, Virgil Thompson notwithstanding, (dare I say it here?) typically has rural, country bumpkin, or even hillbilly connotations. Greg Farnum Rochester Hills, Michigan Dr Helen Conrad wrote: And let us not forget Vergil of Salzburg whose discussions of the antipodes made poor Boniface so nervous. Helen Conard-O'Briain --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message unsubscribe mantovano in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message unsubscribe mantovano in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils
Yes, I have to acknowledge that those hillbilly associations do exist, in the U.S. context; the same for the name Homer, unfortunately. But I don't know how that came about, and I wish I knew. Homer and Virgil are my two favorite poets, but if I had wanted to name my son in honor of one or both of them, my husband would have rebelled--understandably, given the U.S. ambience. What's the British attitude? Doesn't anyone there give the name Homer or Virgil to their son? After all, one meets Englishmen named Terence, etc. Randi Eldevik Oklahoma State University On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, Greg Farnum wrote: Backing up a bit, the correspondent from Australia was mistaken when he said that the first instance of Virgil as a first name in the US occurred with the composer Virgil Thompson. Not true. The name has been used in the US for generations and, Virgil Thompson notwithstanding, (dare I say it here?) typically has rural, country bumpkin, or even hillbilly connotations. Greg Farnum Rochester Hills, Michigan Dr Helen Conrad wrote: And let us not forget Vergil of Salzburg whose discussions of the antipodes made poor Boniface so nervous. Helen Conard-O'Briain --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message unsubscribe mantovano in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message unsubscribe mantovano in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message unsubscribe mantovano in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils
What's the British attitude? Doesn't anyone there give the name Homer or Virgil to their son? After all, one meets Englishmen named Terence, etc. To someone like me brought up in the UK, Homer and Virgil used as forenames sound distinctly American -- I didn't know they had a hillbilly ring. In England I don't think Terence is taken to allude to the Roman playwright. Nor Horace to the poet. I've never heard of anyone called Plautus or Catullus. I'm sure I've heard or read of a dog called Virgil (or perhaps it was Vergil) but I can't remember where. In Malta there was (is?) a fashion for Greek names, e.g. Sir Themistocles Zammit. Back to work! (I'm editing a book on a field of study I didn't even know existed -- the constitutional law of revolutions. Cases cited come from Restoration England, the secessionist South, UDI Rhodesia, Grenada, Fiji, Queensland, etc., but so far nothing from ancient Rome, unless you count a quotation from De Civ. Dei, IV, 4.) Simon Cauchi, Hamilton, New Zealand [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message unsubscribe mantovano in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils
I knew a cat called Virgil once, but I don't suppose that counts. Caroline Butler --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message unsubscribe mantovano in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
