Re: Trouble with parentheses in Markdown hyperlinks

2012-10-21 Thread David J. Weller-Fahy
* Boris Le Ninivin  [2012-10-22 01:14 -0400]:
> On 10/22/2012 06:21 AM, David J. Weller-Fahy wrote:
> >Let me know if this is still needed given the contributions from John
> >McFarlane, et al.
> 
> Thank you very much for your proposal. I've not been able to get a VPS
> yet, so it could be handy if we could have a "slot" on yours.
> 
> Are the following services installed / configured / running (or
> deployed) on your server :
> 
> A) Nginx

Nope: I'm using mathopd as my http server.

> B) gitolite

No, but this would not be (I think) very difficult.

> C) fcgiwrap

No, but (again) I don't think it would be very difficult.

> If yes, would you like to set the wiki up yourself, or do you prefer
> someone else (it can be me) to set it up?

It's bed time where I'm at, so I'll respond more fully tomorrow or the
next day.  However, I know I would not have time to set it up, but I'd
be willing to get accounts setup for those who would need them.

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Re: Trouble with parentheses in Markdown hyperlinks

2012-10-21 Thread Boris Le Ninivin

On 10/22/2012 06:21 AM, David J. Weller-Fahy wrote:

* Boris Le Ninivin  [2012-10-18 10:28 -0400]:

I've found a free VPS service, vps.me, which would be sufficient for a
simple ikiwiki setup; but it requires a (working) phone number, and I
don't have any...

So, it's possible, but I can't do it myself ;)

* Alan Hogan  [2012-10-18 12:02 -0400]:

I have a working US telephone number. Boris, I’ll email you directly.

Gentlemen, I'm late to thread, but I have a VPS which is severely
underutilized.  I'm already using an ikiwiki instance on there for my
own web site, and would be willing to host a community site for Markdown
(multi-dingus or whatever).

Let me know if this is still needed given the contributions from John
McFarlane, et al.

Regards,

Hello.

Thank you very much for your proposal. I've not been able to get a VPS 
yet, so it could be handy if we could have a "slot" on yours.


Are the following services installed / configured / running (or 
deployed) on your server :


A) Nginx
B) gitolite
C) fcgiwrap

?

If yes, would you like to set the wiki up yourself, or do you prefer 
someone else (it can be me) to set it up?


Regards,
Boris.
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Re: Trouble with parentheses in Markdown hyperlinks

2012-10-21 Thread David J. Weller-Fahy
* David J. Weller-Fahy  
[2012-10-22 00:28 -0400]:
> John McFarlane

Apologies: MacFarlane

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Re: Trouble with parentheses in Markdown hyperlinks

2012-10-21 Thread David J. Weller-Fahy
* Boris Le Ninivin  [2012-10-18 10:28 -0400]:
> I've found a free VPS service, vps.me, which would be sufficient for a
> simple ikiwiki setup; but it requires a (working) phone number, and I
> don't have any...
> 
> So, it's possible, but I can't do it myself ;)

* Alan Hogan  [2012-10-18 12:02 -0400]:
> I have a working US telephone number. Boris, I’ll email you directly.

Gentlemen, I'm late to thread, but I have a VPS which is severely
underutilized.  I'm already using an ikiwiki instance on there for my
own web site, and would be willing to host a community site for Markdown
(multi-dingus or whatever).

Let me know if this is still needed given the contributions from John
McFarlane, et al.

Regards,
-- 
dave [ please don't CC me ]


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Re: Trouble with parentheses in Markdown hyperlinks

2012-10-21 Thread John MacFarlane
+++ John Gruber [Oct 18 12 22:20 ]:
> On 17 Oct 2012, at 9:40pm, Alan Hogan  wrote:
> 
> > I do have to warn you, however. While a number of maintainers have gone to 
> > great lengths to maximize interoperability, there *is* no BDFL (benevolent 
> > dictator for life)
> 
> Yes there is. I believe Markdown has thrived and continues to grow because I 
> haven't fucked around with it. The canonical docs are those on Daring 
> Fireball.

Unfortunately, those docs are vague on a number of important questions (I'm
not talking about corner cases).  I've tried to list a few of them here:

http://johnmacfarlane.net/babelmark2/faq.html#what-are-some-big-questions-that-the-markdown-spec-does-not-answer

I hope you'll consider weighing in on some of these things and
clarifying the official documentation.  I don't see how this would
prevent markdown from growing and thriving. It is frustrating for those
who write in markdown to find that their documents get interpreted
differently by different markdown processors.  And it is frustrating
for implementers not to know when something is a bug.

John

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Re: Multidingus

2012-10-21 Thread John MacFarlane
+++ Waylan Limberg [Oct 21 12 12:49 ]:
>Very interesting examples in that FAQ.
> 
>Although I would say this one is a little misleading:
> 
>[1]http://johnmacfarlane.net/babelmark2/?text=%5C%5C%5Btest%5D(not+a+li
>nk%3F)
> 
>It would more accurately be this:
> 
>[2]http://johnmacfarlane.net/babelmark2/?text=%5C%5C%5Btest%5D(notalink
>%3F)
>While that is a lot less interesting, it is not exhibiting the issue of
>spaces in urls - which is the next item on your list.
> 
>There could also be this:
> 
>[3]http://johnmacfarlane.net/babelmark2/?text=%5C%5Btest%5D(notalink%3F
>)
> 
>Which is also not very interesting. The only difference in these two
>examples is the way php markdown handles escaped characters - which has
>nothing specific to do with links. Seems to me like none of
>these examples belong on the list.

Agreed. I was confused. I removed it.

John
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Re: Multidingus

2012-10-21 Thread Waylan Limberg
Very interesting examples in that FAQ.

Although I would say this one is a little misleading:

http://johnmacfarlane.net/babelmark2/?text=%5C%5C%5Btest%5D(not+a+link%3F)

It would more accurately be this:

http://johnmacfarlane.net/babelmark2/?text=%5C%5C%5Btest%5D(notalink%3F)

While that is a lot less interesting, it is not exhibiting the issue of
spaces in urls - which is the next item on your list.

There could also be this:

http://johnmacfarlane.net/babelmark2/?text=%5C%5Btest%5D(notalink%3F)

Which is also not very interesting. The only difference in these two
examples is the way php markdown handles escaped characters - which has
nothing specific to do with links. Seems to me like none of
these examples belong on the list.

Waylan

On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 11:21 PM, John MacFarlane  wrote:

> Thanks!  I've added a FAQ:
>
> http://johnmacfarlane.net/babelmark2/faq.html
>
> This contains a longer list of interesting examples of differences
> between implementations, plus instructions on how to get your markdown
> implementation added to the comparisons.
>
> +++ David Chambers [Oct 19 12 15:16 ]:
> >This is a terrific tool, John. I now realize how much disagreement
> >there is between the different Markdown libs on certain topics (such
> as
> >consecutive lists).
> >
> >David
> >
> >On Friday, 19 October 2012 at 2:51 PM, John MacFarlane wrote:
> >
> >+++ Alan Hogan [Oct 19 12 14:07 ]:
> >
> >Here’s a tiny bookmarklet that can be run on Babelmark 2 as it stands
> >today, that replaces all the  elements on the page with an HTML
> >preview:
> >javascript:$('pre').each(function(i, el){ var html = $(el).text();
> >$(el).replaceWith($('').html(html)); });
> >Or, you may drag it into your bookmarks page from here:
> ><[1][1]http://peg.gd/2IU>
> >It’s not Good Code and doesn’t do anything useful like add tabs to
> >switch between representations, but hey, I spent five minutes on this
> >and it’s kind of useful, so I’m sharing it.
> >
> >Alan,
> >This is useful. I've incorporated it into the site itself, so you
> >can now toggle between "Preview" and "Code" modes. When I have a bit
> >of time I'll make it use tabs for this instead -- that would be nicer.
> >John
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