Re: Document Freedom Day 2013 -- March 27

2013-03-01 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Rob, It is very informative and include the same in the page


or not



 With Warm Regards

 V.Kadal Amutham
 919444360480
 914422396480


 On 1 March 2013 21:34, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

  On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 2:45 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote:
   The  http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Dfd gives very few information
 how
   OpenOffice uses the open standard file format. By reading the page, I
 am
   not sure whether all the files of AOO are of open standard. The page
 can
  be
   added with few more information, in what direction the open standard
 file
   formats are available. Is there any file format for drawings ,
 paintings,
   video, audio etc.
  
 
  The ODF standard handles the main formats used by OpenOffice
 applications:
 
  *.odt = text documents
  *.ods = spreadsheets
  *.odp = presentations
 
  (There are others as well, but less common)
 
  Open standard has different meanings, which you can see here:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_standard
 
  But generally it means 1) It is a published standard, and 2) It does
  not require payment of royalties in order to implement it.
 
  There are many standards out there that are not open.   For example
  MP3 audio has several patents on it, and a device manufacturer that
  implements MP3 must pay royalties.
 
  But most of the common web standards, including all those from the
  W3C, are open standards.  The ODF document format standard is also
  open.
 
  OpenOffice also implements some formats that are not open standards.
  For example, the old binary format from Microsoft, the doc/xls/ppt
  formats.  Although these don't require royalty payments, they are not
  standards, since they have not been reviewed/approved by any standards
  organization.  So they are not open standards.
 
  The advantage of open standards is that it encourages competition
  since everyone has access to the technical information as well as
  rights to implement the standard.   This is quite common today, but it
  was not always this way.  For example, back around 2000 we didn't have
  good documentation on Microsoft file formats.  And the only
  information available had a restriction on it, that it could not be
  used by anyone was creating a competing application.  So this lead to
  lock-in, where the user had to continue buying Microsoft Office in
  order to have access to their own documents.  It was a lot of hard
  work, especially in Europe where the EC got involved, but now open
  standards are the norm for document formats.
 
  Regards,
 
  -Rob
 
 
 
  Regards,
 
  -Rob
 
 
   With Warm Regards
  
   V.Kadal Amutham
   919444360480
   914422396480
  
  
   On 28 February 2013 01:35, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
  
   On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org
  wrote:
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org
 wrote:
   
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com
 
   wrote:
 On 1) Can I suggest we make the graphic change maybe 3-5 days
  before
   DFD.
 Make an earlier blog post letting people know its coming up. We
   should go
 viral before the day.

   
I agree.  Even though the actual even is on a specific day we'll
 get
more notice if we start a few days ahead of time.
   
 I could create a small page about AOO and DFD and what it means
 to
  us.
 Much like the download page, we can assign the social platform
   meta-data
 image and text to the one we're promoting AOO with.  We could
 then
   link
it
 to the early and day-of blog posts.

   
So the idea would be that visitors could like or share that page to
their social network?  I like that idea.  Anything that we can do
 to
turn it into a two-way engagement/sharing will be more effective
 than
simply broadcasting information in a single direction.
   
For example, with IMLD, the actual blog post did not get much of a
response, but a simple Facebook post asking the question How do
 you
say 'free software' in your Mother Language? got 45 comments, 44
likes, and 2 shares.
   
   
 - - - - -
 PAGE META DATA
 [Image=AOO-DFD-Doodle.png]
 [Title=Apache OpenOffice celebrates DFD, learn more here.]
 [Text=AOO is committed to support ODF standards so that everyone
  can
 access their information independent of the tools and suites they
  use.
 Learn more here.]

 IN TYPICAL OO.org PAGE TEMPLATE
 [Short brief about what it means to us. Benefits to society, talk
   about
 owning your information and having the freedom to move to other
  office
 suites and OS/Technology platforms. Talk about how we support
  multiple
 platforms for that freedom. Windows to Linux to OS X]

 Let your friends know its document freedom day on March 27th:
 [Share Facebook] [Share Twitter] [Share Google+]
   
   
 

Re: Document Freedom Day 2013 -- March 27

2013-03-01 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 2:45 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote:
  The  http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Dfd gives very few information how
  OpenOffice uses the open standard file format. By reading the page, I am
  not sure whether all the files of AOO are of open standard. The page can
 be
  added with few more information, in what direction the open standard file
  formats are available. Is there any file format for drawings , paintings,
  video, audio etc.
 

 The ODF standard handles the main formats used by OpenOffice applications:

 *.odt = text documents
 *.ods = spreadsheets
 *.odp = presentations

 (There are others as well, but less common)


 I believe this content is easily available on the net, however the focus of
 a microsite is to give a very general and to the point message. And also
 provide other angles on this like public testimonies, proof of qualities
 and milestones in the adoption of the subject (in this case open documents)
 and it's relation with the project.


Yes, of course.  This is just background information for those on the
list who is not familiar with the history here.

 Anyone can go to wikipedia and learn more about the technical parts such as
 how many OpenDocuments are, but I think this isn't really the goal of a
 microsite, nor should it daunt the reader with it.

 I also think is an opportunity to embrace some design trends used such as
 Single-Page Websites SEO techniques and further trends that could be done
 on a sandbox.


There are at least two pieces here:

1) The blog post should, I think, explain the relationship between the
AOO project and ODF.  We have a good story to tell here, both
historically as well as currently.  The blog post, though is read by
relatively few people.

2) The Document Freedom Day web page can be more purely about showing
support for Document Freedom.  It should be something that someone
wants to share on Facebook.  Something with a snappy message, visually
compelling or interesting in some way that you want to let others know
about it.  It needs to be worth a click.

-Rob




 Open standard has different meanings, which you can see here:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_standard

 But generally it means 1) It is a published standard, and 2) It does
 not require payment of royalties in order to implement it.

 There are many standards out there that are not open.   For example
 MP3 audio has several patents on it, and a device manufacturer that
 implements MP3 must pay royalties.

 But most of the common web standards, including all those from the
 W3C, are open standards.  The ODF document format standard is also
 open.

 OpenOffice also implements some formats that are not open standards.
 For example, the old binary format from Microsoft, the doc/xls/ppt
 formats.  Although these don't require royalty payments, they are not
 standards, since they have not been reviewed/approved by any standards
 organization.  So they are not open standards.

 The advantage of open standards is that it encourages competition
 since everyone has access to the technical information as well as
 rights to implement the standard.   This is quite common today, but it
 was not always this way.  For example, back around 2000 we didn't have
 good documentation on Microsoft file formats.  And the only
 information available had a restriction on it, that it could not be
 used by anyone was creating a competing application.  So this lead to
 lock-in, where the user had to continue buying Microsoft Office in
 order to have access to their own documents.  It was a lot of hard
 work, especially in Europe where the EC got involved, but now open
 standards are the norm for document formats.

 Regards,

 -Rob



 Regards,

 -Rob


  With Warm Regards
 
  V.Kadal Amutham
  919444360480
  914422396480
 
 
  On 28 February 2013 01:35, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 
  On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org
 wrote:
   On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
  
   On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com
  wrote:
On 1) Can I suggest we make the graphic change maybe 3-5 days
 before
  DFD.
Make an earlier blog post letting people know its coming up. We
  should go
viral before the day.
   
  
   I agree.  Even though the actual even is on a specific day we'll get
   more notice if we start a few days ahead of time.
  
I could create a small page about AOO and DFD and what it means to
 us.
Much like the download page, we can assign the social platform
  meta-data
image and text to the one we're promoting AOO with.  We could then
  link
   it
to the early and day-of blog posts.
   
  
   So the idea would be that visitors could like or share that page to
   their social network?  I like that idea.  Anything