Re: GNOME Store

2010-04-28 Thread Hylke Bons
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, den 28.04.2010, 11:02 +0200 schrieb Dave Neary:
 If we must decide on a t-shirt design to drop (and we're not there yet),
 the House of Monkeys T would be my preference.

 Heh. That's exactly the one that I have gotten the most positive
 comments (cute etc) and conversation starts (what is GNOME?) for.

 andre

Yep, it's an awesome design!

Hylke
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Re: GNOME - Gnome

2010-04-07 Thread Hylke Bons
 Yes. I also think its time to start calling it Gnome.

You can call it whatever you want.

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Re: GNOME - Gnome

2010-04-02 Thread Hylke Bons
Hi,

I am very much against this.

Gnome reminds of the the imaginary tiny creatures. At least you can
see GNOME is an acronym, and you can guess it doesn't have anything
to do with those.
If the argument is that the acronym isn't appropriate anymore, I
suggest finding a new a new one.
Also Gnome is visually very unpleasing. The GNOME type in the logo
looks very good.

I'd rather go with finding a new name than changing the case.

Hylke

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote:
 At the November hackfest, we briefly discussed and were all enthusiastically
 in support of changing the case of GNOME branding from GNOME to Gnome. I
 have floated this idea with others over the past few months and haven't
 gotten any negative feedback. What about others? Have you discussed this
 with others and what were their feelings?
 Just to be clear, no other part of our branding would be changed under this
 proposal.
 If we're going to do this, 3.0 seems like the perfect opportunity. I think
 that we should decide how we feel as the Marketing Team leading up to the
 Zaragoza, Spain hackfest and try and come to a final decision by then.

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Re: GNOME - Gnome

2010-04-02 Thread Hylke Bons
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Alex Launi alex.la...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Hylke Bons hylkeb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Gnome reminds of the the imaginary tiny creatures.

 So what? Gnomes are adorable, intelligent creatures. They believe in strong
 communities, and wear silly hats. We should be thrilled to be associated
 with such creates.

Well it would be nice if we knew what it said on the tin.


 At least you can
 see GNOME is an acronym, and you can guess it doesn't have anything
 to do with those.

 GNOME is a horrible acronym. GNU Network Object Model Environment. WHAT???
 Seriously, what the hell does that mean?

Looks like you didn't read my whole reply.

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Re: Do-Gooders and Other Free License Recipients...

2009-10-15 Thread Hylke Bons
Nothing inkscape cannot do. :)
We just need to create a base library of widgets.

I think what would be more important than the authoring software is to
somehow incorporate UI design in the OSS design process.
There are fery few projects at the moment that do this. A good example of
this is GIMP ( http://gimp-brainstorm.blogspot.com/ ). Many people are
submitting gimp mockups with their ideas of what could be better. And it
works. Many of the ideas have found their way into GIMP.

On the Moblin team, we are also looking into ways of how to make our design
process more open and engage the community in different ways.

Hylke


On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Guy Lunardi gluna...@novell.com wrote:

 Roberto,

 This would be fantastic! I am a firm believer in mockups and have been
 using Balsamiq Mockups for quite some time now. I am quite happy with
 their software.

 Stormy suggested we reach out to the usability team to see what they
 think.

 To me mockups have a significant potential marketing value. Having
 documentation elements early is great to convey the potential of GNOME
 software.

 Best regards,
 -Guy

 On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 17:48 +0200, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
  Balsamiq would be open, maybe if this makes sense we might consider to
  let people know GNOME uses their product, and get free licenses from
  them. Let me know if you want me to help with this, I know the
  company.
 
  Best,
 
  Roberto
 
  2009/10/11 Guy Lunardi gluna...@novell.com:
   All,
  
   While I realize that their software doesn't use any GNOME technologies,
   it is still a very useful tool that I personally use often for
 projects.
  
   I was wondering if anyone thought that contacting Balsamiq and asking
   them to consider donating licenses to GNOME Foundation members would be
   useful?
   http://www.balsamiq.com/products/mockups
  
   Having used their software for quite some time, I know that the
 projects
   we used it for had a much great user experience focus during the early
   development cycles because of it.
  
   It might be a great opportunity for GNOME to increase its emphasis on
   user experience. We could for example use this software as part of some
   of our outreach programs (collect feedback earlier on designs).
  
   Please let me know what you think.
  
   Best regards,
   -Guy

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Re: Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo

2008-10-29 Thread Hylke Bons
It's quite funny to see how GNOME HIG advises to avoid body parts, but
the actual GNOME logo is a foot(print).
Do people in Thailand give the same reaction if the logo was a shoe? :)
If not http://tango.freedesktop.org/favicon.ico could be an option.

Hylke

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 I have thought about this issue for a while whether it
 should be raised or not, as the logo has been in use
 for a long time. And I'm not sure if it's ever discussed
 anywhere about the cultural issue with the GNOME's
 foot logo, which may obstruct GNOME promotion in
 some way.

 In Thai culture, and I'm pretty sure also in the nearby
 regions, showing foot is considered rude, as it's the
 lowest part of the body. And a variation of the word
 'foot' in Thai is used for scolding, in the tone close to
 f**k or b*tch in English.

 I have had hard times introducing GNOME to Thai people
 who never know about it before, and their reactions
 are awkward when seeing the foot logo. I have to
 explain that it's a footprint, not the foot itself. But that
 doesn't help much, as footprint also indicates treading
 with a foot.

 Some people simply refuse GNOME with the reason
 that it's impolite.

 That sometimes makes me feel uncomfortable to
 promote GNOME to new users as-is, or with
 distributions that try to keep upstream look-and-feels
 like Debian. But with Ubuntu or Fedora, where the
 main menu logo is replaced with something else,
 that's more OK. Just avoid letting them see the animated
 foot on Epiphany or Nautilus, until they are familiar with
 GNOME enough.

 I don't know if this is an issue for other cultures.
 Just want to raise it for awareness on an obstacle.

 Should there be an alternative logo for GNOME?
 For example, using a gnome head instead is OK.

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