Re: [libreoffice-marketing] is there a file for this poster?

2012-03-17 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Simon, *,

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
 On 15 Mar 2012, at 13:24, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

 I'd love to see an (artistic) QR-Code that features the paperclip logo
 as part of the code...
 (or failing having an artistic version, a plain one...)

 I made this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1792694/lo_qr_code.gif

Yay - this is what I had in mind - decodes well with SnapmazeReader
and Kaywa Reader

(points directly to libreoffice.org/download though - not sure whether
it would be better to point to the www.libreoffice.org main page)

Now we need sure to also add it to the wiki  have it added to printed
material :-))

ciao
Christian
I also love the way how anonymous HH did incorporate the mask into the
actual dotgrid:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_7WQdvAZwd4/TxC77CJlYRI/CLs/z7i76j3CvWo/s1600/1756_e70d.jpeg

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] is there a file for this poster?

2012-03-17 Thread drew jensen
On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 14:10 +0100, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 Hi Drew, *,
 
 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:13 PM, drew jensen
 drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 13:23 -0700, Craig Olofson wrote:
  [...]
  Jogged the memory also - did something with QR-Code (hmm, not sure who
  actually generated the code bit..)
 
 There are quite a few web-based QR-Code generators out there. Some@Jinbai - 
 you should likely subscribe to the odfAuthors mailing list and talk with 
 those folks directly.

 offer only the free text generation, others allow you to switch to a
 specific information type.
 http://zxing.appspot.com/generator/ or
 http://www.qrdvark.com/qr-generator/ have corresponding selections
 
  Thinking might be worth it to take the design you did for the code and
  re-craft a new general use, fund raising oriented perhaps, 2012 flyer,
  or even a campaign (flyer (for print), video, presentation page for
  members to use as lead/trailer when giving talks (though I have no real
  knowledge that works...I suppose it does) all with a common look.
 
  What do you think?
 
 Not limited to the fund raising topic, 

Absolutely.

It was the subject of last years piece however, and I thought might be
of most interest to Simon, and so my example.

 but of course creating
 dedicated landing pages (that then are stable (i.e. URLs that will
 redirect to whatever page is currently in use for that topic) like the
 already existing http://hub.libreoffice.org/file-a-bug could of course
 be setup as well, hub.libreoffice.org/donate or
 hub.libreoffice.org/fundraiser ,

yup - I get the idea that a level of indirection in the URL adds
flexibility

 
 So when you have a reusable idea (one where it is beneficial to have
 a long lasting, stable URL that might point to different pages over
 time), feel free to ask to have such a redirection setup.

...though, I'm not quite sure I agree that it matters more for a
published URL represented by a glyph used for machine scanning over one
represented by human readable text.

At the end of the day, typed or scanned, the URL either landed somewhere
usable or not. Which is to say, it is the type of media that adds the
additional need for long term stability to the URL IMO, hard copy
printing, and perhaps even video, being such media.

So I think we actually agree :), that I and others, should take extra
caution when choosing URL's, of any type, for printed materials. 
Also, maybe I'm pointing out a difference without much of a distinction.

Anyway - I do like the specific glyph Simon produced and the general
idea, for sure, definitely thinking we ought to incorporate such in a
variety of artifacts.

Best wishes,

//drew

ps - Seems like the hub.libreoffice.org/donate is a good idea - but
best I suppose to discuss that in a different thread?





 
 ciao
 Christian
 



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] is there a file for this poster?

2012-03-17 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Drew, *,

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 3:45 PM, drew jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 14:10 +0100, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 [hub.libreoffice.org stable redirector URLs]
 So when you have a reusable idea (one where it is beneficial to have
 a long lasting, stable URL that might point to different pages over
 time), feel free to ask to have such a redirection setup.

 ...though, I'm not quite sure I agree that it matters more for a
 published URL represented by a glyph used for machine scanning over one
 represented by human readable text.

Oh, didn't want to imply that it was - rather than whenever you need a
URL that still should point to something useful in two or more years.
When the link is put into some real world stuff that you cannot
change afterwards (like a released version of LibreOffice - you cannot
change LO that was already installed by the user, and you cannot
change printed copies of flyers or books)

 At the end of the day, typed or scanned, the URL either landed somewhere
 usable or not. Which is to say, it is the type of media that adds the
 additional need for long term stability to the URL IMO, hard copy
 printing, and perhaps even video, being such media.

Exactly. I don't know where you got the idea that I'd think it matters
more for QR-Codes, but I'm glad that you share my actual point :-)

 So I think we actually agree :), that I and others, should take extra
 caution when choosing URL's, of any type, for printed materials.

Yes :-)

 Anyway - I do like the specific glyph Simon produced and the general
 idea, for sure, definitely thinking we ought to incorporate such in a
 variety of artifacts.

Yes, I'd love to see a QR-Code on every LO booth - some might say
Welcome dear visitor, thanks for taking time to scan this code, what
about talking to our staff - when you say codeword you'll get a
cookie :-D

 ps - Seems like the hub.libreoffice.org/donate is a good idea - but
 best I suppose to discuss that in a different thread?

Yes, please :-) you can then use it like
hub.libreoffice.org/donate?event=whatever or similar to make use of it
for specific campaigns/events.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] is there a file for this poster?

2012-03-16 Thread Craig Olofson
Good question.

First off, I really like the QR's design.  From color to insertion of
graphic: distinctive and still functional.  Tip of the hat.  But...

This particular QR points to the download page of LO.  Maybe I'm alone in
this but:

   1. I've always, only scanned a QR w/my mobile device
   2. The only software downloads via QR were specific to the mobile device

Expectation is pretty important wrt QR's.  Based on that, for QR's I
generate, I've taken to:

   - Adding one-line captions alerting where the QR leads
   - The QR's always lead to mobile-appropriate urls (which must add value
   - not teasers)

I can see fringe cases where scanning the download linky to my mobile might
be advantageous.  Otherwise, I'm missing something.

All that aside, Simon, thanks again for showing an aesthetically
distinctive  appealing QR code.  No small trick!  ;-)

-Craig

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:08 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions 
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:


 What can we do with it, really?
 I do not think my smart phone can deal with these things.  I use a LG-500
 prepaid with limited online abilities.

 I never really know what such a icon is used for.  Some demos tell you
 to take a picture of the icon and it will go to a screen showing you where
 the item is in the store.  Another demo commercial had you take a picture
 of the icon and you bought the item and you just had to type in your card
 number and billing/shipping address.

 SO what would LO user do with the icon?
 Or is it just a cute graphic?


 On 03/16/2012 03:32 PM, Simon Phipps wrote:

 On 15 Mar 2012, at 13:24, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

 I'd love to see an (artistic) QR-Code that features the paperclip logo
 as part of the code...
 (or failing having an artistic version, a plain one...)

 I made this: 
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/**1792694/lo_qr_code.gifhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/1792694/lo_qr_code.gif
 here: 
 http://beqrious.com/qr-code-**generator/http://beqrious.com/qr-code-generator/

 S.




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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] is there a file for this poster?

2012-03-16 Thread drew jensen
On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 13:23 -0700, Craig Olofson wrote:
 Good question.
 
 First off, I really like the QR's design.  From color to insertion of
 graphic: distinctive and still functional.  Tip of the hat.  But...
 
 This particular QR points to the download page of LO.  Maybe I'm alone in
 this but:
 
1. I've always, only scanned a QR w/my mobile device
2. The only software downloads via QR were specific to the mobile device
 
 Expectation is pretty important wrt QR's.  Based on that, for QR's I
 generate, I've taken to:
 
- Adding one-line captions alerting where the QR leads
- The QR's always lead to mobile-appropriate urls (which must add value
- not teasers)
 
 I can see fringe cases where scanning the download linky to my mobile might
 be advantageous.  Otherwise, I'm missing something.
 
 All that aside, Simon, thanks again for showing an aesthetically
 distinctive  appealing QR code.  No small trick!  ;-)
 
 -Craig
 
 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:08 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions 
 webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:
 
 
  What can we do with it, really?
  I do not think my smart phone can deal with these things.  I use a LG-500
  prepaid with limited online abilities.
 
  I never really know what such a icon is used for.  Some demos tell you
  to take a picture of the icon and it will go to a screen showing you where
  the item is in the store.  Another demo commercial had you take a picture
  of the icon and you bought the item and you just had to type in your card
  number and billing/shipping address.
 
  SO what would LO user do with the icon?
  Or is it just a cute graphic?
 
 
  On 03/16/2012 03:32 PM, Simon Phipps wrote:
 
  On 15 Mar 2012, at 13:24, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 
  I'd love to see an (artistic) QR-Code that features the paperclip logo
  as part of the code...
  (or failing having an artistic version, a plain one...)
 
  I made this: 
  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/**1792694/lo_qr_code.gifhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/1792694/lo_qr_code.gif
  here: 
  http://beqrious.com/qr-code-**generator/http://beqrious.com/qr-code-generator/
 

Howdy S.

Excellent - I like the icon in the center.

Jogged the memory also - did something with QR-Code (hmm, not sure who
actually generated the code bit..) as part of a flyer layout last year:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Libo-challenge-en.pdf


Thinking might be worth it to take the design you did for the code and
re-craft a new general use, fund raising oriented perhaps, 2012 flyer,
or even a campaign (flyer (for print), video, presentation page for
members to use as lead/trailer when giving talks (though I have no real
knowledge that works...I suppose it does) all with a common look.

What do you think?

Best wishes,

//drew


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] is there a file for this poster?

2012-03-15 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Drew, *,

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 4:52 AM, drew jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 19:05 -0400, drew jensen wrote:
 On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 18:54 -0400, drew jensen wrote:
 [...]
 http://lo-portal.us/temp/2012-poster-after-cut.png

Nice - motif looks much better than the green framing in my opinion.

The right part looks a bit squeezed to the right, putting it a little
to the left would be more balanced.

Not sure whether I like http://libreoffice.org or whether
www.libreoffice.org would be better

The mime-icons also look a little awkward - I guess I'd prefer them to
show the whole document-icon, not the image part of it and give it
more whitespace or at least some blending or embossing effect.

 So that's it, if anyone wants to use it please do. If you would like
 something changed, just ask..and if you could care less, no big deal.

I'd love to see an (artistic) QR-Code that features the paperclip logo
as part of the code...
(or failing having an artistic version, a plain one...)

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-marketing] is there a file for this poster?

2012-03-14 Thread Tim Lungstrom



Is there any place where we could get copy of this type of poster, shown 
in the image listed in the below link?


http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/thumb/1/11/Grazer_Linuxtage_2011_001.jpg/400px-Grazer_Linuxtage_2011_001.jpg

I was thinking that it looks great, and would be nice to have something 
like this for the English fests coming up this year.


Having it in English, instead of needing to take the SVG file and 
editing it, would be helpful.


We need as many marketing posters and stuff as possible for the North 
American shows ands fests.




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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] is there a file for this poster?

2012-03-14 Thread drew jensen
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 10:24 -0400, Tim Lungstrom wrote:
 
 Is there any place where we could get copy of this type of poster, shown 
 in the image listed in the below link?

Likely not - well, of course there could be, but likely not that you
will ever get your hands on.

If you really like though, it could be reproduced in English and using
FOSS tools, in an standard format, and shared with the full community.

Shall we?

//drew

 
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/thumb/1/11/Grazer_Linuxtage_2011_001.jpg/400px-Grazer_Linuxtage_2011_001.jpg
 
 I was thinking that it looks great, and would be nice to have something 
 like this for the English fests coming up this year.
 
 Having it in English, instead of needing to take the SVG file and 
 editing it, would be helpful.
 
 We need as many marketing posters and stuff as possible for the North 
 American shows ands fests.
 
 
 



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] is there a file for this poster?

2012-03-14 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I was thinking that since it was a LO poster for a LO table fest, it 
would be nice if the file used to create the poster would be shared.


I have no trouble creating a poster for things I am dealing with, but 
there are some North American events coming soon, with April 28-29 being 
the LinuxFest Northwest 2012.  I bet they could use as many marketing 
poster ideas as we can provide them.


I know that locally the 6 foot by 30 inch LibreOffice banner cost 
about $75, and the one shown in the linked photo would be about half 
that [hopefully].


I know the price of that 6 foot banner since I am working on a design 
for a local organization and we were quoted that if we provide the PDF file.


It would be nice to share the files [in standard formats] so every 
region that has these shows where LO could get a booth/table, can have 
similar materials, posters, banners, etc., for their use.


I have asked on the website list about how to get a 3.4.5 DVD label 
design shown there.  I think if the designers of the labels, brochures, 
fliers, posters, banners, and other marketing items shared their 
creations, we would have a large marketing resource.


I would really like to see a tri-fold brochure, or flier, that was 
geared towards the school and university students.  Get them while they 
are young.  Get schools to look at LO as an alternative to buying MSO 
for all their systems.  Give the parents an option instead of buying MSO 
for their kid's laptops when they send them on to the colleges and 
universities.


The more marketing materials we have to access locally, the better we 
can be.


Yes Drew,
I most likely could make a version of the poster in the photo, if I 
could read the text and use some translation package to see what it 
saids, but it would be better to just download it from our marketing pages.


On 03/14/2012 02:27 PM, drew jensen wrote:

On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 10:24 -0400, Tim Lungstrom wrote:

Is there any place where we could get copy of this type of poster, shown
in the image listed in the below link?

Likely not - well, of course there could be, but likely not that you
will ever get your hands on.

If you really like though, it could be reproduced in English and using
FOSS tools, in an standard format, and shared with the full community.

Shall we?

//drew


http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/thumb/1/11/Grazer_Linuxtage_2011_001.jpg/400px-Grazer_Linuxtage_2011_001.jpg

I was thinking that it looks great, and would be nice to have something
like this for the English fests coming up this year.

Having it in English, instead of needing to take the SVG file and
editing it, would be helpful.

We need as many marketing posters and stuff as possible for the North
American shows ands fests.









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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] is there a file for this poster?

2012-03-14 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Thanks
I did not see it before.

Now I just have to translate it.

On 03/14/2012 03:32 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Hi *,
cc to the german list as it is about a german poster...

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Tim Lungstromtimo...@lungstrom.com  wrote:


Is there any place where we could get copy of this type of poster, shown in
the image listed in the below link?

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/thumb/1/11/Grazer_Linuxtage_2011_001.jpg/400px-Grazer_Linuxtage_2011_001.jpg

The poster can be found here
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Posters (page is pretty
empty, people apparently don't know this place and don't add the
created posters there - too bad...)

Probably Thomas Krumbein, who usually finalizes the proposals for
professional printing still has the source around/knows where to look
for it - Not sure whether there is a svg source or just the Adobe
inDesign stuff..


Having it in English, instead of needing to take the SVG file and editing
it, would be helpful.

Not aware of a english version of that poster yet.
But then again that poster is not that catchy to begin with/I wouldn't
use the same green background/framing now that we got the motiv-images
that look much nicer  modern.

ciao
Christian




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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] is there a file for this poster?

2012-03-14 Thread drew jensen
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 21:23 +, Simon Phipps wrote:
 On 14 Mar 2012, at 19:32, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 
  The poster can be found here
  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Posters 
 
 I get a File Not Found error for the poster - looks like the URL is wrong.
 
 S.
 

Try this instead

http://www.frodev.org/images/downloads/LibO/lo-plakat_2010-01-25a.pdf





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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] is there a file for this poster?

2012-03-14 Thread Simon Phipps

On 14 Mar 2012, at 21:25, drew jensen wrote:

 On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 21:23 +, Simon Phipps wrote:
 On 14 Mar 2012, at 19:32, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 
 The poster can be found here
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Posters 
 
 I get a File Not Found error for the poster - looks like the URL is wrong.
 
 S.
 
 
 Try this instead
 
 http://www.frodev.org/images/downloads/LibO/lo-plakat_2010-01-25a.pdf
 

Die Seite existiert leider nicht…

and then a link to
http://www.frodev.org/downloads/LibreOffice/lo-plakat_2010-01-25a.pdf/view

which just displays a directory listing.

S.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] is there a file for this poster?

2012-03-14 Thread Simon Phipps

On 14 Mar 2012, at 21:25, drew jensen wrote:

 On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 21:23 +, Simon Phipps wrote:
 On 14 Mar 2012, at 19:32, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 
 The poster can be found here
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Posters 
 
 I get a File Not Found error for the poster - looks like the URL is wrong.
 
 S.
 
 
 Try this instead
 
 http://www.frodev.org/images/downloads/LibO/lo-plakat_2010-01-25a.pdf
 

I went away  left the machine, and when I came back another area had been 
rewritten on the page with a download link, so I now have the PDF - thanks. It 
doesn't appear to be a hybrid PDF though, so I've no source; do we know where 
it is?

Thanks

S.
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] is there a file for this poster?

2012-03-14 Thread drew jensen
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 18:54 -0400, drew jensen wrote:
 On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 23:20 +0100, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
  Hi Simon, *,
  
  On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
   On 14 Mar 2012, at 21:25, drew jensen wrote:
  
   and then a link to
   http://www.frodev.org/downloads/LibreOffice/lo-plakat_2010-01-25a.pdf/view
  
   which just displays a directory listing.
  
  so close - but missed the goal, see
  http://frupic.frubar.net/fullsize/24541
  
  ciao
  Christian
  
 
 And here is my first take on a variant...
 
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/6/6a/2012-poster-36x24.png
 
 The file is actually sized at 62.2cm by 92.7cm which is the full bleed
 size for a cut down to 24 x 36 inches at Vistaprint or Staples print
 centers.
 
 The (inkscape) svg file is at:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:2012-poster-36x24.svg
 
 So, if folks have any suggestions or want to re-work that yourself
 please do and just upload right over top if you feel like it..
 
 Best wishes,
 
 //drew
 

and of course _after_ I uploaded - now I see the two typos...but it is a
draft anyway... so I'll hold off for any comments before fixing.

TTFN


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