RE: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-09 Thread Trevor Wekel
There's a code fix for this one https://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/546.  It 
took me a couple of iterations to get right.  From what I recall, an early 
version of the fix is already present in MapGuide Open Source 2.0.2 build and 
the complete fix will be present in the MapGuide Enterprise 2009 Update.

Thanks,
Trevor


-Original Message-
From: BradM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 9:40 AM
To: mapguide-users@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?


Sorry I don't know the details.  Apparently this problem was fixed with the
new release of the open source version but the MGE2009 users needed to wait
for an official patch.


zspitzer wrote:
>
> out of interest what's the tool tip fix?
>
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:16 AM, BradM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> We had similar problems when zooming into large scales on our huge
>> hydrology
>> layer for British Columbia.  The server would take far too long to render
>> a
>> map.  We added the fix for tool tips and also turned off an annotation
>> layer.  Now the maps are working as fast or faster than MGE2008.  But I
>> want
>> to get the hydrology annotations back online again.  I am sure that our
>> users want to see the river names and lake names.  So we are not out of
>> the
>> woods yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> JasonBirch wrote:
>>>
>>> This issue is identified in RFC 52 as AGG-specific, and was in my
>>> initial testing as well:
>>>
>>> http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc52
>>>
>>> Are you seeing the same results when you switch to the GD renderer in
>>> 2.0.x?
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Jonathan Manafi
>>> Subject: Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading
>>> to 2.0?
>>>
>>> We experienced extreme CPU and/or memory consumption when we tested MGOS
>>>
>>> 2.x with some of our data. We created a ticket(#459
>>> https://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/459) to document our problems,
>>> and I have been testing this issue with all of the updated releases, and
>>>
>>> I continue to see the same results. We can't zoom all the way into our
>>> maps without the server locking up and consuming all of the CPU, which
>>> is stopping us from moving a production environment to MGOS 2. We've
>>> been able to modify 1.2 to suit our needs for almost everything with
>>> plugins; and if we couldn't add a specific feature, we went in another
>>> direction.
>>>
>>> So far, that has been a killer for our migration.
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Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-08 Thread Zac Spitzer
One thing I think might be coming into play for slowing things down
is labeling with font's using AGGspecifically very small text being
fitted to complex polylines... more a hunch tho..

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:40 AM, BradM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sorry I don't know the details.  Apparently this problem was fixed with the
> new release of the open source version but the MGE2009 users needed to wait
> for an official patch.
>
>
> zspitzer wrote:
>>
>> out of interest what's the tool tip fix?
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:16 AM, BradM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> We had similar problems when zooming into large scales on our huge
>>> hydrology
>>> layer for British Columbia.  The server would take far too long to render
>>> a
>>> map.  We added the fix for tool tips and also turned off an annotation
>>> layer.  Now the maps are working as fast or faster than MGE2008.  But I
>>> want
>>> to get the hydrology annotations back online again.  I am sure that our
>>> users want to see the river names and lake names.  So we are not out of
>>> the
>>> woods yet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> JasonBirch wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This issue is identified in RFC 52 as AGG-specific, and was in my
>>>> initial testing as well:
>>>>
>>>> http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc52
>>>>
>>>> Are you seeing the same results when you switch to the GD renderer in
>>>> 2.0.x?
>>>>
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Jonathan Manafi
>>>> Subject: Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading
>>>> to 2.0?
>>>>
>>>> We experienced extreme CPU and/or memory consumption when we tested MGOS
>>>>
>>>> 2.x with some of our data. We created a ticket(#459
>>>> https://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/459) to document our problems,
>>>> and I have been testing this issue with all of the updated releases, and
>>>>
>>>> I continue to see the same results. We can't zoom all the way into our
>>>> maps without the server locking up and consuming all of the CPU, which
>>>> is stopping us from moving a production environment to MGOS 2. We've
>>>> been able to modify 1.2 to suit our needs for almost everything with
>>>> plugins; and if we couldn't add a specific feature, we went in another
>>>> direction.
>>>>
>>>> So far, that has been a killer for our migration.
>>>> ___
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>>>> mapguide-users@lists.osgeo.org
>>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-users
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-08 Thread BradM

Sorry I don't know the details.  Apparently this problem was fixed with the
new release of the open source version but the MGE2009 users needed to wait
for an official patch.


zspitzer wrote:
> 
> out of interest what's the tool tip fix?
> 
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:16 AM, BradM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> We had similar problems when zooming into large scales on our huge
>> hydrology
>> layer for British Columbia.  The server would take far too long to render
>> a
>> map.  We added the fix for tool tips and also turned off an annotation
>> layer.  Now the maps are working as fast or faster than MGE2008.  But I
>> want
>> to get the hydrology annotations back online again.  I am sure that our
>> users want to see the river names and lake names.  So we are not out of
>> the
>> woods yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> JasonBirch wrote:
>>>
>>> This issue is identified in RFC 52 as AGG-specific, and was in my
>>> initial testing as well:
>>>
>>> http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc52
>>>
>>> Are you seeing the same results when you switch to the GD renderer in
>>> 2.0.x?
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Jonathan Manafi
>>> Subject: Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading
>>> to 2.0?
>>>
>>> We experienced extreme CPU and/or memory consumption when we tested MGOS
>>>
>>> 2.x with some of our data. We created a ticket(#459
>>> https://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/459) to document our problems,
>>> and I have been testing this issue with all of the updated releases, and
>>>
>>> I continue to see the same results. We can't zoom all the way into our
>>> maps without the server locking up and consuming all of the CPU, which
>>> is stopping us from moving a production environment to MGOS 2. We've
>>> been able to modify 1.2 to suit our needs for almost everything with
>>> plugins; and if we couldn't add a specific feature, we went in another
>>> direction.
>>>
>>> So far, that has been a killer for our migration.
>>> ___
>>> mapguide-users mailing list
>>> mapguide-users@lists.osgeo.org
>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-users
>>>
>>>
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Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-08 Thread Zac Spitzer
out of interest what's the tool tip fix?

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:16 AM, BradM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We had similar problems when zooming into large scales on our huge hydrology
> layer for British Columbia.  The server would take far too long to render a
> map.  We added the fix for tool tips and also turned off an annotation
> layer.  Now the maps are working as fast or faster than MGE2008.  But I want
> to get the hydrology annotations back online again.  I am sure that our
> users want to see the river names and lake names.  So we are not out of the
> woods yet.
>
>
>
> JasonBirch wrote:
>>
>> This issue is identified in RFC 52 as AGG-specific, and was in my
>> initial testing as well:
>>
>> http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc52
>>
>> Are you seeing the same results when you switch to the GD renderer in
>> 2.0.x?
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jonathan Manafi
>> Subject: Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading
>> to 2.0?
>>
>> We experienced extreme CPU and/or memory consumption when we tested MGOS
>>
>> 2.x with some of our data. We created a ticket(#459
>> https://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/459) to document our problems,
>> and I have been testing this issue with all of the updated releases, and
>>
>> I continue to see the same results. We can't zoom all the way into our
>> maps without the server locking up and consuming all of the CPU, which
>> is stopping us from moving a production environment to MGOS 2. We've
>> been able to modify 1.2 to suit our needs for almost everything with
>> plugins; and if we couldn't add a specific feature, we went in another
>> direction.
>>
>> So far, that has been a killer for our migration.
>> ___
>> mapguide-users mailing list
>> mapguide-users@lists.osgeo.org
>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-users
>>
>>
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RE: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-08 Thread BradM

We had similar problems when zooming into large scales on our huge hydrology
layer for British Columbia.  The server would take far too long to render a
map.  We added the fix for tool tips and also  turned off an annotation
layer.  Now the maps are working as fast or faster than MGE2008.  But I want
to get the hydrology annotations back online again.  I am sure that our
users want to see the river names and lake names.  So we are not out of the
woods yet.



JasonBirch wrote:
> 
> This issue is identified in RFC 52 as AGG-specific, and was in my
> initial testing as well:
> 
> http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc52
> 
> Are you seeing the same results when you switch to the GD renderer in
> 2.0.x?
> 
> Jason
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jonathan Manafi
> Subject: Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading
> to 2.0?
> 
> We experienced extreme CPU and/or memory consumption when we tested MGOS
> 
> 2.x with some of our data. We created a ticket(#459 
> https://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/459) to document our problems, 
> and I have been testing this issue with all of the updated releases, and
> 
> I continue to see the same results. We can't zoom all the way into our 
> maps without the server locking up and consuming all of the CPU, which 
> is stopping us from moving a production environment to MGOS 2. We've 
> been able to modify 1.2 to suit our needs for almost everything with 
> plugins; and if we couldn't add a specific feature, we went in another 
> direction.
> 
> So far, that has been a killer for our migration.
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> mapguide-users@lists.osgeo.org
> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-users
> 
> 

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RE: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-08 Thread Maksim Sestic
If Autodesk released 2.0.2 as MGE 2009 service pack I'd be happy to try it
out on a very large RDBMS dataset sitting on a very busy Windows server :-)
BTW, MGE 2009 performs badly (it's simply too slow, consumes enormous
amounts of RAM), so we're still sticking to MGE 2008.

Regards,
Maksim Sestic


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There seems to be quite a few people who are sticking with 1.2 due to
various issues

Can people post in this thread what issues are holding them back so we can
get some visibility?

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Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-07 Thread Kenneth Skovhede, GEOGRAF A/S
I have modified the viewer to prevent zooming closer than 1:100, because 
the server performs terrible at that point.

I have logged an issue here:
http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/523

I have not tried different styles, but I was guessing that the renderer 
tries to
map the the entire polygon to pixels, and a building at 1:3 takes MANY 
pixels.


Regards, Kenneth Skovhede, GEOGRAF A/S



Jonathan Manafi skrev:
We had some scale ranges in use that implemented some area styling, 
but I went ahead and added another, specifically for high zoom 
ranges(tried 0-1000). For our previous styling, we had a dashed line 
border(line04) and a feature label of the NAME property. I went ahead 
and just implemented a solid line border.


- In the AGG renderer, hitting under 1:100 caused the server to
consume steady 50% CPU.
- In GD, nothing happened. The server continued to respond the
same as in normal conditions.

So, I tried changing the area style to a dashed line. In GD, using a 
dashed line caused the server to start eating up memory under 1:100, 
which really started occurring around 1:50. While zooming in, the 
memory would temporarily jump to over 200MB, and once the server was 
no longer using the CPU, the memory would restore itself to around 
48MB. At the next zoom level, the memory would jump a little higher, 
perhaps 280-300MB and then restore itself. At around 1:6, the memory 
stayed at 520MB usage and would increase at sequential zooms. After 
that, the memory was never released by the server. Also, once the 
memory started increasing that much, the layer would no longer be 
displayed beyond a certain zoom scale; it seems to occur under 1:30.


If I remember correctly, when I gave the layer to be tested way back 
when, I think Jason made a comment that this layer was made up of 
thousands of vertices. I understand that styling and rendering all of 
that data for a layer is expensive, but how come in this situation two 
standard styles offered by Autodesk(solid and dashed lines) differ so 
differently in performance?


Thanks for your help.


Traian Stanev wrote:

Did you try to use scale ranges to control the style and visibility of the bad 
layer at high zoom factors? This may alleviate your problem.

Traian


  

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mapguide-users-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Manafi
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 3:57 PM
To: MapGuide Users Mail List
Subject: Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading
to 2.0?

Short answer: yes.

However, testing the package that is available in that ticket, I am
only
getting CPU load issues using the AGG renderer. The GD renderer seems
to
work fine with that small subset of our data. But, when I test our
entire site maps with either renderer, I am still having the same
issues. AGG causes CPU lockup as well as memory-hogging, and GD still
causes memory-hogging.

It is still being caused by the same layer, so I will see if it's
possible to get an updated dataset to test with.


Jason Birch wrote:


This issue is identified in RFC 52 as AGG-specific, and was in my
initial testing as well:

http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc52

Are you seeing the same results when you switch to the GD renderer in
2.0.x?

Jason

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Manafi
Subject: Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from
  

upgrading


to 2.0?

We experienced extreme CPU and/or memory consumption when we tested
  

MGOS


2.x with some of our data. We created a ticket(#459
https://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/459) to document our problems,
and I have been testing this issue with all of the updated releases,
  

and


I continue to see the same results. We can't zoom all the way into
  

our


maps without the server locking up and consuming all of the CPU,
  

which


is stopping us from moving a production environment to MGOS 2. We've
been able to modify 1.2 to suit our needs for almost everything with
plugins; and if we couldn't add a specific feature, we went in
  

another


direction.

So far, that has been a killer for our migration.

  

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Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-07 Thread Jonathan Manafi
We had some scale ranges in use that implemented some area styling, but 
I went ahead and added another, specifically for high zoom ranges(tried 
0-1000). For our previous styling, we had a dashed line border(line04) 
and a feature label of the NAME property. I went ahead and just 
implemented a solid line border.


   - In the AGG renderer, hitting under 1:100 caused the server to
   consume steady 50% CPU.
   - In GD, nothing happened. The server continued to respond the same
   as in normal conditions.

So, I tried changing the area style to a dashed line. In GD, using a 
dashed line caused the server to start eating up memory under 1:100, 
which really started occurring around 1:50. While zooming in, the memory 
would temporarily jump to over 200MB, and once the server was no longer 
using the CPU, the memory would restore itself to around 48MB. At the 
next zoom level, the memory would jump a little higher, perhaps 
280-300MB and then restore itself. At around 1:6, the memory stayed at 
520MB usage and would increase at sequential zooms. After that, the 
memory was never released by the server. Also, once the memory started 
increasing that much, the layer would no longer be displayed beyond a 
certain zoom scale; it seems to occur under 1:30.


If I remember correctly, when I gave the layer to be tested way back 
when, I think Jason made a comment that this layer was made up of 
thousands of vertices. I understand that styling and rendering all of 
that data for a layer is expensive, but how come in this situation two 
standard styles offered by Autodesk(solid and dashed lines) differ so 
differently in performance?


Thanks for your help.


Traian Stanev wrote:

Did you try to use scale ranges to control the style and visibility of the bad 
layer at high zoom factors? This may alleviate your problem.

Traian


  

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Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 3:57 PM
To: MapGuide Users Mail List
Subject: Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading
to 2.0?

Short answer: yes.

However, testing the package that is available in that ticket, I am
only
getting CPU load issues using the AGG renderer. The GD renderer seems
to
work fine with that small subset of our data. But, when I test our
entire site maps with either renderer, I am still having the same
issues. AGG causes CPU lockup as well as memory-hogging, and GD still
causes memory-hogging.

It is still being caused by the same layer, so I will see if it's
possible to get an updated dataset to test with.


Jason Birch wrote:


This issue is identified in RFC 52 as AGG-specific, and was in my
initial testing as well:

http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc52

Are you seeing the same results when you switch to the GD renderer in
2.0.x?

Jason

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Manafi
Subject: Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from
  

upgrading


to 2.0?

We experienced extreme CPU and/or memory consumption when we tested
  

MGOS


2.x with some of our data. We created a ticket(#459
https://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/459) to document our problems,
and I have been testing this issue with all of the updated releases,
  

and


I continue to see the same results. We can't zoom all the way into
  

our


maps without the server locking up and consuming all of the CPU,
  

which


is stopping us from moving a production environment to MGOS 2. We've
been able to modify 1.2 to suit our needs for almost everything with
plugins; and if we couldn't add a specific feature, we went in
  

another


direction.

So far, that has been a killer for our migration.

  

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RE: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-07 Thread Traian Stanev

Did you try to use scale ranges to control the style and visibility of the bad 
layer at high zoom factors? This may alleviate your problem.

Traian


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> Subject: Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading
> to 2.0?
>
> Short answer: yes.
>
> However, testing the package that is available in that ticket, I am
> only
> getting CPU load issues using the AGG renderer. The GD renderer seems
> to
> work fine with that small subset of our data. But, when I test our
> entire site maps with either renderer, I am still having the same
> issues. AGG causes CPU lockup as well as memory-hogging, and GD still
> causes memory-hogging.
>
> It is still being caused by the same layer, so I will see if it's
> possible to get an updated dataset to test with.
>
>
> Jason Birch wrote:
> > This issue is identified in RFC 52 as AGG-specific, and was in my
> > initial testing as well:
> >
> > http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc52
> >
> > Are you seeing the same results when you switch to the GD renderer in
> > 2.0.x?
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jonathan Manafi
> > Subject: Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from
> upgrading
> > to 2.0?
> >
> > We experienced extreme CPU and/or memory consumption when we tested
> MGOS
> >
> > 2.x with some of our data. We created a ticket(#459
> > https://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/459) to document our problems,
> > and I have been testing this issue with all of the updated releases,
> and
> >
> > I continue to see the same results. We can't zoom all the way into
> our
> > maps without the server locking up and consuming all of the CPU,
> which
> > is stopping us from moving a production environment to MGOS 2. We've
> > been able to modify 1.2 to suit our needs for almost everything with
> > plugins; and if we couldn't add a specific feature, we went in
> another
> > direction.
> >
> > So far, that has been a killer for our migration.
> >
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RE: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-07 Thread Mark Pendergraft
I'm using 1.2 on my release machine.  It's primarily because of a bug in
2.0 which doesn't allow me to access a SDF resource after
GetSelectionXML() or SetSelectionXML() is called.  This is detailed in
the trac ticket http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/524.  Basically,
if a user searches for a job, or parcel, then they won't be able to
interact with it further because the resource will be busy.  It
basically negates the search function of my program, which makes the
program itself pretty useless.

-Mark Pendergraft


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Subject: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to
2.0?

There seems to be quite a few people who are sticking with 1.2 due to
various issues

Can people post in this thread what issues are holding them back so we
can get some visibility?

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Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-07 Thread Jonathan Manafi

Short answer: yes.

However, testing the package that is available in that ticket, I am only 
getting CPU load issues using the AGG renderer. The GD renderer seems to 
work fine with that small subset of our data. But, when I test our 
entire site maps with either renderer, I am still having the same 
issues. AGG causes CPU lockup as well as memory-hogging, and GD still 
causes memory-hogging.


It is still being caused by the same layer, so I will see if it's 
possible to get an updated dataset to test with.



Jason Birch wrote:

This issue is identified in RFC 52 as AGG-specific, and was in my
initial testing as well:

http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc52

Are you seeing the same results when you switch to the GD renderer in
2.0.x?

Jason

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Manafi
Subject: Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading
to 2.0?

We experienced extreme CPU and/or memory consumption when we tested MGOS

2.x with some of our data. We created a ticket(#459 
https://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/459) to document our problems, 
and I have been testing this issue with all of the updated releases, and


I continue to see the same results. We can't zoom all the way into our 
maps without the server locking up and consuming all of the CPU, which 
is stopping us from moving a production environment to MGOS 2. We've 
been able to modify 1.2 to suit our needs for almost everything with 
plugins; and if we couldn't add a specific feature, we went in another 
direction.


So far, that has been a killer for our migration.
  

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RE: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-07 Thread Jason Birch
This issue is identified in RFC 52 as AGG-specific, and was in my
initial testing as well:

http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc52

Are you seeing the same results when you switch to the GD renderer in
2.0.x?

Jason

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Manafi
Subject: Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading
to 2.0?

We experienced extreme CPU and/or memory consumption when we tested MGOS

2.x with some of our data. We created a ticket(#459 
https://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/459) to document our problems, 
and I have been testing this issue with all of the updated releases, and

I continue to see the same results. We can't zoom all the way into our 
maps without the server locking up and consuming all of the CPU, which 
is stopping us from moving a production environment to MGOS 2. We've 
been able to modify 1.2 to suit our needs for almost everything with 
plugins; and if we couldn't add a specific feature, we went in another 
direction.

So far, that has been a killer for our migration.
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Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-07 Thread Jonathan Manafi
We experienced extreme CPU and/or memory consumption when we tested MGOS 
2.x with some of our data. We created a ticket(#459 
https://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/459) to document our problems, 
and I have been testing this issue with all of the updated releases, and 
I continue to see the same results. We can't zoom all the way into our 
maps without the server locking up and consuming all of the CPU, which 
is stopping us from moving a production environment to MGOS 2. We've 
been able to modify 1.2 to suit our needs for almost everything with 
plugins; and if we couldn't add a specific feature, we went in another 
direction.


So far, that has been a killer for our migration.


Zac Spitzer wrote:

even better is feedback to address this issue..

what have you gathered from the posts which make you hold back?

This is really important information to share, discuss and address...

z
  

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Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-07 Thread Gabriele Monfardini
One big issue for me is the impossibility to use PostgreSQL+Postgis as
database solution for geographic data.

The new Postgis provider does not work (it seems to be only for
windows, and not so stable).
The old OGR Provider, that works fine in 1.2 ... does not work in
2.0.1 and in 2.0.2.

Our build from source code doesn't work, windows binaries don't work,
livecd doesn't work either.
Clearly neither MGE2008.

A long standing bug is opened (#666)
http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/666
but it is not receiving any feedback (maybe the bug number is unfortunate...)

Some mails to this mailing list and some questions on #mapguide and on
#fdo on IRC are still waiting for answers.

It appears that not so many Mapguide users are interested in
Postgresql+Postgis, even if, IMHO, is one of the best RDMS for
geographic data.

We've seen that Mapguide 2.x has a lot of improvement over 1.2. But,
as a matter of fact, does not support Postgresql+postgis. So we're
stuck with old 1.2 until this problem is solved.

Regards,

Gabriele




On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:00, Zac Spitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> even better is feedback to address this issue..
>
> what have you gathered from the posts which make you hold back?
>
> This is really important information to share, discuss and address...
>
> z
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Jonio, Dennis (Aviation)
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Having followed the posts and ... "Better the Devil you know than the
>> one you don't".
>>
>> r,
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Re: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-07 Thread Zac Spitzer
even better is feedback to address this issue..

what have you gathered from the posts which make you hold back?

This is really important information to share, discuss and address...

z

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> Having followed the posts and ... "Better the Devil you know than the
> one you don't".
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> r,
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RE: [mapguide-users] what's holding people back from upgrading to 2.0?

2008-10-07 Thread Jonio, Dennis (Aviation)

Having followed the posts and ... "Better the Devil you know than the
one you don't". 

r,
dennis
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