Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice merchandise shop - slogan ideas?

[klaus-jürgen weghorn ol]

Hi Mike,

Am 15.05.2017 um 13:50 schrieb Mike Saunders:

Hi everyone,

I'm bringing this topic back up again in case there are any more ideas.
To recap, we want to update our merchandise shop so that the products
have a slogan, and not just a logo. Let's choose a slogan!

My proposals:



2. Powerful, creative, open


We have had this slogan for a long time:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts#Slogan_and_Download

I think in the wiki you will find much more banners, stickers, proposals 
with this slogan.



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] preparing FOSDEM and HackFest - help appreciated now

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Hi Cor, all,

Am 19.01.2015 um 11:01 schrieb Marina Latini:



- Messaggio originale -

Da: "Cor Nouws" 
A: "Marketing LibreOffice" 
Inviato: Giovedì, 8 gennaio 2015 16:12:09
Oggetto: [libreoffice-marketing] preparing FOSDEM and HackFest - help 
appreciated now


In only four weeks, FOSDEM will be at full swing. And the two day's
thereafter, we'll have another great hackfest, kindly hosted at
Betacowork in Brussels.



Hi Cor, all,
FOSDEM is coming... :)
What about our wiki page for the event?
We have this outdated page[0] that is in a different path (the old ones[1] are 
under Marketing/Events). Is this a mistake?

[0] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2015/FOSDEM
[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/Fosdem2014


and for the Hackfest:

[2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/FOSDEM2014

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice Events

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Hi Marc,
Am 22.11.2013 19:23, schrieb Marc Paré:

Hi KJ

Le 2013-11-22 12:56, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol a écrit :

Hi Marc,

[...]




What about our bughunting session for 4.2. on 6th and 7th December 2013
[1]?

[1]
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.2.0#When:_December_6_and_7






Who should I put down as contact person in case someone needs to email a
question?


Sophie made the page [1]. I think she shuold be asked for that and for 
the broken link.


[2] 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/2013-November/005758.html



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Events

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Hi Marc,
Am 22.11.2013 16:22, schrieb Marc Paré:

Just a reminder to everyone on this list. If you see an event where
LibreOffice has presence, leave a note on this list and someone will add
it to our events calendar. It is important for us to show that we are an
active group worldwide to help promote our communities and software.

Events of any native language groups will be posted after translated in
EN either by the events calendar admins or the events contact persons.



What about our bughunting session for 4.2. on 6th and 7th December 2013 [1]?

[1] 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.2.0#When:_December_6_and_7



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] preparation of CFL for next conference

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Hi Sophie, Florian, *,

Am 15.10.2013 10:51, schrieb Sophie:

Hi all,

I've updated (with the help of Florian) the Call for Location for next
year LibreOffice Conference [1] .
We would like to announce the opening of the call this week. If you have
any remarks on the wiki page content, please tell me now so we can
discuss it asap.

[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/CallforLocation


Last time there was a discussion about not to take an European city for 
the next conference. So we should invide intensively the 
"Out-of-Europeans". And maybe we should say that if two (or more) 
Non-European cities are in the voting an European city won't be in the 
voting. But that should be a BoD's decision.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Hamburg Hackfest Flyers -- please verify

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Hi Björn,
Am 11.06.2013 08:00, schrieb klaus-jürgen weghorn ol:

[...]



One little design thing:
I made the logo for the Freiburg Hackfest [1] and the Munich 2012
Hackfest [2]. There I put in the TDF favicon to make the banner
recognizable to LibreOffice.
So it is easier for you to use the banner for itself and to let it be
connected to TDF.


[...]

Something like that:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts/Design#Hackfest

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Hamburg Hackfest Flyers -- please verify

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Hi Björn,
Am 11.06.2013 03:22, schrieb Bjoern Michaelsen:

Hi all,

with some good help and inspiration from Issa, Cor and others on the design
list, I hacked up a flyer for distribution at a local university. It would be
great if someone (preferibly german -- for the texts) could check the result
at:

  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:HackfestHamburg2013Flyer.odg


IMHO:
1. Either no ":" or no "an" in


Das Paket bietet Lösungen für:

- Textverarbeitung
- [...]
an und ist weltweit milllionenfach im Einsatz.


2. After Textverarbeitung and the other bullets in the list there should 
be a comma except the last bullet if you don't close the sentence after 
that.


I would prefer:

Das Paket bietet Lösungen für
- Textverarbeitung,
- [...],
- und Datenverarbeitung.
Es ist weltweit millionenfach im Einsatz.


One little design thing:
I made the logo for the Freiburg Hackfest [1] and the Munich 2012 
Hackfest [2]. There I put in the TDF favicon to make the banner 
recognizable to LibreOffice.
So it is easier for you to use the banner for itself and to let it be 
connected to TDF.



[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:FreiburgHackfest2013.png
[2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:MucHackfest2012.png

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Brochure-type: General Information

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Hi Jean, Marc,
sorry for the interference. I only follow these threads with one eye and 
maybe I loose the following discussions.
- I didn't find any link in the wiki pages to files of the Brochures, 
neither the working ones nor the result. And scrolling through the 
thread to find the working links is not easy.
- Shouldn't we do the brochure for LibO 4 and not for 4.0? So we needn't 
to change it with 4.1, and the brochures can e.g. be part of different 
LibOxes. Then Tim et al. needn't to change it every time. And printings 
won't be old in July 28th, when 4.1.0 is released.


> Files here:


ODT
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOfficeV.4.0.x-CommunityBrochure-GeneralInformation-A4_JHW.odt
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOfficeV.4.0.x-CommunityBrochure-GeneralInformation-USLtr_JHW.odt

PDF
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOfficeV.4.0.x-CommunityBrochure-GeneralInformation-A4_JHW.pdf
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOfficeV.4.0.x-CommunityBrochure-GeneralInformation-USLtr_JHW.pdf



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Hackfest Freiburg 2013

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Hi Björn,

Am 26.03.2013 22:10, schrieb Bjoern Michaelsen:
> Hi all,
> 
> I just created a skeleton wikipage for the Freiburg Hackfest at:
> 
>  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Freiburg2013
> 
> anyone wanting to help out with completing it is invited (e.g. the usual
> suspects creating a Hackfest Freiburg logo like
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:HHHackfest2013.png would be awesome).

Have a look at the page if it is right.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Open-Xchange to launch open-source, browser-based office suite

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Am 21.03.2013 19:43, schrieb Marc Paré:
> Le 21/03/13 12:29 PM, Benjamin Horst a écrit :
>>> http://www.itworld.com/enterprise-software/348971/open-xchange-launch-open-source-browser-based-office-suite
>>>
>>
>> This looks promising. If you visit the demo site, you can click around
>> and use a real, pre-release version of the app now. It looks good and
>> seems to work well.
>>
>> Ben
>>
> 
> I wonder who the OOo devs could be? It would have been neat if they had
> contributed to the LibreOffice project.

I don't know who they exactly are but it is easy to speculate. It is
Easter time so we can search some Easter eggs. ;-)

Have a look for the former Release Manager of OpenOffice.org and the
actual Senior Product Manager of Open-Xchange and you will find one. The
others are near by.

Some hints (in German): [1]

But I don't think that there is any interest to contribute, neither from
the former OOo devs nor from Open-XChange, a former daughter of SUSE,
who are in the same building complex with the headquarter of SUSE [2].
So it would be an easy way to take a cup of coffee, do a short walk and
talk f2f.

[1]
http://www.linux-magazin.de/NEWS/Vorstoss-Team-OpenOffice.org-veroeffentlicht-White-Label-Office-3.3.1-RC
[2]
https://www.suse.com/company/contact/headquarters/



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: marketing "slogan"

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Hi Marc, Tim and Tom,
Am 05.03.2013 13:15, schrieb Marc Paré:
> We have been using this slogan for v.4.0: "LibreOffice 4: The free
> office suite the community has been dreaming of for twelve years." It is
> on our LibreOffice.org landing page. It is on the first slide.
> 
> We have also used the slogan that you can see on our Awards page[2]
> "Fantastic People. Fun Project. Free Office Suite." 

And the documentation team uses a small variation for documentation 4.0:

"Fantastic Community. Fun Project, Free Office Suite."



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice and The Document Foundation names in non-Latin languages

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Am 27.02.2013 09:25, schrieb Cor Nouws:
> Hello Issa,
> 
> Issa Alkurtass wrote (23-02-13 12:41)
> 
>> I've been wondering for a while how to handle LibreOffice and The
>> Document Foundation names in non-Latin languages:
>> - Translate them to their literal meaning.
>> - Transliterate them using non-Latin characters.
>> - Write them in English/using Latin characters.
>>
>> I've seen all three variations used, but which one is the right one?
> 
> Interesting question :-)
> I think it partly depends on the situation / public that you comminicate
> with.
> In some groups it would be perfect OK to just write the names in
> English. While maybe for most (just a guess) transliterate would be best.
> Personally I would like to avoid the first option, translation to their
> literal meaning. And if it is used, only in combination with one of the
> two others.
> 
> I hope theses thoughts help a bit!

How do you handle with CocaCola, Samsung, Mc Donald's etc.?
How do you handle with proper names?

LibreOffice is a trademark and TheDocumentFoundation is a proper name.
Even the Japanese, Korean, Chinese write the international company's
names in latin [1], [2].

Maybe explaining the sense of the "speaking" names will help, too.

E.g.:
[1] http://www.samsung.com/jp/#latest-home
[2] http://www.smotor.com/kr/index.html

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice brochures

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Am 20.02.2013 17:26, schrieb Daniel A. Rodriguez:
> Hi, could you please take a look at this file
> 
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Triptico-LibreOffice-Carta.odt
> 
> What do you think about? Is in spanish, I know, but generally speaking I
> mean. The layout, the amount of info, etc.

Should this be an "official" marketing brochure?

If so my opinions to that:
The brochure is breaking the branding rules [1] (but no-one seems to
care of branding rules lately): You should not put the logo above
LibreOffice.

I don't know if it is a good idea to use a voted out cover design.
The design of 4.0 web page (and of 4.0 documentation) leads to another
direction: black half circle with logo on it. But there was no design
(or marketing) decision about that, as I remember.

[1]
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Guidelines_and_Best_Practices

As some of us are getting older:
An 8pt font isn't really good to read for "old" men who don't want to
wear glasses ;-). You should use 11pt. And so you won't get so much text
but good information.
If you need the whole text you should not make a trifolder with letter
size but a short handout or bigger size.

> What about licensing, is that ok?

I'm not familiar with licensing but why don't you use the 3.0 [2]?

[2] http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/


As I said: only my 0,2cts.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Brazilian LibreOffice Magazine released

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Hi Eliane,
Am 13.02.2013 11:24, schrieb Eliane Domingos de Sousa:
> Dear Community,
> 
> I'm proud to announce the third release of Brazilian LibreOffice
> Magazine. 

It looks great.

Some comments from me:
The whole magazine has only right pages. When I will print it as a
magazine it has wrong pages on the left site.

I have some bad feelings about the using of some pictures because of
licenses. Do we have the right to use all the pictures in a printing?
I don't know if it is an important point but I wouldn't use screenshots
with personas like the known prehistoric squirrel (page 12) or the
hearty dog (page 17) because of licenses. We should use only pictures
with an open license.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice "Documentation in Local Libraries Project"

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Hi Marc, Jean,
Am 06.02.2013 09:45, schrieb Marc Paré:

[...]
> (For example, my school board operates 51 libraries, some small/others
> quite large, sample texts arrive weekly to the libraries and most often
> are not put on the stacks but are either left on a shelf for later
> disposal or distributed to teachers who think may use them, BUT only
> after being vetted by the head librarian to make sure the texts follow
> school board teaching philosophies and programme expectations. If the
> texts do not follow programme expectations, then they are not accepted
> for library use. In our case, the LibreOffice guides fit in well but
> still must go through internal vetting approval process. The more
> well-known are guides the shorter the vetting process.)

In Germany many libraries start now to offer e-books. And I think many
in Canada/Australia and all over the world do this.
Why don't you try to get our e-books (epub/pdf) first in the libraries?
No expenses. When we will get in such a library then the question about
written books will come from the users.

Ok, there is for now only one epub for Getting started 3.3 [1] but this
may be an Easy Hack for documentation list doing it especially with 4.0.
And all books are available as pdf.

[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing "Easy Tasks" list

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Hi Marc, all,
Am 03.02.2013 12:43, schrieb Marc Paré:
> I would like to start a wiki page of "To-do" items similar to the devs
> "Easy Hack" page. This page would have tasks that any newcomer to the
> marketing team could lend at hand at contributing.
> 
> The dev name for this section is "Easy hacks", I am proposing to call
> this the "Marketing Easy Task" list.
> 
> Anyone else with a good suggestion of a name other than "Easy Task" for
> this particular page? Should I go ahead and just name it that?

Some ideas from our wiki (not about the name but the design for the work
flow):
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Nik#Proposed_rearrange_of_Design_Work_items

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Whiteboard_Template

At least:
Do it a little bit with colour and icons and it will look more appetizing.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: TDF logo on personas

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Hi Marc, all,
Am 03.02.2013 13:21, schrieb Marc Paré:

What's the problem to get a TDF-persona with the LibO-logo?

I made one:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Persona_header_k-j.jpg

Make a folder in LibO 4.0 program path called "edition". Copy in the
file (3000x200px as jpg, e.g. mine above), rename it to header.jpg
(otherwise it won't work) and switch on the "default persona" option.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing Call TODAY

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Hi Charles, Marc and Thorsten,
Am 26.01.2013 18:12, schrieb Charles-H. Schulz:

Hi,

Here are the short Action Items for this call.


[...]


* Release Slogan to be worked on in a private committee for PR reasons



Some obvious questions:

Is the committee private for PR reasons or is the slogan for PR reasons?

And: why should it be a private committee if we as marketing team want 
to force the community.


And: Who are the members of this committee?

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Strategy was: Out of town till late next Tuesday

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Am 18.12.2012 23:34, schrieb Jean Weber:



He contacted Docs last week. I had a few initial comments on the covers but was 
hoping someone else in Docs would say something too. So far, no response. I'll 
nudge the docs list.

I would like to have the source file for the docs covers and interiors so I can 
play around with them a bit myself and perhaps offer some slight modifications 
for consideration.


https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO4_Cover_prop_k-j.svg
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO4_Back_prop_k-j.svg
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO4_Chapter_prop_k-j.svg


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[libreoffice-marketing] Strategy was: Out of town till late next Tuesday

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Hi all,

Am 18.12.2012 13:38, schrieb Charles-H. Schulz:

Le mardi 18 décembre 2012 à 07:26 -0500, Marc Paré a écrit :


[...]


Is this the new line of thinking we are to adopt?


Yes, that's the general idea; that's the strategy. Tactics do include
product pages of course but no classical SWOTs and segmentation
analysis. So yes, the new line of thinking is not about the product but
about the community, and how, process wise, the marketing team should
act as an information broker inside the project and outside it.



As a first personal concept for 4.0 I made a new line of 
buttons/documentation covers:


http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts/Concept-GIn#Concept_.22Get_involved.21.22

Maybe this can be part of the strategy and for marketing for 4.0.

The first "official" banner was used for the Test Marathon 4.0:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Test_Marathon_LibreOffice_4.0

We can put this slogan to LibreOffice 4.0 (Start Center, About, etc.), 
so "Get involved!" will be part of LibO 4.0. I want to make some 
proposals for this, but lack of time bar me from doing it. Maybe next 
weekend if there is some interest.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Donation button problem on front page

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Am 08.11.2012 13:30, schrieb Florian Effenberger:

Hi Marc,

Marc Paré wrote on 2012-11-07 20:42:

The following bug has been open for far too long and needs to be
addressed. As this is more of a marketing issue, could we all look at it
and decide on the change. I will then make arrangements for the change
or do the change myself.

Could we come to a decision soon as it shows on our front page and IMO
does not leave visitors with a good impression?


thanks a lot for keeping that in mind!
My proposal is to use "Help us develop and grow LibreOffice with your
generous donations"


... and to see the difference to "Consider donating to LibreOffice 
development, infrastructure and ..." :


http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts/Design#Spenden_Sie.21


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Donation button problem on front page

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Am 08.11.2012 13:30, schrieb Florian Effenberger:

Hi Marc,

Marc Paré wrote on 2012-11-07 20:42:

The following bug has been open for far too long and needs to be
addressed. As this is more of a marketing issue, could we all look at it
and decide on the change. I will then make arrangements for the change
or do the change myself.

Could we come to a decision soon as it shows on our front page and IMO
does not leave visitors with a good impression?


thanks a lot for keeping that in mind!
My proposal is to use "Help us develop and grow LibreOffice with your
generous donations"


It will looks like:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibOWebsiteBanners_Donate_en1.png


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: ideas for campaigns

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Am 05.11.2012 11:44, schrieb Charles-H. Schulz:



Thanks for passing this around. So essentially this is a call to design
web buttons and banners for our future and present(?) donation
campaigns. Interested people please upload your designs on our wiki in
the design section.


As Marc mentioned the discussions, here are some wiki links:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/External_web_banners

Rather outdated:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Visual_Elements

Always an inspiration:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Nik

And:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:See#Banners_:_Spread_the_word

Some of mine (not as good as from the profs above):
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts/Design#Several_Banners
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] creating a team for the LibreOffice features page

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Hi Charles, Italo,
Am 24.10.2012 15:12, schrieb Italo Vignoli:

Il 24/10/2012 15:10, Charles-H. Schulz ha scritto:


Yup; but what I think this entails is to pretty much slash half of the
page (the marketing work items page), add some easy tasks that are not
there and rework some of the existing tasks. I can do that with you.


Of course, much of the page has proven to be useless as it is. We should
rework it entirely, starting almost from scratch (although I would leave
some higher level tasks, just to provide a path forward). We should be
able to get to a first version of a new page by the end of October, as I
would like to announce it more formally.


Just a hint:
The Design team has made some categories for their work [1]:
- Analyses
- Whiteboard
- Playground

Maybe you can take these categories (and the pictures) for a first 
proposal. There is a Whiteboard proposal [2] with some visuality too.



[1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design
[2] 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Whiteboard_Template


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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-website] improving our donation button

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Hi all,
Am 23.09.2012 18:59, schrieb Florian Effenberger:

[...]


My drawing (handmade ;-) is available at

 http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/3022/f9wqeazc_jpg.htm

and I'd like to hear your opinion. My take is to focus on simplicity, to
encourage people to donate, but maybe my approach is wrong.


Ok,
I made some first proposals for this:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts/Design#Buttons
The small button can be used on external pages, social web or so.

I don't know if the chosen sizes are ok or even if the third button can 
be used in a technical and useful way. Some experiences especially with 
the radiobuttons?


Maybe we can wait with the discussion until LibOConf 2012 in Berlin. 
Florian has to do many things before that.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Photo Shuffler on Donation page -- need more photos

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Hi Marc, Christian, *,
Am 26.09.2012 15:13, schrieb Marc Paré:


Thanks for the gorgeous photos. I have put 10 of them on the shuffler.
Have a peek[1]. Let me know if there are any problems with the photos.
Note: The BR photos come up on the rotation after the first 10 photos.


There is no rotation on the German donation page [1].
Even there is no way to add some Image resources if I click on the Photo 
Shuffler when having the German page "Start" in work.



[1] https://donate.libreoffice.org/de/

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] You never know who you forgot to tell . . .

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Hi Tim,
Am 17.08.2012 00:41, schrieb webmaster-Kracked_P_P:

[...]

Sounds like a spamming advertisement.
What do you want to tell?
Do you need a libo-business card? A design for it?
Is it a motivation mail?


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] 3.6 Features page check

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Hi Marc,

Am 30.07.2012 21:00, schrieb Marc Paré:

[...]


Let me know if it needs more tweaking or editing.


I made two little, little changes, not worth to mention, and change  the 
new SplashScreen [1] because the version of 3.6.0.1 didn't follow our 
own branding.
[1] 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/1/15/LibreOffice_3.6.0.3_Splash_Screen.png




Could someone also check using IE9.0?


Looks nice.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fwd: Feature comparison: LibreOffice - Microsoft Office in the Wiki

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Hi Tom,
Am 25.07.2012 22:31, schrieb Tom Davies:

Hi :)
Did anyone manage to add these links?


Please have a look at:
http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/msg05648.html


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fwd: Feature comparison: LibreOffice - Microsoft Office in the Wiki

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Hi all,
Am 15.07.2012 20:31, schrieb Jean Weber:

Let's link to this from the Docs/Pubs page on the wiki. Someone? Thanks!


Made a link in FAQs [1] and in Publications [2].

[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq#Functionality
[2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#Everyone


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From: Gerry T. 
Date: 2012/7/15
Subject: Feature comparison: LibreOffice - Microsoft Office in the Wiki
To: libreoffice-dev 

please find a first draft of a comprehensive feature comparison between
LibreOffice 3.6 and Microsoft Office 2010 in the Documentfoundation wiki:
https://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/**Feature_Comparison:_**
LibreOffice_-_Microsoft_Office


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Away for the next 5-6 days

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Hi Marc,
Am 06.07.2012 12:04, schrieb Marc Paré:

I will be away for the next 6-7 days with no access to the internet. I
am off on a short fishing/camping trip with my boys (and also testing my
ability to travel for the first time in 3 years after my surgeries for
crushed spine).


Have a good holiday, good weather and much fun with your boys.

Has someone else access to the Google calendar (if it should be necessary)?


There is no electricity where I am going.


Good way to relax. ;-)


Have a great weekend and I will talk to you next Tuesday or Wednesday.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Events Calendar and FAQ page

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Hi Marc,
Am 16.05.2012 18:33, schrieb Marc Paré:

HI KJ

You should NOT use the Google Provider for this calendar, there is no
need for it when creating "public ical calendars"; just use the
"iCalendar (ICS)" (make sure that it is picked) on the second frame when
creating a new calendar and use the same address, it should work.


That's it, works. Thanks.
I took "Google calendar" and that didn't work.
Reading right would help.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Events Calendar and FAQ page

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Hi Marc,
Am 16.05.2012 15:42, schrieb Marc Paré:

[...]


I have a question for point 5:

I have tried to put the calendar in my own thunderbird calendar but he
asks me for a password for libreoff...@parentreprise.com.


Yup, it looks like "Google public calendar" doesn't need the "Provider
for Google Calendar". Sorry I should have checked; I just assumed it
would work the same way as it does for all of my private calendars.

Here are the steps to get it to post a "Google Public Calendar":

After installing the Lightning extension (restart your Thunderbird):


I already have some calendars (one of them is a Google calendar) in my 
Thunderbird 12.0.1 with Lightning 1.4 and the Addon "Provider for Google 
Calendar 0.13". My Google calendars works fine.


[...]


* pick iCalendar (ICS) and insert the LibreOffice iCal address in the
field next to "Location") then press "Next"


I took this address:
https://www.google.com/calendar/ical/libreoffice%40parEntreprise.com/public/basic.ics


* name your calendar (presumably you would want to call it LibreOffice
Events); pick the colour of the calendar of you choice; "Show Reminders"
and E-mail is up to you. Press "Next" and "End"
* Your new "LibreOffice Events" calendar should now show in the left
hand side.


Yes, the calendar is there but not active because of the lack of password.


NOTE:
* To change any of the calendar's properties, just right-click on the
calendar name on the left-hand side and choose "Properties". Also note
that you cannot Add or Delete any events unless you have Admin rights
*If you have Admin rights to the "LibreOffice Events Calendar", then you
would have to use the "Provider for Google Calendar" option when
creating your Thunderbird-Lightning calendar and you will to add the
email/password to access the calendar.


Maybe it is a problem with the "Provider". I need because of my other 
Google calendar.



Let me know if this does not work.


It does not work here.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Events Calendar and FAQ page

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Hi Marc,
Am 16.05.2012 03:30, schrieb Marc Paré:


Oops! Links are:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/EventsCalendar (I've left a link to
the FAQ on the bottom of that page.)

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/EventsCalendar/EventsCalendarFAQ


Thanks for the FAQs.

I have a question for point 5:

I have tried to put the calendar in my own thunderbird calendar but he 
asks me for a password for libreoff...@parentreprise.com.




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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Download buttons

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Hi Drew, *,

Am 12.04.2012 18:02, schrieb drew jensen:

Hi Florian,

Nice banner.


[...]


If we (I'd start it) just set up a wiki page to do this, with there be
any objections at this point?


Do you mean a wiki page for collecting external web banners?

Have a look here:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/External_web_banners


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Getting Started 3.4 full book published

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Hi Jean, *,
Am 31.03.2012 02:11, schrieb Jean Weber:


We've been talking about two possibilities, each of them involving
*not* attempting to update everything for each release.
1) Only update chapters where significant changes are required (UI
looks very different; major new features; corrections to errors). In
most cases, most chapters need only trivial, or no, changes to keep
them current, although the writing in some of them can still be
improved.
2) Combined with 1), only attempt to release a new version of each
book once a year.


What do you think about taking the version 3.3 (or 3.4) as base 
document, no change of the content, and put in an own heading at the end 
of the chapter called "new in version 3.5". There will be a list or some 
descriptions of the changes. Only this piece must be written and be 
proofread. The front page will tell "Version 3.3 with explanations for 
3.5" or so.

We can also take these headings and make an own chapter for it.
With 3.6 there is then a next heading (or chapter).

So there is no need for reviewing the existing content and we can take 
the available wiki pages and informations.


Only if there are important changes or we find the persons to work on 
the whole book, we change the content and the screenshots.


The big work will then be with 4.0.


But the main problem is that, although we have many people who say
they are willing to do proofreading (copy-editing), that's not much
help unless there are enough people who (a) know how to review the
content for accuracy; (b) can use existing info (such as the list of
new features) to know what to look for and incorporate changes when
needed; and (c) have the time to do the updating and writing, to get
things to the point where copy-editing (proofreading) is useful.


Maybe we try my proposal with the Calc Guide, make a wiki page with:
"What are the changes in Calc from 3.3 to 3.4 to 3.5", take in the 
structure of the Calc Guide and the informations we find in the wiki.


On a wiki page some more people can work with.

I'm ccing the document ml to get their opinions. At least we should take 
the whole discussion to that ml?!


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] is there a file for this poster?

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Hi Drew, *,
Am 15.03.2012 04:52, schrieb drew jensen:

On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 19:05 -0400, drew jensen wrote:





http://lo-portal.us/temp/2012-poster-after-cut.png

So that's it, if anyone wants to use it please do. If you would like
something changed, just ask..and if you could care less, no big deal.


Some thoughts (no critic):
- Do we need three website addresses on a poster? Only a very few people 
will look immediately on the website after looking at the poster.


- Maybe we (you) can make it some more like your cover for documentation 
[1]. Have you tried to make the green bar smaller and take the icons on 
the top of it?


- Whom do we want to address with this poster?
 Do we only want to address the people who will download or also that 
people who can/must get involved? There is no information about 
community's work and "Get involved" (except the link).


- To get more space on the top we can try to put the logo in between the 
Motif like you can see it here [2]. (These are proposals for a roll-up 
(850mmx2000mm) for the CEBIT 2012.)



[1] 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO_Cover_gettingStarted_ice_castle.png

[2] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts#slogan


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Mailing list statistics for 2012-02-16

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Hi Florian, *,
Am 16.02.2012 18:05, schrieb Florian Effenberger:

IMHO, that's about 1,5k more subscribers since January

Florian Effenberger wrote on 2012-02-16 18:04:

All lists 14939 609 681 16229




Is it possible (even for the future) to see how many people have 
unsubscribed themselves from the lists, so we can estimate the wrong 
subscribers?


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[libreoffice-marketing] [UX] Content for a Paper case for the LibOx

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Hi all,
maybe you have noticed that some times ago Nik showed a fine proposal 
for a LibOx-paper case [1] [2].

He also wrote:
"I haven't put real content in my Design because I wanted to give 
Marketing and UX a chance to work out what they think would be best, 
that and localisation issues."


Daniel Steyer and me are working on this subject. We made the 
instructions as odt and pdf in Englisch and German.


Nik mentioned two passages (each max. 10 lines) with content: 
"Installation" (about 480 characters) and "Feature" (about 600 characters).

And now we need this content. Maybe we can also put other information on it.

Do you have any decisions or proposals?
I made a wiki page for this:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Paper_case_for_LibOx#Need_for_content

[1] http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg02686.html
[2] http://liberated.nikashsingh.org/html/papercase.html

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