Re: F20 Alpha announcement release notes
Otherwise I think it looks good, thanks a lot. Formatting for email is still needed, Robyn usually does it. Yup, I was going to show jzb how to do this while we were at linuxcon, but I can totally explain it to him today (it's pretty straightforward). Sorry, I wasn't able to attend yesterday's meeting as I expected - was formatted announcement handed out to nirik already? It probably makes sense sending it to the logistics list too as we discussed on the readiness meeting. /me will recheck Jaroslav Fedora_20_Alpha_release_notes already points to F20_Alpha_release_announcement. Thanks Jaroslav -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- docs mailing list d...@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/docs -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Expounding meeting minutes
Mitzie and myself could do the marketing meetings. I also am part of infrastructure so I could do a post on their meetings as well. Gabriele Trombini mai...@fedoraonline.it 09/24/13 8:10 AM Hi,as jzb said, it would be nice if someone could briefly expound the topics of the minutes of each Fedora meeting held in order to make understand to the people if they are interested (or not) without reading the logs.A sort of meeting recap.I took a look to the meeting minutes ML, and I see this:- QA- FAmNA- FESCo- ARM- EMEA- Infrastructure- Chinese- APAC- Docs- SIG- FAmSCo- Marketing- LATAM- FPC- Blocker Bugs- Board- Kernel- Fedora-Fr- IRC Support SIG- Release ReadinessMy thought is that, in the beginning, we should choose the relevant ones and do it by ourself. In this direction I could report EMEA and FAmSCo, because are the ones I follow.In the future we must involve more people but should choose how as well; we don't have to make people busier than they are now.Gabri-- marketing mailing listmarketing@lists.fedoraproject.orghttps://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Expounding meeting minutes
On Tue, 2013-09-24 at 14:10 +0200, Gabriele Trombini wrote: as jzb said, it would be nice if someone could briefly expound the topics of the minutes of each Fedora meeting held in order to make understand to the people if they are interested (or not) without reading the logs. Could you please provide a link to where this was discussed? I seem to have missed the mail :/ Aren't meeting minutes enough? They're concise and highlight any thing of importance in the meeting, assuming that the participants used their zodbot tools well. Could you give an example of what you intend, for example with the latest marketing team meeting logs? http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-23/fedora-meeting.2013-09-23-19.01.txt At the moment, I find minutes enough. A quick glance tells me what went on in the meeting and if I need to look at the detailed logs :) -- Thanks, Warm regards, Ankur (FranciscoD) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha Join Fedora! Come talk to us! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Join_SIG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Expounding meeting minutes
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 11:19:08PM +1000, Ankur Sinha wrote: Could you please provide a link to where this was discussed? I seem to have missed the mail :/ Aren't meeting minutes enough? They're concise and highlight any thing of importance in the meeting, assuming that the participants used their zodbot tools well. Generally, I get little out of looking at the meeting minutes. And I wouldn't assume every meeting makes good use of zodbot tools. Most people get more out of a narrative, especially when we're talking about a larger group than just Fedora contributors. Could you give an example of what you intend, for example with the latest marketing team meeting logs? http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-23/fedora-meeting.2013-09-23-19.01.txt At the moment, I find minutes enough. A quick glance tells me what went on in the meeting and if I need to look at the detailed logs :) -- Thanks, Warm regards, Ankur (FranciscoD) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha Join Fedora! Come talk to us! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Join_SIG -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Open Source and Standards, Red Hat j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Expounding meeting minutes
On 09/24/13 15:19, Ankur Sinha wrote: On Tue, 2013-09-24 at 14:10 +0200, Gabriele Trombini wrote: as jzb said, it would be nice if someone could briefly expound the topics of the minutes of each Fedora meeting held in order to make understand to the people if they are interested (or not) without reading the logs. Could you please provide a link to where this was discussed? I seem to have missed the mail :/ You have missed because wasn't into a mail, it happened yesterday in IRC #fedora-mktg, or the things said in IRC are not to be considered effective? If it so I didn't know and you could not consider this mail. :-D Aren't meeting minutes enough? They're concise and highlight any thing of importance in the meeting, assuming that the participants used their zodbot tools well. No, I don't think so. Could you give an example of what you intend, for example with the latest marketing team meeting logs? http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-23/fedora-meeting.2013-09-23-19.01.txt E.g. something like: people interested in the discussion about AP Style for the magazine can read the log or also in this meeting we also talked about the 10th anniversary. Indeed discussion in the meeting says more than a #action #link and so on. People without time spare want an overview before choose if read the complete log or not. Again it's the occasion to make attractive IRC meetings in order to get more people present. A FESCo meeting or a QA meeting doesn't need a better explaination for common users? How many people could understand easier explainations? At the moment, I find minutes enough. A quick glance tells me what went on in the meeting and if I need to look at the detailed logs :) Yes, that's for you and maybe :-) me, but for people who would get in touch with the project? Is it really understandable? This was only an idea. Gabri -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: F20 Alpha announcement release notes
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 07:43:46AM -0400, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: Sorry, I wasn't able to attend yesterday's meeting as I expected - was formatted announcement handed out to nirik already? It probably makes sense sending it to the logistics list too as we discussed on the readiness meeting. Argh, sorry. I sent the announcement to Kevin. Will send to Nirik and logistics list. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Open Source and Standards, Red Hat j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Expounding meeting minutes
On Tue, 2013-09-24 at 16:08 +0200, Gabriele Trombini wrote: On 09/24/13 15:19, Ankur Sinha wrote: On Tue, 2013-09-24 at 14:10 +0200, Gabriele Trombini wrote: as jzb said, it would be nice if someone could briefly expound the topics of the minutes of each Fedora meeting held in order to make understand to the people if they are interested (or not) without reading the logs. Could you please provide a link to where this was discussed? I seem to have missed the mail :/ You have missed because wasn't into a mail, it happened yesterday in IRC #fedora-mktg, or the things said in IRC are not to be considered effective? If it so I didn't know and you could not consider this mail. :-D Aren't meeting minutes enough? They're concise and highlight any thing of importance in the meeting, assuming that the participants used their zodbot tools well. No, I don't think so. Could you give an example of what you intend, for example with the latest marketing team meeting logs? http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-23/fedora-meeting.2013-09-23-19.01.txt E.g. something like: people interested in the discussion about AP Style for the magazine can read the log or also in this meeting we also talked about the 10th anniversary. Indeed discussion in the meeting says more than a #action #link and so on. People without time spare want an overview before choose if read the complete log or not. Again it's the occasion to make attractive IRC meetings in order to get more people present. A FESCo meeting or a QA meeting doesn't need a better explaination for common users? How many people could understand easier explainations? At the moment, I find minutes enough. A quick glance tells me what went on in the meeting and if I need to look at the detailed logs :) Yes, that's for you and maybe :-) me, but for people who would get in touch with the project? Is it really understandable? This was only an idea. Makes sense. I attend the APAC Ambassador meetings quite regularly, so I'll report in on those. It's difficult for me to attend other meetings, being in a Sydney timezone, but I'll report in on whatever else I can too. -- Thanks, Warm regards, Ankur (FranciscoD) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha Join Fedora! Come talk to us! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Join_SIG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Expounding meeting minutes
I like what JZB suggested, anyone can look at the logs and see the meeting, but I think adding a little summary then posting the links to the meeting notes gives the reader on the magazine the choice of: oh hey that looks really interesting I want to check out the notes, or nothing really exciting happened I will pass on the notes this time. Chris RobertsSent from Novell Groupwisehttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Chrisroberts -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: F20 Alpha announcement release notes
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:11:32 -0500 Joe Brockmeier j...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 07:43:46AM -0400, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: Sorry, I wasn't able to attend yesterday's meeting as I expected - was formatted announcement handed out to nirik already? It probably makes sense sending it to the logistics list too as we discussed on the readiness meeting. Argh, sorry. I sent the announcement to Kevin. Will send to Nirik and logistics list. FYI, Kevin == nirik :) More eyes the better on it, but I already sent it out, so any adjustments we should look at for Beta. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: F20 Alpha announcement release notes
- Original Message - From: Joe Brockmeier j...@redhat.com To: Fedora Marketing team marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: For participants of the Documentation Project d...@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:11:32 AM Subject: Re: F20 Alpha announcement release notes On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 07:43:46AM -0400, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: Sorry, I wasn't able to attend yesterday's meeting as I expected - was formatted announcement handed out to nirik already? It probably makes sense sending it to the logistics list too as we discussed on the readiness meeting. Argh, sorry. I sent the announcement to Kevin. Will send to Nirik and logistics list. Kevin == Nirik I totally spaced on teh logitics list discussion. Sorry. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Open Source and Standards, Red Hat j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Proposed Headline Style (Was Re: Standard Headlines for Fedora Magazine)
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 07:39:28PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 04:58:53PM -0500, Joe Brockmeier wrote: Can we agree on a standard and stick with it? I'd like to suggest AP Style or all caps. Thoughts, comments, flames, votes? AP Style! So, I actually mixed up AP Style with what I'm more familiar with. Let's call it Wired Magazine style. I'd like to propose we use a style similar to Wired.com. Examples: BlackBerry Agrees to Sell Itself for a Measly $5 Billion Here's How We'll Make Hardware Startups More Than Just a Fad How to Use Chrome for Quick, Deep Searches on Any Website What Pop Culture Will Look Like 300 Years From Now, According to Star Trek You can find more on this here: http://geekdad.hotwired.com/notes/Style_Guide (Note, I plan to borrow liberally from this for a Fedora style guide.) Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Open Source and Standards, Red Hat j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
RE: Putting up Alpha Announcement on the Magazine
Great jzb! I was about to write it myself this evening :) Zacharias --- Original Message --- From: Joe Brockmeier j...@redhat.com Sent: September 24, 2013 8:25 PM To: Fedora Marketing marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Putting up Alpha Announcement on the Magazine Hey all, I'm putting up a post about the Fedora 20 Alpha on Fedora Magazine. Just wanted to give a heads up. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Open Source and Standards, Red Hat j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Proposed Headline Style (Was Re: Standard Headlines for Fedora Magazine)
I agree with the mixed ap style Joe suggested.. I wouldn't go only with the first letter of the sentence cap-ed, because if the word 'Fedora' is somewhere in the middle(or any other word of such importance) it needs to be cap-ed. Also all caps will be tiring, as visitors won't be able to distinguish the important words in the headline. So again the Mixed Ap style would be great. :) Zacharias Mitzelos --- Original Message --- From: Gabriele Trombini mai...@fedoraonline.it Sent: September 24, 2013 7:55 PM To: Fedora Marketing team marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Proposed Headline Style (Was Re: Standard Headlines for Fedora Magazine) On 09/24/13 18:22, Joe Brockmeier wrote: On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 07:39:28PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 04:58:53PM -0500, Joe Brockmeier wrote: Can we agree on a standard and stick with it? I'd like to suggest AP Style or all caps. Thoughts, comments, flames, votes? AP Style! So, I actually mixed up AP Style with what I'm more familiar with. Let's call it Wired Magazine style. I'd like to propose we use a style similar to Wired.com. Examples: BlackBerry Agrees to Sell Itself for a Measly $5 Billion Here's How We'll Make Hardware Startups More Than Just a Fad How to Use Chrome for Quick, Deep Searches on Any Website What Pop Culture Will Look Like 300 Years From Now, According to Star Trek You can find more on this here: http://geekdad.hotwired.com/notes/Style_Guide (Note, I plan to borrow liberally from this for a Fedora style guide.) Best, jzb New York Times seems giving you reason [1], but I like caps only for the first letter: BlackBerry agrees to sell itself for a measly $5 billion Here's how we'll make hardware startups more than just a fad How to use chrome for quick, deep searches on any website What pop culture will look like 300 years from now, according to Star Trek Difference is that should be less confusing because you wrote: BlackBerry Agrees to Sell Itself for a Measly ... but maybe: BlackBerry Agrees To Sell Itself For A Measly If we don't read your link; and I'm not sure people wants read. Anyhow in the howto we should write the Wired Style rules also in the how to (or link the website) but this won't be immediate for the ones writing posts for the first time. We need something easier, without rules to learn. Just between us, I like very much Wired Magazine style. :-) Gabri [1] http://www.nytimes.com/ -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Posted On in Fedora Magazine Template
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 02:00:49PM -0400, Chris Roberts wrote: Joe, Tatica said she was going to look at the css to see if she can make it faster, this might be something she can fix while in there :) I will add her to the email - Awesome, thanks! Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Open Source and Standards, Red Hat j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
