RE: [MI-L] Wandering Text Problem
Hi Paul > Sounds like a great xmas wish list to me. yes, but as dusty as an old bottle of Bordeaux ... it hangs around since the last century, ooops, no, wrong, millenium ... ciao flavio ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
[MI-L] Fixes and New MapInfo Features
Hi Bill Ye, all of it, instead of useless "kind of 3D" junk. We and our clients are asking for that since version 4 ... Thanks for summarizing! > And I agree with you all -- why HASN'T this bug been fixed yet? In > fact, > if MapInfo needs some featues to add for the next release that will > actually excite people and motivate them to upgade, why not fix all > the > layout bugs and add some features that will allow us to put a finish > on > our maps that makes them look like cartographic art rather than > 'toons? > Why not add antialiasing like what's in SVG? Why not text on a curve, > and some of the smart street labeling that's in MapText's Label-EZ? > Why > not provide line styles where you can change both the inside AND > outside > color? Why not color gradational fills? How about vector layer > translucense? How about finishing the cartographic legend utility? Mit freundlichem Gruss / Best Regards Flavio Hendry TYDAC NEWS http://www.tydac.ch/german/index.php?menu=News_actual Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Kind Regards mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TYDAC AG - http://www.tydac.ch Geographic Information Solutions Luternauweg 12 -- CH-3006 Bern Tel +41 (0)31 368 0180 - Fax +41 (0)31 368 1860 ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] [Spam] MapXtreme Question
I'm currently working on a C++ .NET MapXtreme 2004 project. I would also like to know of any applications out there that use MapXtreme (2004). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Juan José Del Toro Madrueño Sent: 22 December 2005 01:26 To: Mapinfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: [MI-L] [Spam] MapXtreme Question Hello List!!! Does anyone know or operate an application with MapXtreme? ¡Saludos! / Greetings! Juan José Del Toro Madrueño [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guadalajara, Jalisco MEXICO 01-33-3171-0896 MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype jdeltoro1973 N 20° 40' 33.95" W 103° 26' 39.47" ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
[MI-L] Market Data-/ Geodata Shop
Dear List, maybe this question does not concern Mapinfo products in general but I hope i there is someone out there who could help me. I am looking for some internet pages which have the following options: A Market data /Geodata shop with shopping cart. Area Selection of the data should be variable made via click on a map or by entry. Would be fine to get some links to pages build up with MapXtreme. Thanks in Advance. Regards Hendrik Poßberg ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] Fixes and New MapInfo Features
Another vote for cartography This is obviously a sign that the powers that be for whatever reason, have forsaken the opinions on this list. When I think back over the years that I've been watching this list, I recall the same similar comments as Flavio makes... "we've been waiting for xx since version " and that version seems to always be around version 4'ish and the "what we want" usually is the same issues. As I started out my journey with Mapinfo at v4, then upgrading to 6.0 then 6.5, I can honestly say, 6.5 is definetly far better than 4 but so many of the issues people ranted about in v4 are still there in 6.5 and from what I've gleamed from the list, are evidentally still be in the current version. I think Trey indicated his satisfaction with v6.5 and Bill hammered home the cartographic issues and I have to agree, to validate the expense of an upgrade, I'll have to see enhancements on the cartographic side. People I deal with aren't impressed with what I do behind the scenes in Mapinfo, to them, it's the final printed map they want to see. But I think I also recall we've been down this road before and it was Bill and some others who pointed out that the once flagship Mapinfo Professional Desktop is now downgraded to a "tender" within the Mapinfo Fleet of other ships. Ho Ho Ho... Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flavio Hendry Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 1:34 AM To: Bill Thoen; MapInfo List Subject: [MI-L] Fixes and New MapInfo Features Hi Bill Ye, all of it, instead of useless "kind of 3D" junk. We and our clients are asking for that since version 4 ... Thanks for summarizing! > And I agree with you all -- why HASN'T this bug been fixed yet? In > fact, > if MapInfo needs some featues to add for the next release that will > actually excite people and motivate them to upgade, why not fix all > the > layout bugs and add some features that will allow us to put a finish > on > our maps that makes them look like cartographic art rather than > 'toons? > Why not add antialiasing like what's in SVG? Why not text on a curve, > and some of the smart street labeling that's in MapText's Label-EZ? > Why > not provide line styles where you can change both the inside AND > outside > color? Why not color gradational fills? How about vector layer > translucense? How about finishing the cartographic legend utility? Mit freundlichem Gruss / Best Regards Flavio Hendry TYDAC NEWS http://www.tydac.ch/german/index.php?menu=News_actual Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Kind Regards mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TYDAC AG - http://www.tydac.ch Geographic Information Solutions Luternauweg 12 -- CH-3006 Bern Tel +41 (0)31 368 0180 - Fax +41 (0)31 368 1860 ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l -- Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005 -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005 ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] [Spam] MapXtreme Question
Lots of people are using MapXtreme 2004. Try looking in the forum http://www.mapinfo.com/registration/discussions/forum.jsp?forum=88 for Mx questions. But why spank your self using C++ when you can use C# ? HTH Jakob Lanstorp Software Developer Geographical Information & IT COWI A/S Odensevej 95 DK-5260 Odense S Denmark Tel +45 6311 4900 Mob +45 4020 7529 Fax +45 6311 4949 E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cowi.dk/gis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Smith Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:02 AM To: Juan José Del Toro Madrueño; Mapinfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: RE: [MI-L] [Spam] MapXtreme Question I'm currently working on a C++ .NET MapXtreme 2004 project. I would also like to know of any applications out there that use MapXtreme (2004). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Juan José Del Toro Madrueño Sent: 22 December 2005 01:26 To: Mapinfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: [MI-L] [Spam] MapXtreme Question Hello List!!! Does anyone know or operate an application with MapXtreme? ¡Saludos! / Greetings! Juan José Del Toro Madrueño [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guadalajara, Jalisco MEXICO 01-33-3171-0896 MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype jdeltoro1973 N 20° 40' 33.95" W 103° 26' 39.47" ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
[MI-L] mapinfo map catalog
Hi I have a table in oracle with a field RENDITION containing values like for example "Line (2, 2, 0)" I want MapInfo to display the rendition for each line object. In the MapInfo Map Catalog, I can specify 3 fields : RENDITION_COLUMN, RENDITION_TYPE, RENDITION_TABLE Whatever I specify these 3 values, this is not working. Anyone ever tried to do what I'm trying? Antoine Gilbert ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] Fixes and New MapInfo Features
On the other hand, why spend too much time fixing an old product like MapInfo. Give MI Corp. some credit until we get MapInfo.NET. C/ Jakob Lanstorp Software Developer Geographical Information & IT COWI A/S Odensevej 95 DK-5260 Odense S Denmark Tel +45 6311 4900 Mob +45 4020 7529 Fax +45 6311 4949 E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cowi.dk/gis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flavio Hendry Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 8:34 AM To: Bill Thoen; MapInfo List Subject: [MI-L] Fixes and New MapInfo Features Hi Bill Ye, all of it, instead of useless "kind of 3D" junk. We and our clients are asking for that since version 4 ... Thanks for summarizing! > And I agree with you all -- why HASN'T this bug been fixed yet? In > fact, if MapInfo needs some featues to add for the next release that > will actually excite people and motivate them to upgade, why not fix > all the layout bugs and add some features that will allow us to put a > finish on our maps that makes them look like cartographic art rather > than 'toons? > Why not add antialiasing like what's in SVG? Why not text on a curve, > and some of the smart street labeling that's in MapText's Label-EZ? > Why > not provide line styles where you can change both the inside AND > outside color? Why not color gradational fills? How about vector layer > translucense? How about finishing the cartographic legend utility? Mit freundlichem Gruss / Best Regards Flavio Hendry TYDAC NEWS http://www.tydac.ch/german/index.php?menu=News_actual Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Kind Regards mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TYDAC AG - http://www.tydac.ch Geographic Information Solutions Luternauweg 12 -- CH-3006 Bern Tel +41 (0)31 368 0180 - Fax +41 (0)31 368 1860 ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
Off Topic: Dot Net question was: RE: [MI-L] Fixes and New MapInfo Features
I hope that this "dot net" concept isn't indicative of what I've seen of late. Needing to convert some engineering plats from Autocad produced DWG files, I wanted to see just what the producer wanted so I downloaded Autocad's freebie DWG viewer. GOOD GRIEF!!! This thing was 106MB, and for a mere VIEWER/print ONLY! I noticed during the install process it had to install the MS dot net framework and that seemed to take as long as some of the other install processes. Is the "dot net" framework indicative of GREAT BIG'OLE' HUMOUNGUS hard drive realestate consuming files? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jakob Lanstorp Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 1:40 PM To: MapInfo List Subject: RE: [MI-L] Fixes and New MapInfo Features On the other hand, why spend too much time fixing an old product like MapInfo. Give MI Corp. some credit until we get MapInfo.NET. C/ Jakob Lanstorp Software Developer Geographical Information & IT COWI A/S Odensevej 95 DK-5260 Odense S Denmark Tel +45 6311 4900 Mob +45 4020 7529 Fax +45 6311 4949 E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cowi.dk/gis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flavio Hendry Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 8:34 AM To: Bill Thoen; MapInfo List Subject: [MI-L] Fixes and New MapInfo Features Hi Bill Ye, all of it, instead of useless "kind of 3D" junk. We and our clients are asking for that since version 4 ... Thanks for summarizing! > And I agree with you all -- why HASN'T this bug been fixed yet? In > fact, if MapInfo needs some featues to add for the next release that > will actually excite people and motivate them to upgade, why not fix > all the layout bugs and add some features that will allow us to put a > finish on our maps that makes them look like cartographic art rather > than 'toons? > Why not add antialiasing like what's in SVG? Why not text on a curve, > and some of the smart street labeling that's in MapText's Label-EZ? > Why > not provide line styles where you can change both the inside AND > outside color? Why not color gradational fills? How about vector layer > translucense? How about finishing the cartographic legend utility? Mit freundlichem Gruss / Best Regards Flavio Hendry TYDAC NEWS http://www.tydac.ch/german/index.php?menu=News_actual Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Kind Regards mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TYDAC AG - http://www.tydac.ch Geographic Information Solutions Luternauweg 12 -- CH-3006 Bern Tel +41 (0)31 368 0180 - Fax +41 (0)31 368 1860 ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l -- Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005 -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005 ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] Fixes and New MapInfo Features
I think that point has been debated several times before. Promises, promises... "the check is in the mail", "the upgrade is in development", etc. Until we see .NET on the horizon, we'll put in our wishes/comments/complaints. But heck... what else would we have to talk about at MapWorld? :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jakob Lanstorp Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 1:40 PM To: MapInfo List Subject: RE: [MI-L] Fixes and New MapInfo Features On the other hand, why spend too much time fixing an old product like MapInfo. Give MI Corp. some credit until we get MapInfo.NET. C/ Jakob Lanstorp Software Developer Geographical Information & IT COWI A/S Odensevej 95 DK-5260 Odense S Denmark Tel +45 6311 4900 Mob +45 4020 7529 Fax +45 6311 4949 E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cowi.dk/gis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flavio Hendry Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 8:34 AM To: Bill Thoen; MapInfo List Subject: [MI-L] Fixes and New MapInfo Features Hi Bill Ye, all of it, instead of useless "kind of 3D" junk. We and our clients are asking for that since version 4 ... Thanks for summarizing! > And I agree with you all -- why HASN'T this bug been fixed yet? In > fact, if MapInfo needs some featues to add for the next release that > will actually excite people and motivate them to upgade, why not fix > all the layout bugs and add some features that will allow us to put a > finish on our maps that makes them look like cartographic art rather > than 'toons? > Why not add antialiasing like what's in SVG? Why not text on a curve, > and some of the smart street labeling that's in MapText's Label-EZ? > Why > not provide line styles where you can change both the inside AND > outside color? Why not color gradational fills? How about vector layer > translucense? How about finishing the cartographic legend utility? Mit freundlichem Gruss / Best Regards Flavio Hendry TYDAC NEWS http://www.tydac.ch/german/index.php?menu=News_actual Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Kind Regards mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TYDAC AG - http://www.tydac.ch Geographic Information Solutions Luternauweg 12 -- CH-3006 Bern Tel +41 (0)31 368 0180 - Fax +41 (0)31 368 1860 ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ** Any opinions expressed in the email are those of the individual and not necessarily the company. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, or if you are concerned with the content of this email please e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The contents of an attachment to this e-mail may contain software viruses which could damage your own computer system. While the sender has taken every reasonable precaution to minimise this risk, we cannot accept liability for any damage which you sustain as a result of software viruses. You should carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachments to this e-mail. ** __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] SHP Conversion & Missing PRJ File
ESRI's .prj should not be labeled as a "projection" file... I have been told its rather a "project" file and carries other metadata associated with the .shp file set. Just what others goodies might be found there remains a mystery to me. neil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Peter Horsbøll Møller Sent: Tue 20/12/2005 1:05 PM To: Frank Aaron (TX/EUS); mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: RE: [MI-L] SHP Conversion & Missing PRJ File Frank, If the projection file is missing, you can simply specify the projection when opening the shape file thru File > Open in MapInfo. But you do of course need to know the projection/coordsys to do this. Peter Horsbøll Møller GIS Developer, MTM Geographical Information & IT COWI A/S Odensevej 95 DK-5260 Odense S. Denmark Tel +45 6311 4900 Direct +45 6311 4908 Mob +45 5156 1045 Fax +45 6311 4949 E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cowi.dk/gis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Aaron (TX/EUS) Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 7:19 PM To: 'mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com' Subject: [MI-L] SHP Conversion & Missing PRJ File Hi All, I have downloaded a ArcGIS SHP file and noticed that it did not come with the required PRJ file - searched the site and could not find any reference to the projection or datum. I am not very knowledgeable about ArcGIS (and for that matter do not have access to a copy of the Program) but had read through the posting that the shapefiles do not contain any coordinate system or datum information. With that in mind - does anyone know how one should create the proper Projection File for the SHP File? BR, Frank Aaron, MSc. Physics, MSEE Staff Wireless Systems Engineer, RF Engineering Services Ericsson USA Global Services North America Tel: (972) 583-0112 Fax: (972) 583-2273 Mobile: (972) 679-9291 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] MI raster to Shape file
There may be very interesting opportunity to use the recent MapInfo to Google exporter for like transfers between systems.. Export selected objects or the active window as a KLV or KLM(?). These formats are XML-like and should be of universal appeal as data formats and its metadata are increasingly shifted towards Google Earth and Virtual Earth designs. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of James M. Kelly Sent: Mon 19/12/2005 11:54 PM To: John Elliot Cc: MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: RE: [MI-L] MI raster to Shape file John I world file is simply a text file that contains some information about the coordinate values of the image, but no coordinate system information. I have not used ArcPad, but I would imagine that the world files are standard old ESRI format. There is a free mbx on the directions website that is called TABtoTFW or something like that, which can be used to create a TFW (for tiff files) from TAB files. I have found some problems using this when the raster is screen registered in MapInfo, so I would use it with caution. Cheers James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Elliot Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2005 3:42 PM To: MapInfo Subject: [MI-L] MI raster to Shape file I am running MapInfo 5.5 and have installed ArcPad 6.0.3 on a handheld. Is it possible to transfer a raster map from MapInfo to ArcPad. I understand that ArcPad needs both a World File and a Projection File (datum file) in order to be able to recognise raster images. The Projection Files come with ArcPad but it seems World Files have to be created with one of the other Arc software packages. When I try to translate a raster map to a Shape file using Universal Translator it fails to translate and gives a message that it could not find any layers. Is there a utility, preferably at "mate's rates", that would do this job? John Elliot Bathurst, NSW 2795, AUSTRALIA ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l -- Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering. http://www.mailguard.com.au/tt ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: Off Topic: Dot Net question was: RE: [MI-L] Fixes and New MapInfo Features
Dave, Why not? The hard drives keep getting bigger, programs keep getting bigger (look at the Gb space that, say, Microsoft Office takes up, or GTA: San Andreas, for that matter). Let's go back to the days of "really big" GIS files and a wait time for processing that consumes two or three cups of coffee. ;) -R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Reid Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 2:30 PM To: 'Jakob Lanstorp'; 'MapInfo List' Subject: Off Topic: Dot Net question was: RE: [MI-L] Fixes and New MapInfo Features I hope that this "dot net" concept isn't indicative of what I've seen of late. Needing to convert some engineering plats from Autocad produced DWG files, I wanted to see just what the producer wanted so I downloaded Autocad's freebie DWG viewer. GOOD GRIEF!!! This thing was 106MB, and for a mere VIEWER/print ONLY! I noticed during the install process it had to install the MS dot net framework and that seemed to take as long as some of the other install processes. Is the "dot net" framework indicative of GREAT BIG'OLE' HUMOUNGUS hard drive realestate consuming files? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jakob Lanstorp Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 1:40 PM To: MapInfo List Subject: RE: [MI-L] Fixes and New MapInfo Features On the other hand, why spend too much time fixing an old product like MapInfo. Give MI Corp. some credit until we get MapInfo.NET. C/ Jakob Lanstorp Software Developer Geographical Information & IT COWI A/S Odensevej 95 DK-5260 Odense S Denmark Tel +45 6311 4900 Mob +45 4020 7529 Fax +45 6311 4949 E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cowi.dk/gis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flavio Hendry Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 8:34 AM To: Bill Thoen; MapInfo List Subject: [MI-L] Fixes and New MapInfo Features Hi Bill Ye, all of it, instead of useless "kind of 3D" junk. We and our clients are asking for that since version 4 ... Thanks for summarizing! > And I agree with you all -- why HASN'T this bug been fixed yet? In > fact, if MapInfo needs some featues to add for the next release that > will actually excite people and motivate them to upgade, why not fix > all the layout bugs and add some features that will allow us to put a > finish on our maps that makes them look like cartographic art rather > than 'toons? > Why not add antialiasing like what's in SVG? Why not text on a curve, > and some of the smart street labeling that's in MapText's Label-EZ? > Why > not provide line styles where you can change both the inside AND > outside color? Why not color gradational fills? How about vector layer > translucense? How about finishing the cartographic legend utility? Mit freundlichem Gruss / Best Regards Flavio Hendry TYDAC NEWS http://www.tydac.ch/german/index.php?menu=News_actual Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Kind Regards mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TYDAC AG - http://www.tydac.ch Geographic Information Solutions Luternauweg 12 -- CH-3006 Bern Tel +41 (0)31 368 0180 - Fax +41 (0)31 368 1860 ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l -- Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005 -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005 ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ** Any opinions expressed in the email are those of the individual and not necessarily the company. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any dissemi
Re: [MI-L] Fixes and New MapInfo Features
Microsoft "dot not" well lets see..[read the line below my sig] I was so excited when I went to the Microsoft Windows website, seeing such titles as "Transforming Word Documents into the XSL-FO Format using dotNet" and such. Now all I need to do is maybe go download the .exe to start translating on my linux system. Oh wait, that would be for Microsoft Windows only. Well maybe I should just go take a look at "Word 2003: XML Software Development Kit (SDK)". Now all I need to do is download the wdxmlsdk.msi file and run that. Oh wait, screwed again. Imagine that, I look through the entire site and can't find a single executable or document format that doesn't require me to buy a Microsoft Windows OS and Office Suite. Lets all give Microsoft a big round of applause for their open XML format! -- Record oil profits reported, congress looks other way and says that's alright. Microsoft threatens to sue The State of Mass when they proclaim they no longer wish to buy office software from a 3 times convicted monopolist that is stored in a proprietary format. Senator introduces legislation to support my media/pc equipment having the ability to only work when Hollywood says it can work. Luckily I can warm my house this winter with the smoldering remains of the Constitution. -- Trey Pattillo Registered Linux User #404804 [http://counter.li.org] Registered Linux Computer # 309229 [http://counter.li.org] ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] MI raster to Shape file
What about Microsoft's answer to Google Earth: http://local.live.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil Havermale Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 3:02 PM To: James M. Kelly; John Elliot Cc: MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: RE: [MI-L] MI raster to Shape file There may be very interesting opportunity to use the recent MapInfo to Google exporter for like transfers between systems.. Export selected objects or the active window as a KLV or KLM(?). These formats are XML-like and should be of universal appeal as data formats and its metadata are increasingly shifted towards Google Earth and Virtual Earth designs. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of James M. Kelly Sent: Mon 19/12/2005 11:54 PM To: John Elliot Cc: MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: RE: [MI-L] MI raster to Shape file John I world file is simply a text file that contains some information about the coordinate values of the image, but no coordinate system information. I have not used ArcPad, but I would imagine that the world files are standard old ESRI format. There is a free mbx on the directions website that is called TABtoTFW or something like that, which can be used to create a TFW (for tiff files) from TAB files. I have found some problems using this when the raster is screen registered in MapInfo, so I would use it with caution. Cheers James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Elliot Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2005 3:42 PM To: MapInfo Subject: [MI-L] MI raster to Shape file I am running MapInfo 5.5 and have installed ArcPad 6.0.3 on a handheld. Is it possible to transfer a raster map from MapInfo to ArcPad. I understand that ArcPad needs both a World File and a Projection File (datum file) in order to be able to recognise raster images. The Projection Files come with ArcPad but it seems World Files have to be created with one of the other Arc software packages. When I try to translate a raster map to a Shape file using Universal Translator it fails to translate and gives a message that it could not find any layers. Is there a utility, preferably at "mate's rates", that would do this job? John Elliot Bathurst, NSW 2795, AUSTRALIA ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l -- Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering. http://www.mailguard.com.au/tt ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ** Any opinions expressed in the email are those of the individual and not necessarily the company. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, or if you are concerned with the content of this email please e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The contents of an attachment to this e-mail may contain software viruses which could damage your own computer system. While the sender has taken every reasonable precaution to minimise this risk, we cannot accept liability for any damage which you sustain as a result of software viruses. You should carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachments to this e-mail. ** __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
Re: [MI-L] Fixes and New MapInfo Features
Søren Breddam wrote: This shouldn't be hard to implement.. Topology is obviously more difficult. If the topology issue was implemented, we could sell our license to Microstation ;-) And do even more interesting queries. Well, in the beginning, MapInfo decided to use a simple model that didn't need the rigorous set up that topology requires. When MI came out, it was trivial to make a map -- you just drew what you wanted and presto! You had a map. From the very beginning they were after the business market, not the science people. In fact MapInfo's first product was more like a pin-map tool to locate customers, franchises, etc. i.e. strictly business. It's also why they've resisted being called a GIS, opting instead for "desktop mapping." Business people don't know GIS, and don't wan to know GIS, but they're bang alongside things that are as accessible as a "desktop." MapInfo basically made a tool that could associate data with drawings, which is actually a fairly powerful concept. The alternative was Acr/INFO. To use that, you needed to understand GIS at the techno-weenie level and build your map objects by first establishing the nodes, then snap the arcs to those (assigning to and from nodes) and then build polygons by assigning ids to the left and right sides of the arcs. To do all this properly generaly took some time, but in the end, you were assured that operations like dissolving smaller areas into larger ones, or finding adjacent polygons or traversing a network all became pretty straight-forward when you could use arc-node topological math. Personally, I prefer ESRI's model because I like the internal consistency that topology adds. I also like their idea of associating style information with data attributes rather than making it part of the map data. That makes it easy to select information from the data with SQL whereas in MapInfo, if you want all the blue objects for example, you can't use SQL. But I must admit, there are times when MapInfo's model is just so much simpler to implement and sometimes a map *is* just a drawing with some data attached and you don't need to do anything with topology. My point is that I don't think MapInfo needs to be more "GISey" as much as they should pay attention to what their core market and focus is (or was.) It was business information analysis and presentation of spatial data. That means not only do they need good analysis tools (and data) but they really need to sex up their graphics presentation capability. They aren't aimed at doing modelling or network analysis so they don't *need* topology. But they do need better graphic tools so that the software's output can blow the collective socks off an audience. ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
Re: [MI-L] MI raster to Shape file
Bagwell, Ross wrote: What about Microsoft's answer to Google Earth: http://local.live.com/ You should see the flame about this on the Geowanking list! http://lists.burri.to:8080/pipermail/geowanking/2005-December/002220.html You can view the whole thread at http://lists.burri.to:8080/pipermail/geowanking/2005-December/date.html and scroll down to the messages titled "[Geowanking] MS local.live.com & privacy (lack of)" ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
Re: [MI-L] Fixes and New MapInfo Features
Seasons greetings listers, I tend to agree with Bill here, the challenge for me is not spatial accuracy for intensive analysis. My use of GIS is often simply communicating spatial relationships to non content experts. I certainly would receive the most value from any future upgrades if there was a focus on improving cartographic output... Generally speaking MI seems to have the analytical capacity I require (or the flexibilty to create it via MB), but lacks capacity in areas (ie: CartoGraphics) that I find it more difficult to compensate for. Cheers, Al. *** Alistair Hart GIS Project Officer Health Surveillance Tropical Public Health Unit Network PO Box 1103 Cairns QLD 4870 Ph: 0740 503 628 Fax: 0740 311 440 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Bill Thoen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 23/12/05 9:15:30 >>> Søren Breddam wrote: >This shouldn't be hard to implement.. Topology is obviously more difficult. >If the topology issue was implemented, we could sell our license to >Microstation ;-) And do even more interesting queries. > > Well, in the beginning, MapInfo decided to use a simple model that didn't need the rigorous set up that topology requires. When MI came out, it was trivial to make a map -- you just drew what you wanted and presto! You had a map. From the very beginning they were after the business market, not the science people. In fact MapInfo's first product was more like a pin-map tool to locate customers, franchises, etc. i.e. strictly business. It's also why they've resisted being called a GIS, opting instead for "desktop mapping." Business people don't know GIS, and don't wan to know GIS, but they're bang alongside things that are as accessible as a "desktop." MapInfo basically made a tool that could associate data with drawings, which is actually a fairly powerful concept. The alternative was Acr/INFO. To use that, you needed to understand GIS at the techno-weenie level and build your map objects by first establishing the nodes, then snap the arcs to those (assigning to and from nodes) and then build polygons by assigning ids to the left and right sides of the arcs. To do all this properly generaly took some time, but in the end, you were assured that operations like dissolving smaller areas into larger ones, or finding adjacent polygons or traversing a network all became pretty straight-forward when you could use arc-node topological math. Personally, I prefer ESRI's model because I like the internal consistency that topology adds. I also like their idea of associating style information with data attributes rather than making it part of the map data. That makes it easy to select information from the data with SQL whereas in MapInfo, if you want all the blue objects for example, you can't use SQL. But I must admit, there are times when MapInfo's model is just so much simpler to implement and sometimes a map *is* just a drawing with some data attached and you don't need to do anything with topology. My point is that I don't think MapInfo needs to be more "GISey" as much as they should pay attention to what their core market and focus is (or was.) It was business information analysis and presentation of spatial data. That means not only do they need good analysis tools (and data) but they really need to sex up their graphics presentation capability. They aren't aimed at doing modelling or network analysis so they don't *need* topology. But they do need better graphic tools so that the software's output can blow the collective socks off an audience. ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l * This email, including any attachments sent with it, is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). This confidentiality is not waived or lost, if you receive it and you are not the intended recipient(s), or if it is transmitted/ received in error. Any unauthorised use, alteration, disclosure, distribution or review of this email is strictly prohibited. The information contained in this email, including any attachment sent with it, may be subject to a statutory duty of confidentiality if it relates to health service matters. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or if you have received this email in error, you are asked to immediately notify the sender by telephone collect on Australia +61 1800 198 175 or by return email. You should also delete this email, and any copies, from your computer system network and destroy any hard copies produced. If not an intended recipient of this email, you must not copy, distribute or take any action(s) that relies on it; any form of disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this email is also prohibited. Although Queensland Health takes all reas
RE: [MI-L] Fixes and New MapInfo Features
Bill, I sort of disagree here. It would be nice if there was a hierarchy of points, arcs and polygons and all of those modelling niceties were there, but these were designed back when computers had less grunt than my calculator. Is it a big advantage now? Now, most of those sorts of calculations can be done by the software on the fly, generally in less time than in the old days. Arc's topology make it a good data capture tool, especially if you want to avoid getting slivers etc between polygons - but if you want to follow the same procedures, then surely there are some other good clean and build tools. I think that a far more important design feature is the intimate connection between the spatial object and the data about it. After all, arguably the most widely accepted spatial model is Oracle Spatial, and to my knowledge, it stores the spatial object as part of the data, and lets the software worry about topology. I'm sure that this connection to the data makes the whole integrated spatial and data query tighter. R --- Robert Crossley Agtrix P/L Australia Far Southern Queensland Office: 9 Short Street PO Box 63 New Brighton 2483 P: 61 2 6680 1309 F: 61 2 6680 5214 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.agtrix.com Brisbane Office: 109 Milsom St Cooparoo 4151 Queensland P: 61 7 3843 3363 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Thoen Sent: 23 December 2005 10:16 To: MapInfo List Subject: Re: [MI-L] Fixes and New MapInfo Features Søren Breddam wrote: >This shouldn't be hard to implement.. Topology is obviously more difficult. >If the topology issue was implemented, we could sell our license to Microstation ;-) And do even more interesting queries. > > Well, in the beginning, MapInfo decided to use a simple model that didn't need the rigorous set up that topology requires. When MI came out, it was trivial to make a map -- you just drew what you wanted and presto! You had a map. From the very beginning they were after the business market, not the science people. In fact MapInfo's first product was more like a pin-map tool to locate customers, franchises, etc. i.e. strictly business. It's also why they've resisted being called a GIS, opting instead for "desktop mapping." Business people don't know GIS, and don't wan to know GIS, but they're bang alongside things that are as accessible as a "desktop." MapInfo basically made a tool that could associate data with drawings, which is actually a fairly powerful concept. The alternative was Acr/INFO. To use that, you needed to understand GIS at the techno-weenie level and build your map objects by first establishing the nodes, then snap the arcs to those (assigning to and from nodes) and then build polygons by assigning ids to the left and right sides of the arcs. To do all this properly generaly took some time, but in the end, you were assured that operations like dissolving smaller areas into larger ones, or finding adjacent polygons or traversing a network all became pretty straight-forward when you could use arc-node topological math. Personally, I prefer ESRI's model because I like the internal consistency that topology adds. I also like their idea of associating style information with data attributes rather than making it part of the map data. That makes it easy to select information from the data with SQL whereas in MapInfo, if you want all the blue objects for example, you can't use SQL. But I must admit, there are times when MapInfo's model is just so much simpler to implement and sometimes a map *is* just a drawing with some data attached and you don't need to do anything with topology. My point is that I don't think MapInfo needs to be more "GISey" as much as they should pay attention to what their core market and focus is (or was.) It was business information analysis and presentation of spatial data. That means not only do they need good analysis tools (and data) but they really need to sex up their graphics presentation capability. They aren't aimed at doing modelling or network analysis so they don't *need* topology. But they do need better graphic tools so that the software's output can blow the collective socks off an audience. ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] Fixes and New MapInfo Features
Robert, I agree. I also see this as the best way to store data, combining the geographical part directly to the alfanumerical part - and this is actual what MapInfo has been doing for many years. But I can also see needs for more advanced topology features in MapInfo eventhough there already is a lot that can be done, you just need to write the application yourself. By the way, it is possible to select all blue polygons using SQL: Select * From MYTABLE Where Val(Str$(StyleAttr(ObjectInfo(OBJ, 3))) = RGB(0,0,255) I will also recommend everyone to pass on feature requests to your MapInfo reseller and ask them to pass them on to MapInfo. This is really the best way to tell MapInfo what you require. Of course this doesn't always mean that your wish can be fullfilled, but the more people wishing for a thing the bigger the chance ;-) And finally I would like to wish you all a merry Christmas and a happy New Year Peter Horsbøll Møller GIS Developer, MTM Geographical Information & IT COWI A/S Odensevej 95 DK-5260 Odense S. Denmark Tel +45 6311 4900 Direct +45 6311 4908 Mob +45 5156 1045 Fax +45 6311 4949 E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cowi.dk/gis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Crossley Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 2:58 AM To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: RE: [MI-L] Fixes and New MapInfo Features Bill, I sort of disagree here. It would be nice if there was a hierarchy of points, arcs and polygons and all of those modelling niceties were there, but these were designed back when computers had less grunt than my calculator. Is it a big advantage now? Now, most of those sorts of calculations can be done by the software on the fly, generally in less time than in the old days. Arc's topology make it a good data capture tool, especially if you want to avoid getting slivers etc between polygons - but if you want to follow the same procedures, then surely there are some other good clean and build tools. I think that a far more important design feature is the intimate connection between the spatial object and the data about it. After all, arguably the most widely accepted spatial model is Oracle Spatial, and to my knowledge, it stores the spatial object as part of the data, and lets the software worry about topology. I'm sure that this connection to the data makes the whole integrated spatial and data query tighter. R --- Robert Crossley Agtrix P/L Australia Far Southern Queensland Office: 9 Short Street PO Box 63 New Brighton 2483 P: 61 2 6680 1309 F: 61 2 6680 5214 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.agtrix.com Brisbane Office: 109 Milsom St Cooparoo 4151 Queensland P: 61 7 3843 3363 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Thoen Sent: 23 December 2005 10:16 To: MapInfo List Subject: Re: [MI-L] Fixes and New MapInfo Features Søren Breddam wrote: >This shouldn't be hard to implement.. Topology is obviously more >difficult. If the topology issue was implemented, we could sell our >license to Microstation ;-) And do even more interesting queries. > > Well, in the beginning, MapInfo decided to use a simple model that didn't need the rigorous set up that topology requires. When MI came out, it was trivial to make a map -- you just drew what you wanted and presto! You had a map. From the very beginning they were after the business market, not the science people. In fact MapInfo's first product was more like a pin-map tool to locate customers, franchises, etc. i.e. strictly business. It's also why they've resisted being called a GIS, opting instead for "desktop mapping." Business people don't know GIS, and don't wan to know GIS, but they're bang alongside things that are as accessible as a "desktop." MapInfo basically made a tool that could associate data with drawings, which is actually a fairly powerful concept. The alternative was Acr/INFO. To use that, you needed to understand GIS at the techno-weenie level and build your map objects by first establishing the nodes, then snap the arcs to those (assigning to and from nodes) and then build polygons by assigning ids to the left and right sides of the arcs. To do all this properly generaly took some time, but in the end, you were assured that operations like dissolving smaller areas into larger ones, or finding adjacent polygons or traversing a network all became pretty straight-forward when you could use arc-node topological math. Personally, I prefer ESRI's model because I like the internal consistency that topology adds. I also like their idea of associating style information with data attributes rather than making it part of the map data. That makes it easy to select information from the data with SQL whereas in MapInfo, if you want all the blue objects for example, you can't use SQL. But I must admit
