Re: [Marketing] Marketing-trac: #219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:
  Type:  task| Status:  new
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
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Comment (by bproffit):

 Latest feedback included and SVG files uploaded for review.

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Re: [Marketing] Marketing-trac: #219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:
  Type:  task| Status:  new
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
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Comment (by jflory7):

 Replying to [comment:9 zbyszek]:
 > It would be nice to add pagure to the list of infra projects. Maybe
 instead of trac.

 +1 from me for replacing Trac with Pagure.

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Re: [Marketing] Marketing-trac: #219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:
  Type:  task| Status:  new
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
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Comment (by zbyszek):

 Oops, 1278 rpms for Python 3.5 and 2873 for Python 2.7.

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Re: [Marketing] Marketing-trac: #219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:
  Type:  task| Status:  new
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
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Comment (by zbyszek):

 dnf install python-thingy does not work anymore. dnf does not support
 install by Provides, and most packages are now called python2-thingy or
 python3-thingy.
 "Get packages" could say:
Want to install what you find?
dnf install python2-thingy
dnf install python3-thingy

 I'd also add a blurb like:
Fedora 24 includes 1278 rpms for Python 2.7 and 2873 for Python 3.5.

 (This is the result of dnf repoquery --releasever=24 --whatrequires
 'python(abi) = 2.7' --qf '%{name}'|sort -u|wc -l. Maybe some better query
 should be used.)

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Re: [Marketing] Marketing-trac: #219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:
  Type:  task| Status:  new
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
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Comment (by zbyszek):

 relkease-monitoring.org

 hyperkitty moved to https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty

 It would be nice to add pagure to the list of infra projects. Maybe
 instead of trac.

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Re: [Marketing] Marketing-trac: #219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:
  Type:  task| Status:  new
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
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Comment (by jflory7):

 I just sat down and took a look through the brochure. I left my comments
 in the [https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/434#comment:9 Design
 Team ticket], but since we also requested feedback in this ticket, I will
 also post them here:

 * '''outer: "Learn more at:"'''
  * This should probably be https://getfedora.org/ instead of
 http://www.fedoraproject.org. Even though it redirects, it's probably more
 accurate to use the domain you are redirected to versus the
 fedoraproject.org domain. The QR code may need to be updated too.
 * '''outer: Python questions? Wiki page'''
  * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Python
  * Linking to the wiki page here might be a good idea too since a lot of
 information about how to help / get involved is included here.
 * '''inner: Get Fedora'''
  * The URL used is get.fedoraproject.org. Should probably be
 https://getfedora.org/
 * '''inner: Mentioning DevAssistant'''
  * DevAssistant is a popular tool to help get development workspaces set
 up and ready to go, saving time from having to prepare a workspace
 environment. Based on feedback received on the list and also at events, I
 think making mention of DevAssistant somewhere in the brochure is a good
 idea as well.

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Re: [Marketing] Marketing-trac: #219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:
  Type:  task| Status:  new
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
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Comment (by jflory7):

 '''Discussed in [https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-
 meeting-1/2016-03-30/marketing.2016-03-30-20.59.html 2016-03-30
 meeting].'''

 = Review request: Brochure =

 Above this comment, bkp attached the latest version of the Python + Fedora
 marketing brochure. The content and graphics could hit the printing press
 ASAP, but we want some other Python developers and contributors in Fedora
 to look this over and verify that everything checks out / makes sense /
 isn't going to get Fedora laughed at for a mistake at a conference.
 Additionally, if there's any major points you think are missing, feel free
 to let us know!

 = Next up: Organizing another porting vFAD? =

 The next possible step for this ticket is to organize another vFAD and put
 a little marketing effort behind it to see if we can help drum up some
 extra support for migrating packages. I will contact the Python SIG
 mailing list about this idea soon.

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Re: [Marketing] Marketing-trac: #219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:
  Type:  task| Status:  new
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
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Comment (by rbergero):

 FYI that the Ansible address is ansible.com -- not ansible.cc, as shown in
 the python brochure.

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Re: [Marketing] Marketing-trac: #219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:
  Type:  task| Status:  new
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
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Comment (by zbyszek):

 This might be somewhat niche, but for some people it's important, and it
 ties nicely into the university outreach program. Fedora has nice support
 for the Python scientific stack, including Python 3. A bunch of packages
 has been added recently through the NeuroFedora project
 [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1276941], but also some other
 things like python-sphinxcontrib-bibtex. Of course there's numpy, scipy,
 matplotlib, ipython, vtk, etc, etc. Altogether this forms a pretty
 environment for scientific python work.

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Re: [Marketing] Marketing-trac: #219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:
  Type:  task| Status:  new
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
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Comment (by amitksaha):

 I am the creator/maintainer of Fedora Scientific.  Python tools and
 libraries are actively being used in the scientific community and Fedora
 has its own lab product to cater to those in the form of [http://fedora-
 scientific.readthedocs.org/en/latest/python_programming.html Fedora
 Scientific].

 I think this would make a nice point for what you are after.

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Re: [Marketing] Marketing-trac: #219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:
  Type:  task| Status:  new
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
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Comment (by churchyard):

 As a Python Maint and Python SIG team member and an ambassador I would
 love to participate on this.

 Random thoughts:

  * We also have pypy and pypy3 in Fedora. Remove Jython form the brochure
 as it is outdated and maybe nobody works on that.
  * When doing some designing, see also https://github.com/fedora-python
 /fedora-loves-python
  * There is a Python section on http://whatcanidoforfedora.org/
  * See http://fedora.portingdb.xyz/
  * Our infra project use Python, our tools like Anaconda and dnf use
 Python

 I was also about to propose some marketing thing with #FedoraLovesPython
 hashtag on Twitter etc. (For example on EuroPython, hand over the
 sticekrs, ask people to tweet pics of their devices with those stickers
 with hashtags #FedoraLovesPython and #EuroPython in order to win some
 prices or get a badge or something). Maybe we could use #FedoraLovesPython
 also in the brochure.

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Re: [Marketing] Marketing-trac: #219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors

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#219: Create Python talking points for Ambassadors
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  Reporter:  jflory7 |  Owner:
  Type:  task| Status:  new
  Priority:  critical|  Milestone:  Fedora 23
 Component:  Talking points  |   Severity:  urgent
Resolution:  |   Keywords:  python, meeting
Blocked By:  |   Blocking:
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Changes (by jflory7):

 * cc: kushal, jzb, bkp (added)


Comment:

 '''Discussed in [https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-
 meeting-1/2016-03-09/marketing.2016-03-09-21.55.html 2016-03-09
 meeting].'''

 = Banner =
 bkp volunteered to update the
 [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Python_brochure Python brochure]
 for 2016. The source for the image and the basics are there, but it needs
 some refreshing for 2016.

 Once the changes are complete, the revisions will be uploaded to the wiki
 and a notification will be sent to the Marketing list so we can begin
 printing / distributing this across the channels.

 = Marketing ideas and approaches =
 We had a few ideas come up for how we can approach marketing to
 Pythonistas about why Fedora is awesome to work on Python with!

 * Promote [https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/ Google Summer of Code]
 Python projects on the Community Blog, Magazine, and social media
 * Get a conversation started on the list about using Python in containers
 and how Fedora is a great place to do this kind of work (bring in some
 Pythonistas to the conversation, like Nick Coghlan, Kushal Das, etc.)
 * Talk to the [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Python Python SIG]
 about organizing another Python2 => Python3 vFAD to get some awesome work
 done and promote how Python3 is a big thing in Fedora

 = Standalone meeting? =
 jzb also mentioned the possibility of dedicating an entire meeting time
 slot to only this topic. Do we want to make it take over next week's
 meeting (or at least leave the first ten minutes for high priority tickets
 and the other 50 minutes only for Python)? Or do we want to schedule a new
 meeting in a new time slot to try to pull in some Python experts who might
 not otherwise be able to attend?

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