Re: Updating outdated GNOME programming books

[Simos Xenitellis]

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote:
> In my mail about the GNOME Amazon store most of the comments were
> about the outdated GNOME books which I listed here:
> http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/
> (We can change the entries so just let me know which books you think I
> should add and I'll add them.)
>
> It seems that there is now just one reasonably up to date book which
> is the book of Andrew Krause.
> Maybe it's an idea to ask the authors of the older books to license
> their text under an open license such that the community can pick up
> the text and update it. We could put it for instance on wikibooks or
> host it on gnome.org. Furthermore the GNOME foundation could print it
> at lulu.com and try to sell the books.
>
> I think this could be very benificial to GNOME because having good
> books is important if you want to attract developers.
>
> What do you think of this idea?

That's a great idea!

We can also put on lulu.com

1. the GNOME 2 User Guide,
http://library.gnome.org/users/user-guide/stable/
A PDF can be generated, it's about 160 pages.

2. the GNOME 2 System Administration Guide,
http://library.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable/
The PDF is about 75 pages.

The Accessibility Guide is about 60 pages, though it might need an
update for the content.

The documentation team should be able to generate PDF files using some
elegant stylesheet.

Simos
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Re: Become a GNOME Ambassador!

[Paul Cutler]

gnome-press-cont...@gnome.org is an alias for marketing-priv...@gnome.org

If this needs to be updated, let me know.

Paul

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Stormy Peters  wrote:

> So perhaps my question is,
>
> Is *gnome-press-cont...@gnome.org *a discussion list or a contact email
> address?
>
> Stormy
> *
> *
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Stormy Peters  wrote:
>
>> I think the gnome.org (external) and the live.gnome.org (internal)
>> websites serve different audiences.
>>
>> I think it would make most sense for the people listed on
>> http://www.gnome.org/press/ to join the mailing list 
>> h
>> ttp://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-press-team,
>> unless you have another mailing list where you are coordinating plans and
>> messages.
>>
>> Stormy
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Karl Fischer  wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 22:29, Paul Cutler wrote:
>>> > Become a GNOME Ambassador!
>>> >
>>> > The GNOME Marketing team is pleased to announce the creation of the
>>> GNOME
>>> > Press Team.  The Press Team is a subset of the Marketing team, with a
>>> focus
>>> > on tracking GNOME events worldwide, and communicating and engaging with
>>> > journalists all over the world to help spread GNOME news.
>>> >
>>> > The Press Team is responsible for tracking GNOME events and updating
>>> the
>>> > GNOME calendar, helping write press releases, talking points, and press
>>> kits
>>> > and sending them to press contacts in as many languages as possible,
>>> and
>>> > helping coordinate interviews with GNOME volunteers and journalists.
>>> >
>>> > For more information, please visit the GNOME Press Team's homepage on
>>> the
>>> > GNOME Wiki at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/PressTeam or join
>>> the
>>> > mailing list at
>>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-press-team.
>>> >
>>> > You can find upcoming GNOME Events on the GNOME wiki at
>>> > http://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents or the GNOME Community calendar at
>>> >
>>> http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=mdnrfqhbsjn37b6sgad089qmak%40group.calendar.google.com
>>> .
>>> >
>>> > Help spread the word about GNOME and join today!
>>> >
>>> > Paul Cutler
>>> > pcut...@gnome.org
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > marketing-list mailing list
>>> > marketing-list@gnome.org
>>> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> Hi there,
>>> Can I assume that http://www.gnome.org/press/ is redundant ?
>>> and that this http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/PressTeam is the
>>> now the main page ?
>>>
>>> Does this mean I have to add myself to the PressTeam ?
>>> Karl
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Karl Fischer
>>> SFD 2009 : http://is.gd/2xZQM
>>> www : http://floss.pro
>>> jid : k...@floss.pro
>>> --
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>>> marketing-list@gnome.org
>>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: Become a GNOME Ambassador!

[Stormy Peters]

So perhaps my question is,

Is *gnome-press-cont...@gnome.org *a discussion list or a contact email
address?

Stormy*
*
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Stormy Peters  wrote:

> I think the gnome.org (external) and the live.gnome.org (internal)
> websites serve different audiences.
>
> I think it would make most sense for the people listed on
> http://www.gnome.org/press/ to join the mailing list 
> h
> ttp://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-press-team,
> unless you have another mailing list where you are coordinating plans and
> messages.
>
> Stormy
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Karl Fischer  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 22:29, Paul Cutler wrote:
>> > Become a GNOME Ambassador!
>> >
>> > The GNOME Marketing team is pleased to announce the creation of the
>> GNOME
>> > Press Team.  The Press Team is a subset of the Marketing team, with a
>> focus
>> > on tracking GNOME events worldwide, and communicating and engaging with
>> > journalists all over the world to help spread GNOME news.
>> >
>> > The Press Team is responsible for tracking GNOME events and updating the
>> > GNOME calendar, helping write press releases, talking points, and press
>> kits
>> > and sending them to press contacts in as many languages as possible, and
>> > helping coordinate interviews with GNOME volunteers and journalists.
>> >
>> > For more information, please visit the GNOME Press Team's homepage on
>> the
>> > GNOME Wiki at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/PressTeam or join
>> the
>> > mailing list at http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-press-team
>> .
>> >
>> > You can find upcoming GNOME Events on the GNOME wiki at
>> > http://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents or the GNOME Community calendar at
>> >
>> http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=mdnrfqhbsjn37b6sgad089qmak%40group.calendar.google.com
>> .
>> >
>> > Help spread the word about GNOME and join today!
>> >
>> > Paul Cutler
>> > pcut...@gnome.org
>> >
>> > --
>> > marketing-list mailing list
>> > marketing-list@gnome.org
>> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Hi there,
>> Can I assume that http://www.gnome.org/press/ is redundant ?
>> and that this http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/PressTeam is the
>> now the main page ?
>>
>> Does this mean I have to add myself to the PressTeam ?
>> Karl
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Karl Fischer
>> SFD 2009 : http://is.gd/2xZQM
>> www : http://floss.pro
>> jid : k...@floss.pro
>> --
>> marketing-list mailing list
>> marketing-list@gnome.org
>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
>>
>
>
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Re: Become a GNOME Ambassador!

[Stormy Peters]

I think the gnome.org (external) and the live.gnome.org (internal) websites
serve different audiences.

I think it would make most sense for the people listed on
http://www.gnome.org/press/ to join the mailing list
h
ttp://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-press-team,
unless you have another mailing list where you are coordinating plans and
messages.

Stormy

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Karl Fischer  wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 22:29, Paul Cutler wrote:
> > Become a GNOME Ambassador!
> >
> > The GNOME Marketing team is pleased to announce the creation of the GNOME
> > Press Team.  The Press Team is a subset of the Marketing team, with a
> focus
> > on tracking GNOME events worldwide, and communicating and engaging with
> > journalists all over the world to help spread GNOME news.
> >
> > The Press Team is responsible for tracking GNOME events and updating the
> > GNOME calendar, helping write press releases, talking points, and press
> kits
> > and sending them to press contacts in as many languages as possible, and
> > helping coordinate interviews with GNOME volunteers and journalists.
> >
> > For more information, please visit the GNOME Press Team's homepage on the
> > GNOME Wiki at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/PressTeam or join the
> > mailing list at http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-press-team.
> >
> > You can find upcoming GNOME Events on the GNOME wiki at
> > http://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents or the GNOME Community calendar at
> >
> http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=mdnrfqhbsjn37b6sgad089qmak%40group.calendar.google.com
> .
> >
> > Help spread the word about GNOME and join today!
> >
> > Paul Cutler
> > pcut...@gnome.org
> >
> > --
> > marketing-list mailing list
> > marketing-list@gnome.org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
> >
> >
>
> Hi there,
> Can I assume that http://www.gnome.org/press/ is redundant ?
> and that this http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/PressTeam is the
> now the main page ?
>
> Does this mean I have to add myself to the PressTeam ?
> Karl
>
>
> --
> --
> Karl Fischer
> SFD 2009 : http://is.gd/2xZQM
> www : http://floss.pro
> jid : k...@floss.pro
> --
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> marketing-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
>
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Re: Become a GNOME Ambassador!

[Karl Fischer]

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 22:29, Paul Cutler wrote:
> Become a GNOME Ambassador!
>
> The GNOME Marketing team is pleased to announce the creation of the GNOME
> Press Team.  The Press Team is a subset of the Marketing team, with a focus
> on tracking GNOME events worldwide, and communicating and engaging with
> journalists all over the world to help spread GNOME news.
>
> The Press Team is responsible for tracking GNOME events and updating the
> GNOME calendar, helping write press releases, talking points, and press kits
> and sending them to press contacts in as many languages as possible, and
> helping coordinate interviews with GNOME volunteers and journalists.
>
> For more information, please visit the GNOME Press Team's homepage on the
> GNOME Wiki at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/PressTeam or join the
> mailing list at http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-press-team.
>
> You can find upcoming GNOME Events on the GNOME wiki at
> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents or the GNOME Community calendar at
> http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=mdnrfqhbsjn37b6sgad089qmak%40group.calendar.google.com.
>
> Help spread the word about GNOME and join today!
>
> Paul Cutler
> pcut...@gnome.org
>
> --
> marketing-list mailing list
> marketing-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
>
>

Hi there,
Can I assume that http://www.gnome.org/press/ is redundant ?
and that this http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/PressTeam is the
now the main page ?

Does this mean I have to add myself to the PressTeam ?
Karl


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Updating outdated GNOME programming books

[Jaap A. Haitsma]

In my mail about the GNOME Amazon store most of the comments were
about the outdated GNOME books which I listed here:
http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/
(We can change the entries so just let me know which books you think I
should add and I'll add them.)

It seems that there is now just one reasonably up to date book which
is the book of Andrew Krause.
Maybe it's an idea to ask the authors of the older books to license
their text under an open license such that the community can pick up
the text and update it. We could put it for instance on wikibooks or
host it on gnome.org. Furthermore the GNOME foundation could print it
at lulu.com and try to sell the books.

I think this could be very benificial to GNOME because having good
books is important if you want to attract developers.

What do you think of this idea?

Jaap
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