[marketing] Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Marketing IRC Meeting

[Gabriele Trombini]

2017-10-02 16:59 GMT+02:00 Máirín Duffy :

>
>
>
> Cool, and sorry for the confusion. I've been trying to clean up the
> design team meetings in fedocal and noticed this and was trying to be
> helpful and failed :)
>
> ~m
>

No problem at all.
See you soon.

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[marketing] Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Marketing IRC Meeting

[Gabriele Trombini]

Hello Máirín
,
yes it will happen tomorrow, even if ususally (in the last months) has been
skipped many times.
Tomorrow I'll be there because the (last two) people in mktg have to
coordinate their tasks.

For any need, feel free to ping me in IRC or by mail also here.

Thanks.

Gabri

2017-10-02 15:26 GMT+02:00 Máirín Duffy :

> Ugh nm it's tommorrow :)
>
> On 10/02/2017 09:21 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > It seems this meeting didn't happen, should the fedocal entry be
> canceled?
> >
> > ~m
> >
> > On 10/02/2017 05:00 AM, jflo...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> You are kindly invited to the meeting:
> >>Marketing IRC Meeting on 2017-10-03 from 09:00:00 to 10:30:00
> US/Eastern
> >>At fedora-meet...@irc.freenode.net
> >>
> >> The meeting will be about:
> >> This meeting is for active members or interested participants in
> [Fedora Marketing](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing). At our
> meetings, we share announcements and review tickets for covering with the
> rest of our team.
> >>
> >> If you're looking to [become involved](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/
> Joining_the_Fedora_marketing_project) with Fedora Marketing, this is a
> great time to introduce yourself to the team and see what we're working on.
> >>
> >>
> >> Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/4434/
> >>
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[marketing] Re: F27 Beta release announcement placeholder on Magazine

[Gabriele Trombini]

2017-09-29 22:11 GMT+02:00 Paul W. Frields :

> I made this placeholder post on the Fedora Magazine: ,
> https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-27-beta-released/


Thanks, this make easier link the right page.

>
>
> * Struck out URLs for getfedora.org -- are these actually invalid? I
>   thought they are unversioned so they can be used each release.
>

Yes, you're right. It was my mistake (which I'd correct next time I go in
the page)


>
> * I updated the URL for the above Magazine post, this is used in the
>   mailing list version IIRC?
>

I don't know, can't recall; I should check  Anyway we can establish we have
to use this form.
One day I'll edit a "list of names/titles" page for the mktg stuff..

Talking points are fairly over, immediately I'll work on the announce.

>
> Gabriele and any others -- thank you for working on this!
>

Thank you.

Gabri
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[marketing] Re: Fedora 27 talking points -- can someone take the lead on this?

[Gabriele Trombini]

2017-09-28 23:28 GMT+02:00 Brian Exelbierd :

> Consider looking at the Change Release Notes as filed at
> pagure.io/fedora-docs/release-notes. Ideally our Release Notes should
> support our talking points.
>
> Regards,
>
> bex
>
>
> Hello bex.

If I recall correctly, when we spoke about talking points at Flock, you
said we could insert alking points into relnotes. Is it right?

Gabri
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[marketing] Re: Fedora 27 talking points -- can someone take the lead on this?

[Gabriele Trombini]

Hi Eduard!

Awesome! This is really useful.

Thanks.

Gabri


2017-09-28 16:02 GMT+02:00 Eduard Lucena <eduardluc...@gmail.com>:

> Hi!
>
> I don't have one specific, but I will create it right now, right here:
>
> - Workstation: Via IRC at #fedora-workstation very responsive team via IRC.
> - Server: I don't have an specific contact, sgallagh do the edits for F26.
> Maybe it's worthy to ask him again.
> - Atomic: AFAIK they are not releasing with the rest of the project,
> Really responsive in any via: IRC #fedora-atomic and #fedora-cloud. It will
> be good to ask how they are different and how we should announce this
> "separation" to the public.
> - ARM: Via ML a...@lists.fedoraproject.org really resposive.
> - KDE: Via IRC #fedora-kde and via ML k...@lists.fedoraproject.org. The
> best way to reach them is in their meetings: "KDE SIG Meeting - every
> Tuesday at 15:00 UTC independently of DST"
> - Cinnamon: I don't have contacts here. User Grinnz was the one who do F26
> TPs for Cinnamon.
> - LXQt: They are responsive in their IRC channel: #fedora-lxqt. lupinix is
> in charge of this project, and he is really helpful.
> - For Labs is wierd, only Design team answer via own editions done by user
> Luya.
> - Mate Compiz: I have no contacts. F26 doesn't have Talking Points in XFCE.
> - XFCE: I have no contacts. F26 doesn't have Talking Points in XFCE.
>
> That's all I have at the moment. I know you did main editions in the
> project-wide TPs in the last edition and Eischmann with project-wide and
> workstation. I supose that FESCo is a great door to knock and ask about it.
>
> I hope you find this helpful.
>
> Br,
>
>
> 2017-09-28 10:36 GMT-03:00 Gabriele Trombini <g.tromb...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hello Eduard,
>> thanks for the infos.
>> Do you have contacts for each group?
>> I admit I ever had issues to understand which group does what.
>>
>> I guess you've a list of them and that's will help me a lot (over all for
>> in order to cut the waste time needed to ask someone randomly).
>>
>> Thanks for what you're doing.
>>
>> Gabri
>>
>> Il 28 set 2017 3:17 PM, "Eduard Lucena" <eduardluc...@gmail.com> ha
>> scritto:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I was out for a little more than a week, but I'm back. Gabriele,
>> basically the procedire is to ask each team, via ML or via IRC in meetings
>> or in each channel about what is new and hot in each part of the project
>> for this release. There are some groups that goes directly to the wiki and
>> put the TPs by themselves, so maybe just a revision and edit. The idea with
>> the TPs is not to have a feature list, but a general idea of the best and
>> greater changes to allow each part of the project, specially Ambassadors,
>> to take this into account to promote the new release. Thanks for step ahead
>> with this and please don't hesitate in contact me if you need something.
>>
>> Br,
>>
>> 2017-09-28 9:51 GMT-03:00 Gabriele Trombini <g.tromb...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2017-09-28 14:17 GMT+02:00 Matthew Miller <mat...@fedoraproject.org>:
>>>
>>>> This is a call for help on this. Eduard Lucena has taken initiative in
>>>> previous releases, but can't do everything every time. We need someone
>>>> to work on talking points for Fedora 27. See the proceedure here
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Matthew,
>>>
>>> here I am.
>>> I'm going to work on TPs today and tomorrow.
>>>
>>> As you said I didn't follow the TPs editing in the last releases, so I
>>> need to give a glance to the procedure.
>>>
>>> I'll keep you updated.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
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[marketing] Re: Fedora 27 talking points -- can someone take the lead on this?

[Gabriele Trombini]

Hello Eduard,
thanks for the infos.
Do you have contacts for each group?
I admit I ever had issues to understand which group does what.

I guess you've a list of them and that's will help me a lot (over all for
in order to cut the waste time needed to ask someone randomly).

Thanks for what you're doing.

Gabri

Il 28 set 2017 3:17 PM, "Eduard Lucena" <eduardluc...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

Hi!

I was out for a little more than a week, but I'm back. Gabriele, basically
the procedire is to ask each team, via ML or via IRC in meetings or in each
channel about what is new and hot in each part of the project for this
release. There are some groups that goes directly to the wiki and put the
TPs by themselves, so maybe just a revision and edit. The idea with the TPs
is not to have a feature list, but a general idea of the best and greater
changes to allow each part of the project, specially Ambassadors, to take
this into account to promote the new release. Thanks for step ahead with
this and please don't hesitate in contact me if you need something.

Br,

2017-09-28 9:51 GMT-03:00 Gabriele Trombini <g.tromb...@gmail.com>:

>
>
> 2017-09-28 14:17 GMT+02:00 Matthew Miller <mat...@fedoraproject.org>:
>
>> This is a call for help on this. Eduard Lucena has taken initiative in
>> previous releases, but can't do everything every time. We need someone
>> to work on talking points for Fedora 27. See the proceedure here
>>
>
> Hello Matthew,
>
> here I am.
> I'm going to work on TPs today and tomorrow.
>
> As you said I didn't follow the TPs editing in the last releases, so I
> need to give a glance to the procedure.
>
> I'll keep you updated.
>
> Thanks.
>
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[marketing] Re: Stepping down from Fedora Marketing

[Gabriele Trombini]

Hello Justin,

2017-09-27 20:58 GMT+02:00 Justin W. Flory :

> Hello all,
>
> I'm sad to announce today that I am formally stepping down as a regular
> contributor to the Fedora Marketing team due to new time constraints.
>


That's really bad! If I was a CEO in a private company I would not accept
your resignations.
But sadly I'm not, so I'm forced to resign myself to not see you as
frequently as in the past couple of year.
I still have lots of ideas I was not able to explain you before this
announce (in every contribution areas in which we both are involved), but
I'm glad your presence here made me more "productive" than ever.

>
> I'm approaching the end of my degree and have increased loads from my
> curriculum and I'm also working more hours than I have before during the
> academic year. I'm aiming to scale down my contributions in Fedora to be
> focused and consistent in fewer areas than to be insignificant and
> inconsistent in many areas.
>

I wish you the best for your degree and for any future in your life.

>
> With that in mind, I'm not going to disappear completely and I hope to
> contribute when I can, but it will be less frequent and more random. I
> also hope to finish out some of the work that we discussed this year at
> Flock before stepping out completely. I also still plan to help maintain
> the social media presence, albeit less often than I do now.
>

Of course you won't disappear! Otherwise I could come to look for and bring
you back, willy-nilly (is this correct? I meant to say if you want or not).
Above all you don't have to join any other community, expecially Ubuntu,
because we don't want they take advantage from your contributions!



> Over the years, Marketing has been one of the most unique sub-projects
> to contribute to in Fedora and there is no shortage of things to be done
> or problems to work through. I've been lucky to meet a lot of you in
> person at Flock or in other places in the last two years. Thanks
> everyone that has been a part of the journey and experience.
>

You're wrong here; all the Mktg Team thanks you for your presence over
those couple of years; you were able to give us new ways for getting things
done and for throwing on the table new ideas.


>
> A special thanks is also deserved to Gabriele, who helped get me started
> with Marketing and I've always appreciated his insight and time to help
> myself and others contribute to Marketing.
>

Thanks so much for that, I really don't know what I've done for you, but
(at least this time) I consider your thanks  my best personal success in
the Project.


> As always… keep the FOSS flag high, and see you all around.
>
>
As always dear friend.
We we'll see around, take care of yourself.

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[marketing] Flock 2017 - talk proposal

[Gabriele Trombini]

Hello team,

I've submitted s talk proposal for the Flock 2017 (sorry for the late
notice), and I'd like discuss with the team the guiding lines for it.

The topic is:
"Marketing - tasks and visions
We would see the light: an overview of marketing that today actually
struggling but that dreams a bright future becoming true"

I still don't know if will be accepted or not, but in the wait of a
response, I'd like to know if there are any argument I should touch you
think it's worth to explain.

I saw the project report Eduardo and Brian explained to the Council, and,
of course, I'd like to add some extrapolations for the talk (just for
reminder) if the authors will allow.

My idea is, at first, to illustrate what mktg is doing, tasks and jobs, and
what we need to get really productive for the continuous work we have to do.

In the second, and most important for my purpose,  part (the talk is 60
min. long), I'd like to give hints to the next FOSCo (or whatever else)
about what marketing is expecting by the new body (if it happens) and
defining some future strategy proposal to the Council. At the end give the
spark for a sort of mindsharing with the attending people to get new ideas
(and project) to follow.

We know other distros are stronger than us in the marketing, so I'd like to
reach them (and overcome them, if possible) with the community help.

This is only an idea sketch that I'd like develop with you.

If there's someone who want to be a co-speaker please show up, I'll be glad
about that.

Thanks

Gabri


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[marketing] Re: Flyer in italian language

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il giorno mar 9 mag 2017 alle ore 23:51 Alessio Ciregia 
ha scritto:

> I have freely translated and adapted the flyer on the wiki.
>
[cut]

Hello Alessio,

There are some rules about Fedora colours and logo we should follow [1].
Usually we work together with the design team and we prefer the ticket
opening for this kind of stuff.
So I'm not comfortable with that and it seems the page you linked is a bit
outdated.
Please open a ticket in the mktg pagure in order to discuss what's done.

Thanks.

Gabri

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines

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[marketing] Re: Reconfirm GNU Mailman Confirm.

[Gabriele Trombini]

Hello guys,

there was a ticket [1] in which we explained the cleaning of the mktg group
from people didn't work on our tasks.
We rewrote rules for being part of the group [2][3]
If you are available for doing marketing stuff, please show up in our
meetings [4] and let us know which task [5] you'd like to perform.

Thanks.

Gabri

[1] https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/235
[2] https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/215
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Joining_the_Fedora_marketing_project
[4] https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/marketing/
[5] https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issues



Il giorno sab 6 mag 2017 alle ore 09:18 ekoikhyar  ha
scritto:

> Hallo raja,
>
> I am glad to see you here, my fas ekoikhyar from makassar indonesia
>
>
>
> Pada tanggal 6 Mei 2017 15.05, "Raja Gading Siahaan" <
> pitabis...@outlook.com> menulis:
>
>> Hello there,
>>
>>
>> I am interest to joint this mail man. I have fas fedora as pingm. I am
>> Gadinkid too. All this alias that i use. Thanks for the replay.
>>
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[marketing] Re: Introduce myself

[Gabriele Trombini]

English here please, we are a worlwide community and we must give the
possibility to understand eveything to everyone.

Thanks.

Gabri


Il 26 apr 2017 4:31 AM, "Juan Pablo"  ha scritto:

HOla Eduard,

Gracias por tu email. Yo vivo en Santiago. Gracias por el link lo leeré
luego. Bueno, me gustaría ayudar a la comunidad de alguna manera.


Saludos

2017-04-25 0:04 GMT-03:00 Eduard Lucena :

> Hi Juan Pablo,
>
> Welcome to the marketing team. We are dedicated to publicize Fedora Linux
> in several ways. Giving your amazing background, I think your aiming to
> write in the magazine, but I will like to know how do you want to help our
> team; we have some ideas here: http://fedoraproject.org
> /wiki/Marketing#How_can_I_help_the_marketing_team.3F
>
> P.D.: I'm from Venezuela, but I'm living I'm Santiango at the moment.
>
> Br,
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[marketing] Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Marketing IRC Meeting

[Gabriele Trombini]

We have regular meeting today, with 5 people attending.
We discussed about Talking Points, Alpha Release Announcement and the
Fedora User Handbook.

Here's the log:

https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-03-28/marketing.2017-03-28-13.00.log.html

Here's the actions:

https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-03-28/marketing.2017-03-28-13.00.html

Have a nice day.

Gabri

Il giorno lun 27 mar 2017 alle ore 11:00  ha
scritto:

> Dear all,
>
> You are kindly invited to the meeting:
>Marketing IRC Meeting on 2017-03-28 from 09:00:00 to 10:00:00 US/Eastern
>At fedora-meet...@irc.freenode.net
>
> The meeting will be about:
> This meeting is for active members or interested participants in [Fedora
> Marketing](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing). At our meetings, we
> share announcements and review tickets for covering with the rest of our
> team.
>
> If you're looking to [become involved](
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Joining_the_Fedora_marketing_project) with
> Fedora Marketing, this is a great time to introduce yourself to the team
> and see what we're working on.
>
>
> Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/4434/
>
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[marketing] [fedora-marketing] Issue #245 `Create Fedora 26 talking points`

[Gabriele Trombini]

mailga added a new comment to an issue you are following:
``
That's is exactly what I'm thinking since I'm in the mktg group.

The problem (IMO) is cramming the wiki with 4/5 pages each release and also 
keep the groups focused to the TPs.

Thanks.

Gabri
``

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[marketing] [fedora-marketing] Issue #245 `Create Fedora 26 talking points`

[Gabriele Trombini]

mailga added a new comment to an issue you are following:
``
The page was already created, so I just populated it ([following the talking 
points 
SOP](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talking_points_SOP?rd=Talking_Points_SOP)) 
with changes accepted by FESCo.

We need to involve WG to get it readable and improved.

Thanks.

Gabri
``

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[marketing] Re: Finished questionnaire

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il giorno mar 10 gen 2017 alle ore 13:24 Sylvia Sánchez 
ha scritto:

>
> Oh, okay thanks. I sent an email to CommOps but no reply up to now. I'll
> open a ticket then.
>
> Cheers,
> Sylvia
>
>
>
Sylvia, your interview has just been published
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/famsco-elections-interview-sylvia-sanchez-lailah/

See ya.

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[marketing] Re: Self-Introduction: rodrigodearaujo

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il giorno lun 9 gen 2017 alle ore 16:16 Rodrigo de Araujo <
araujorodrigo1...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Hello!
>
> My name is Rodrigo de Araujo S. Fonseca and I work as a videomaker in
> Belo Horizonte, Brazil.
>
>
Hello Rodrigo, welcome on board.


> I have been collaborating with Fedora and here is my FAS:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rodrigodearaujo
>
> I have a BA in Communications and Media with a major in Advertising.
> During graduation I attended a few Marketing related courses, so I have a
> general notion about the importance and effectiveness of Marketing for
> brand positioning and the growth consistency of a project such as Fedora.
>

This would be really useful in our group.

[snip]


> Please approve me in the Marketing group at FAS. I am open to receiving
> suggestions about my ideas and also general guidance on how to work
> effectively in the Marketing Team.
>

There's no need of being approved in the group for giving a hand.
We usually approve people only after a period of continous work (usually
along a release cycle) but you can start to work on our tasks without any
approval.

Main marketing page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing
Marketing tasks:
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-26/f-26-marketing-tasks.html

It would be helpful to see you also attending the meetings planned each
Tuesday at 13,00 UTC (end 14,00 UTC).



>
> A very nice and productive 2017 for everyone! :)
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Rodrigo
>


Thank you.

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[marketing] Re: Finished questionnaire

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Il 9 gen 2017 10:28 PM, "Sylvia Sánchez"  ha scritto:


Hello everyone!

I just finished the article with my answers to the questionnaire for FAMSCO
in CommBlog, and I'm wondering how it works from now on.  I left it as
"pending review".  Should I do anything else? Is there anyone who will
review and publish?


Hello Sylvia,
CommBlog is a task of CommOps.
Someone will check your article and then publish it. If you want you can
file a ticket in their track asking for the review.

See ya.

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[marketing] Re: Idea for F25 marketing blitz: Delivered in under 30 minutes or it's free

[Gabriele Trombini]

Hello,

I opened a new ticket [1] for the Design Group, I also linked this
discussion, so everyone wants to add a idea is requested to edit the ticket.

[1] https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/486

Thanks.

Gabri

Il giorno mar 18 ott 2016 alle ore 14:59 Jiri Eischmann <
eischm...@redhat.com> ha scritto:

> Matthew Miller píše v So 15. 10. 2016 v 12:16 -0400:
> > When I ask what people would like from Fedora, one of the most common
> > requests is "make it either LTS or rolling release". Since these are
> > very different thing with very different impact on users, I usually
> > dig
> > deeper and find that the real thing is people are worried about
> > losing
> > a day or two to upgrading.
> >
> > I've been emphasizing for a while now that our answer is to address
> > that actual pain point, and rather than changing the way we release,
> > we're solving it by making upgrades easy. And with Fedora 25, it
> > seems
> > like we're really getting there. Since it's one of the top things
> > people present as a problem, and we've got an answer, I think we
> > should
> > develop some marketing around it.
> >
> > I just updated my system and it took about 26 minutes. I think it'd
> > be
> > fun to play with the 1980s pizza chain delivery promise, and have
> > some
> > banners and maybe stickers with related slogans and graphics. (Of
> > course,
> > Fedora is _always_ free; that should be worked in somehow.)
> >
> > What do you all think?
>
>
> Definitely a good idea. I can imagine a video where you start the
> upgrade process, have a sip of coffee, look back at the monitor and the
> ugprade is done.
>
> Anyone it'd be great to have a video about news in Fedora 25. GNOME has
> been doing them for some time and they're pretty popular: https://www.y
> outube.com/watch?v=LhY7rpWXm1Y (they usually get up to 135k views on
> Youtube, that's a great number). Such videos can also be used at Fedora
> booths played in loops.
>
> Someone did this for F22: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgfnHck_lbI
> and it got 55k views even though it was not an official video.
>
> Generally I think we should expand more into video. I know it's usually
> more consuming than static graphics, but it gets attention. And
> sometimes it's not even that difficult. For example, we did a video
> that showed what people can find at the Fedora booth at LinuxDays. I
> just grabbed a phone and the video was done and uploaded within 10
> minutes and it was played by hundreds of ppl.
>
> Jiri
>
> P.S. my upgrade to F25 took 15 minutes in total, pretty awesome
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[marketing] Re: Idea for F25 marketing blitz: Delivered in under 30 minutes or it's free

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il 18 ott 2016 1:56 PM, "Matthew Miller"
>
> Sure - please do.
>
> I still like the pizza delivery idea too, though. :)
>

We don't have any limit about the versions we could do...

What about animated gifs?

In the ticket I'll share this discussion, so design is able to better
understand what you meant.

Thanks

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[marketing] Re: Idea for F25 marketing blitz: Delivered in under 30 minutes or it's free

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il 16 ott 2016 7:27 PM, "Matthew Miller"  ha
scritto:
>
[Snip]
>
> I like this idea in general, but in this case I'm looking more at a
> targetted message addressing the specific "upgrades are pain" problem.
> Using Mercedes as an example, like these "Keeps your cargo on the road"
> ads:
>
> http://adsoftheworld.com/media/print/mercedes_disaster_averted_1
> http://adsoftheworld.com/media/print/mercedes_disaster_averted_2
> http://adsoftheworld.com/media/print/mercedes_disaster_averted_3
>
> or "Spots danger ahead"
>
> http://adsoftheworld.com/media/print/mercedes_deer_3
> http://adsoftheworld.com/media/print/mercedes_granny
>
>

Something like "drink your coffee, update your system" with a comic
(?)where a fedora man (I'd like a woman more than a man, so the right
attention to the diversity is highlighted) drinks a cup of coffee and a
progress get completed at the same time. At the end a popup says: "system
updated".

Does it make sense?

Thanks.

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[marketing] Re: Idea for F25 marketing blitz: Delivered in under 30 minutes or it's free

[Gabriele Trombini]

Hello folks,

a couple of considerations here:

Il giorno sab 15 ott 2016 alle ore 23:13 Sylvia Sánchez 
ha scritto:

>
> I love the idea.  Effective and funny.  We should find the word or concept
> to use instead of  "free".
>

Sylvia, IMO this is not a point, 'cause "free" is one of the Four
Foundations and begins with the "F", just like Fedora. Also I don't find
any other word identifying the free concept.

>
> On 15 October 2016 at 18:16, Matthew Miller 
> wrote:
>

[snip]

> I just updated my system and it took about 26 minutes. I think it'd be
> fun to play with the 1980s pizza chain delivery promise, and have some
> banners and maybe stickers with related slogans and graphics. (Of course,
> Fedora is _always_ free; that should be worked in somehow.)
>
> What do you all think?
>
>
>
If I'm not wrong, the meaning of "1980s pizza chain delivery promise" is
the promise to get your ordered pizza before a established time, right?

Well in this case I don't think this is a viable way because there are
variables (like internet connection, hardware more or less ols, and so
on...) we can't gather in a timing for the upgrade to be assured.

Rather, some time ago, we established the slogan for the website (we can
watch it at getfedora.org "Choose Freedom. Choose Fedora.") and Taking a
glance below that sentence, we read "less setup, more innovatio. Choose a
flavor of Fedora streamlined for your needs, and get to work right away".
Maybe, we could improve that last sentence including the concept Matthew
explained in his mail.

I'd like to reach an "evergreen" slogan for Fedora. I'd love something like
Mercedes "The best or nothing". This slogan is ever recognizable;
everywhere in the world, when you hear or read "the best or nothing" you
suddenly think : Mercedes.

Thanks.

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[marketing] Re: [Marketing] F25 alpha release announcement

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il 30 ago 2016 2:32 AM, "Matthew Miller"  ha
scritto:
>
> I didn't see anything at
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F25_Alpha_release_announcement so I put
> some skeleton text there. Is someone working on this at a different
> location?
>
> --

Hello Matthew,

I was working on it, but I didn't edit the wikipage yet.
Of course your skeleton is better than mine and yes, the location is
correct.

Thank you.

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[Marketing] Re: Looking for new meeting chair

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il 23 ago 2016 7:15 AM, "Justin W. Flory"  ha scritto:
>
> Hello all,
>
> As was discussed earlier on the list, the Marketing team recently
> switched to a new time for our weekly meetings (Tuesdays at 13:00 UTC).
>
> Unfortunately, due to sudden and last minute changes to my schedule for
> this semester, I will be unable to chair the full hour of the Marketing
> meetings (I am a teaching assistant for a class that begins halfway
> through the meetings). I should still be able to participate, but not
> for as long as I would like to.
>
> I think I can manage for tomorrow's meeting, but I would rather have
> someone who is available for the full hour of the meeting be the chair
> going forward. Is anyone interested in leading our weekly meetings?
> Please let me know if this is something that interests you (I would
> prefer for an active member of our meetings or other marketing work to
> take this responsibility).
>
> Thanks all!
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Justin W. Flory

Hi guys,
I can make it.

Let's discuss it in the meeting.

Thanks.

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[Marketing] Requests for being aprroved in the Marketing group.

[Gabriele Trombini]

In the last days I saw an increasing number of people requesting to be
approved in the mktg group and that's the part I like.

In the last years we saw a lot of people approved and disappeared.

We want avoid this state of things because the tasks of marketing are a
lot and thinking that people you could count on is disappeared is a
mess.

For this reason we like to see people follow tasks and doing stuff for
at least the time one release.

Everyone can contribute also without being approved so, please, do
something and you will be sponsorized.

The mktg group is here for give help for any help you need: simply ask!

Everyone can reach us in this ML and also in the freenode channel
fedora-mktg on IRC.

Thank very much to everyone.

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[Marketing] Re: Self-Introduction: Jose Danzicourt

[Gabriele Trombini]

Hello Jose,

we're are happy you want to join us.
Let me explain a couple of things.

Marketing is quite different from magazine, even magazine is a relevant
part of Marketing.
If you're intersted only in writing topics for magazine, you should apply
the Magazine group in FAS.

Otherwise here in Marketing before being approved, people have to assure
their real help in this team.
it's not difficult but in needs a real intention to be active, and in this
case the only way is take care of tasks [1]

Anyway you can read the marketing main page [2]

Thanks.

Gabri

[1] https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-25/f-25-marketing-tasks.html.
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing

2016-08-04 9:44 GMT+02:00 Sylvia Sánchez :

> Hi!
>
> Welcome! Right now many of us are in FLOCK, but I'm sure Justin Flory will
> be available to help you so you can start writing.
>
> Cheers,
> Sylvia S.
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016, 08:29 Jose Danzicourt 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone !
>>
>> My name is José Danzicourt and my (FAS) name is jolltz.
>>
>> I will try to be brief, I would love to talk about how much I love Linux,
>> Fedora and FOSS but here we go:
>>
>> My lovely journey with Linux started when I was young with Red Hat and
>> SuSe in 2001, then Fedora Core began and to this day I continue to use
>> Fedora. It's my main and favorite distro.
>> Since then I'm enjoying the great software choice and freedom we have
>> with Linux and Fedora.
>>
>> [Skills]
>> I am a Filmmaker/Photographer that uses only FOSS software.
>> I do Hardware/OS fix for some Linux machines.
>> I like writing about everything. I did newsletters, articles and
>> interviews at college.
>>
>> This is my first time on an Open Source project collaboration, and what
>> attracted me to join Fedora was the possibility to do all kinds of areas,
>> and one I would like to do is to write for Fedora Magazine.
>> Testing updates and doc work on the future sounds great too.
>> I would love to see more videos being made about Fedora. Funny, serious,
>> interviews, music, anything would be great. Do we have a team doing this?
>>
>>
>> My goal with Fedora is to make the distro more attractive to all people,
>> with experience on Linux or not.
>>
>> You are all an inspiration to me and I hope to do the same to other
>> people.
>>
>> Have a good day!
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[Marketing] Re: Self-Introduction: Marina Latini

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il 1 ago 2016 10:44 AM, "Marina Latini"  ha
scritto:
>
> Hi all,
> I'm Marina Latini and I was an Ambassador[0] from 2009 to 2013. After
> some years far from the Project I would like to join the marketing
> team, starting to contributing again.
>
> FAS name: deneb
> IRC: deneb_alpha
>
> Actually I'm involved in Associazione LibreItalia[1] and I'm a Board
> Member of The Document Foundation[2].
> As openSUSE Advocate and TDF I atteded the last Fedora Women Day'16 at
> "Open Labs Hackerspace" and I would like to be involved in the
> diversity group.
> As member of openSUSE, TDF and LibreItalia, I would like to cooperate
> with Fedora for spreading the values shared between all this Projects.
>
> [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Deneb
> [1] http://www.libreitalia.it/
> [2] http://www.documentfoundation.org/governance/board/
> [3]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Women_Day'16_at_Open_Labs_Hackerspace
>
>
> All the best,
> Marina
>
> --

I know Marina since my early days in the project and I'm aware about her
activities for the Project and her great job for spreading the FOSS. She's
also a board member of TDF and in the past years I worked with her a lot.
That's why I sponsored the request.

Thanks

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[Marketing] Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Marketing IRC Meeting

[Gabriele Trombini]

Hi guys,

as for FAmSCo and EMEA Ambassadors meetings, I can't make it once more.
I hope this situation will end up soon.

Sorry.

Gabri

2016-06-21 19:00 GMT+02:00 :

> Dear all,
>
> You are kindly invited to the meeting:
>Marketing IRC Meeting on 2016-06-22 from 17:00:00 to 18:00:00 US/Eastern
>At fedora-meetin...@irc.freenode.net
>
> The meeting will be about:
> This meeting is for team members of the Fedora Marketing team.
>
> More information can be found on the [wiki page](
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing).
>
>
> Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/3288/
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[Marketing] Re: Fedora 24 Final Release Readiness Meeting on Thursday, June 9th @ 19:00 UTC

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il giorno lun, 06/06/2016 alle 11.02 +0200, Jan Kurik ha scritto:
> This Thursday, we will meet on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-1
> to make sure we are coordinated and ready for the release of Fedora
> 24
> on Tuesday, June 14th, 2016.
> 
Hello Jan,
Thanks for the reminder.
Unfortunately I won't be able to make it either for mktg and FAmSCo,
'cause I have a medical examination that will take all the day.
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[Marketing] Transition to FOSCo - seat reserved to Marketing.

[Gabriele Trombini]

Hello,

The incoming new body FOSCo (Fedora Outreach Steering Committee) [1]
provides a seat for the Marketing group.
At the moment the candidate is jflory7 [2] but of course we need the
group approval and i##SELECTION_END##f someone else wants to be
candidate.
Please post votes and nominations in the ticket linked below.

Thanks

Gabri


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Re: [Marketing] [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Marketing IRC Meeting

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il giorno mar, 15/03/2016 alle 17.00 +, jflo...@fedoraproject.org
ha scritto:
> Dear all,
> 
> You are kindly invited to the meeting:
>    Marketing IRC Meeting on 2016-03-16 from 17:00:00 to 18:00:00
> US/Eastern
>    At fedora-meetin...@irc.freenode.net
> 
Hello mktg team,
due to my everyday job, tomorrow I won't be at keyboard.
Regrets.
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Re: [Marketing] 2016-03-02 meeting agenda

[Gabriele Trombini]

Hello guys,
regrets but I'm not able to attend the meeting today (sick!).
There is one action item from last meeting I had to do:
#info === mailga raise marketing meeting attendance with FAmSCo
Just today I asked to the EMEA chair to put this point in the agenda
for the next meeting.
I think any ambassador could attend mktg meetings in order to get in
touch more strictly with our team.
As Famsco member I'm able to bring things in the committee, but there's
a little problem here, FAmSCo doesn't covers all the regions because
actually NA is not represented.
Thank you, we'll see next week.
Gabri
Il giorno mer, 02/03/2016 alle 00.07 -0500, Justin W. Flory ha scritto:
> Hello all,
> 
> Here is the complete meeting agenda for our meeting at 22:00 UTC. If
> you 
> have time, please try to review it before the meeting today as there
> is 
> a lot to cover.
> 
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Marketing_meeting_2016-03
> -02
> 
> Thanks!
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Re: Self introduction - fale

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Il giorno lun, 18/01/2016 alle 11.56 +0100, Fabio Alessandro Locati ha
scritto:
> Hi,
> I'm fale, a Fedora user, ambassador and packager.
> You can find basic information about me on my Wiki page [0], so I'll
> not
> repeat those.
> 

Hello Fale, I think I alredy know you.


> I'd like to help out more in the marketing side, because when I'm out
> there as an ambassador, I often find myself to think that the
> communication is not always clear due to some inconsistencies that
> are
> present in the documentation, wiki, websites of the project itself.
> Therefore I'd like to help out addressing those issues.

You're welcome


> Another thing that I noticed is that sometimes people make comparison
> between Fedora and other distro/OS based on what they read on their
> favourite blogs/twitter/planet and solely based on those thing they
> make
> their idea about the quantity of available software as well as it's
> quality. For this reason I'd also like to help out speaking (like on
> the
> Magazine) about some packages I'm taking care of.

The Fedora Project Ambassadors should "just focus on the strengths of
Fedora" [1] instead of get challenges against  other distros.

> 
> For those reasons, I'd like to help out the Marketing team.
> The first things I'd like to do are:
> 
> - clean up/sort/order the outreach wiki pages that are pretty messy
>   (I've seen that the Italian community has tens of pages that are
>   completely outdated laying around)
> - an article about AWS CLI and boto3 that just arrived to Fedora (I'm
>   working toward bringing those to EL too)
> - an article about NSD4 that is in testing right now
> 
> I hope to be able to help out a lot,
> Best regards,
> Fabio A Locati

Thank you! If you need any info, just ping me, you know how to find me.

Gabri.

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Re: [commops] End of Year Marketing Retrospective

[Gabriele Trombini]

Hello guys,

in the commops meeting held today[1], it has been established that the
deadline for the mktg retrospective [2][3] is the end of the week (Jan
17), then suggestions (and critics) will merge in the commops YiR [4].

Thanks for helping on writing useful things.

Gabri

[1] https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2016-01-12/commo
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[2]https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/212
[3]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/2015_marketing_retrospective
[4] https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/share-your-year-in-review-w
ith-fedora/


Il giorno mar, 15/12/2015 alle 09.33 +0100, Gabriele Trombini ha
scritto:
> Hello Remy (and all mktg guys),
> 
> Il giorno mar, 15/12/2015 alle 02.41 -0500, Remy DeCausemaker ha
> scritto:
> > mktgs,
> > 
> > Across the Project, one of the tools we use to get better at what
> > wedo
> > is a Retrospective. This is a report compiled by contributors that
> > more or less lists the things that went well/not-so-well, and ideas
> > for improvement. You can find examples on the wiki (QA has some
> > recent
> > pages like 
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_QA_Retrospective
> > and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Retrospective)
> > 
> > Marketing Retrospectives were once based upon SOPs (Standard
> > Operating
> > Procedures) for doing marketing tasks like creating the
> > alpha/beta/final
> > announcements, briefing ambassadors, and other interesting and
> > crucial
> > work. Some are a bit dated, but you can find them here:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Marketing_SOPs
> 
> Yes, that's right, in particular the SOP page for retrospective is
> [1]
> and I would have done the retrospective, but really was busy so I
> miss
> the date, but thank you for heading this up. 
> As the F23 mktg tasks shows [2], it was due in November. I'm going to
> open a mktg ticket for regain the time lost, and work on it soon (in
> fact we have a bit of time before before a new F24 task happens).
> 
> 
> > Since we didn't totally stick to an SOP for releases this year,
> > we're
> > just going to gather extra 'after the fact' feedback and data to
> > make
> > improvements to our process, going back to Fedora 22 when possible.
> > 
> > Here are a few questions we'd like to take a stab at answering on
> > our
> > wiki page:
> > 
> >  - What did we do right?
> >  - What can we do better?
> >  - Where did we have gaps?
> >  - How did we bridge them?
> > 
> > After we've gotten this retrospective fleshed out, we'd like to
> > reinstate regular mktg meetings on IRC in early 2016. Keep an eye
> > on
> > the lists for updates.
> 
> Agreed, I had the same thought. Honestly I'd like to clarify some
> questions inside the mktg just like how many of us are working on
> magazine and how many on tasks?
> I'd like shooting mails to mktg people joined the FAS group asking
> for
> a better engagement along the tasks time. It is not possible the
> "usual
> suspects" are the only members working on.
> 
> > 
> > If folks have any questions about this email, or additional
> > questions
> > they think would provide value to the retrospective, please update
> > the
> > wiki before Friday 12/18 (or even just respond here, and commops
> > will
> > update the wiki from this thread.)
> > 
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/2015_marketing_retrospective
> > 
> 
> We have a mktg page [3] reporting the main links to the  pages, it
> renews automatically every cycle, so the new pages should be opened
> following those red links.
> Wiki is really messed up and mktg part probably more than others, and
> we should try to get it tidy.
>   
> Thank you very much.
> 
> Gabri
> 
> > [snip]
> 
> [1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_retrospective_SOP
> [2]
> https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-23/f-23-marketing-tasks.ht
> ml
> [3]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing#Release_deliverables
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Re: Self introduction

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il giorno mer, 06/01/2016 alle 23.29 +0800, Huiren Woo ha scritto:
> Hi, my name is Woo Huiren and I live in Singapore. FOSS and OSS is
> not very popular here, and proprietary software (Micro$oft, Ci$co)
> dominates our country. 
> 
> My Fedora Account System (FAS) username is Woohuiren, and my IRC is
> GIANT_CRAB. I'm currently a Fedora Ambassador but I would like to
> participate in more collaborative marketing efforts and learn more
> about Fedora's marketing team. 
> 
> Why Fedora? I joined Fedora because I was very impressed with its
> innovation and cutting edge technology. (I love being on the bleeding
> edge) Currently, I run Fedora on most of my servers while CentOS on
> the remaining. For my laptops/workstation, I don't have a Fedora
> setup yet but I'll get started on that soon, probably Wine is needed
> as my school requires me to use Micro$oft software. 
> 
> What do I do? I am a web developer who is currently pursuing a
> Diploma in IT, with a major in Infocomm Sales and Marketing. I enjoy
> blogging and web design. I also tweet on Twitter (@woohuiren) about
> Fedora related things. Please don't mind my fairly bad attempts at
> promoting Fedora; still trying to learn hahaha. 
> 
> I hope to spread Fedora and promote the use of FOSS and OSS.
> 
> Please help me get started and I look forward to working with y'all. 
> 
> Best Regards,
> Woo Huiren
> 

Hi, I'm Gabriele and I'm happy to see you'd like join us.

I'm pretty sure you also gave a peek to our main page[1].
We have tasks on which we're working on [2] and we manage the Fedora
Magazine as well [3].

If you wanna start writing posts, please read the wikipage on how to
post [4] and be sure your proposal will be accepted attending the
weekly editorial meetings [5]. 

If you wanna work on other mktg stuff, take a peek to the tasks and
roles [6] or to the tickets still open [7] or to the wiki cleanup tasks
[8]

For any issue or request Our IRC channel is #fedora-mktg on freenode.

Greetings.

Gabri

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing.
[2] 
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-24/f-24-marketing-tasks.html
 
[3] https://fedoraproject.oerg/wiki/Magazine
[4] https://fedoraprojetct.org/wiki/Magazine/Howtopost
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine/Editorial_meetings
[6] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Tasks_and_roles
[7] https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/report/1
[8] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/WikiCleanup
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Re: [Marketing] Getting in gear for 2016

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il giorno gio, 17/12/2015 alle 20.05 -0500, Justin W. Flory ha scritto:
> On 12/17/2015 04:42 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
> > On 12/17/2015 02:53 PM, Justin W. Flory wrote:

Hi guys,

> > > 
> > > I see. How often were meetings happening in the past? From my
> > > perspective, I think maybe the frequency as well as the
> > > organizational
> > > pre-meeting plans could be adjusted. I know for the CommOps
> > > group, we
> > > have a very rough outline of "things to cover" in the meetings in
> > > a wiki
> > > outline. Additionally, having ticket-oriented meetings also seems
> > > to
> > > have had decent success with the Design Team. Perhaps we could
> > > try to
> > > incorporate tickets as a central part of our meetings?
> > 
> > Tickets wouldn't hurt. It's been a while so I don't recall how much
> > we
> > were using Trac at the time, but it couldn't hurt.
> > 
> > It seems to me it was weekly for a while, then bi-weekly. Again,
> > it's
> > been a long while (2013, early 2014 maybe?) and a new flock of
> > Fedorans
> > to help kickstart.
> 
> With what you and Ruth said, it seems like it might be a good idea to
> space meetings on a monthly basis, and maybe increase frequency in
> the 
> month / two months before the release?
> 
> I think the next step might be to put a potential meeting date and 
> timeslot on the map for 2016.
> 
> --

I'm ok with a ticket based meetings (in effect I'm using tickets as a
to do list yet). Let me make some considerations:

1) at present few people from magazine is working on marketing as well;
2) in these days I'm looking at the wiki and we need a renovation about
that. There are a lot of pages I didn't know they existed;
3) maybe we should plan meeting time based on our tasks, and monthly
only for parsing tickets;
4) in order to have a clear marketing meeting I think it don't have to
include magazine (magazine meetings can goin'on as usual).

Today I have time enough to put my specific considerations in the
retrospective.

Thanks.

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Re: [commops] Re: [Marketing] Getting in gear for 2016

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il giorno ven, 18/12/2015 alle 14.24 -0500, Joe Brockmeier ha scritto:
> On 12/18/2015 04:38 AM, Gabriele Trombini wrote:
> > Il giorno gio, 17/12/2015 alle 20.05 -0500, Justin W. Flory ha
> > scritto:

> > > On 12/17/2015 04:42 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
> 
> > 3) maybe we should plan meeting time based on our tasks, and
> > monthly
> > only for parsing tickets;
> 
> Not sure I fully grok what you're suggesting here. I think you're
> saying
> monthly meeting to go through tickets, but no sure about "plan
> meeting
> time based on our tasks."
> 
Hello Joe,
I meant that, excluding Magazine stuff, there is spare time where we
don't have anything really urgent to discuss and we could base the
meetings time on the marketing tasks [1] because there are days in
which we need to be synchronized.Of course if we decide to manage those
tasks through the trac this proposal doesn't make any sense.
[1]
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-24/f-24-marketing-tasks.html
Hope I have explained better what I meant.
Thanks.
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Re: [commops] End of Year Marketing Retrospective

[Gabriele Trombini]

Hello Remy (and all mktg guys),

Il giorno mar, 15/12/2015 alle 02.41 -0500, Remy DeCausemaker ha
scritto:
> mktgs,
> 
> Across the Project, one of the tools we use to get better at what
> wedo
> is a Retrospective. This is a report compiled by contributors that
> more or less lists the things that went well/not-so-well, and ideas
> for improvement. You can find examples on the wiki (QA has some
> recent
> pages like https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_QA_Retrospective
> and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Retrospective)
> 
> Marketing Retrospectives were once based upon SOPs (Standard
> Operating
> Procedures) for doing marketing tasks like creating the
> alpha/beta/final
> announcements, briefing ambassadors, and other interesting and
> crucial
> work. Some are a bit dated, but you can find them here:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Marketing_SOPs

Yes, that's right, in particular the SOP page for retrospective is [1]
and I would have done the retrospective, but really was busy so I miss
the date, but thank you for heading this up. 
As the F23 mktg tasks shows [2], it was due in November. I'm going to
open a mktg ticket for regain the time lost, and work on it soon (in
fact we have a bit of time before before a new F24 task happens).


> Since we didn't totally stick to an SOP for releases this year, we're
> just going to gather extra 'after the fact' feedback and data to make
> improvements to our process, going back to Fedora 22 when possible.
> 
> Here are a few questions we'd like to take a stab at answering on our
> wiki page:
> 
>  - What did we do right?
>  - What can we do better?
>  - Where did we have gaps?
>  - How did we bridge them?
> 
> After we've gotten this retrospective fleshed out, we'd like to
> reinstate regular mktg meetings on IRC in early 2016. Keep an eye on
> the lists for updates.

Agreed, I had the same thought. Honestly I'd like to clarify some
questions inside the mktg just like how many of us are working on
magazine and how many on tasks?
I'd like shooting mails to mktg people joined the FAS group asking for
a better engagement along the tasks time. It is not possible the "usual
suspects" are the only members working on.

> 
> If folks have any questions about this email, or additional questions
> they think would provide value to the retrospective, please update
> the
> wiki before Friday 12/18 (or even just respond here, and commops will
> update the wiki from this thread.)
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/2015_marketing_retrospective
> 

We have a mktg page [3] reporting the main links to the  pages, it
renews automatically every cycle, so the new pages should be opened
following those red links.
Wiki is really messed up and mktg part probably more than others, and
we should try to get it tidy.
  
Thank you very much.

Gabri

> [snip]

[1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_retrospective_SOP
[2]
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-23/f-23-marketing-tasks.html
[3]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing#Release_deliverables
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Re: Newbie

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Il giorno mar, 24/11/2015 alle 19.19 +0200, Tshepo Tamajobe ha scritto:
> Hello guys, I'm new to the fedora project and wish to get help so I
> could start contributing as soon as possible
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Hello,

I guess this is not the right ML, please send a mail to 
fedora-j...@lists.fedoraproject.org or join the IRC channel #fedora
-join on freenode for a starting point.

This is the marketing list and I don't understand if this is the group
you wanna join.

Thanks

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Re: Newbie

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il giorno mar, 24/11/2015 alle 19.27 +0200, Tshepo Tamajobe ha scritto:
> I want to market Fedora in my country and Region, so I was looking
> for marketing tips on that
> 

I'm not sure what you mean for "market", if you want to promote Fedora,
probably being ambassador is the best.

Which region are you talking about?

If you want to be part of marketing, take a peek to our wikipage [1],
but our job is not related to getting in touch with public or creating
events, this is a ambassadors work.

you should explain something more about your skills, projects and so
on.

Thank you.

Gabri

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Re: [commops]"Thankful" Hashtag Campaign: #FOSSgiving

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il giorno gio, 19/11/2015 alle 18.36 -0500, Remy DeCausemaker ha
scritto:

Hello,
[snip]> So what we came up with was a social media campaign to
encourage> people to be "Thankful" during Thanksgiving, and tag/shout
-out/thank> any Free/Open Source Software people/projects in a tweet.> 
> We would then cherry pick some of the best ones, to be embedded in a>
 Fedora Magazine Post and published on Thanksgiving.
Thanksgiving is a pretty American holiday and, whenever I write a post,
I never append any thankful string for Italian (or religious) holidays
as well.
We are an international community, in that way so we should "create"
hashtag for each regional holiday.
Finally I'm not against this kind of things, but if we think is worth
mentioning holidays we should edit a banner or something similar in the
main page of fedmag.
Just my 2 cents.
Gabri
> 

> bkp,
> 
> We're overdue for a catchup on a variety of things, but I have a
> specific request from Fedora magazine.
> 
> Today, in our Editorial meeting we discussed how with next week being
> the Holiday, we wanted to do something special, but we also wouldn't
> have as much time/people/resources to publish major articles.
> 
> So what we came up with was a social media campaign to encourage
> people to be "Thankful" during Thanksgiving, and tag/shout-out/thank
> any Free/Open Source Software people/projects in a tweet.

Thanksgiving is a pretty American holiday and, although it's one of the
most important US holiday, in the rest of the world there's no the same
feeling
We are an international community, in that way so we should
"create" hashtag for each regional holiday.
Finally I'm not against this
kind of things, but if we think is worth mentioning holidays we should
edit a banner or something similar in the main page of fedmag.
We should
be thankful each day of the year.
Just my 2 cents.
Gabri

[snip]
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New tagline in get.fp.o

[Gabriele Trombini]

Hi guys,

There's the need to enhance the get.fp.o tagline (currently "Fedora is
now more focused") as requested from websites.

Some proposals are bring up in this ticket [1], therefore submit your p
roposal or let's vote for one of them.

Thanks

Gabri

[1] https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/204
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Re: Community Blog

[Gabriele Trombini]

Hello guys,

a very good job.
We really need this information channel.
Thanks

Gabri

Il giorno mer, 28/10/2015 alle 06.43 +1000, Ryan Lerch ha scritto:
> Hi all,
> 
> The long talked about Fedora Community Blog is now up and running:
> 
> http://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/
> 
> As we have discussed in other threads about the community blog, this 
> will be the place where we will communicate with the Fedora community
> of 
> developers and contributors, and the Magazine will be more focused on
> quality content for our users.
> 
> Also, as the community blog is not really Marketing related, the main
> dicussion point for the Community blog is the CommOps list:
> 
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/commops
> 
> cheers,
> ryanlerch
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Re: [Magazine] Join Day Discussion

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il giorno gio, 22/10/2015 alle 18.13 -0400, Justin W. Flory ha scritto:
> Hey all,

Hello Justin,

[cut]


> One of the main concerns that was mentioned in the meeting was 
> attracting more contributors who have trouble with English, where
> they 
> might have a quality idea, but it increases the work load on the
> editors 
> to clean and polish up articles to publication-worthy status. I think
> Paul best summed up the ideal situation with this line:
> 

[cut]

Yes, that would be good; English native proofreaders is one of the
solution, maybe the best. Is it the case to think about a category
specifically for this role?
Someone could have the desire to only work in the posts still to
publish, without any other responsibility.

> 
> With that in mind, if we do a Join Day, we will likely want to target
> both people interested in being writers and/or editors.

In order to get familiar with some terms, I advise this pages [1][2]


> 
> I'm a little pinched for time so I wanted to get this out before I
> head 
> out for the next few hours, but hopefully Gabri or Ankur can fill in
> any 
> major holes I missed.

Target is really clear, no worries about missed holes. We only have to
wait for any suggestion and set-up a proper workflow.

I think that this join-day could bring benefits also to the rest of
Mktg (that is a candidate for the next).
> 
> Thanks!

Thanks Justin, Paul and Ryan.

Gabri


[1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine/Howtopost
[2]http://fedoramagazine.org/publishing-workflow/
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Re: [Magazine] Closing comments on old articles?

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il giorno lun, 19/10/2015 alle 09.55 -0400, Paul W. Frields ha scritto:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 03:19:31PM -0400, Justin W. Flory wrote:
> > On 10/16/2015 03:15 PM, Gabriele Trombini wrote:
> > > Il giorno ven, 16/10/2015 alle 14.55 -0400, Paul W. Frields ha
> > > scritto:
> > > > How do folks feel about time-limiting open comments on
> > > > articles?
> > > > We often see comments coming in on old articles.  We can't
> > > > reasonably expect authors to monitor these forever.  It seems
> > > > to
> > > > me like 30 days should be enough time to allow comments,
> > > > considering the curve of hits we see on the articles.
> > > > 
> > > > What do other folks think?
> > > 
> > > good point, sometimes I'm really bored about seeing comments on
> > > old
> > > posts; but there are some evergeen post we should leave open (e.g
> > > [1][2][3]) or open for a long time.
> > > 
> > > IMO posts not related to the release or a specific version of
> > > software
> > > should be open for more than 30 days.
> 
> How long?  90 days?  180?  Forever?
> And what would you, as a commenter, a reader, or an editor, expect to
> happen with the comments left after a certain period?
> 
> > > Is there a way (e.c. categories) to handle these terms? Are we
> > > able to
> > > distinguish amongst posts? Also, are we able to remind to the
> > > author
> > > his post is going to be closed, so he can ask to leave open if he
> > > considers that its cycle is not ended?
> > > 
> > > [1]http://fedoramagazine.org/make-github-pages-blog-with-pelican/
> > > [2]http://fedoramagazine.org/how_we_translate_fedora/
> > > [3]http://fedoramagazine.org/use-fpaste-share-problem-reports/
> > > 
> > 
> > I think having a category or some kind of tag to mark articles as
> > time-sensitive is a good idea - I also think there are some
> > articles that
> > might be better for a longer commenting period and others that are
> > useful
> > only for a specific window of time (as mentioned with specific
> > Fedora
> > releases). I think this also depends on the author's activity with
> > the
> > magazine too.
> 
> The built-in function in Wordpress is global.  Either comments are
> open, disabled on articles after a certain time period, or closed.
> 
> I found a plugin that accomplishes what we want on an individual post
> basis:  https://wordpress.org/plugins/comment-expirator/
> 
> We should probably test that elsewhere before trying on the site. 
>  The
> plugin has a pretty low uptake, although it looks simple enough.
> 
> -- 
> 
I'm guessing about categorized  articles:

A) general (like mine a couple of years ago [1], "how do you Fedora"
series[2] or groups related [3] and similar [4]-> no closing terms;

B) events (Fudcon, Flock and so on) -> closed when new events happen (a
year?);

C) election, meetings and so on - manually(?) closed when things are
over;

D) Fedora/n: -> automatically closed every new release;

E) Software, hardware, howtos and so on: -> manually(?) closed when
updated or rewrote;

This is very hard to handle; it needs almost an admin manual check, so
I think we should determine deadlines for each category we would
maintain. 

On different perspective, I expect to happen:

- as commenter: fill in a comment, waiting for author reply and going
on if we might discuss; guessing how long it can last it's really hard.
But probably those kind of comments become obsoletes when points D) and
E) above happen.  
- as reader: the same of as commenter, difference is small. In this
case I'm only following the discussion amongst other people.
- as editor: I'm expecting a lot of people send me thanks for the
article and I'd be really glad to start a discussion and if it's a
generic article, seeing other's point of view and sometimes change my
opinion or change people's opinion. 

Either fedmag is a resource to browse, study, read, deepen and view as
a Fedora living historic memory or make it a sort of feed reader just
setting up a cold expiration date everywhere.

That's what I think.

Thanks Gabri


[1] http://fedoramagazine.org/we-are-everywhere-you-need/
[2] http://fedoramagazine.org/major-hayden-how-do-you-fedora/
[3] http://fedoramagazine.org/about-fedora-infrastructure/
[4] http://fedoramagazine.org/join-fedora/

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Re: [Magazine] Closing comments on old articles?

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il giorno ven, 16/10/2015 alle 14.55 -0400, Paul W. Frields ha scritto:
> How do folks feel about time-limiting open comments on articles?  We
> often see comments coming in on old articles.  We can't reasonably
> expect authors to monitor these forever.  It seems to me like 30 days
> should be enough time to allow comments, considering the curve of
> hits
> we see on the articles.
> 
> What do other folks think?
> 
> -- 
> Paul W. Frields
> 
>  

Hello Paul,

good point, sometimes I'm really bored about seeing comments on old
posts; but there are some evergeen post we should leave open (e.g
[1][2][3]) or open for a long time.

IMO posts not related to the release or a specific version of software
should be open for more than 30 days.

Is there a way (e.c. categories) to handle these terms? Are we able to
distinguish amongst posts? Also, are we able to remind to the author
his post is going to be closed, so he can ask to leave open if he
considers that its cycle is not ended?

Thanks.

Gabri

[1]http://fedoramagazine.org/make-github-pages-blog-with-pelican/
[2]http://fedoramagazine.org/how_we_translate_fedora/
[3]http://fedoramagazine.org/use-fpaste-share-problem-reports/
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Re: Self-Introduction: Davinia

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il giorno gio, 15/10/2015 alle 23.40 +0200, Davinia Siles ha scritto:
> Hello
> 
> I hope to be doing the things well and all of you receive this
> email ¬_¬
> 
> My name is Davinia. I am Spanish, 35 years old. I am professional of
> international business I have worked in several areas but my
> favourite has always been technological sector. I have experience
> doing marketing for the software industry, producs like CRM, Business
> Intelligence and adminitrative software for ports and harbours. 
> 
> I love computers, I use them for everything. Currently I am
> unemployed... but I am not stopped! I am learning programming in
> python, ruby also I am doing a course about cibersecurity and APPs
> (in fact I am a litle bit stressed...) 
> I started recently a professional blog (I have another personal) in
> Spanish. I haven't got IRC.
> 
> Let me say what I can do for you!
> 
> Davinia
> 

Hello Davinia, I'm Gabriele (FAS mailga) and I'm one of the mktg
contributors.
We're glad to hear you are so enthusiast about computers.

In order to give us your help there's no need of having any Fedora
account but if you want you can register in FAS [1].

The starting point is our wiki page [2] and if you also want to see
more focused tasks we have a specific page for tasks and roles [3] (it
needs to be update, but still valid)

Currently we're working on the release cycle [4] and we use a ticketing
system for getting things done [5].

Usually we discuss by IRC and if you need support this is the main way
to get it. If you don't want use any client, please consider to join
our channel (#fedora-mktg on freenode) using a webchat [6].

About our ML there's nothing to say, I think, you wrote here in the
correct list.

So, for any further question, you can ask directly on IRC or here as
well.

Welcome on board Davinia!

See you soon.

Gabri (mailga).

[1] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Tasks_and_roles
[4] 
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-23/f-23-marketing-tasks.html
[5] https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/report
[6] https://webchat.freenode.net/

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Re: Greetings

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il giorno ven, 16/10/2015 alle 15.11 +, Lord Drachenblut ha
scritto:
[cut] 

> I've taken far to long to join this group after starting the page in
> 2011 but hopefully better late than never.
> 

Of course! Welcome Matthew, hope you can give us a great help.

If you have any question, feel free to ask, here or in IRC; we are glad
to reply.

See you soon.

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Re: Self-Introduction: Justin W. Flory

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il giorno mer, 14/10/2015 alle 15.48 -0400, Justin W. Flory ha scritto:
> Hello all,


Hello Justin!

> 
> I was going through the wiki for joining the marketing group, and 
> realized that I never formally introduced myself to the list,
> although 
> I've been posting intermittently for Fedora Magazine / other misc. 
> things. So I figured better late than never.

No problem, each one can contribute also without any introduction. It's
required only in the joining process.

I saw you posts in the magazine; good job! Thank you very much

[cut]




> This is my first marketing project that I've wanted to participate
> with, 
> and I do not have a formal background in marketing, but it is an area
> that interests me greatly as I think it's one of the most important 
> aspects of any project, especially in open-source.

There's no need to have background or specific skills, no worries.

> 
> The skills that I hope to be able to utilize in the Fedora Marketing 
> group are:
> - Content Creation (Fedora Magazine, Fedora Planet, etc.)
> - University Outreach Initiative (and assisting with any projects / 
> planning for that initiative if possible)
> - I'm also very open to learning new things and acquiring new skills,
> particularly in terms of marketing in an open-source project

Cool, I think you don't need any explanation about the content
creation, so if you wanna know more about the world around the
magazine, please refer to these pages [1][2]

I see you already joined our IRC channel, so nothing else to say except
that we have a ticketing system for assign tasks [3], feel free to file
a ticket for requests.

At the moment we're working on the tasks in order to be ready for the
next fedora release [4].

I'm pretty sure I'm forgetting something important, but if you have any
question, you can ask in the IRC channel.

[cut]

>  I'm very interested in working with someone to 
> organize events not only at RIT, but possibly at other schools in the
> area.
> 
> On that note, I haven't been able to find any official planning area
> for 
> work being done on this Initiative, so I was also curious to where 
> planning or discussion is mostly happening for this initiative.
> 
> I am very happy to be a part of this awesome project and the
> community 
> that surrounds it. I'm tired of sitting around in the sidelines and I
> want to have an active role with helping Fedora to the best of my 
> abilities. I'm looking forward to working with this group in the near
> and long-term future!

One of the marketing tasks is to work with ambassadors; being
ambassador allows you to organize events, in accordance with your
region.

Welcome on board Justin!

See you soon.

Gabri

[1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing
[2]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Tasks_and_roles (to be updated)
[3]https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/report
[4]https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-23/f-23-marketing-tasks.html


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Proposed changes of marketing tasks.

[Gabriele Trombini]

Hi,

for a couple of Fedora releases I checked the marketing tasks [1] and I
saw there are some tasks that don't happen anymore.

I know that Jan Kuřík is working for keeping clean processes and from
our side I think we can erase from marketing tasks the following
points:

1) propose change profiles (it is not really a marketing role IMO).
2) both one page release notes and brief ambassadors on upcoming
release are no longer made.

At last we should include the task "Email WGs to solicit bullet points
for release announcement" to put one week before the release
announcement (alpha, beta, GA).

Thanks.

Gabri






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Re: Fedora 23 Beta Release Readiness Meeting - Marketing representative needed

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il giorno ven, 11/09/2015 alle 15.03 +0200, Jan Kurik ha scritto:

[cut]
> I would like to ask for a volunteer who will join the meeting
> and will be able to provide the status for F23 Beta readiness in the
> name of the whole team. Please let me know who the volunteer will be
> :-)

I'll attend for the mktg team if no one else raises the hand.
Thanks for reminding.

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Re: Why delete me from marketing team?

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 Il giorno 15/ago/2015, alle ore 02:22, Ray Po tvvoc...@gmail.com ha scritto:
 
 hi there,
 I don't know why but this morning i got a email said i was deleted by 
 chris.roberts AT croberts.org from marketing team. Any reason?
 
 
 Regards,
 Ray

Hello,
I don't remember how many times you helped out the marketing team, but being 
deleted is not a great issue; you can help also without being in the group. 
Please take a task or let us know any new suggestion.

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Re: F23 alpha release announcement

[Gabriele Trombini]

'Sta mail è stata spedita dal telefono cellulare

 Il giorno 10/ago/2015, alle ore 20:10, Joe Brockmeier j...@redhat.com ha 
 scritto:
 
 Hey all,
 
 Checking in on this - I know Gabriele and other folks had done a lot of
 work on the talking points and such last week or so - but I don't know
 if we have a F23 alpha release draft anywhere.
 
 We're pretty close to the release (10 a.m. Eastern tomorrow) so I had a
 mild panic this evening that we may be missing it. Or maybe I missed it
 in the flurry of emails.
 
 I can *probably* bang something out tomorrow morning early, but I'll be
 getting ready for Flock and would prefer not to duplicate effort.
 
 Best,
 
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Re: F23 alpha release announcement

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Sorry for the late answer and the blank mail sent before.

I'm moving to Rochester, so I can't help. Last days I had some issues so I 
wasn't able to join to the readiness meeting, and no, I didn't edit any draft.

Apologizes.

Gabri

'Sta mail è stata spedita dal telefono cellulare

 Il giorno 11/ago/2015, alle ore 11:47, Joe Brockmeier j...@redhat.com ha 
 scritto:
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com
 To: Fedora Marketing team marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 9:38:31 AM
 Subject: Re: F23 alpha release announcement
 
 On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:29:36AM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org
 To: j...@redhat.com, Fedora Marketing team
 marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Cc: Remy DeCausemaker rdeca...@redhat.com
 Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 8:38:55 PM
 Subject: Re: F23 alpha release announcement
 
 On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 08:10:30PM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
 Checking in on this - I know Gabriele and other folks had done a lot of
 work on the talking points and such last week or so - but I don't know
 if we have a F23 alpha release draft anywhere.
 We're pretty close to the release (10 a.m. Eastern tomorrow) so I had a
 mild panic this evening that we may be missing it. Or maybe I missed it
 in the flurry of emails.
 I can *probably* bang something out tomorrow morning early, but I'll be
 getting ready for Flock and would prefer not to duplicate effort.
 
 I started a stub at
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F23_Alpha_release_announcement
 Hey all,
 
 I've filled it out a bit, but it could use some love. I'm struggling
 a bit to think of specifics for the workstation, cloud, and server
 releases. Any help much appreciated.
 
 FWIW, I added a bit of Workstation love.
 
 Thanks, Paul - massively appreciated. 
 
 Best, 
 
 jzb
 
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Re: F23 talking points draft

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 Il giorno mar, 04/08/2015 alle 08.55 -0400, Joe Brockmeier ha scritto:

 Hey - this is fantastic, thanks so much! Only one or two
 comments/observations:
 
 - Should we have an elevator pitch for this release, and what would 
 it
 be? What's the overall theme for Fedora 23?

Above my suggestion, if it's the right direction, I'll crosspost the ML
(Cloud, Server and Workstation) for gathering the notes.

Feel free to edit any sentence you don't like.


Fedora 23 will be shipped with a special attention to the system
security and is focused to the easy use.
Few of the things are related individually to each kind of users:

- Developers will find any tools to get their job improved, just like
GCC5, Mono4. Perl 5.22, jQuery; 

- Sysadmin will find optimized tools allowing to manage Server and
Cloud, such as the Cockpit GUI, Containerized Server Roles, Cloud MOTD,
Cloud Systemd Networkd;

- Users will find the latest versions of the software, e.g. LibreOffice
5, Evince and an UEFI machine firmware update, System Firmware Update.

But the whole operating system will be shipped with real improvements
related to the security. Hardening all packages, disabling SSL3 and RC4
by default, having a DNS resolver are towards to a more secure
distribution.

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Re: Fedora 23 Alpha Readiness

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il giorno mar, 04/08/2015 alle 17.09 +0100, Ankur Sinha ha scritto:
 On Tue, 2015-08-04 at 17:00 +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote:
  Hiya!
 
 I can work on the one page release notes if we want to do them this
 release. Do we? They were done last for F15 from the looks of it:
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:One_page_release_notes
 
 Here is the SOP:
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/One_page_release_notes_SOP
 
 Just so I understand this correctly, the release notes that docs do 
 are
 most detailed. Then, we summarise them into talking points (which
 mailga did), and then we further summarise these into a page which
 becomes the one page release notes?
 --

I think the one page release notes is unnecessary.
We skipped them for many previous releases. 
As you detected is a redundancy of the talking points, that are the
starting points for ambassadors.

The release announcement will summarize the features as well as talking
points do, so we can avoid to report again the same things.

IMHO.

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Re: Fedora 23 Alpha Readiness

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il giorno mar, 04/08/2015 alle 17.21 +0100, Ankur Sinha ha scritto:
 On Tue, 2015-08-04 at 18:13 +0200, Gabriele Trombini wrote:

 I'm asking if we really want a library of screen-shots - are they 
 used
 at all? Or is this another legacy deliverable that we are no longer
 interested in?

I think they still have worth for the users. E.g. many of them need the
screenshot when are going to write installation notes in their locale
or also are useful to see in advance the desktop and so on.

Its also a question of brand: doesn't provide screenshots may appear as
a lack of care.

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Re: Fedora 23 Alpha Readiness

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Il giorno mar, 04/08/2015 alle 17.00 +0100, Ankur Sinha ha scritto:
 On Mon, 2015-08-03 at 20:47 +0200, Gabriele Trombini wrote:
  Hello,
 
 Hiya!
 
 Before I begin working on screenshots for F23, do we need them? I ask
 because we didn't do them for F22.
 
 I've created an empty wiki page already, but thought I'd confirm 
 before
 I started getting screenshots.
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F23_screenshots_library

Hello Ankur,

correct; your page is linked in the main marketing wikipage 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing.

You can upload screenshot there.

Thanks.

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Re: Fedora 23 Alpha Readiness

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il giorno lun, 03/08/2015 alle 12.52 -0400, Joe Brockmeier ha scritto:
 Hey all,

Hello,

 
 There's a readiness meeting for this Thursday, how're we doing on
 marketing tasks? 

From marketing tasks [0]:

- Cleanup Marketing wiki from previous releases - I think it's related
to this page [1] and seems ok (except for the screenshots still F21).

- Cycle Marketing wiki pages for current release - I don't know if
done (honestly I still have issues to understand what does it mean,
sorry).

- Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable) - as above
 
- Spins Freeze--All Fedora 23 Spins Identified - not clear yet [2]

- Create Talking Points - not done 

- Proposed Changes Profiles - [3]?

- Fedora 23 Alpha Release Readiness Meeting - anyone will attend? 

- Create Alpha Announcement (Marketing  Docs) - not done. 



 Any folks interested in taking up the announcements
 this time around?

I'm going to take up the announcement and the talking point pages, is
there any draft? Or can I follow the previous [4]?


 
 Best,
 
 jzb
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[0] 
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-23/f-23-marketing-tasks.html
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/23/Spins
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/23/ChangeSet
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F22_Alpha_release_announcement


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Re: Fedora 23 Alpha Readiness

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il giorno lun, 03/08/2015 alle 14.55 -0400, Joe Brockmeier ha scritto:

 
 It may help to have the talking points first, though we may need to
 develop them simultaneously since we're very close to the deadline 
 for
 the announcement.

Here's the draft 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_23_talking_points
I tried to split up features/changes in the right flavours, but if you
take a look, I'll be more pleased.

There's to check out the state of Fedora 23 Boost 1.59 Uplift.

Thanks.

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Re: Please give karma to fedora-bookmarks update for F22

[Gabriele Trombini]

In data lunedì 20 aprile 2015 10:27:21, Joe Brockmeier ha scritto:
 On 04/20/2015 10:23 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
  I got this page is outdated when I click on the join link... Not
  sure what's going on, I'll take a look.
 
 Same here. Shouldn't we just point directly to the new how to help
 Fedora page? (Which I don't recall the URL of ATM...)
 
 Best,
 
 jzb

Same also for me.

Greetings

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Re: Hello everyone: My name is Pintomatic working on FOSCO Executive Dashboard.

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In data mercoledì 25 marzo 2015 16:53:00, Cesar Pinto ha scritto:
 I am Pintomatic, aka. Cesar Pinto, working with Red Hat in Business
 Development and excited to contribute to the Fedora project on this
 capacity.
 
 I´ve been involved with EMEA Ambassadors and also on the FOSCO 
initiative ,
 Interested to become work on putting together a dashboard of 
strategic
 metrics to support project leadership and inform decision making, I
´ve
 heard of some interesting initiatives on progress already (
 http://thisweekinfedora.org/), would be great to connect with the 
team and
 see how we could work together.
 
 
 There is an initiative in question to create an executive dashboard 
to be
 used by FOSCO and to be distributed project-wide to the leadership, 
by
 aggregating information from various places and presenting it in a 
simple
 manner. If some of you are working on this area and can offer some 
advise
 or would like to connect with me for this strategic project that would 
be
 great.
 
 
 Why FOSCO wants to create an Executive Dashboard?
 
 
 Visibility: FOSCO Executive Dashboard gives the project great 
visibility
 and insight. We could inform the project leaders exactly what’s going 
on in
 key aspects of the project which will allows for better focus and 
resource
 allocation.
 
 Ongoing Improvements: We have all heard it “if you can’t measure 
it, you
 can’t improve it.” The FOSCO Executive Dashboard will allow us to 
measure
 performance throughout the project and thus improve it.
 
 
 Performance Against Plan: Making sure the overall project is 
performing to
 a commonly agreed set of expectations is a key priority. The FOSCO
 Executive Dashboard could do just that. In theory, we could show 
how we are
 performing against our commonly agreed goals from the agreed 
plans versus
 our actual, real-time results.
 
 
 Contributor-Level Performance Improvements: When contributors 
know their
 performance is being visible in a dashboard, and can see their 
results,
 they innately start to improve their work.
 
 
 2 things
 
 I am
 
  seeking input / support
 
 
 
 
 - Choosing what metrics to track.
 
 - Building the dashboard.
 
 
 If anyone would like to connect with me to discuss how to get 
started on
 this. that would be most helpful.
 
 
 Thanks for support!
 
 
  César Pinto


Hello Cesar,

welcome on board :-)

statistics are strategic for marketing policies, we should check which of 
them are useful for us.

Starting with a couple of them to targeting the best efforts would be 
nice.  

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Re: Will people be grumpy if I include Mac OS X instructions?

[Gabriele Trombini]

 Il giorno 16/mar/2015, alle ore 20:22, Joe Brockmeier j...@redhat.com ha 
 scritto:
 [cut]
 But it feels slightly weird writing a howto that includes Mac instructions 
 for Fedora Magazine. Thoughts? Hope I'm just being over-sensitive.

IMO there's no problem. 
As ambassador I would love when I can say we don't boycott others s.o. and 
rather give instructions with howto for everyone.
It's also a good way to promote Fedora.

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Re: How do you log into the Magazine?

[Gabriele Trombini]

 Il giorno 12/mar/2015, alle ore 19:42, Chaoyi Zha 
 cydrob...@fedoraproject.org ha scritto:
 
 FAS openid
 
 On Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 2:28 PM Zacharias Mitzelos mit...@mitzelos.com wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 12, 2015, at 08:20 PM, Ruth Suehle wrote:
  I use the FAS openID.
  --
 
 me too

Username + password for me

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Re: Approve my FAS account

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In data venerdì 27 febbraio 2015 14:35:00, Rizky Ariestiyansyah ha 
scritto:
 Hello team,
 
 Please approve my account in Fedora Marketing Team.
 

Hello Rizky,

glad to see you here.
You can give your contribute even if you're not approved in the team.

People needs some contribute for being approved.

Below I'm copying the words of one of the Marketing leads, Chris 
Roberts:

To get started with the magazine, if you can add yourself next to the 
authors on this wiki page:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine_Team

Also to create an account on the magazine follow this link and use 
your FAS id to create an account on the site, where you can write 
articles. We like to keep the Magazine about news with Fedora, 
highlight community apps, and updates on Fedora in the community, 
where Fedora Planet is the more blog/personal section to write.

http://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin

As far as Fedora Marketing tasks, we use Trac to keep tasks that 
Marketing needs which can be found here:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing;

There are a lot of activities within the group:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Tasks_and_roles

For any further question feel free to write out in this mailing list or in irc 
#fedora-mktg on freenode.

Welcome in the group.

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Re: contribute to fedora magazine

[Gabriele Trombini]

Hi,

I'm Gabriele (mailga on FAS and IRC) and I'm one of the marketing 
contributors.

There's an amazing Ankur Sinha reply to a post on Ask Fedora [1] 
axplaining the steps to follow.

Take a look on it.

You can also ask your question in IRC #fedora-mktg.

Glad to see you here, we're looking forward to see your contribute to 
the magazine.

Gabriele

[1] 
https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/52782/how-do-i-contribute-to-fedora-magazine/

In data martedì 17 febbraio 2015 00:23:02, keglo stephane ha scritto:
 i would like to contribute to fedora magazine by writing articles in 
my
 free time.what is the process to contribute?

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Re: Want to get added into marketing/magazine group

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Hi kinitrupti,
glad to see you here.

In data sabato 24 gennaio 2015 13:13:50, Trupti Kini ha scritto:
 Hey,
 
 I'm Trupti Kini from Mumbai, India. I'm new to fedora community. Few 
days
 before I had attended the fedora 21 release party at Mumbai, India. 
The
 talks were very interesting which motivated me to start contributing 
to
 fedora projects. I wrote a blog post regarding my experience at the 
event
 [1].

Good post and well done RP.

 So, I would like to take up document writing for fedora projects,
 writing articles for fedora magazine, promoting the fedora in my 
local
 region.

We love your enthusiasm, your intention is to contribute in several 
areas of the project:

- taking up document writing: there's the translations group[1] and the 
documents group[2]

You can choose to get involved to one of them or both as well.

- writing articles for fedmag: fedmag is one of the sub-projects of the 
marketing team, the most evident, but there are a lot of work behind 
the scenes. Take a look to the tasks and roles [3].
In order to get the approval for joining the magazine group, we require 
to publish at least one post. 
Please contact croberts (Chris Roberts) on IRC (#fedora-mktg)

-promoting Fedora: you have to join to the Ambassador group[4] and 
after a mentoring period, you'll promote Fedora officially. 
If you want to join, this is the starting point [5] (take a look at the 
bottom of this page[6] because there are informations about Indian 
people).

Greetings.

Gabri (mailga)

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project?rd=DocsProject
[3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Tasks_and_roles
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors_Join_start
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On my way home.

[Gabriele Trombini]

Hello guys,

just a few months ago I left the project (special thanks to the people 
sent me their regrets).
That decision was due to some personal issues and I would not been 
able to get things well done.
Anyhow my wish was to get back asap and now here I am.
If the groups are ok with it, I'm ready to start from where I left.

Greetings

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Re: A bunch of trac messages incoming

[Gabriele Trombini (mailga)]

In data venerdì 29 agosto 2014 15:23:38, Ankur Sinha ha scritto:
 Hi,
 
 Should I file tickets for other release deliverables that we need to
 work on as well? Like these:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/For_Ambassadors/Fedora20
 
 We'll need to work with the design team on a couple of the tasks. 
Are we
 going to do the same flyers as last time or are we also going to do
 flyers.next?
 
 For example:
 - workstation flyer
 - server flyer
 - cloud flyer
 - with all three combined?

Hello Ankur,

we have to do generic fedora.next and also specific WG materials.

We should create a ticket with the stuff in the link you posted also for 
F21 and we have to define a fast track to get in contact with the 
design team.

Be careful because some of that stuff are already in the tickets.

Maybe we can merge the requests in a single ticket, avoiding 
confusion.

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Re: Marketing meeting minutes discussion 26-08-2014

[Gabriele Trombini (mailga)]

In data martedì 26 agosto 2014 18:44:47, Joe Brockmeier ha scritto:

[cut]
 
 What's the difference between an administrator and contributor in, 
say,
 the releases schedule group?

In this case there's no difference, only a bad use of term 
administrator and copy/past did the rest. 
Fixed and added jzb ;-)

I think the term administrator is correct for the magazine group, due 
to the different way to handle.

 
 Note that the marketing tasks we have are already on the big list of
 tasks for each release (see:
 https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-marketing-tasks.html)

Added this task on the release schedule section and added myself in 
the contributor list as well.

 
 We need someone to coordinate these things. Note that we're 
already
 behind (mea culpa) on talking points, marketing wiki pages, etc.
 
 I'll try to draft the first cut of talking points this week.

You're a coordinator, so you can split up job for us.

[cut]
 No objection, but an observation: Meetings are good for check-ins 
and
 such, but I find the mailing list and Trac to be way more effective for
 actual getting stuff done. I'm good with keeping the meetings but I
 wouldn't rely on those as the primary mechanism for organization.

+1
IMHO meetings are good to take a look to the status quo of stuff to 
be done, as you said, but the flowing discussions have to be posted in 
the ML and work in progress in the trac (e.g. when a step is done, not 
for everyday questions).

 
 Best,
 
 jzb

Greetings.

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Re: Fossetcon bag insert

[Gabriele Trombini (mailga)]

In data lunedì 25 agosto 2014 14:18:38, Ruth Suehle ha scritto:
  Please can you explain me what a bag insert is?
 
 Something they put in the attendee bag on behalf of your project. 
Generally
 a postcard or flyer of some sort. Sticker. Sometimes a USB stick or 
pen or
 whatever. A notable exception is Open Hardware Summit, which 
requires all
 bag inserts to be useful items.

Thank you Ruth.

IMHO in this case we can write a Fedora presentation with target to 
how to get Fedora and how to contribute.

At the moment I'm not sure that talking about Fedora.next is 
productive, because links are not ready (new site is still work in 
progress), but it's certainly a added value to the Project.

The graphic to apply is also in a alpha phase, but that's a secondary 
problem.

So we have to decide if is the case to mention Fedora.Next (added 
value) or don't talk of it.

In any case I think we should produce a flyer.

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Re: Fedora Marketing meeting #2

[Gabriele Trombini (mailga)]

In data venerdì 15 agosto 2014 08:16:12, Chris Roberts ha scritto:
 I will gladly attend, Gabri is going to write up the agenda since I have
 become very sick after I got back. I will mark my days on the 
calendar.
 
 - Chris Roberts
 

Thanks Chris,

hope you're feeling better.

Here's my agenda proposal, fell free to ask what I mean or add any 
other topic I forgot:

1) roll call
2) welcoming new people
3) fast recap from previous meeting
4) news from Flock marketing session
5) tasks and roles
6) marketing approval process
7) magazine approval process
8) preferred channel for workflow [2]
9) work to be done asap and schedule

Reading posts in reply to the topic at [1], I see good ideas but is too 
early discuss them just now. Our first step is figure out who does what 
and define main processes.
Doing things for plugging holes means having a lack of homogeneity in 
the whole workflow; in this phase we should draw the bases so work 
can be done easier. IMHO

The final agenda will be spread with a post in ML with timing for 
meeting.

See you.

Gabri 

[1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/2014-August/016262.html
[2] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/2014-August/016286.html

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Re: Fedora Marketing meeting #2

[Gabriele Trombini (mailga)]

In data venerdì 15 agosto 2014 01:35:17, Zacharias Mitzelos ha scritto:
 I know that croberts and mailga were working on the new Marketing 
Roles 
 wiki page[2], so croberts is something that you would like to add 
before 
 the meeting? Also I think that you mentioned that you have worked on 
the 
 meeting agenda, if so, could you add the wiki link of it here?

Yes, Marketing roles and tasks page is only a proposal, it needs some 
adjustments but I think could be an idea, in order to keep track of users 
without changes into the Fas.

If Chris has already worked to an agenda, I'll add some points, otherwise 
I'm available to write out one.

Thanks.

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Re: FLOCK coverage idea

[Gabriele Trombini (mailga)]

In data lunedì 4 agosto 2014 09:33:54, Ryan Lerch ha scritto:
[cut]
 
 So, my idea here would be to do individual posts for each of the 
talks
 that we are going to cover at FLOCK. This approach will also make it
 easier to assign a specific talk to a writer so we don't have multiple
 people covering the same talk.

+1

 
 I have created a draft wikipage here:
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/FlockCoverageOnFMAG
 
 to track who will be covering what.
 
 I have also added a few guidelines for the content at the top, but 
this
 is really just me throwing out a few ideas, so feel free to change /
 remove anything from there.

I'm not going to Flock, so I can take a look to this page; but what do 
you think about spreading the page to others ML, so people can add 
themselves to the list? 
How can we treat people that want covering the same talks?
 
[cut]

 cheers,
 ryanlerch

c u 

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Fedora.Next draft for trifold.

[Gabriele Trombini (mailga)]

Hello,

I've created a draft explaining fedora.next to be includde in a trifold for 
mktg use.

Can someone, take a look to the attached text and rectify what 
seems wrong/incomplete?

I'll study a layout afterwards, when the text will be decided.

GabrieleFEDORA PROJECT BASES

-Mission: lead the advancement of free and open source software and content as 
a collaborative community: 
  - always striving to lead, not follow;
  - consistently seeking to create, improve, and spread free/libre code and 
content;
  - succeeding through shared action on the part of many people throughout our 
community. 

FOUR FUNDATIONS
 
“Freedom, Friends, Features, First”

The four foundations are the core values of the Fedora community.

HOW MISSION AND FOUR FOUNDATIONS JOIN FEDORA.NEXT

  - give a positive voice for people with diverse requirements;
  - invite contributions even when they're not perfect, allowing software into 
Fedora even with rough edges, and improving from there;
  - focusing more on packages where it really matters that they’re packaged 
well, making them as useful as possible to people;
  - moving fast while still keeping a handle on the direction we’re going, 
balancing innovation with change management;
  - making easier to have projects that work on Fedora without necessarily 
being in the distribution proper.

WHAT IS FEDORA.NEXT

Fedora.Next is the word which sets the next plannings of the Fedora project. 
This consists in shipping bricks for general purposes, without gluing 
together. People can build other things and/or re-assemble the ones shipped 
into something else, although it should be clear, if done, that it's no longer 
the official set.
People can share creations and maybe even make new sets.
This is performed by the working groups that also manage many of the technical 
decisions, making them set up for growth.

FEDORA.NEXT WORKING GROUPS

- Base:

This is the common base on which the Fedora OS products will be built. Language 
stacks and environments will be able to assume that this is available and 
consistent across all of Fedora, and that change will be carefully managed.

The Fedora.next proposal suggests that this should exist, but leaves open 
exactly what it will look like. This group will create a reference document 
that answers that question, and work on the practical infrastructure for 
building this as a subset of Fedora. 

- Environment  Software Stacks

These are also policies development for software. New guidelines for how 
software may be included under the Fedora umbrella without necessarily 
conforming. 
Fedora.Next allows disruptive innovation without disrupting what works in 
Fedora now. At first, work will be concerned with more conservative approaches 
like the first generation Software Collections (which may fit in with only 
minor exceptions to the current packaging guidelines), this is also the place 
to explore and solve issues like container composition and updates. 

- Product Working Groups
The first responsibility of each working group will be to establish a 
governance charter.Then, the first required deliverable for each group will be 
a Product Requirements Document. This will include a statement of target 
audience and the role the product is intended to fill in the Fedora ecosystem. 
This document will be presented to the Board for ratification.The second 
deliverable should be a list of necessary changes from existing Fedora 
procedures needed to release the product. This should be ordered to show what 
things depend on other changes and at which point the changes will mean that we 
can no longer produce the current type of Fedora. This will allow us to 
identify the resources needed by what teams in order to implement the plan and 
at what point we may need to have a longer than normal release cycle to do 
tooling work. The last deliverable is to actually start producing the Fedora 
Products listed below. 
 
WORKING GROUPS RECAP

- Base Design Working Group

- Environments  Software Stacks Working Group 

- Product Working Groups
  - Fedora Workstation (aims: create a reliable, user-friendly and powerful 
operating system for laptops and PC hardware. The system will primarily be 
aimed at providing a platform for development of server side and client 
applications that is attractive to a range of developers - from hobbyists and 
students to developers working in corporate environments); 
  - Fedora Server (aims: common base platform with 'featured application 
stacks' built on top of it. It commits to produce, test, and distribute these 
application stacks);
  - Fedora Cloud (aims: responsible for initial and ongoing development of the 
Product Requirements Document, and for coordinating production of the Fedora 
Cloud operating system);

FUTURE IN FEDORA.NEXT

Automation everywhere: 
  - automated testing;
  - agile release engineering;
  - improving communications across platforms and areas;
  - making available in a easier way the 

Re: Willing to join Fedora Magazine team

[Gabriele Trombini (mailga)]

Hello,

we are glad to welcome you as new contributor.

Do you have a FAS [1] account yet? 

If not, when done, you can join the marketing group clicking the apply button, 
then you 
can apply the magazine group as well.

A good starting point is the join page [2]

There'a a draft page where you can figure out what marketing have to do [3].

If you have any idea, feel free to post in this ML.

For any further information, don't hesitate, just ask.

Greetings.

Gabri

[1] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Joining_the_Fedora_marketing_project
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Tasks_and_roles

In data venerdì 1 agosto 2014 10:22:30, Madhurjya Roy ha scritto:
 Hello,
 
 I'm a 17 year old student looking forward to contribute to the Fedora
 magazine.
 
 A brief introduction of myself -
 
 I'm a high school student from India. Though I've been using Linux for
 just two years, I think I've gained considerable knowledge on Linux
 and Fedora. I've used Debian and Fedora for a year each and also
 tested various other distros like Ubuntu, Kali, DSL, Open Suse and
 SuperX OS (which is a distro created by some of my acquaintances). I'm
 greatly inspired by Open Source Softwares, the FSF and GNU/linux based
 OS. Fedora is my favorite distro, I really like the combination of
 simplicity/cutting edge system it provides in a beautiful and
 productive environment! After coming to know about the Fedora project
 in detail, I am, now deeply interested to contribute and have decided
 that the magazine is a good way to start!
 
 I therefore, request your approval and guidance to be a contributor to
 the Fedora magazine.
 
 Thank You.
 
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Re: PCWorld Publication - Linux pocket booket in the September Issue at Hungary

[Gabriele Trombini (mailga)]

In data mercoledì 30 luglio 2014 19:47:29, Zoltan Hoppar ha scritto:
 Hi Everyone,
[cut] 
 They requested somekind of introduction to Fedora and kind
 of mixture about .Next... But here comes the twist. We don't have any
 (as far as I know) any press kit, or base that I can translate - so,
 the question is what should I write, or compose? Where can I found
 presskit or something that help to us?
[cut]


Hello Zoltan,

AFAIK we don't have any booklet, flyer, or press kit regarding Fedora.Next.

I'll try to create a draft covering the whole topic, in order to be ready for 
F21, and if, 
FPL design and WGs give me a hand would be great.

You need to have this stuff within autumn, right?

Well I'm working on it and I found this links that can be useful:

birth and reasons

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora.next/boardproposal
[2] http://mattdm.org/fedora/next/#1
[3] 
http://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-present-and-future-a-fedora-next-2014-update-part-i-why/
[4] 
http://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-present-and-future-a-fedora-next-2014-update-part-ii-whats-happening/

rise

[5] https://archive.fosdem.org/2014/schedule/event/fednext/
[6] 
https://www.happyassassin.net/2014/01/31/good-morning-bugfixing-and-thinking-about-fedora-next/
[7] 
http://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-present-and-future-a-fedora-next-2014-update-part-iii-governance-progress-and-more/

consolidation

[8] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora.next

[9] Logo concepts:
[10] http://blog.linuxgrrl.com/2014/05/22/fedora-next-brand-concept-1/
[11] http://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-next-logo-concept-from-mairin-duffy/
[12]http://www.ryanlerch.org/blog/fedora-next-logo-ideas-iteration/

Any further link to include?

Who's with me?

See you,

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Re: Fedora Meeting Agenda

[Gabriele Trombini (mailga)]

In data lunedì 21 luglio 2014 13:10:41, Chris Roberts ha scritto:
 Hi Mitzie.
 
 Sounds like a good idea. I will create a temporary one for the 
meeting when
 I get back into the office
 
 Chris Roberts
 

Hi guys,

what do you think to edit the join fedmag page (ex-FWN) [1] or the 
main marketing page [2] in order to insert both the new status of 
meetings and the previous logs (or even the ones starting from the 
next).

I have also an issue to figure out if fedmag is a sub-project of mktg. 
People surfing the pages aren't able to understand the real status.  
(do we need someone assigned to the mktg wiki management?)

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Join
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing#Meetings
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Re: Fedora marketing is dead

[Gabriele Trombini (mailga)]

Good morning,

let me answer quoting your points:

In data giovedì 27 marzo 2014 00:53:27, Giuseppe Pignataro ha 
scritto:
 Hi malga,
 Marketing have to port people to know the distro. And the 
ambassadors have
 to speak about the philosophy and the idea of Fedora.
 
 An ambassador can contacting few people. Marketing with the 
power of the
 Web can contact million of people.

Yes, that's why I said marketing team works on a higher level, giving 
tools to ambassadors and keep in touch with worldwide media (press, 
TV etc.).

It's not a easy way of doing; it needs a db with contacts and, overall, 
find this contacts. 
In my mind we need this steps:

1) find a contact in each country who has in turn contacts with local 
media, an ambassador or other people (local RH offices?), local 
contributors know very well the real situation in their countries;

2) find people who translate in their native language the marketing 
statements (an ambassador?);

3) set up a group of fedora contributors in order to help the central 
marketing team on holding contact with local entities (this doesn't 
means replace Famsco which coordinates ambassador activity).


 
 The ambassadors are making a good work, but the problem is that 
they speak
 only on event that are dedicated to linux or directly to software.
 
 My sister don't go to a Foss. But she have a PC.
 
 What we have to do with that people?
 
 We have to ignore them?
 
 This isn't a good marketing strategy.

Yes, this is right and I would love change this status quo, but without 
a organisation like the one I explained before, we can't do that.

There are a lot of people into mktg team (you can easily take a look) 
but few of them are really involved (and this is a criticism to myself, 
because I'm doing really nothing for the team, in these days), so the 
first issue to solve is finding contributors.

At last I know that Famsco is doing a awesome work producing swag, 
but ideas for them IMHO are complement of the marketing strategy 
along with design team.

Obviously we should find more contributors for the fedmag. 

This is only my 2 cents, don't kill me :-D.

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Re: Introducing Pete Travis to the Marketing group

[Gabriele Trombini (mailga)]

In data martedì 8 ottobre 2013 15:00:05, Pete Travis ha scritto:
 Hi all,
 
 I've threatened to contribute some content to Fedora magazine 
several
 times, and have finally decided to get the ball rolling :)
 
 I've been more or less involved with the project for a couple years 
now,
 as I have time. For the most part, I hack on documentation and help 
on
 IRC.  Sometimes I offer opinions in community discussions, too.
 
 I have only a vague awareness of marketing and branding concepts, 
so I
 probably won't be bringing any big ideas to the group.  I'd like to be
 able to write an article for the Magazine from time to time, attend a
 meeting on the off chance that I have time for it, and generally just
 learn from the experience.
 
 --
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  - 'randomuser' on freenode
  - immanet...@fedoraproject.org


Hello Pete!
It's very nice to see you also here.
I'm pretty sure your contribution will be very important, both for 
involving people in the magazine and in docs project.

I follow your work in your group and having you here is awesome.

See you soon.

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Re: Expounding meeting minutes

[Gabriele Trombini]

On 09/24/13 15:19, Ankur Sinha wrote:

On Tue, 2013-09-24 at 14:10 +0200, Gabriele Trombini wrote:

as jzb said, it would be nice if someone could briefly expound the
topics of the minutes of each Fedora meeting held in order to make
understand to the people if they are interested (or not) without
reading
the logs.

Could you please provide a link to where this was discussed? I seem to
have missed the mail :/


You have missed because wasn't into a mail, it happened yesterday in IRC 
#fedora-mktg, or the things said in IRC are not to be considered 
effective? If it so I didn't know and you could not consider this mail. :-D




Aren't meeting minutes enough? They're concise and highlight any thing
of importance in the meeting, assuming that the participants used their
zodbot tools well.


No, I don't think so.


Could you give an example of what you intend, for example with the
latest marketing team meeting logs?

http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-23/fedora-meeting.2013-09-23-19.01.txt


E.g. something like: people interested in the discussion about AP Style 
for the magazine can read the log or also  in this meeting we also 
talked about the 10th anniversary.

Indeed discussion in the meeting says more than a #action #link and so on.
People without time spare want an overview before choose if read the 
complete log or not.
Again it's the occasion to make attractive IRC meetings in order to get 
more people present.
A FESCo meeting or a QA meeting doesn't need a better explaination for 
common users? How many people could understand easier explainations?





At the moment, I find minutes enough. A quick glance tells me what went
on in the meeting and if I need to look at the detailed logs :)


Yes, that's for you and maybe :-) me, but for people who would get in 
touch with the project? Is it really understandable?


This was only an idea.

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Re: Marketing activities

[Gabriele Trombini @mailga]

Hello Chris,

In data venerdì 30 agosto 2013 13:12:27, Chris Roberts ha scritto:


All the Marketing pages should be in the marketing category, We do 
not want to put 
every wiki page in the marketing category. This can cause issues with 
the search 
function(which I have been trying to fix  ) and navigation if someone is 
browsing 
through the category's. IE How to build a RPM, ARM Secret Decoder 
Ring. This could be 
a great small project for someone who wants to help with some wiki 
gardening. 



Yes, I was inaccurate; when I wrote all the pages I was referring to all 
the marketing pages, such as
https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Marketing which 
should collect all 
the marketing pages.

In order to make easier and avoiding users going round and round, we 
could prettify 
this page pointing it out in the main Marketing page 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing, not only in the footer.

Greetings

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Re: Marketing activities

[Gabriele Trombini @mailga]

Hello Zacharias

In data venerdì 30 agosto 2013 22:56:07, Zacharias Mitzelos ha scritto:


In my opinion, in order to start assigning tasks to magazineeditors, we 
need to 
get more contributors before start doing that.But I support this idea, 
cause we 
could add people in groups in themagazine (WordPress supports that). And 
that 
could also do our lifeeasier, because each one would know on what to work 
on. 
Zacharias


My opinion is near the one jzb said. It being understood that we need people, 
in order 
to being more prolific in the research of volunteers, we should pick out tasks 
first.

In the discussion in websites[1] ML Matthew Miller proposed the merge of fedmag 
with 
fp.o; in that way the magazine could take advantage of the fp.o visibility. 
Which way 
the merge should be done I don't know. :-)  
[1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/websites/2013-August/011677.html

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Marketing activities

[Gabriele Trombini @mailga]

Hi all,

as you know I'm a new member of this group (I joined few days ago).

I see lots of wikipages about the activity and I'm a bit confused (I see 
it's under revision), so I'm trying to summarize here the main activities 
and goals.

Briefly:

1) spreading news;
2) contacts with LUG;
3) long term strategies;
4) dispel common myths;
5) keep fedora magazine;
6) maintaing updated marketing wikipages.

Think these are the major areas of interest where team is acting 
(please do tell me if I'm mistaken).

1) spreading news: of course this team has various contacts with 
press, magazines, public offices for sponsorship etc. in the whole 
world. 
There is a part of activity performed by itself and another with the 
Ambassadors involvement. In this second case, Ambassadors should 
have the opportunity to file into the mktg trac a request for sending to 
any known contact in order to publicize his event in the area where will 
be held.

2) contacts with LUGs: my own opinion here is different; here in Italy i 
tried to keep contacts with the main lugs located in the North, but is a 
lost cause. Often italian lugs are tied to their activities having a 
specific interest in things not related to an operating system (there 
are groups interested in hardware, in programming and so on), even 
though they are using Linux. Besides every little town has his own lug, 
so it's really difficult keep contacts with them. At last I think this 
activity could be performed by country Ambassadors.

3) long term strategies: that's a good point. In this area we should 
work with Ambassadors. Every year each region should produce a 
budget plan (money, events, goals) that also should be managed by 
mktg in order to find the best solution for promulgate the main of 
them. For instance, here in Italy, in September will be held the 
worldwide LibreOfiice Conference and I would been happy if Fedora 
could be into it. Knowing the long terms budget of these events, 
marketing could move to support them.

4) dispel commons myths: outdated IMHO.

5) keep fedora magazine: discussing with Mitzie, croberts and jzb, it's 
not clear who have to do what. For example we could assign task for 
each area of interest, avoiding the overcrowding in a specific sector of 
the magazine. We can launch a call for research of news editors, 
events editors, technical topics editors, blog collecting editors (I would 
love to have a Fedora inside section) etc.
My article proposal is related to what EMEA Ambassador are doing 
with the Tibetan contributors (interviews with both and personal 
considerations).

6) maintainig updated marketing wikipages: I saw you're revisioning 
the marketing pages, and in this direction I think that an index page 
(which collect all the pages) should be required. 

Sorry for boring (and for my English), but I want have clear ideas.

Waiting for your replies and don't treat me badly :-).

Greeting

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Re: Marketing activities

[Gabriele Trombini @mailga]

Hello Joe, thanks for reply.

In data giovedì 29 agosto 2013 11:50:07, Joe Brockmeier ha scritto:
[snip]

  2) contacts with LUGs: my own opinion here is different; here in Italy i
  tried to keep contacts with the main lugs located in the North, but is a
  lost cause. Often italian lugs are tied to their activities having a
  specific interest in things not related to an operating system (there
  are groups interested in hardware, in programming and so on), even
  though they are using Linux. Besides every little town has his own lug,
  so it's really difficult keep contacts with them. At last I think this
  activity could be performed by country Ambassadors.
 
 That does seem like something for the Ambassador teams to handle, but I
 think marketing is the contact point for providing resources to
 Ambassadors/LUGs to help promote Fedora.

Yes, that's the way I understand; but in the Marketing wikipage [1] is listed 
this point:
Solicit Linux User Groups[1] members to use and contribute to Fedora. 
I'm also an Ambassador and this should be on their business.

 
  3) long term strategies:
 I'm still a little new here, so I'm not really sure how budget is
 currently being tracked. Here's the most recent info, I believe:
 
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events
 
 Asking around for more info.

For instance take a look at the discussion page of last EMEA FAD [2]; there are 
lots of 
event planned for the 2013. What I meant is that some of these should be 
handled 
either by Ambassador and Marketing (the most importants). 

In that case I would suggest in the next FAD EMEA I will attend (in December) 
that 
someone of the Marketing will attend as well, in order to request budget also 
for 
marketing (if it depends on EMEA) and coordinate the actions to be undertaken.

 
  4) dispel commons myths: outdated IMHO.
 
 I think maybe this would be better expressed as Telling Fedora's story
 and informing new users/contributors.

I think this is on Ambassador business, marketing shouldn't have contacts with 
users, 
only with other sections of the Project. 

[snip]
 Usually people step up for tasks that interest them, it's hard to
 assign things to volunteers if they're not already motivated to do those
 things.
 
 But perhaps we could start identifying areas of need and asking for
 volunteers a little more aggressively.

That's the goal!

 
  My article proposal is related to what EMEA Ambassador are doing
  with the Tibetan contributors (interviews with both and personal
  considerations).
 
 Sounds interesting!

I'll do asap.

 
  6) maintainig updated marketing wikipages: I saw you're revisioning
  the marketing pages, and in this direction I think that an index page
  (which collect all the pages) should be required.
 
 Is that something you can help with?

It's easy, if we collect all the wikipages and fill in the category 
marketing_something, 
the index page will be created with all the links. 

 
 Best,
 
 jzb

Greetings

Gabri

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:FAD_EMEA_2012


[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxUserGroups
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Re: 10th Anniversary of the Fedora Project

[Gabriele Trombini @mailga]

Hello,

In data mercoledì 28 agosto 2013 17:22:37, Zoltan Hoppar ha scritto:
 Hi,
 
 I think weekly basis is much better, as the next Fedora release is not
 earlier as 2013-11-26. So, having retrospective with inserts from
 earlier conference pictures, and features made we together, and
 running systems,  FPLs I think let it be 10 week 10 interview with
 inserts, documentary like - and visualization of as the code has
 evolved. Gource vid as insert perhaps? Community size, registered
 projects, number of features per release perhaps...
 
 Zoltan
 

I'm thinking about this idea and it seems good to me, but why don't include (in 
the 
documentary like project as Zoltan said) the changes of technological world (or 
in the 
whole world) in these 10 years?

For example, something like:

in the year 2006 while cpu was pentium core (maybe), fedora switched from the 
release 4 to release 5 and 6

This can give a concrete temporal order to the growing of Fedora also to  
people not 
able to understand the exact location of the year.

greetings

Gabri
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Re: How to treat trolls

[Gabriele Trombini]

Hi,
banning is not a good way IMHO.
If you begin to ban, for any reason, people can think that this is your
way to handle issues when you're in trouble.
I prefer the admin makes a public advice, pointing out that he's a
troll, telling him that next posts will be erased if he will not stop.

Gabri

Il giorno mar, 18/12/2012 alle 15.30 +0100, Jiri Eischmann ha scritto:
[cut]
 I'm considering to ban him, but I don't want to do anything that would
 harm our reputation of open and censorship-free community. Do you think
 it crosses the line and banning is an appropriate reaction or should I
 let him be and hope that he'll stop doing it (although he can do it for
 months because it's nothing time taking)?
 
 Jiri 

Hi,
banning is not a good way IMHO.
If you begin to ban, for any reason, people can think that this is your
way to handle issues when you're in trouble.
I prefer the admin makes a public advice pointing out that he's a troll
and telling him that next posts will be erased if he will not stop.

Gabri


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