Re: updating http://live.gnome.org/RoadMap
Sumana Harihareswara wrote: On 03/01/2011 03:51 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: I think there's value in having http://live.gnome.org/RoadMap as a place where what's new in GNOME 3 for admins, users, developers gets summarized in a few bullet points, for developers to see. This seems like a few hours' work for someone who already knows the technical side of GNOME pretty well. Yes, we need a master list of the key changes in GNOME 3, as well as a summary of the selling points. It needs to be something that those involved in marketing the release can refer to and on which our various marketing materials can be based. This *might* be the release notes. It might be something separate and more extensive though. My plan is to start blocking out the release notes and see how they hang together. If we end up with more material than we can squeeze into the notes, we can use it for a separate master document. Lucas Rocha just suggested: I think the roadmap could be simplified and focus on major areas intead of being per module -- so that could help make the job a little simpler. Can I get a volunteer by Thursday -- preferably someone who can update this by March 10th? Once someone's done this, someone like me or Allan might even translate it into something more layperson-friendly for gnome3.org. -Sumana Lucas also notes: Jon and Allan can definitely give useful overview of the general UX roadmap; Jakub too. I'd focus on 3 things for the update. if you guys focus on those 3 areas, it will be easier to update roadmap. Shell, Settings and Platform -- if you can at least have a solid summary of the plans for those 3 things, it's a good start. then maybe just send out a call for roadmaps for other areas ... shaun will probably jump in with docs roadmap. api probably has a good overview for a11y work. mclasen would probably be the best person for a platform roadmap. (just thinking out loud here) Allan, can you take this on? The roadmap [1] appears to be the place where post 3.0 plans will be consolidated: 'We intend on updating this for 3.2 so you know what's in the plans for 3.2 (plans for the UX, settings, docs, platform, apps) by the time we release 3.0 in April 2011.' Will the existing Roadmap Gang [2] not be taking care of it? Best, Allan [1] http://live.gnome.org/RoadMap/ [2] http://live.gnome.org/RoadMap/Process#Roadmap_Gang -- Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Getting GNOME 3
Hi all, We need to decide on what instructions we want to give users for how to get this amazing new release of ours. I'd like to put this information on gnome3.org, but we might want to use it elsewhere, too. I have a few criteria I'd like to suggest for how we select the installation and distribution methods that we want to recommend: * Full GNOME 3 experience. They should include GNOME Shell, the control center, default stripes wallpaper and GTK theme (Adwaita). * High-quality experience: they should perform well and have no noticable bugs. * Ease of installation: ideally, these options should not require the use of a command line. Any other factors we should consider? I've been chasing down the relevant information for the 'big 3' distros. This is the picture as it stands: Fedora == * Full GNOME 3 by default (albeit with added birds). * They have been doing lots of GNOME 3 QA. openSUSE * 11.4 already has a GNOME 3 repo (based on the existing live image) which will allow users to install and run a full GNOME 3 experience. * No formal QA that I am aware of, but Frederic Crozat assures me that they are high quality packages. * The repo will be installable using a command line tutorial. It might be available via 1 click install, though. Ubuntu == * GNOME 3 can be installed on 11.04 using an official GNOME 3 PPA. This is uptodate and will be ready for the 11.04 release. * I've been told that the PPA is being used by the Ubuntu GNOME 3 packaging team. * The GNOME 3 PPA can be installed using the Ubuntu Software Center - no command line required (see [1]) Do these seem like appropriate options for us to be recommending to our users? Are there any others that we should consider? Best, Allan [1] http://askubuntu.com/questions/4983/what-are-ppas-and-how-do-i-use-them -- Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Getting GNOME 3
2011/3/3 Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com: Hi all, We need to decide on what instructions we want to give users for how to get this amazing new release of ours. I'd like to put this information on gnome3.org, but we might want to use it elsewhere, too. I have a few criteria I'd like to suggest for how we select the installation and distribution methods that we want to recommend: * Full GNOME 3 experience. They should include GNOME Shell, the control center, default stripes wallpaper and GTK theme (Adwaita). * High-quality experience: they should perform well and have no noticable bugs. * Ease of installation: ideally, these options should not require the use of a command line. Any other factors we should consider? Have you looked at Gentoo ? They contain also a repository[1] with GNOME 3. I think we should add specific instructions with in case of: - Fedora, a Fedora 15 alpha iso image or upgrade from F14. - OpenSUSE, a one click install for the repository. - Ubuntu, a link for apt to add the repository to the sources.list - Other distros, report to us if there's any packages available or use jhbuild. Probably we should use any newbies guide for jhbuild. After this we should make sure that if there is any installation problem to report to distros and not to GNOME. Cheers Luis 1 - http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/gnome.git;a=summary -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
GNOME 3 DVD, help needed
Hi, Novell will produce GNOME-branded LiveDVD for GNOME 3.0, and will give them to the community. To make it's all perfect, we need a few things: + test the GNOME 3 images produced by Fred Crozat, and report everything that's wrong or missing (which cool app are we missing, where is the branding not good, etc.) + collect some marketing material to put on the DVD (slides, banners, etc. about GNOME 3) + create a DVD sleeve. We can use the openSUSE ones as a basis, to make sure we have the right format: http://gitorious.org/opensuse/art/trees/master/CD-sleeve The DVD sleeve is the thing that could block everything, so that's the most important part, I'd say :-) Any volunteers? (Ideally, to thank Novell, we'd leave some kind of Powered by openSUSE or Geeko head logo somewhere, like on the boot screen and in a corner of the DVD sleeve) Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME 3 DVD, help needed
Hey Vincent, Fred, Great job on the live CD, GNOME really needs this. Now, if I find bugs on the LiveDVD while testing that are not related to GNOME code, where should we report them? Cheers, Alberto Ruiz 2011/3/3 Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org: Hi, Novell will produce GNOME-branded LiveDVD for GNOME 3.0, and will give them to the community. To make it's all perfect, we need a few things: + test the GNOME 3 images produced by Fred Crozat, and report everything that's wrong or missing (which cool app are we missing, where is the branding not good, etc.) + collect some marketing material to put on the DVD (slides, banners, etc. about GNOME 3) + create a DVD sleeve. We can use the openSUSE ones as a basis, to make sure we have the right format: http://gitorious.org/opensuse/art/trees/master/CD-sleeve The DVD sleeve is the thing that could block everything, so that's the most important part, I'd say :-) Any volunteers? (Ideally, to thank Novell, we'd leave some kind of Powered by openSUSE or Geeko head logo somewhere, like on the boot screen and in a corner of the DVD sleeve) Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Un saludo, Alberto Ruiz -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME 3 DVD, help needed
Le jeudi 03 mars 2011, à 15:01 +, Alberto Ruiz a écrit : Hey Vincent, Fred, Great job on the live CD, GNOME really needs this. Now, if I find bugs on the LiveDVD while testing that are not related to GNOME code, where should we report them? Ideally, you'd report them to openSUSE (currently in bugzilla.novell.com), but if it's only a small amount of bugs, you can tell me directly. Note that the current image is based on openSUSE 11.3, and it will soon switch to openSUSE 11.4, so those kind of bugs might be fixed already :-) Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME 3 DVD, help needed
Vincent Untz wrote: Hi, Novell will produce GNOME-branded LiveDVD for GNOME 3.0, and will give them to the community. Awesome! To make it's all perfect, we need a few things: + test the GNOME 3 images produced by Fred Crozat, and report everything that's wrong or missing (which cool app are we missing, where is the branding not good, etc.) + collect some marketing material to put on the DVD (slides, banners, etc. about GNOME 3) + create a DVD sleeve. We can use the openSUSE ones as a basis, to make sure we have the right format: http://gitorious.org/opensuse/art/trees/master/CD-sleeve The DVD sleeve is the thing that could block everything, so that's the most important part, I'd say :-) Any volunteers? I'm sure we can get something sorted. When do you need it by? What are the dimensions/format? I presume it will be printed in colour? (Ideally, to thank Novell, we'd leave some kind of Powered by openSUSE or Geeko head logo somewhere, like on the boot screen and in a corner of the DVD sleeve) GNOME on the front, Novell on the back, perhaps? Have you got a link to Novell branding assets we can use? Allan -- Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME 3 DVD, help needed
Le jeudi 03 mars 2011, à 17:29 +, Allan Day a écrit : Vincent Untz wrote: + create a DVD sleeve. We can use the openSUSE ones as a basis, to make sure we have the right format: http://gitorious.org/opensuse/art/trees/master/CD-sleeve The DVD sleeve is the thing that could block everything, so that's the most important part, I'd say :-) Any volunteers? I'm sure we can get something sorted. When do you need it by? What are the dimensions/format? I presume it will be printed in colour? Let's say we need for April 6th, the day of 3.0 :-) Our current target is to have everything ready for April 11th, but if we can do earlier, it's better, obviously... For the dimensions/format, we should just use the svg from openSUSE as a basis (see link above). Yes, it'll be printed in colour. (Ideally, to thank Novell, we'd leave some kind of Powered by openSUSE or Geeko head logo somewhere, like on the boot screen and in a corner of the DVD sleeve) GNOME on the front, Novell on the back, perhaps? Have you got a link to Novell branding assets we can use? s/Novell/openSUSE/ really :-) http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Artwork_brand Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
GNOME 3 videos
We launch GNOME 3 in about a month. Very exciting! I'm looking at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/Gnome3In30Seconds and http://jasondclinton.livejournal.com/82744.html -- I'm downloading some of the videos, but my connection is really slow right now so I can't judge whether any of them are ready to go up on gnome3.org. (Also, Jason said they'd need to be refilmed about now anyway -- updated, I assume.) The marketing roadmap http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/MarketingRoadmap suggests that I should reach out ASAP to the translation team to make translations of the video scripts -- that is, the words that the narrators are saying, and any important words visible on the screen. That way, once we have re-filmed videos with up-to-date installations of GNOME 3, the translators can use http://universalsubtitles.org and easily copy and paste their translations into the subtitling interface. So I need to know two things: 1) Are there volunteers who will make these videos? We want to finish post-production work on GNOME 3 demo videos by about 20 March, so people should really start making the videos now. Jason might be able to do some but we can't ask him to do all of them! 2) We have about 6 sample scripts for Gnome3In30Seconds ... are they final enough to give to translators? If not, I suggest people edit them before Monday so I can give them to the i18n team as soon as possible. -Sumana -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list