Re: [mapguide-users] Looking for public Mapguide links.

2008-10-07 Thread Maciej Skorczewski

Hi try this

http://mapa.procad.pl
http://mapa.stargard.pl
http://chojnice.city-guide.pl

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[mapguide-users] Re: what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-07 Thread Zac Spitzer
there's been a quite a few comments saying that the newer FDO releases
are too slow

from what I've noticed is it actually the AGG rendering engine or FDO?

one of my projects uses about 9.6 Gb of data for a map, it does seem that
AGG is a bit slower than GD but the latest mapguide is a lot more stable, not
quite perfect yet but it's a hell of a lot better

z

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Zac Spitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There seems to be quite a few people who are sticking with 1.2 due to
 various issues

 Can people post in this thread what issues are holding them back so we
 can get some visibility?

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RE: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-07 Thread Jonio, Dennis (Aviation)

Having followed the posts and ... Better the Devil you know than the
one you don't. 

r,
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RE: [mapguide-users] Categories.txt still a problem on linux

2008-10-07 Thread Jo Cook

Hi Jason,

I don't know about monitoring tools, but I guess I can have a look. I have
tried starting apache first, then mgserver, but that doesn't help either. I
notice that mgserver.sh is supposed to set the variables, but when I check
using printenv they don't show up once mgserver is started.

Thanks

Jo


JasonBirch wrote:
 
 Hi Jo,
 
 Is there any kind of monitoring tool in Linux that shows failed file
 opens?  MapGuide is obviously not looking in the right place for the
 files, but it's hard to know where it IS looking ;)
 
 It's odd that none of the files are being picked up...  I believe those
 environmental variables are case sensitive; assuming you set them up in
 uppercase?
 
 Also... This is probably a server issue, but grasping at straws...   I
 think that Apache may strip out environmental variables when it starts up. 
 I wonder if there is a way of setting PROJ_LIB and GDAL_DATA in the apache
 conf file?
 
 Jason
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Joanne Cook
 Subject: [mapguide-users] Categories.txt still a problem on linux
 
 After once managing to sort out my categories.txt problem, and being able
 to see all of my coordinate systems in linux, it appears this was a one
 off and I now can't, either with my original 2.0.1 installation or 2.0.2.
 
 
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Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-07 Thread Zac Spitzer
even better is feedback to address this issue..

what have you gathered from the posts which make you hold back?

This is really important information to share, discuss and address...

z

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[mapguide-users] Wrapper over MapGuide WMS

2008-10-07 Thread poy

Hi All,

I have developed a wrapper over MapGuide WMS which essentially filters the
layers that are available to clients based on the projects that they have
access. For eg: calling my wrapper as below:

http://myserver/mywms/mywms.ashx?REQUEST=GETCAPABILITIESSERVICE=WMSVERSION=1.1.1FORMAT=text%2fxmlprojectname=Exercise

will return the capabilities document with the list of published layers only
for the Exercise project (folder which is set in Studio). 

This works fine when I invoke the url in a web browser. However, my question
is: What should I do for my server to be recogonized as a WMS server by
MapGuide Studio or any other client such as Gaia or ArcGIS?

Many thanks,
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Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-07 Thread Gabriele Monfardini
One big issue for me is the impossibility to use PostgreSQL+Postgis as
database solution for geographic data.

The new Postgis provider does not work (it seems to be only for
windows, and not so stable).
The old OGR Provider, that works fine in 1.2 ... does not work in
2.0.1 and in 2.0.2.

Our build from source code doesn't work, windows binaries don't work,
livecd doesn't work either.
Clearly neither MGE2008.

A long standing bug is opened (#666)
http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/666
but it is not receiving any feedback (maybe the bug number is unfortunate...)

Some mails to this mailing list and some questions on #mapguide and on
#fdo on IRC are still waiting for answers.

It appears that not so many Mapguide users are interested in
Postgresql+Postgis, even if, IMHO, is one of the best RDMS for
geographic data.

We've seen that Mapguide 2.x has a lot of improvement over 1.2. But,
as a matter of fact, does not support Postgresql+postgis. So we're
stuck with old 1.2 until this problem is solved.

Regards,

Gabriele




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 even better is feedback to address this issue..

 what have you gathered from the posts which make you hold back?

 This is really important information to share, discuss and address...

 z

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Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-07 Thread Jonathan Manafi
We experienced extreme CPU and/or memory consumption when we tested MGOS 
2.x with some of our data. We created a ticket(#459 
https://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/459) to document our problems, 
and I have been testing this issue with all of the updated releases, and 
I continue to see the same results. We can't zoom all the way into our 
maps without the server locking up and consuming all of the CPU, which 
is stopping us from moving a production environment to MGOS 2. We've 
been able to modify 1.2 to suit our needs for almost everything with 
plugins; and if we couldn't add a specific feature, we went in another 
direction.


So far, that has been a killer for our migration.


Zac Spitzer wrote:

even better is feedback to address this issue..

what have you gathered from the posts which make you hold back?

This is really important information to share, discuss and address...

z
  

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RE: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-07 Thread Jason Birch
This issue is identified in RFC 52 as AGG-specific, and was in my
initial testing as well:

http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc52

Are you seeing the same results when you switch to the GD renderer in
2.0.x?

Jason

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Manafi
Subject: Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading
to 2.0?

We experienced extreme CPU and/or memory consumption when we tested MGOS

2.x with some of our data. We created a ticket(#459 
https://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/459) to document our problems, 
and I have been testing this issue with all of the updated releases, and

I continue to see the same results. We can't zoom all the way into our 
maps without the server locking up and consuming all of the CPU, which 
is stopping us from moving a production environment to MGOS 2. We've 
been able to modify 1.2 to suit our needs for almost everything with 
plugins; and if we couldn't add a specific feature, we went in another 
direction.

So far, that has been a killer for our migration.
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Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-07 Thread Jonathan Manafi

Short answer: yes.

However, testing the package that is available in that ticket, I am only 
getting CPU load issues using the AGG renderer. The GD renderer seems to 
work fine with that small subset of our data. But, when I test our 
entire site maps with either renderer, I am still having the same 
issues. AGG causes CPU lockup as well as memory-hogging, and GD still 
causes memory-hogging.


It is still being caused by the same layer, so I will see if it's 
possible to get an updated dataset to test with.



Jason Birch wrote:

This issue is identified in RFC 52 as AGG-specific, and was in my
initial testing as well:

http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc52

Are you seeing the same results when you switch to the GD renderer in
2.0.x?

Jason

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Manafi
Subject: Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading
to 2.0?

We experienced extreme CPU and/or memory consumption when we tested MGOS

2.x with some of our data. We created a ticket(#459 
https://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/459) to document our problems, 
and I have been testing this issue with all of the updated releases, and


I continue to see the same results. We can't zoom all the way into our 
maps without the server locking up and consuming all of the CPU, which 
is stopping us from moving a production environment to MGOS 2. We've 
been able to modify 1.2 to suit our needs for almost everything with 
plugins; and if we couldn't add a specific feature, we went in another 
direction.


So far, that has been a killer for our migration.
  

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RE: [mapguide-users] ArcSDE FDO sucks !!!

2008-10-07 Thread Robert Fortin
Shreepad,

As Jason said, it is not clear that this is a provider issue.  One issue was 
identified sometime ago related to invalid coordinate system handling in MG.  
This issue was slowing down performance when coordinates system couldn't be 
mapped.  This was fixed in the recent MG code stream but I'm not sure it was 
backported in the code stream where you are seeing this problem.  I'm trying to 
contact the developer who look into this issue and see if we can get a hotfix 
or patch to try out.

I'm not sure that it will actually fix the problem you are seeing but it 
doesn't cost much trying it out.

I'll keep you posted.

RF

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thanks jason
i will create a trac for this on fdo site.
I have tested this with  couple layers with new schema created its still
slow.
let me create trac to have it looked at by developers

thanks
shreepad




JasonBirch wrote:

 You may be asking on the wrong list if you want the FDO folks to
 respond.  Though I'm sure that some of them hang out here from time to
 time, fdo-users is a better place.  Might want to use a less
 inflammatory subject line though :)

 The problem may not be with the SDE provider though; I wonder if it is
 the same problem with initial schema load as has been seen with the
 RDBMS providers.  Does performance decrease as the number of tables
 stored in the SDE increases, or is it consistently slow?

 The best way to get this fixed is to clearly describe the problem,
 preferably with test data, in a Trac ticket.  Just saying that it is
 slow is not giving the developers enough to chew on.

 Jason

 -Original Message-
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 Subject: Re: [mapguide-users] ArcSDE FDO sucks !!!

 I found the same issue. the new fdos are bit slow with sde 9.1 /9.2
 i think some one from FDO team should take a look at it seriously
 FDO team : please have some reply to this request
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RE: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-07 Thread Mark Pendergraft
I'm using 1.2 on my release machine.  It's primarily because of a bug in
2.0 which doesn't allow me to access a SDF resource after
GetSelectionXML() or SetSelectionXML() is called.  This is detailed in
the trac ticket http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/524.  Basically,
if a user searches for a job, or parcel, then they won't be able to
interact with it further because the resource will be busy.  It
basically negates the search function of my program, which makes the
program itself pretty useless.

-Mark Pendergraft


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Subject: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to
2.0?

There seems to be quite a few people who are sticking with 1.2 due to
various issues

Can people post in this thread what issues are holding them back so we
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Re: [mapguide-users] Please help! Has anybody used King.Oracle in real conditions?

2008-10-07 Thread shreepad Ranadive

Haris : 
did you get time to look into this. please let us know 

shreepad


FISHeR1 wrote:
 
 Has anybody used King.Oracle in real conditions? Or it was created and
 tested by the developers, who ascertained outputed and calmed down?
 
 In real conditions it is impossible to use this provider!
 
 File mgserver.exe is damaged after a half an hour of intensive working.
 Earlier I have written about the reason – memory leak (
 http://www.nabble.com/King.Oracle-0.7.3-(0.7.4)-Memory-Leak-with-MGOS-2.0-(2.0.1,-2.0.2)-tt19690045.html
 King.Oracle 0.7.3 (0.7.4) Memory Leak with MGOS 2.0 (2.0.1, 2.0.2) ), but
 nobody has answered.
 
 Has anybody any ideas? What to do?
 


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RE: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-07 Thread Traian Stanev

Did you try to use scale ranges to control the style and visibility of the bad 
layer at high zoom factors? This may alleviate your problem.

Traian


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mapguide-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Manafi
 Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 3:57 PM
 To: MapGuide Users Mail List
 Subject: Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading
 to 2.0?

 Short answer: yes.

 However, testing the package that is available in that ticket, I am
 only
 getting CPU load issues using the AGG renderer. The GD renderer seems
 to
 work fine with that small subset of our data. But, when I test our
 entire site maps with either renderer, I am still having the same
 issues. AGG causes CPU lockup as well as memory-hogging, and GD still
 causes memory-hogging.

 It is still being caused by the same layer, so I will see if it's
 possible to get an updated dataset to test with.


 Jason Birch wrote:
  This issue is identified in RFC 52 as AGG-specific, and was in my
  initial testing as well:
 
  http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc52
 
  Are you seeing the same results when you switch to the GD renderer in
  2.0.x?
 
  Jason
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jonathan Manafi
  Subject: Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from
 upgrading
  to 2.0?
 
  We experienced extreme CPU and/or memory consumption when we tested
 MGOS
 
  2.x with some of our data. We created a ticket(#459
  https://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/459) to document our problems,
  and I have been testing this issue with all of the updated releases,
 and
 
  I continue to see the same results. We can't zoom all the way into
 our
  maps without the server locking up and consuming all of the CPU,
 which
  is stopping us from moving a production environment to MGOS 2. We've
  been able to modify 1.2 to suit our needs for almost everything with
  plugins; and if we couldn't add a specific feature, we went in
 another
  direction.
 
  So far, that has been a killer for our migration.
 
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Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-07 Thread Jonathan Manafi
We had some scale ranges in use that implemented some area styling, but 
I went ahead and added another, specifically for high zoom ranges(tried 
0-1000). For our previous styling, we had a dashed line border(line04) 
and a feature label of the NAME property. I went ahead and just 
implemented a solid line border.


   - In the AGG renderer, hitting under 1:100 caused the server to
   consume steady 50% CPU.
   - In GD, nothing happened. The server continued to respond the same
   as in normal conditions.

So, I tried changing the area style to a dashed line. In GD, using a 
dashed line caused the server to start eating up memory under 1:100, 
which really started occurring around 1:50. While zooming in, the memory 
would temporarily jump to over 200MB, and once the server was no longer 
using the CPU, the memory would restore itself to around 48MB. At the 
next zoom level, the memory would jump a little higher, perhaps 
280-300MB and then restore itself. At around 1:6, the memory stayed at 
520MB usage and would increase at sequential zooms. After that, the 
memory was never released by the server. Also, once the memory started 
increasing that much, the layer would no longer be displayed beyond a 
certain zoom scale; it seems to occur under 1:30.


If I remember correctly, when I gave the layer to be tested way back 
when, I think Jason made a comment that this layer was made up of 
thousands of vertices. I understand that styling and rendering all of 
that data for a layer is expensive, but how come in this situation two 
standard styles offered by Autodesk(solid and dashed lines) differ so 
differently in performance?


Thanks for your help.


Traian Stanev wrote:

Did you try to use scale ranges to control the style and visibility of the bad 
layer at high zoom factors? This may alleviate your problem.

Traian


  

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Manafi
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 3:57 PM
To: MapGuide Users Mail List
Subject: Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading
to 2.0?

Short answer: yes.

However, testing the package that is available in that ticket, I am
only
getting CPU load issues using the AGG renderer. The GD renderer seems
to
work fine with that small subset of our data. But, when I test our
entire site maps with either renderer, I am still having the same
issues. AGG causes CPU lockup as well as memory-hogging, and GD still
causes memory-hogging.

It is still being caused by the same layer, so I will see if it's
possible to get an updated dataset to test with.


Jason Birch wrote:


This issue is identified in RFC 52 as AGG-specific, and was in my
initial testing as well:

http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc52

Are you seeing the same results when you switch to the GD renderer in
2.0.x?

Jason

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Manafi
Subject: Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from
  

upgrading


to 2.0?

We experienced extreme CPU and/or memory consumption when we tested
  

MGOS


2.x with some of our data. We created a ticket(#459
https://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/459) to document our problems,
and I have been testing this issue with all of the updated releases,
  

and


I continue to see the same results. We can't zoom all the way into
  

our


maps without the server locking up and consuming all of the CPU,
  

which


is stopping us from moving a production environment to MGOS 2. We've
been able to modify 1.2 to suit our needs for almost everything with
plugins; and if we couldn't add a specific feature, we went in
  

another


direction.

So far, that has been a killer for our migration.

  

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Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-07 Thread Kenneth Skovhede, GEOGRAF A/S
I have modified the viewer to prevent zooming closer than 1:100, because 
the server performs terrible at that point.

I have logged an issue here:
http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/523

I have not tried different styles, but I was guessing that the renderer 
tries to
map the the entire polygon to pixels, and a building at 1:3 takes MANY 
pixels.


Regards, Kenneth Skovhede, GEOGRAF A/S



Jonathan Manafi skrev:
We had some scale ranges in use that implemented some area styling, 
but I went ahead and added another, specifically for high zoom 
ranges(tried 0-1000). For our previous styling, we had a dashed line 
border(line04) and a feature label of the NAME property. I went ahead 
and just implemented a solid line border.


- In the AGG renderer, hitting under 1:100 caused the server to
consume steady 50% CPU.
- In GD, nothing happened. The server continued to respond the
same as in normal conditions.

So, I tried changing the area style to a dashed line. In GD, using a 
dashed line caused the server to start eating up memory under 1:100, 
which really started occurring around 1:50. While zooming in, the 
memory would temporarily jump to over 200MB, and once the server was 
no longer using the CPU, the memory would restore itself to around 
48MB. At the next zoom level, the memory would jump a little higher, 
perhaps 280-300MB and then restore itself. At around 1:6, the memory 
stayed at 520MB usage and would increase at sequential zooms. After 
that, the memory was never released by the server. Also, once the 
memory started increasing that much, the layer would no longer be 
displayed beyond a certain zoom scale; it seems to occur under 1:30.


If I remember correctly, when I gave the layer to be tested way back 
when, I think Jason made a comment that this layer was made up of 
thousands of vertices. I understand that styling and rendering all of 
that data for a layer is expensive, but how come in this situation two 
standard styles offered by Autodesk(solid and dashed lines) differ so 
differently in performance?


Thanks for your help.


Traian Stanev wrote:

Did you try to use scale ranges to control the style and visibility of the bad 
layer at high zoom factors? This may alleviate your problem.

Traian


  

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Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 3:57 PM
To: MapGuide Users Mail List
Subject: Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading
to 2.0?

Short answer: yes.

However, testing the package that is available in that ticket, I am
only
getting CPU load issues using the AGG renderer. The GD renderer seems
to
work fine with that small subset of our data. But, when I test our
entire site maps with either renderer, I am still having the same
issues. AGG causes CPU lockup as well as memory-hogging, and GD still
causes memory-hogging.

It is still being caused by the same layer, so I will see if it's
possible to get an updated dataset to test with.


Jason Birch wrote:


This issue is identified in RFC 52 as AGG-specific, and was in my
initial testing as well:

http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc52

Are you seeing the same results when you switch to the GD renderer in
2.0.x?

Jason

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Manafi
Subject: Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from
  

upgrading


to 2.0?

We experienced extreme CPU and/or memory consumption when we tested
  

MGOS


2.x with some of our data. We created a ticket(#459
https://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/459) to document our problems,
and I have been testing this issue with all of the updated releases,
  

and


I continue to see the same results. We can't zoom all the way into
  

our


maps without the server locking up and consuming all of the CPU,
  

which


is stopping us from moving a production environment to MGOS 2. We've
been able to modify 1.2 to suit our needs for almost everything with
plugins; and if we couldn't add a specific feature, we went in
  

another


direction.

So far, that has been a killer for our migration.

  

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