Re: MI Lack of mail!!
As for the newsgroup topic, I also would have trouble seeing this during the day but this is not my biggest concern. I search the newsgroups for info now and then and the garbage on the newsgroups can be at times surprising (for lack of a better word). This is a very nice list and it would be nice to keep it that way. Typical remarks I see on newsgroups are things like: "Don't spam this list with your question when you haven't searched the archives" and on and on. I have noticed that most people on this list are very helpful and I would be disappointed to see this list deteriorate to what I have seen out there. -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MI Lack of mail!!
Matt, Here, here. Newsgroups would count me out too, as we discussed a month or 2 ago. Cheers Chris -Original Message- From: Matt.Wilkie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 6 July 2000 6:53 To: Antoine Gilbert, KOREM; Bill Thoen; Simon W Fox Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: MI Lack of mail!! > move list to a newsgroup In one sense I agree completely, newsreader software is much smarter about threads 'n such and much nicer to use. On the other hand,our firewall at work blocks the newsgroup ports (and no amount of pleading on my part will change it. I've tried). Also at my home ISP does not carry many newgroups and a fairly high volume one like MI would not be considered to due the low number of GIS people in my area. Web-based newsgroup access is more or less pointless from my viewpoint - you lose most of the usability, while putting up with ton's of slow downloading and fast animating ads. The only real gain here is the ability to search past posts, and browse without subscribing. A mirror situation could work though: those of us unlucky enough to be able incapable of using newsgroups could continue with email. my 2 cents. matt -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This message and any files transmitted with it are intended only for the addressee. This message may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the addressee of this message you must not read, copy, distribute this information or take an action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error you are requested to immediately contact the sender or Parks Victoria at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete the original and any copies of this message and any files transmitted with it. The views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority and specifically states them to be the views of Parks Victoria. Parks Victoria accepts no liability for any damage caused in the transmission, receipt or opening of this message and any files transmitted with it. ** -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MI Lack of mail!!
> move list to a newsgroup In one sense I agree completely, newsreader software is much smarter about threads 'n such and much nicer to use. On the other hand,our firewall at work blocks the newsgroup ports (and no amount of pleading on my part will change it. I've tried). Also at my home ISP does not carry many newgroups and a fairly high volume one like MI would not be considered to due the low number of GIS people in my area. Web-based newsgroup access is more or less pointless from my viewpoint - you lose most of the usability, while putting up with ton's of slow downloading and fast animating ads. The only real gain here is the ability to search past posts, and browse without subscribing. A mirror situation could work though: those of us unlucky enough to be able incapable of using newsgroups could continue with email. my 2 cents. matt -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MI Lack of mail!!
"Antoine Gilbert, KOREM" wrote: > > move list to a newsgroup > I thought we discussed this a while ago, and there weren't enough interest in it. Anyone can set up a newsgroup if they want to do the work. I won't vote for it myself, but I won't stand in the way if anyone wants to try it. But there is a process to setting one up. See http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/creating-newsgroups/part1/ to learn how. Also for those who don't want to get tons of email, the list is mirrored on websites at http://testdrive.mapinfo.com/tdc/mapinfo-l.nsf/?openabout. and for a spam-filled version at http://www.mail-archive.com/mapinfo-l%40lists.sni.net/ Good grief! Do unfiltered versions of MapInfo-L REALLY get that much SPAM? I have my own spam filters set up so I didn't see any of this garbage in my feed from MapInfo-L. It doesn't show up on MapInfo's mirror site either. Maybe we should shut down the "Mail Archive" mirror. It's just spam, spam, spam... - Bill Thoen -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MI Lack of mail!!
move list to a newsgroup ___ ||//Antoine Gilbert || // [EMAIL PROTECTED] || //#ICQ 9737371 || \\ || \\Le Groupe KOREM Inc. ||\\ http://www.korem.com Push'n'See : www.pushnsee.com MIG: www.mig.ca ___ - Original Message - From: Bill Thoen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Simon W Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 12:41 PM Subject: Re: MI Lack of mail!! >Simon W Fox wrote: >> >> I haven't received anything from the list for a couple of days. Is >> everything OK or is there a problem? > >You probably got unsubscribed if your mail server started >refusing MapInfo-L messages. Lately, this is usually the result >of misguided anti-spam and virus countermeasures employed by your >ISP. Some of them blindly block all mail that is relayed to you >via a mail server (like ours at [EMAIL PROTECTED]). The theory is >that if the original sender is not the current sender (i.e. >someone sends mail to the list as the original sender, and the >list sends that message to everyone else becoming the relaying >sender) then the mail must be unwanted trash. Of course, that's >not always true, so clear that up with your ISP. > >Other reasons for mail being bounced include people abandoning >their accounts, letting their disk quota get exceeded, >misconfigered servers, broken down servers, and probably a few >evil spirits drifting about the net. True, sometimes these >problems are temporary, but when I see that messages could not be >sent to your server for more than a couple of days, I don't want >to deal with several more days of bouncing MapInfo-L mail coming >from your server, so your address gets lopped off the subscribers >list. > >Since tens to hundreds of bounced messages from the list pile up >in my mailbox every day I've been getting more aggressive with >taking problem addresses off the list. I can't always send you a >note about it because that takes a lot of time (and if your >address is broken it won't reach you anyway), but if I don't keep >the broken addresses cleaned up, then the list delivery slows >down as the MapInfo-L server tries to resend messages or wait for >timeouts. > >Until we get a more automated setup (I'm considering moving the >list to the Directions Magazine list host... so give that some >thought) I'll be dropping any addresses causing more than their >fair share of trouble. > >Anyway, the solution is to resubscribe. If your address continues >to be a problem, I'll start to notice and will contact you >(because by resubscribing I know you really are still out there) >and we will work it out. > >- Bill Thoen >-- >To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put >"unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MI Lack of mail!!
Simon W Fox wrote: > > I haven't received anything from the list for a couple of days. Is > everything OK or is there a problem? You probably got unsubscribed if your mail server started refusing MapInfo-L messages. Lately, this is usually the result of misguided anti-spam and virus countermeasures employed by your ISP. Some of them blindly block all mail that is relayed to you via a mail server (like ours at [EMAIL PROTECTED]). The theory is that if the original sender is not the current sender (i.e. someone sends mail to the list as the original sender, and the list sends that message to everyone else becoming the relaying sender) then the mail must be unwanted trash. Of course, that's not always true, so clear that up with your ISP. Other reasons for mail being bounced include people abandoning their accounts, letting their disk quota get exceeded, misconfigered servers, broken down servers, and probably a few evil spirits drifting about the net. True, sometimes these problems are temporary, but when I see that messages could not be sent to your server for more than a couple of days, I don't want to deal with several more days of bouncing MapInfo-L mail coming from your server, so your address gets lopped off the subscribers list. Since tens to hundreds of bounced messages from the list pile up in my mailbox every day I've been getting more aggressive with taking problem addresses off the list. I can't always send you a note about it because that takes a lot of time (and if your address is broken it won't reach you anyway), but if I don't keep the broken addresses cleaned up, then the list delivery slows down as the MapInfo-L server tries to resend messages or wait for timeouts. Until we get a more automated setup (I'm considering moving the list to the Directions Magazine list host... so give that some thought) I'll be dropping any addresses causing more than their fair share of trouble. Anyway, the solution is to resubscribe. If your address continues to be a problem, I'll start to notice and will contact you (because by resubscribing I know you really are still out there) and we will work it out. - Bill Thoen -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
