RE: [MI-L] Run Application

2006-03-17 Thread Spencer Simpson 
The real answer to this question is "By understanding the nature of the
first application".  Depending on that nature, you can either always be
sure, or never be sure. 

Simon doesn't specify the environment his script runs in, so I'm going to
assume it's all native MapInfo (i.e. workspaces or other MapBasic
applications). 

MapBasic applications come in two flavors: "scripts" and "tools".   Which
flavor depends upon the actions performed in a subroutine (called "Main")
built into every application.   
 
When a workspace or MapBasic application issues a Run Mapbasic Application
command, MapInfo takes control away from the "outer" application and gives
it to the "inner" one.   The "inner" application runs its Sub Main, then
MapInfo returns control to the "outer" application. 
 
A "script" runs some commands from its Sub Main and terminates.   If your
program gets to the next line of code after the Run Mapbasic Application
command that invoked the first application, you can be sure it's done.

A "tool"'s Sub Main installs some custom commands in menus and toolbars.
The application goes to sleep, waiting for the user to invoke the custom
commands.  Usually, one of these custom commands unloads the application.
The application isn't "finished" until the user invokes the command that
unloads it.
 
There are some DDE tricks that you can use to test if a "tool" has been
unloaded by the user, or if a particular task has completed, or to force it
to unload, but those mechanisms depend entirely on the application (i.e.
your first application) you want to test for or force closed. 

If you have access to the first application's source code, it's a better
idea to create a modified version that acts like a "script".   I sometimes
code in a "Batch Mode" setting that reads a value from an INI file to
determine whether the app should install menu commands or not.

Hope this helps
Spencer



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Hi
 
I have a script which issues two Run Application commands.
 
How can I ensure that the first application has finished running before
issuing the second command?
 
Ta
 
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RE: [MI-L] Run Application

2006-03-17 Thread Driver, Greg 9434 
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You 
could use DDE to to check that the 1st MapBasic app is running before executing 
the 2nd.  Have a look at the APPINFO.MB sample that comes with MapBasic for 
more information.
 
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  I have a script 
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  command?
   
  Ta
   
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RE: [MI-L] Run Application

2006-03-17 Thread Peter Horsbøll Møller 





Simon,
 
Some time ago I hade the same request and 
a friendly person (I think it was Bo Thomsen) on MapInfo-L supplied me with 
a Delphi DLL, that could do the trick.
 
The trick is to use a Windows API function 
that can wait for the called application to finish, before returning to the 
caller.
 
Let me know if you are interested and I'll 
send you the snippet that was given to me. As it contains files, I can't send 
them thru MapInfo-L
 


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Application

Simon
 
Not sure that the 1st will have finished before the 2nd 
begins?  Don't know myself.
 
The first 
could set like a semaphore flag, in a table, and the second could wait for this 
flag to have been set before running.  e.g.
 
Dim 
llGoAhead as logical
 
llGoAhead = 
FALSE
Run 
application "App1"  ' When this app finishes it sets flag 
SemaTable.LSEMFLAG 
 
Do while not 
llGoAhead
  Select LSEMFLAG from SemaTable into 
csrTemp
  
llGoAhead = csrTemp.LSEMFLAG  
Loop

Run 
application "App2"
 
This might 
not be necessary if the apps run discretely but HTH
 
Terry
 

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McDonnellSubject: [MI-L] Run Application


Hi
 
I have a script 
which issues two Run Application commands.
 
How can I ensure 
that the first application has finished running before issuing the second 
command?
 
Ta
 
Simon 
Allen
Senior GIS Officer
 
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RE: [MI-L] Run Application

2006-03-17 Thread Terry McDonnell 



Simon
 
Not sure that the 1st will have finished before the 2nd 
begins?  Don't know myself.
 
The first 
could set like a semaphore flag, in a table, and the second could wait for this 
flag to have been set before running.  e.g.
 
Dim 
llGoAhead as logical
 
llGoAhead = 
FALSE
Run 
application "App1"  ' When this app finishes it sets flag 
SemaTable.LSEMFLAG 
 
Do while not 
llGoAhead
  Select LSEMFLAG from SemaTable into 
csrTemp
  
llGoAhead = csrTemp.LSEMFLAG  
Loop

Run 
application "App2"
 
This might 
not be necessary if the apps run discretely but HTH
 
Terry
 

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Hi
 
I have a script 
which issues two Run Application commands.
 
How can I ensure 
that the first application has finished running before issuing the second 
command?
 
Ta
 
Simon 
Allen
Senior GIS Officer
 
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RE: MI-L Run Application

2005-09-16 Thread David Reid 
Once you find how easy it is to run other programs you might want to have a
look at User Menu by Christophe Barbier. I believe it is available from the
Directions Tool crib.

It allows you to add very customizable menus to the menu bar which can do
anything from open tab files, to run DOS batch files and open other
programs. User menus is managed by a user editable .ini file.

I don’t know what was handier than a shirt pocket before it came along, but
UserMenus is handier :)

I run DOS batch files that cause Access to do things, Open various Excel
files which I use for reference etc. just to name a few.

HTH

Dave



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Hey, me again. 

Is it possible to start another non-MI or non-MB application from a
mapbasic application? For example, I want to have a button on my tool
bar that will launch an access database outside of MI.

I have tried a few things but all I get is "could not execute - program
could not be run". 

Any hints?

Thanks, 

Alan


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RE: MI-L Run Application

2005-09-16 Thread Jakob Lanstorp 
use msaccess instead of access and normally you do not need the path to
access.

/J


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Yeah, I was checking that out, but it isn't working for me. How would
the notepad.exe know where the file is? In my example, would I use 
Run Program "Access.exe C:\TestDB\DataBasetest.mdb"
Or would it be something like
Run Program "Access.exe DataBasetest"
Neither of those seems to work.
Thanks for the help. I am also a big fan of the help menu.:) alan

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Cc: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com
Subject: RE: MI-L Run Application

>From the MapBasic help:

The following Run Program statement runs the Windows text editor,
"Notepad," and instructs Notepad to open the text file THINGS.2DO. 

 Run Program  "notepad.exe  things.2do" 

The following statement issues a DOS command. 

 Run Program "command.com /c  dir c:\mapinfo\ > C:\temp\dirlist.txt"

TGIF
Jakob


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-Original Message-
From: Alan Gunn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 4:39 PM
To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com
Subject: MI-L Run Application


Hey, me again. 

Is it possible to start another non-MI or non-MB application from a
mapbasic application? For example, I want to have a button on my tool
bar that will launch an access database outside of MI.

I have tried a few things but all I get is "could not execute - program
could not be run". 

Any hints?

Thanks, 

Alan



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RE: MI-L Run Application

2005-09-16 Thread Dewen Hou 

Try this:  "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\MSAccess.exe" "C:\TestDB\DataBasetest.mdb"


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Yeah, I was checking that out, but it isn't working for me. How would
the notepad.exe know where the file is? In my example, would I use 
Run Program "Access.exe C:\TestDB\DataBasetest.mdb"
Or would it be something like
Run Program "Access.exe DataBasetest"
Neither of those seems to work.
Thanks for the help. I am also a big fan of the help menu.:)
alan

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From: Jakob Lanstorp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 10:03 AM
To: Alan Gunn
Cc: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com
Subject: RE: MI-L Run Application

>From the MapBasic help:

The following Run Program statement runs the Windows text editor,
"Notepad," and instructs Notepad to open the text file THINGS.2DO. 

 Run Program  "notepad.exe  things.2do" 

The following statement issues a DOS command. 

 Run Program "command.com /c  dir c:\mapinfo\ > C:\temp\dirlist.txt"

TGIF
Jakob


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-Original Message-
From: Alan Gunn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 4:39 PM
To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com
Subject: MI-L Run Application


Hey, me again. 

Is it possible to start another non-MI or non-MB application from a
mapbasic application? For example, I want to have a button on my tool
bar that will launch an access database outside of MI.

I have tried a few things but all I get is "could not execute - program
could not be run". 

Any hints?

Thanks, 

Alan


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RE: MI-L Run Application

2005-09-16 Thread Alan Gunn 
Yeah, I was checking that out, but it isn't working for me. How would
the notepad.exe know where the file is? In my example, would I use 
Run Program "Access.exe C:\TestDB\DataBasetest.mdb"
Or would it be something like
Run Program "Access.exe DataBasetest"
Neither of those seems to work.
Thanks for the help. I am also a big fan of the help menu.:)
alan

-Original Message-
From: Jakob Lanstorp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 10:03 AM
To: Alan Gunn
Cc: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com
Subject: RE: MI-L Run Application

>From the MapBasic help:

The following Run Program statement runs the Windows text editor,
"Notepad," and instructs Notepad to open the text file THINGS.2DO. 

 Run Program  "notepad.exe  things.2do" 

The following statement issues a DOS command. 

 Run Program "command.com /c  dir c:\mapinfo\ > C:\temp\dirlist.txt"

TGIF
Jakob


Jakob Lanstorp
Senior Consultant
Geographical Information & IT

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Odensevej 95
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http://www.cowi.com


-Original Message-
From: Alan Gunn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 4:39 PM
To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com
Subject: MI-L Run Application


Hey, me again. 

Is it possible to start another non-MI or non-MB application from a
mapbasic application? For example, I want to have a button on my tool
bar that will launch an access database outside of MI.

I have tried a few things but all I get is "could not execute - program
could not be run". 

Any hints?

Thanks, 

Alan


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RE: MI-L Run Application

2005-09-16 Thread Jakob Lanstorp 
>From the MapBasic help:

The following Run Program statement runs the Windows text editor,
"Notepad," and instructs Notepad to open the text file THINGS.2DO. 

 Run Program  "notepad.exe  things.2do" 

The following statement issues a DOS command. 

 Run Program "command.com /c  dir c:\mapinfo\ > C:\temp\dirlist.txt"

TGIF
Jakob


Jakob Lanstorp
Senior Consultant
Geographical Information & IT

COWI A/S
Odensevej 95
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Fax  +45 6311 4949
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-Original Message-
From: Alan Gunn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 4:39 PM
To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com
Subject: MI-L Run Application


Hey, me again. 

Is it possible to start another non-MI or non-MB application from a
mapbasic application? For example, I want to have a button on my tool
bar that will launch an access database outside of MI.

I have tried a few things but all I get is "could not execute - program
could not be run". 

Any hints?

Thanks, 

Alan


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