Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign

2011-11-28 Thread Viktor Machek 
Dear Juanjo Marín

Sorry if I misunderstood about what we want now to speak. I thought that we
want to approach new opportunities for Gnome 3 to the people and at the
same time looking for new people who would be involved.
Accessibility and user friendly desktop from my perspective are the same,
so I wrote it that way.
Once again apologize, I understand the current needs of Gnome 3 a little
differently.


best!

Viktor


2011/11/28 Juanjo Marín 

> ___
> > De: Viktor Machek 
> >Para: marketing-list@gnome.org
> >Enviado: lunes 28 de noviembre de 2011 21:01
> >Asunto: Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign
> >
> >
> >Hi all.
> >I apologize for entering into the discussion, but in my
> opinion should be presented as a Gnome user friendly desktop. Version 3 has
> made a great leap forward, it is very technologically advanced desktop. Now
> we should think how to show people that it is usable. So I think it would
> be
> preferable (except slogan User friendly desktop) directly represent users
> and show their work with Gnome. Examples are the best.
> >
> >In summary:
> >- User friendly desktop for all - just a slogan to rule them all :-)
> >- Short video clips and examples of users work with gnome
> >- "Why and for what I use Gnome?" "On what computer / laptop /
> monitor usingGnome" direct answers and articles users
> >
> >This should be part of a campaign that could be directly targeted in two
> directions: to show benefits of regular Gnome users and
> also invite them to participate to improve the user experience when using
> the Gnome desktop.
> >
> >What should be the main objective of this campaign? New users of Gnome
> or greater involvement in the preparation of new
> friends next release of Gnome?
> >
> >
> >Best regards
> >
> >
> >Viktor Machek - fan of Gnome :-)
> >(Czech rep.)
>
> Viktor,
>
>
> I am a little bit confused with your message. GNOME is always moving in
> the direction of having a user friendly desktop. The main purporse of this
> campaign is that  we want to extend the new features to everyone, including
> users of all ages and abilities becasue we don't want to left people
> behind. So I think, under my understanding, that your message is not
> related to the subject of this thread.
>
> After said that, the gnome 3 page [1] has the kind of videos and
> information I think you want to find. Jason Clinton made these fantastic
> videos for GNOME 3.0, but unfortunately AFAIK nobody has volunteered for
> doing more videos since them. The new feaures are presented basically in
> the release notes [2]
>
>
> [1] http://www.gnome.org/gnome-3/
> [2] http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.2/
>
> Cheers,
>
>-- Juanjo Marin
>
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Annual Report and Marketing Hackfest

2011-11-28 Thread Brian Cameron 


Marketing Team:

There has not been much discussion about the Annual Report[1]
recently.  The last time was about a month ago when Juanjo Marín
suggested content[2].  The Annual Report Group Wiki[3] has not
been updated since 2008.  There is an outline for the report,
but it seems only one article has been written.[4]  As the year is
reaching the end, I think we should be further along.

There has been discussion about having a Marketing hackfest[5].  If
the hackfest were held in Brno over February 17-21, would that be too
late to plan to put the finishing touches on the report and start
distribution?

The board is currently talking with the Brno organizers about making
space available for additional hackfests.  There may be some
collaborative benefit in working on the Annual Report at the same
location as the Docs Hackfest.  Though, if the Marketing Team wanted
to organize a hackfest at a different date/location, that might also
be worth considering.  Especially if people think an earlier hackfest
might better benefit projects like the Annual Report.

It would be great if people working on the Annual Report could provide
an update.  Do we need help getting people to write content?

Brian


[1]
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2011-October/msg00015.html
[2]
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2011-October/msg00072.html
[3]
https://live.gnome.org/AnnualReportGroup
[4]
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/AnnualReport/AnnualReport2011
[5]
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2011-November/msg0.html
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Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign

2011-11-28 Thread Juanjo Marín 
___
> De: Viktor Machek 
>Para: marketing-list@gnome.org 
>Enviado: lunes 28 de noviembre de 2011 21:01
>Asunto: Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign
> 
>
>Hi all.
>I apologize for entering into the discussion, but in my 
>opinion should be presented as a Gnome user friendly desktop. Version 3 has 
>made a great leap forward, it is very technologically advanced desktop. Now we 
>should think how to show people that it is usable. So I think it would be 
>preferable (except slogan User friendly desktop) directly represent users 
>and show their work with Gnome. Examples are the best.
>
>In summary:
>- User friendly desktop for all - just a slogan to rule them all :-)
>- Short video clips and examples of users work with gnome
>- "Why and for what I use Gnome?" "On what computer / laptop / 
>monitor usingGnome" direct answers and articles users
>
>This should be part of a campaign that could be directly targeted in two 
>directions: to show benefits of regular Gnome users and 
>also invite them to participate to improve the user experience when using 
>the Gnome desktop.
>
>What should be the main objective of this campaign? New users of Gnome 
>or greater involvement in the preparation of new friends next release of Gnome?
>
>
>Best regards
>
>
>Viktor Machek - fan of Gnome :-)
>(Czech rep.)

Viktor,


I am a little bit confused with your message. GNOME is always moving in the 
direction of having a user friendly desktop. The main purporse of this campaign 
is that  we want to extend the new features to everyone, including users of all 
ages and abilities becasue we don't want to left people behind. So I think, 
under my understanding, that your message is not related to the subject of this 
thread.

After said that, the gnome 3 page [1] has the kind of videos and information I 
think you want to find. Jason Clinton made these fantastic videos for GNOME 
3.0, but unfortunately AFAIK nobody has volunteered for doing more videos since 
them. The new feaures are presented basically in the release notes [2]


[1] http://www.gnome.org/gnome-3/
[2] http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.2/

Cheers,

   -- Juanjo Marin
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Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign

2011-11-28 Thread Juanjo Marín 
- Mensaje original -

> De: Dave Neary 
> Para: marketing-list@gnome.org

> On 11/28/2011 08:04 PM, Karen Sandler wrote:
>>  jjmarin and I are working on this text to promote the FoG campaign we hope
>>  to launch next week. How can we improve it? Also, do you like "Make 
> 2012
>>  the year of accessibility for GNOME" as a short tagline?
> 
> I hate to say it, but I'm not sure if Accessibility as an abstract concept 
> will sell.
> 
> Do we have some examples of GNOME users whose lives were made measurably 
> better 
> because of the a11y work we've done? Show-cases work wonders.
> 
>>  With your help we can start tackling those goals. Let's kickstart 2012 
> as
>>  the Year of Accessibility at GNOME and make the most usable desktop
>>  environment the most accessible desktop environment!
> 
> Do we have any specific improvements (and the reasons why they're important 
> - or the people for whom they're important) to point to?
> 


Hi,

I think is worth to crossposting the following message from the marketing list 
to
the accessibility list to get some feedback from users about how useful the 
accessibilty features of GNOME are in their lives and why it is important
for them to keep working on this.

Basically, there are a lot of accessibility tasks to be done in several areas. 
There
are features to be implemented, for example, the gnome-shell Magnifier track 
focus 
and caret, and more obscure issues in the platform, like peformance 
Improvements 
which are important for getting a snapier user experience, just to name a 
couple of
them. There are many tasks in the accessibilty roadmap [1] haven't been done yet
because a lack of resources.

Cheers,


   -- Juanjo Marin


[1] Two year 2010-2012 accessibilty 
roadmap. https://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/Roadmap

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Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign

2011-11-28 Thread Viktor Machek 
Hi all.
I apologize for entering into the discussion, but in my opinion should
be presented
as a Gnome user friendly desktop. Version 3 has made a great leap forward, it
is very technologically advanced desktop. Now we should think how to show
people that it is usable. So I think it would be preferable (except slogan
User friendly desktop) directly represent users and show their work with
Gnome. Examples are the best.

In summary:
- User friendly desktop for all - just a slogan to rule them all :-)
- Short video clips and examples of users work with gnome
- "Why and for what I use Gnome?" "On what computer / laptop / monitor using
Gnome" direct answers and articles users

This should be part of a campaign that could be directly targeted in two
directions: to show benefits of regular Gnome users and also invite them to
participate to improve the user experience when using the Gnome desktop.

What should be the main objective of this campaign? New users of Gnome or
greater involvement in the preparation of new friends next release of Gnome?

Best regards

Viktor Machek - fan of Gnome :-)
(Czech rep.)

ps. ...and sorry for my English..

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 20:22, Dave Neary  wrote:

> Hi Karen,
>
>
>
> On 11/28/2011 08:04 PM, Karen Sandler wrote:
>
>> jjmarin and I are working on this text to promote the FoG campaign we hope
>> to launch next week. How can we improve it? Also, do you like "Make 2012
>> the year of accessibility for GNOME" as a short tagline?
>>
>
> I hate to say it, but I'm not sure if Accessibility as an abstract concept
> will sell.
>
> Do we have some examples of GNOME users whose lives were made measurably
> better because of the a11y work we've done? Show-cases work wonders.
>
>
>  With your help we can start tackling those goals. Let's kickstart 2012 as
>> the Year of Accessibility at GNOME and make the most usable desktop
>> environment the most accessible desktop environment!
>>
>
> Do we have any specific improvements (and the reasons why they're
> important - or the people for whom they're important) to point to?
>
> Cheers,
> Dave.
>
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Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign

2011-11-28 Thread Dave Neary 

Hi Karen,


On 11/28/2011 08:04 PM, Karen Sandler wrote:

jjmarin and I are working on this text to promote the FoG campaign we hope
to launch next week. How can we improve it? Also, do you like "Make 2012
the year of accessibility for GNOME" as a short tagline?


I hate to say it, but I'm not sure if Accessibility as an abstract 
concept will sell.


Do we have some examples of GNOME users whose lives were made measurably 
better because of the a11y work we've done? Show-cases work wonders.



With your help we can start tackling those goals. Let's kickstart 2012 as
the Year of Accessibility at GNOME and make the most usable desktop
environment the most accessible desktop environment!


Do we have any specific improvements (and the reasons why they're 
important - or the people for whom they're important) to point to?


Cheers,
Dave.

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draft for Friends of GNOME campaign

2011-11-28 Thread Karen Sandler 
jjmarin and I are working on this text to promote the FoG campaign we hope
to launch next week. How can we improve it? Also, do you like "Make 2012
the year of accessibility for GNOME" as a short tagline?

karen


GNOME has held accessibility amongst its core values from the project's
inception. Because of this commitment, along with the efforts of many
dedicated developers, GNOME 2 became one of the most accessible free
desktop environments

With the advent of GNOME 3, we have started down an exciting new road in
terms of usability, a road we want to extend to everyone, including users
of all ages and abilities. The GNOME Accessibility team is working hard to
accomplish this; however, we have fewer resources than in the past and
many goals yet to achieve in order to make GNOME 3 compellingly
accessible.

With your help we can start tackling those goals. Let's kickstart 2012 as
the Year of Accessibility at GNOME and make the most usable desktop
environment the most accessible desktop environment!







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