Re: GNOME Store
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Andre Klapper wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, den 28.04.2010, 11:02 +0200 schrieb Dave Neary:
>> If we must decide on a t-shirt design to drop (and we're not there yet),
>> the House of Monkeys T would be my preference.
>
> Heh. That's exactly the one that I have gotten the most positive
> comments ("cute" etc) and conversation starts ("what is GNOME?") for.
>
> andre
Yep, it's an awesome design!
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Re: GNOME -> Gnome
> Yes. I also think its time to start calling it "Gnome". You can call it whatever you want. Hylke -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME -> Gnome
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Alex Launi wrote: > On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Hylke Bons wrote: >> >> "Gnome" reminds of the the imaginary tiny creatures. > > So what? Gnomes are adorable, intelligent creatures. They believe in strong > communities, and wear silly hats. We should be thrilled to be associated > with such creates. Well it would be nice if we knew what it said on the tin. >> >> At least you can >> see "GNOME" is an acronym, and you can guess it doesn't have anything >> to do with those. > > GNOME is a horrible acronym. GNU Network Object Model Environment. WHAT??? > Seriously, what the hell does that mean? Looks like you didn't read my whole reply. Hylke -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME -> Gnome
Hi, I am very much against this. "Gnome" reminds of the the imaginary tiny creatures. At least you can see "GNOME" is an acronym, and you can guess it doesn't have anything to do with those. If the argument is that the acronym isn't appropriate anymore, I suggest finding a new a new one. Also "Gnome" is visually very unpleasing. The "GNOME" type in the logo looks very good. I'd rather go with finding a new name than changing the case. Hylke On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > At the November hackfest, we briefly discussed and were all enthusiastically > in support of changing the case of GNOME branding from GNOME to Gnome. I > have floated this idea with others over the past few months and haven't > gotten any negative feedback. What about others? Have you discussed this > with others and what were their feelings? > Just to be clear, no other part of our branding would be changed under this > proposal. > If we're going to do this, 3.0 seems like the perfect opportunity. I think > that we should decide how we feel as the Marketing Team leading up to the > Zaragoza, Spain hackfest and try and come to a final decision by then. > > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > > -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME 3 Marketing - GNOME Shell
> * Final visual appearance. GNOME 3 will have an integrated visual > look including the appearance of the shell panel and overview, > window decorations, notification icons, window borders, and > possibly some amount of changes to the widget theme as well. The art team has been working on this (in collaboration with shell designers) and we can release some teasers if you'd like. Hylke -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Summary of responses to round one questions about 3.0
How does "Seth, who we had [...]" and "No one from Shell replied. [...]" align with "Please know that I will make every attempt to keep your answer in confidence"? Hylke On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi Jason, > > Jason D. Clinton wrote: >> Out of 9 attendees who blogged on the UX Hackfest and were emailed, 5 >> responded. The email sent was the following: >> >> I am writing you this email on behalf of the GNOME Marketing >> Committee and because you were a UX Hackfest attendee. >> >> The GNOME Marketing Committee is deeply concerned about the >> coherence of our message to the public about what the 3.0 release >> will be. Up until the UX Hackfest, that message was coherent: GNOME >> Shell with deep integration with presence management and time-based >> file management. Now, the Committee does not know what to tell the >> public. The Committee has empowered me to gather opinions about what >> attendees believe will be in 3.0. >> >> Please answer the following four questions by one week from the time >> of this writing. Feel free to make your answer as short as you >> please: a one sentence answer is sufficient. Please know that I will >> make every attempt to keep your answer in confidence; however, I >> will provide a summary of the opinions of all attendees to the >> Committee. > > Are you sur you couldn't have sounded a bit more formal??? > > The language is a bit intimidating & impersonal, no? "deeply concerned", > "The Committee has empowered me", "Please answer the following questions > by one week from the time of writing"... > > I just wonder if it wouldn't have been more inducive to creating a > longer-lasting relationship with the designers to say something like: > > "Hi! > > I noticed that you were at the UX hackfest & blogged about it. The > marketing team met recently, and we were wondering if any of what has > come out of the UX hackfest will get implemented for GNOME 3.0, if > you're working on refining any designs & getting them implemented, or > whether they're still in the ideas stage. We've noticed expectations > growing about what will be delivered in 3.0 since the hackfest, and we > just want to make sure that the expectations stal aligned with reality. > > Would you mind answering a few questions to help us out, please?" > > Followed by questions about what the person you're emailing is doing, > and with whom, rather than general questions about the features in the > product, and how that mighht relate to previously uinanticipated > features in GNOME 3.0. > > I'm just wondering whether response rate & answer quality & usefulness > might have improved with a friendlier email. > > Cheers, > Dave. > > -- > Dave Neary > GNOME Foundation member > dne...@gnome.org > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Do-Gooders and Other Free License Recipients...
Nothing inkscape cannot do. :) We just need to create a base library of widgets. I think what would be more important than the authoring software is to somehow incorporate UI design in the OSS design process. There are fery few projects at the moment that do this. A good example of this is GIMP ( http://gimp-brainstorm.blogspot.com/ ). Many people are submitting gimp mockups with their ideas of what could be better. And it works. Many of the ideas have found their way into GIMP. On the Moblin team, we are also looking into ways of how to make our design process more open and engage the community in different ways. Hylke On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Guy Lunardi wrote: > Roberto, > > This would be fantastic! I am a firm believer in mockups and have been > using Balsamiq Mockups for quite some time now. I am quite happy with > their software. > > Stormy suggested we reach out to the usability team to see what they > think. > > To me mockups have a significant potential marketing value. Having > documentation elements early is great to convey the potential of GNOME > software. > > Best regards, > -Guy > > On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 17:48 +0200, Roberto Galoppini wrote: > > Balsamiq would be open, maybe if this makes sense we might consider to > > let people know GNOME uses their product, and get free licenses from > > them. Let me know if you want me to help with this, I know the > > company. > > > > Best, > > > > Roberto > > > > 2009/10/11 Guy Lunardi : > > > All, > > > > > > While I realize that their software doesn't use any GNOME technologies, > > > it is still a very useful tool that I personally use often for > projects. > > > > > > I was wondering if anyone thought that contacting Balsamiq and asking > > > them to consider donating licenses to GNOME Foundation members would be > > > useful? > > > http://www.balsamiq.com/products/mockups > > > > > > Having used their software for quite some time, I know that the > projects > > > we used it for had a much great user experience focus during the early > > > development cycles because of it. > > > > > > It might be a great opportunity for GNOME to increase its emphasis on > > > user experience. We could for example use this software as part of some > > > of our outreach programs (collect feedback earlier on designs). > > > > > > Please let me know what you think. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > -Guy > > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo
It's quite funny to see how GNOME HIG advises to avoid body parts, but the actual GNOME logo is a foot(print). Do people in Thailand give the same reaction if the logo was a shoe? :) If not http://tango.freedesktop.org/favicon.ico could be an option. Hylke On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I have thought about this issue for a while whether it > should be raised or not, as the logo has been in use > for a long time. And I'm not sure if it's ever discussed > anywhere about the cultural issue with the GNOME's > foot logo, which may obstruct GNOME promotion in > some way. > > In Thai culture, and I'm pretty sure also in the nearby > regions, showing foot is considered rude, as it's the > lowest part of the body. And a variation of the word > 'foot' in Thai is used for scolding, in the tone close to > "f**k" or "b*tch" in English. > > I have had hard times introducing GNOME to Thai people > who never know about it before, and their reactions > are awkward when seeing the foot logo. I have to > explain that it's a footprint, not the foot itself. But that > doesn't help much, as footprint also indicates treading > with a foot. > > Some people simply refuse GNOME with the reason > that it's impolite. > > That sometimes makes me feel uncomfortable to > promote GNOME to new users as-is, or with > distributions that try to keep upstream look-and-feels > like Debian. But with Ubuntu or Fedora, where the > main menu logo is replaced with something else, > that's more OK. Just avoid letting them see the animated > foot on Epiphany or Nautilus, until they are familiar with > GNOME enough. > > I don't know if this is an issue for other cultures. > Just want to raise it for awareness on an obstacle. > > Should there be an alternative logo for GNOME? > For example, using a gnome head instead is OK. > > Regards, > -- > Theppitak Karoonboonyanan > http://linux.thai.net/~thep/ > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
