Re: [libreoffice-marketing] making the confcalls more attracting
On 9 July 2011 19:28, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hello, > > the participation in the latest marketing conference calls hasn't been > that overwhelming. :/ > > With this e-mail, I would like to discuss on how we can make these calls > more attracting. Those who did not attend, I would like to ask, on why. :-) > > Calls occur too often? Too rarely? > Calls are too long? Too short? > Boring content? > Language barrier? > Wrong time(zone)? > Calls just don't fit our way of working? > > I'm not blaming anyone, I just would like to get information on why the > participation rate is so low. If we end up with calls being useless, > that's okay, but I would like to avoid planning and organizing such > calls, when the interest is rather low. We might end up with solely > using the mailing list, or IRC, or Skype - that's what I want to find out. > > So, I'd like to ask for your humble opinion on that. If you prefer, you > can also reply offlist via private mail. > Just came at a bad time for me with pressure of work. But I will try to participate more :-) -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] building up a marketing network
On 10 July 2011 02:41, Takeshi Abe wrote: > Hello Florian, all, > > On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 20:43:18 +0200, Florian Effenberger < > flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > back in the OpenOffice.org times, we had a comprehensive list of so > > called MarCons (http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html), > > marketing contacts for various languages and regions. They acted as a > > local point of contact for the press and for local events (outside > > channel), but also were in charge of translating press releases, > > distributing them and coordinating with the local communities (inside > > channel). They also represented their language groups in the marketing > > confcalls and on the conference. > Great idea, thanks a lot for your initiative. > > > > > As discussed in the latest marketing conference calls, we would like to > > have something similar for LibreOffice, to work together more > efficiently. > > > > Right now, we have four media spokespeople for The Document Foundation > > (http://www.documentfoundation.org/contact/), who are eligible of > > representing the foundation in the press. The number of official TDF > > contacts should be rather limited, as they represent the legal entity of > > the foundation at large in the press, so I would not do any major > > changes to these four people. > +1 > > > > > For LibreOffice, i.e. the project and the software, no official contacts > > exist so far, and I would like to change that, and I envision a similar > > scheme as we had with OpenOffice.org. At the moment, only a few language > > groups translate press releases, and there seem to be some confusion on > > who is "eligible" of representing LibreOffice. In order to have a better > > press appearance, I think it is crucial that we have defined > > responsibilities, publically known contacts, and some processes in > > place. One of these processes would be to regularly take care of the > > press release translations. We will also set-up an internal space where > > press contacts and other items could be shared amongst the contacts. > > > > My (rough) idea for the moment is that each language group names one or > > ideally two marketing representatives, preferably through voting. Those > > contacts should already engage themselves in the global marketing > > mailing list, and if there are no objections from the wider community, > > we should set them in place on a publically available website. > +1 for two representatives per language, because it will help each > local community to avoid so-called a single point of failure and > to encourage them to work together collaboratively. > > Cheers, > -- Takeshi Abe > > > > > We can discuss about the details, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on > > the basic idea first. > > > > Thanks! > > Florian > > > > -- > > Florian Effenberger > > Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation > > Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 > > Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > +1. One thing I'd like to see is a quarterly report. Just a quick list of actions or activities during the last quarter and any future plans for each marcon in a central place eg a wiki. This would ensure ideas and practice spreads between marcons and also makes each think wit a bit of focus about what they have taken on. -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] building up a marketing network
== Yes, great idea. 2011/7/10 Ian Lynch > On 10 July 2011 02:41, Takeshi Abe wrote: > > > Hello Florian, all, > > > > On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 20:43:18 +0200, Florian Effenberger < > > flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > back in the OpenOffice.org times, we had a comprehensive list of so > > > called MarCons (http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html), > > > marketing contacts for various languages and regions. They acted as a > > > local point of contact for the press and for local events (outside > > > channel), but also were in charge of translating press releases, > > > distributing them and coordinating with the local communities (inside > > > channel). They also represented their language groups in the marketing > > > confcalls and on the conference. > > Great idea, thanks a lot for your initiative. > > > > > > > > As discussed in the latest marketing conference calls, we would like to > > > have something similar for LibreOffice, to work together more > > efficiently. > > > > > > Right now, we have four media spokespeople for The Document Foundation > > > (http://www.documentfoundation.org/contact/), who are eligible of > > > representing the foundation in the press. The number of official TDF > > > contacts should be rather limited, as they represent the legal entity > of > > > the foundation at large in the press, so I would not do any major > > > changes to these four people. > > +1 > > > > > > > > For LibreOffice, i.e. the project and the software, no official > contacts > > > exist so far, and I would like to change that, and I envision a similar > > > scheme as we had with OpenOffice.org. At the moment, only a few > language > > > groups translate press releases, and there seem to be some confusion on > > > who is "eligible" of representing LibreOffice. In order to have a > better > > > press appearance, I think it is crucial that we have defined > > > responsibilities, publically known contacts, and some processes in > > > place. One of these processes would be to regularly take care of the > > > press release translations. We will also set-up an internal space where > > > press contacts and other items could be shared amongst the contacts. > > > > > > My (rough) idea for the moment is that each language group names one or > > > ideally two marketing representatives, preferably through voting. Those > > > contacts should already engage themselves in the global marketing > > > mailing list, and if there are no objections from the wider community, > > > we should set them in place on a publically available website. > > +1 for two representatives per language, because it will help each > > local community to avoid so-called a single point of failure and > > to encourage them to work together collaboratively. > > > > Cheers, > > -- Takeshi Abe > > > > > > > > We can discuss about the details, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on > > > the basic idea first. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > Florian > > > > > > -- > > > Florian Effenberger > > > Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation > > > Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 > > > Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff > > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > deleted > > > > +1. One thing I'd like to see is a quarterly report. Just a quick list of > actions or activities during the last quarter and any future plans for each > marcon in a central place eg a wiki. This would ensure ideas and practice > spreads between marcons and also makes each think wit a bit of focus about > what they have taken on. > > -- > Ian > > Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) > > www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 > > The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, > Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and > Wales. > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- Hélio José Santiago Ferreira Linux User #384101 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] building up a marketing network
Ian Lynch wrote: +1. One thing I'd like to see is a quarterly report. Just a quick list of actions or activities during the last quarter and any future plans for each marcon in a central place eg a wiki. This would ensure ideas and practice spreads between marcons and also makes each think wit a bit of focus about what they have taken on. Yes, I agree on a central tracking tool for marketing actions, which would make it easier to share best practices. And, of course, I agree on a more structured marketing organization, because we badly need to increase the visibility of the project. -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com Mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP: +39.02.320621813 Skype: italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] fixed-time marketing calls
Hello, during the last call, we decided we want to try out fixed-time marketing calls. I.e., we have one poll, and in the future, every month, calls will be at the same weekday and time. I've set up a Doodle poll at http://www.doodle.com/pdsx39rueycptpeu and would welcome your feedback. Let us know which day of the week and time of the day is best for a marketing conference call, and then we will try to plan accordingly. This will remove the burden of having a poll every month, and might help in better planning. Looking forward to the results :-) Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: making the confcalls more attracting
Hi Marc, Marc Paré wrote on 2011-07-10 07.11: > I was just wondering if you were involved with Marketing confcalls with > OOo and were they well attended? Are these individuals still with us at > LibreOffice? We should get their opinions as to why they are not > attending. Did you do Talkyoo! confcalls with OOo or was it just IRC? the idea of the confcalls came up at the OOoCon in Orvieto in 2009. Several participants of the marketing meeting proposed we should start with these calls, and we did so in January of 2010. We are using the same timeline (monthly), service (talkyoo + IRC) and process (poll + agenda on the lists) as back then. The participation with OOo has also not been that high, from a gut feeling I'd say between 5 and 8 people each call. We're a bit lower in participation here at LibO, but in principle, it has been rather comparable, I'd say. However, in terms of agenda creation, I recall more feedback from the callers, but also that's just from a gut feeling. > We should be advertising confcall on all NL groups, but the word is not > being sent along. I think the confcalls are successful even if people > lurk on the sidelines. Absolutely! Any help here is highly appreciated. Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] making the confcalls more attracting
Hi *, disclaimer, I'm not active in marketing, just lurking, but for completeness' sake On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > > the participation in the latest marketing conference calls hasn't been > that overwhelming. :/ > [...] > Calls occur too often? Too rarely? > Calls are too long? Too short? > Boring content? > Language barrier? > Wrong time(zone)? > Calls just don't fit our way of working? I'd like to add Problems dialing in? to the list of questions. If the answer is "yes", would openmeetings or mumble (i.e. internet based solutions instead of telephone-line based ones) be an alternative for you? (we got testing servers for both so you can play with them see http://www.mail-archive.com/website@global.libreoffice.org/msg05142.html on how to access them) ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Next North American Community meeting -- Monday July 11, 2011 Time: 22:00UTC OR 18:00 NewYork time.
Hi everyone As Tim will be doing a report to on the NA DVD project, the meeting will be held at 22:00h UTC OR 18:00h NewYork time. This will also allow Italo to participate in the discussion. To view your regional time, just use the dropdown menu on the Doodle poll page[1]. You can also see read the previous meeting minutes as well as the July11th notes on the wiki pages[2] Cheers Marc [1] http://www.doodle.com/95zp4qh8zar2krq2 [2] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/North-American-Community/meetings#Date:_July_11.2C_2011_.28Time:_22:00UTC_OR_18:00_NewYork_Time.29 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] building up a marketing network
Hi :) +1 Regards from Tom :) From: Takeshi Abe To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 10 July, 2011 2:41:11 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] building up a marketing network Hello Florian, all, On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 20:43:18 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hello, > > My (rough) idea for the moment is that each language group names one or > ideally two marketing representatives, preferably through voting. Those > contacts should already engage themselves in the global marketing > mailing list, and if there are no objections from the wider community, > we should set them in place on a publically available website. +1 for two representatives per language, because it will help each local community to avoid so-called a single point of failure and to encourage them to work together collaboratively. Cheers, -- Takeshi Abe -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Next North American Community meeting -- Monday July 11, 2011 Time: 22:00UTC OR 18:00 NewYork time.
OK 6pm New York time. Anything you want me to have in front of me? Any statics? On 07/10/2011 04:42 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Hi everyone As Tim will be doing a report to on the NA DVD project, the meeting will be held at 22:00h UTC OR 18:00h NewYork time. This will also allow Italo to participate in the discussion. To view your regional time, just use the dropdown menu on the Doodle poll page[1]. You can also see read the previous meeting minutes as well as the July11th notes on the wiki pages[2] Cheers Marc [1] http://www.doodle.com/95zp4qh8zar2krq2 [2] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/North-American-Community/meetings#Date:_July_11.2C_2011_.28Time:_22:00UTC_OR_18:00_NewYork_Time.29 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Next North American Community meeting -- Monday July 11, 2011 Time: 22:00UTC OR 18:00 NewYork time.
Le 2011-07-10 17:13, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit : OK 6pm New York time. Anything you want me to have in front of me? Any statics? On 07/10/2011 04:42 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Hi everyone As Tim will be doing a report to on the NA DVD project, the meeting will be held at 22:00h UTC OR 18:00h NewYork time. This will also allow Italo to participate in the discussion. To view your regional time, just use the dropdown menu on the Doodle poll page[1]. You can also see read the previous meeting minutes as well as the July11th notes on the wiki pages[2] Cheers Marc [1] http://www.doodle.com/95zp4qh8zar2krq2 [2] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/North-American-Community/meetings#Date:_July_11.2C_2011_.28Time:_22:00UTC_OR_18:00_NewYork_Time.29 Hi Tim As we only have one hour, I think just a brief rundown on what has been done and what needs to be done for the DVD project. We can work out some action items for the project as we go along. People will also need the URL for the DVD LibreOfficeBox site. Cheers Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: making the confcalls more attracting
Le 2011-07-10 14:56, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : Hi *, disclaimer, I'm not active in marketing, just lurking, but for completeness' sake On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: the participation in the latest marketing conference calls hasn't been that overwhelming. :/ [...] Calls occur too often? Too rarely? Calls are too long? Too short? Boring content? Language barrier? Wrong time(zone)? Calls just don't fit our way of working? I'd like to add Problems dialing in? to the list of questions. If the answer is "yes", would openmeetings or mumble (i.e. internet based solutions instead of telephone-line based ones) be an alternative for you? (we got testing servers for both so you can play with them see http://www.mail-archive.com/website@global.libreoffice.org/msg05142.html on how to access them) ciao Christian I don't think we have had that many problems with dialing in. Maybe the cost of long distance fees may bother some people. I have to dial in California from Canada which is long distance fees. I personally think it would be nice to use Mumble instead of Talkyoo. It seems to work well once you have it working on your system. There have been problems with some Mac people and some people on Linux. Some of us on the US marketing list have tested Mumble and it seemed to work well. We need to try it on a real meeting to fully test it. Cheers, Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
