Re: GNOME Press Team: usage of gnome-press-team list

[Paul Cutler]

We might want to ping Stormy about it - she had done a lot of work
setting up the press team and had some good ideas on how we create a
team that is available when opportunities arise about talking to the
press.  Where the marketing team may be focused more at times on
promotion of GNOME, this was almost a sub-team that might get press
training and stuff like that.

I think this was tied to an Ambassador-like program that was
brainstormed as well.

Paul

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Allan Day  wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Dave Neary  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 12/01/2011 12:20 AM, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote:
>>>
>>> I noticed that gnome-press-team list has very few members and little
>>> discussion. People who have recently been doing a lot of writing in GNOME,
>>> such as Karen and Allan, are not subscribed to it. Last discussion happened
>>> in April, with marketing-list CCed. It's a public list, and seems to have
>>> been superseded by marketing-list. So how about we make it obsolete?
>>
>> I wasn't even aware of the team - traditionally, marketing-list was for
>> everything public, and marketing-private for everything private, so I agree
>> with folding gnome-press-team into marketing-list.
>
> Didn't know about it either! Closing the list sounds like the right thing to 
> do.
>
> I actually think that merging the web list [1] into the marketing list
> would be a good idea too. Web is an essential part of marketing and
> our efforts feel too fragmented at the moment.
>
> Allan
>
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Re: Q4 Update

[Paul Cutler]

I didn't see it on the wiki page[1] per the original call for updates.

Paul

[1] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/QuarterlyReports/2010/Q4

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Brian Cameron  wrote:
>
> Paul:
>
>
> On 03/21/11 03:14 PM, Paul Cutler wrote:
>>
>> Better late than never, I've finished the Q4 update.  If anyone has
>> time to proof it for any big spelling or grammar mistakes, I'd
>> appreciate the help.
>>
>> http://foundation.gnome.org/reports/gnome-report-2010-Q4.html
>
> I wrote a Q4 board report, but do not see it on the above website.  See
> here for what I wrote:
>
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2011-January/msg00124.html
>
> Any reason this was not included, or did it just get overlooked?
>
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Q4 Update

[Paul Cutler]

Better late than never, I've finished the Q4 update.  If anyone has
time to proof it for any big spelling or grammar mistakes, I'd
appreciate the help.

Thanks!

Paul

http://foundation.gnome.org/reports/gnome-report-2010-Q4.html
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GNOME 3.0 Release Notes

[Paul Cutler]

It's that time to start working on and planning the GNOME 3.0 release notes.

I've done the last couple of release notes, and with the importance of
GNOME 3.0, I'm hoping for some help.  :)

I wouldn't mind re-thinking the release notes, for a couple of
reasons.  Some random thoughts:

1 - This is a huge release.  We haven't had a .0 release in, what, 8 or 9 years?
2 - The UI is totally different - we're going to need lots of pretty screenshots
3 - There are some fairly significant changes in the behavior - from
suspend to maximizing windows to applets - we need to think about how
we present these.
4 - The release notes are going to be dissected and read from our
users to major publications
5 - We need to start thinking about how we prioritize what's in the
release notes - are the current sections we have the right ones?

I know I don't have all these answers!  But we don't have tons of time
to brainstorm either, so we'll need to discuss and then start writing.

One thing I've always wanted to but never had the time was to to
something like Mairin Duffy blogged about a long time, which is a "1
page" version of the release notes[2] too (though it turned out to be
3 pages!)  I think we could have our more detailed, formal release
notes and this.  (See link).

Some facts about the release notes:

1 - They are written in Docbook in the release-notes module in Git[3]
- You don't need to know Git or Docbook - I'm happy to get copy in to
Docbook and commit - Just need to write!
2 - The development calendar is on live.gnome.org[4] (We're a bit
behind - according to that we should have started Feb 7th!)
3 - fredp will help with getting them on library.gnome.org for review
and I can password protect it once they're up
4 - You can see the release notes for 2.32 here to get a feel for how
they've been done in the past [5]

Paul

[1] http://live.gnome.org/ReleaseNotes
[2] http://mairin.wordpress.com/2009/11/13/fedora-12-one-page-release-notes-pdf/
[3] http://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/
[4] http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointNinetyone
[5] http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.32/
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GNOME Hires 2 Marketing Contractors

[Paul Cutler]

The GNOME Foundation recently announced that we were looking for help
with GNOME marketing activities and were looking to hire a contractor
to fill the position.

I'm pleased to announce that the GNOME Foundation has hired Allan Day
and Sumana Harihareswara to fill this role.

Allan and Sumana will be working with the GNOME community on a number
of activities as the GNOME 3.0 launch approaches.  Allan and Sumana
have both been active in the GNOME community and we are confident that
working together and with the community we will be able to spread the
news of GNOME's latest release far and wide.  The contract position
runs through the end of April.

Welcome Allan and Sumana!

Paul Cutler
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Re: 3.0 parties - amazing job!

[Paul Cutler]

I could use some help with photos too - for next year annual's report
it would be great to get some CC-BY licensed photos to include in the
report.

Paul

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:39 AM, Allan Day  wrote:
> Pockey Lam wrote:
>> > It would be great if we define a tag for those medias. How about
>> > define tag as :  GNOME3_launch_party
>> >
>>
>> The official tag has been announced, which is #gnome3parties, I
>> already informed all the party organizers by email as well.
>> We asked them to blog / tag pictures, send their blog links / uploaded
>> picture links to me or to gugmasters-list(at)gnome(dot)org. We will
>> publish those event pictures and blog links in the gnome3.org website
>> to share with everybody.
>
> I should have known that you'd already be on top of this, Pockey!
>
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Re: Fwd: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01).

[Paul Cutler]

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 3:08 AM, Dave Neary  wrote:
> Paul, how is the GNOME Store on Zazzle coming along? I'm all for
> supporting merchandising agreements we make, and the FreeWear guys are
> cool, but I don't want to divert revenue away from us, if we have a
> better option.
>
> If the Zazzle store is operational, we should leverage that. And we
> should have some GNOME 3 goodies for sale for the release date!

The Zazzle store has been operational for almost a year now.

Zazzle does a good job of selling in multiple currencies, but some
users prefer other, sometimes local, options.  The Board works with
other companies who also pay us a royalty and we don't have issues
with multiple stores, as long as they sign our trademark agreements
and we have a workable business relationship, which we do with
Freewear.

Getting some GNOME 3 stuff up is a good idea, the t-shirt contest
should be announced in the next day or two, and those will be added.
I'll ping Andreas as well.

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GNOME Corporate Sponsor Brainstorming

[Paul Cutler]

Hi all,

The board has been talking for a while, and companies have asked for,
other ways to sponsor GNOME outside of the Advisory Board.  Diego
kicked off a discussion on the marketing list about a year ago, but I
wasn't able to quickly find the email.

First, some background:  the GNOME Advisory Board[1] is made up of
partners and sponsors who help sponsor GNOME financially.

* Companies with more than 50 employees:  $20,000 / year
* Companies with less than 50 employees:  $10,000 / year
* Non-profits: $0

We would like to expand corporate sponsorships but we don't want to
lessen the benefits for the Advisory Board partners.  The major
benefits to being on the Advisory Board are monthly Advisory Board
calls with other members and the Foundation's board of directors and
an annual meeting at GUADEC.  (I'm not sure if the ED does anything
above and beyond other than normal and expected communication).  We've
also had feedback from potential partners asking for smaller ways to
give.

I'd like to get the community's feedback on two additional potential levels:

Level 1:  $1000 / year
Benefits: Logo added to foundation.gnome.org - This will be available
to companies to show they sponsor GNOME financially - some companies
like the validation to help show potential clients.

Level 2: $5000 / year
Benefits:  Logo added to foundation.gnome.org and quarterly one on one
call with the Executive Director.  Same as above and an opportunity to
share feedback with GNOME's CEO.

While the benefits may not seem like much to some, it's a way for
companies to give and show they are a part of the community.  We'd
have to come up with naming conventions for the other levels.

Lastly, as part of this, I'd like to revamp the foundation.gnome.org
website for both these kind of corporate sponsors as well as those who
have donated hardware to the Foundation, such as a potential offer for
a new event box, Red Hat and Canonical for hosting our servers in
their data centers and other things that are in the works.

Anyone have any other potential benefits we could add?  Feedback on
the costs?   Ideas for naming conventions?

I look forward to everyone's feedback and ideas!

Thanks!

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Re: Open source bridge talk..

[Paul Cutler]

Hi Sri,

A good place to start is with the design overview document William Jon
McCann and Jeremy Perry wrote[1].

Paul

[1] http://www.gnome.org/~mccann/shell/design/GNOME_Shell-20090705.pdf

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> So I'm trying to formulate my talk for Open Source Bridge in Portland in
> June (http://opensourcebridge.org/events/2011/proposals) and since ithis is
> after the release, I was hoping that I could concentrate on two things:
>
> 1) the philsophy behind the design of gnome shell - eg user flow and what
> not
> 2) a talk on extending gnome-shell
>
> I think in the past we've never really clearly defined why we designed our
> desktop the way it is and a lot of people never understood it they always
> saw it as "taking away features" and I want to talk about why it was
> designed the way it is (why no applets etc) and the opportunities in
> extending gnome-shell.
>
> This conference has a number of web programmers (look at the proposals) and
> of course they all know javascript so it will be a great opportunity to
> attract developers from that community to hack on gnome-shell and extend it.
>
> I'd like to partner with someone from gnome-shell team to talk about the
> philosophy and work that went into designing gnome-shell.  I think this
> would be pretty helpful.  For now I'm going to put in a stub since they are
> gathering proposals now and then we can discuss in late April time frame
> when gnome shell guys will not be so busy.
>
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Re: gnome3.org update [Was: 4/14 Friends of GNOME videos finished and posted]

[Paul Cutler]

Sounds great.

Do you think you might have time to add these to a wiki page?  That
way, if we get any new volunteers looking to help, we can easily point
them to a set of tasks that need to be worked on.

Thanks again for all your work on this.

Paul

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Allan Day  wrote:
> Jason D. Clinton wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 15:10, Jason D. Clinton 
>> wrote:
>>         The last commit adds the text areas and needs a little
>>         iteration. Please feel free to tweak it without clearing it
>>         with me before posting it.
>>
>>         Also feel free to publish the updated screen shots without my
>>         last commit if you feel you'd like to go live immediately
>>         without the added text areas.
>>
>>
>> Well, I was under the impression that a publishing step was required
>> but I guess it's live already. Oops!
>>
>> I'll iterate on the text a little more now to make it presentable but
>> feel free to remove or comment out areas at a whim.
>
> Me and Jason have been discussing the site, and were thinking that an
> update might be in order at some point in the near(ish) future. There
> are quite a few changes that have been discussed, and it makes sense to
> have them go live at the same time as part of an event, rather than
> being added incrementally.
>
> Jason's kindly offered to create a branch where we can prepare these
> updates before making them live.
>
> Here's a list of changes that have been discussed:
>
>  * Refinement of the home page text
>
>  * Addition of video content
>
>  * Follow us buttons for Twitter and Identica
>
>  * A Facebook 'Like' button
>
>  * One of Andreas's snazzy page footers, like the one on the t-shirt
> contest site [1]
>
>  * A launch party page
>
>  * A developer platform page
>
>  * Updates to the Try It page, hopefully with a link to the preview
> build
>
> That's not a list of what we should or need to do; it's just the
> possibilities that I'm aware of. Contributions would be welcome, of
> course.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Allan
>
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Re: Questions about FoG and campaigns

[Paul Cutler]

I agree - I also think they should be for a specific time period.
They lose potency and impact if they're around too long.  Luis Villa
sent me this link - it's a long read, but well worth it on how
successful fundraising on Kickstarter worked.  When you look at the
timing of when people give in relation to how long the campaign is, is
very interesting.

http://craigmod.com/journal/kickstartup/

Paul

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Og Maciel  wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Jason D. Clinton  
> wrote:
>> I guess the question would be: do the campaigns switch like clock-work
>> or do we do it manually depending on how close we are to the goal when
>> the time for the next campaign period arrives?
>
> I'd like to have campaigns scheduled in advance so that we can better
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Re: Questions about FoG and campaigns

[Paul Cutler]

Hi Og,

Thanks for starting the thread.

A little background - at the two marketing hackfests last year we
spend a lot of time talking about fundraising. One of the goals behind
two campaigns a year was to tie them to GNOME releases (when we're
getting a lot of press) and we didn't want to be out there a lot
asking for donations.  We were hoping to have targeted campaigns with
specific goals that would help people feel like they were a part of
something.  We originally planned on one fundraising campaign to raise
funds for all of GNOME and one campaign a year with a theme, such as
the sysadmin hiring last year.

What do others think?  These ideas aren't set in stone, but the key is
to have the marketing team participate so we're getting the word out
via the website, blog posts, microblogging, etc.  (Which is the big
concern I have with the banner being up right now - we don't have any
support for it going on).

I look forward to hearing others thoughts.

Paul

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Og Maciel  wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I wanted to ask about your opinions on how we currently coordinate our
> campaigns. Paul and I have discussed this a bit on irc and I believe
> that we need to discuss about how we want to handle it going forward.
>
> From what I understood, being the marketing newbie, we currently have
> 2 recurring annual campaigns: one for the end of the year which
> usually ends at the end of the Xmas/New Year festivities and another
> one with a more specific goal, such as paying for hardware, hackfests,
> etc. Due to some delays in getting all the web site components in
> place for the "end of year" campaign of 2010, there was no clear start
> and end delimiters set and that campaign is still active though nobody
> really spelled out that it was a "end of the year" campaign. In other
> words, whoever goes to our FoG page won't know that we're still doing
> a "end of year" campaign.
>
> I wanted to discuss about how many campaigns do we want to do this
> year and if we want to turn the specific campaign into something that
> can vary (i.e. A11Y campaigns, Hardware campaigns, etc)? Also, what do
> we do with the current campaign? Do we want to end it? The goal was to
> get 400 new subscribers but we've only managed to get 30.\
>
> Sooo, going forward:
>
> * Do we want to change the current number of campaigns per year?
> * If so, do we vary the theme for the second campaign?
> * what are the dates we should be holding them?
> * Should we kill off the current one?
>
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[Paul Cutler]

Hi Allan,

I think this is a good idea - are you thinking a live session in IRC
or something else?

Paul

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Allan Day  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> A GNOME 3 Q&A session would be an extremely beneficial part of our
> marketing campaign. It would demonstrate that GNOME is open and cares
> about its users, and it would be an effective way of dealing with
> negative comments on the web. It's really good to be able to say 'if
> you have concerns, please come and talk to us'.
>
> Do people think this is a good idea? If you do, how do we make it
> happen? The first thing we'll need are volunteers...
>
> Best,
>
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GNOME Journal

[Paul Cutler]

Hi all,

Sumana and I have (well, mostly Sumana) have been talking and planning
some upcoming issues of GNOME Journal.  We're currently working on a
special edition with GNOME Hispano, and we'd like to quickly follow
that with an issue focused on GNOME 3.0.  The GNOME 3.0 issue is
tentatively scheduled for for April 3rd, right before the 3.0 release.
 We're looking for articles on the new features, updates to
applications, interviews, you name it - and we need your help!

Please let Sumana and I know if you'd like to contribute an article.
You can ping us in #gnome-journal on IRC or feel free to shoot us an
email or reply on the gnome-journal list.

Thanks!

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Re: getting www.gnome3.org

[Paul Cutler]

See Frederic's email to d-d-l he just posted - he has working live
image off USB.

Paul

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Dave Neary  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Dave Neary wrote:
>> I used [1] on Ubuntu 10.10 and it seems to work fine.
>>
>>> [1] https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/testing
>>> [2] https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3/+packages
>>
>> I'm currently upgrading to 11.04 to get the latest greatest.
>
> 
>
>> So I will be removing ricotz and switching o the gnome3 team when I'm done.
>
> So what is delivered by the gnome3 team PPA is mostly unusable right now
> - I'm still waiting for good 2.91.4 builds to come through from Debian -
>  and the ricotz PPA is a weird no-mans-land, with just the shell, and
> with Unity & Compiz using global Mac-style menus, when you switch to
> gnome-shell you don't have any menus any more.
>
> I'd really like to figure out how to get a proper GNOME 3 experience
> without switching distros, but if I have to, I will (but then, we'll be
> sending a hell of a message to the users of the most popular Linux
> distro out there).
>
> Cheers,
> Dave.
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Re: String and UI Change Announcement Period

[Paul Cutler]

It would be helpful to let the Marketing team know too- there is
interest in doing videos, but we need to know when the UI gets close
so the videos are as accurate as possible.

Paul

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Vincent Untz  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We'll enter the String and UI Change Announcement Period at the end of
> tomorrow. This means that starting on Tuesday:
>
>  - all string changes must be announced to both gnome-i18n@ and
>    gnome-doc-l...@.
>
>  - all user interface changes must be announced to gnome-doc-l...@.
>
> It probably makes sense at least for the shell team and for the people
> working on the default theme to tell gnome-doc-list how much of the UI
> can be expected to still change during that period. It'd be a shame to
> have people starting to take many screenshots if they'll all be outdated
> a few weeks after.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Vincent
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FoG website update

[Paul Cutler]

Hi,
I just pushed a couple small updates to the Friends website[1].  I
updated the sidebar to be add updates from 2010, including a11y,
usability and hiring a sysadmin.  (It was showing 2008 stuff!)

I also updated the Amazon page[2] with support for Chromium and Chrome
from Jaap's last blog post.  (Thanks Jaap!)

Paul

[1] http://www.gnome.org/friends/
[2] http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/
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Q4 Updates Due

[Paul Cutler]

Hi Marketing team!

The Q4 team updates are due and we had a bunch of activity over the
last 3 months, with Friends of GNOME, GCI, etc.

Would anyone like to try their hand at writing the update?  You can
see an example of the Q2 update[1] and I'm working to get the GNOME Q3
update up later today.  We need to have the Q4 report written in a
week by Jan 12th.

Thanks for the help!

Paul

[1] http://foundation.gnome.org/reports/gnome-report-2010-Q2.html
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Re: Pre-release marketing and community management [Was: getting www.gnome3.org]

[Paul Cutler]

Hi Allan,

Thanks for kicking off this discussion.

Andreas and I did some work on GNOME3.org which can be found on Github:

https://github.com/andreasn/gnome3-website

We were pretty close - the design is done and some of the copy needs
to be updated.  We were waiting for some videos and screenshots and
then we wanted to launch it, but it's a bit stalled.  I don't see any
reason we couldn't take it, update the screenshots and copy, and
launch it fairly quickly.

I strongly agree with you that it would be beneficial to get some
positive marketing out there sooner rather than later.

Paul

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:35 AM, Allan Day  wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 09:05 +, Allan Day wrote:
>> On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 13:50 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Jason D. Clinton
>> >  wrote:
>> >         Since it was supposed to be almost entirely video thumbnails
>> >         on the front page, the videos need to go up there. And since
>> >         we don't have a UI freeze for a few more months, it wasn't in
>> >         the plan to have it up until then.
>> >
>> >
>> >         But I think there is a value in making this a kind of
>> >         process-marketing. I think we could launch the site with a
>> >         "Beta" decal and post the unfinished videos with the time
>> >         codes in them so that no one gets any ideas about posting them
>> >         as the final marketing assets.
>>
>> Apologies if this is a discussion which has already taken place, but can
>> I ask: are there any plans to put out positive stories and messages
>> about GNOME Shell and GNOME 3 in the run up to the release? (And if so,
>> what are they?!) I can see this being highly beneficial. It doesn't have
>> to involve the gnome3 site - we could focus on getting positive stories
>> about GNOME Shell into the press, for example. Just a handful of such
>> stories would be immensely beneficial.
>
> I just had a little look at what other projects are doing in this
> regard...
>
>  * The Firefox 4 site [1] has some really nice details on the upcoming
> release.
>
>  * The Unity pages [2] are upbeat and they look nice, though rather
> lacking on detail. (Jono has been getting positive articles [3] into
> circulation, though.)
>
>  * The OS X Lion page [4] describes upcoming features and explains their
> benefits.
>
> What are the chances of throwing together a preview page of this ilk? I
> could chip in with some copy...
>
> Allan
>
> [1] http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/beta/features/
> [2] http://unity.ubuntu.com/about/
> [3]
> http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/the-evolution-of-the-linux-desktop-914736
> [4] http://www.apple.com/macosx/lion/
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GNOME 3.0 Contract Opportunity

[Paul Cutler]

Hi Marketing Team!

Over the last few months I haven't had the time I would like to dedicate
to the marketing team and work with the community on GNOME 3.0
deliverables.  With GNOME 3.0 coming, the GNOME Foundation Board
believes this work is important and is willing to sign a short term
contract to get some marketing materials created to help support the
GNOME 3.0 launch.  If anyone is interested, please email the Board with
your resume per official announcement below.

Paul

The GNOME Foundation is seeking a marketing expert to do short-term
contract work to help improve GNOME and GNOME 3 marketing materials, to
work to promote GNOME in the media, and to assist with press management.
The GNOME Foundation has $5,000 (USD) allocated to pay a contractor for
the creation of marketing materials supporting GNOME.

Interested parties should email board-l...@gnome.org with a resume
detailing related work or volunteer experience.  Please include a cover
letter that explains your interest and level of familiarity with
marketing as it relates to GNOME and free software.  Please include
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Re: open source bridge/ oscon / northwest linuxfest

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Hi Sri,

I'll be happy to work on it with you.  I think I'm going to update my
GNOME 3 presentation I gave at OLF last year and do it at SCALE this
coming February so I'll have some content for you.

Paul

On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna  wrote:
> So, March - August I believe is going to have a number of conferences in the
> northwest.  (U.S.) and I am planning on putting in presentations for Gnome 3
> for each of the conferences in the subject line.
>
> The first I believe is in March with open source bridge which seems to be a
> pretty good fit.  I would like to start working with people on getting some
> idea of what Gnome 3 will look like by March and then figure out how to put
> out a presentation.  I have approximately 3 months to put together the
> materials.
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Re: The GNOME Foundation blog

[Paul Cutler]

We're looking into upgrading Wordpress as well for blogs.gnome.org in
the near future.  We need to check if that theme is installed if it
can be installed on a per-blog basis or everyone has access to it.

Paul

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Andreas Nilsson  wrote:
> I'll look into this. I think it should be pretty simple, as we're doing
> http://wptest.gnome.org/ all in wordpress, and it's just a matter of reusing
> the theme vinicious did for that.
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Re: T-shirt contest and GNOME Friends promotion

[Paul Cutler]

On Sat, 2010-12-11 at 11:15 +0800, Frederic Muller wrote:
> We've also discussed about creating some slides for UGs about GNOME
> in 
> general and finding topics "anyone" could present. If someone is 
> interest or has any existing content which could be adapted let's
> start 
>   page below http://live.gnome.org/UserGroups . 

Hi Fred,

The Foundation recently worked with InitMarketing who has done some work
in creating some presentations for GNOME users and developers to use.
The presentations are modular so people will be able to mix and match
topics and slides when giving a presentation about a given GNOME topic.

I had an opportunity to review the slides just recently and they look
great. The InitMarketing team will be introducing themselves and their
work on the Marketing list.

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Re: Learning from the best

[Paul Cutler]

Dave,

I'll be following up with you for GJ after this next edition is out!

:)

On a more serious note, I think both arguments are valid - I think
longer form articles and short form (twitter, etc) both have their
uses - I would love to see a volunteer step up and help manage and run
one of them.  I think all outreach is good, especially with a good
plan and goal behind it.

Paul

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Dave Neary  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Joey Ferwerda wrote:
>> The attention span of general people are very low.
>> Thats the reason why Twitter is 160 characters max, the facebook
>> messages are short, most of the Blogs contain a "read more" button with
>> 90% of the post, youtube does not allow large video's for regular users
>> etc etc.
>
> At this stage, I have to ask: is this "stop energy" (i.e. "I don't think
> you should waste your time doing this") or a proposal to spend more time
> with a micro-communication strategy (Twitter, Facebook & daily links
> type stuff)?
>
> I really like the longer articles, and it's the kind of thing I'd like
> to see more in the GNOME Journal - and I'd even volunteer to write one
> or two, and encourage others to do the same - but I don't want to spend
> time arguing about whether it's useful or not.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave.
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Re: GNOME Sound

[Paul Cutler]

I'd recommend Joey (cc'd) - he's active in GNOME marketing and has a
musical background.

Paul

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Shaun McCance  wrote:
> At the developer docs hackfest last week, we began building simple
> demo tutorials for application developers. We plan to add short
> screencasts to the beginning of each demo, so readers can get a
> (hopefully exciting) glimpse of what they'll be able to create
> in the next 15-30 minutes.
>
> Somebody (Chris, I think) suggested we start each video with a
> very short GNOME logo fade-in with a sound. A short sound that
> we could strongly associate with the GNOME brand. I suggested
> that, if we had such a sound, it could even be the sound that's
> played when GDM is ready. (I dislike startup sounds in general,
> but IIRC that's an accessibility feature.)
>
> Short of find an old SNES and a copy of Mario Paint, I wouldn't
> have the slightest idea how to make a sound. Do we have tools
> for that? Does anybody have experience? Are people interested
> in having a branded sound?
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Re: FoG pending Tasks

[Paul Cutler]

Hi Joey,

Any updates?

Og - any updates on getting the banner added to the GNOME sites to
track new subscribers?

Paul

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Stormy Peters  wrote:
> Hi Joey,
>
> It would be great to see the press mail and the radio jingle before you send
> them out.
>
> Looking forward to it!
>
> Stormy
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Joey Ferwerda 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hey all
>> I have a lot of things ready but pending, the Annual doodad is created,
>> but i am waiting for Shapeways to contact me back, i think this might be a
>> better plan for 2011.
>> I have created a Press mail for Magazines and Websites, but i am still
>> waiting for the website to contain the Video, since i mentioned it in the
>> Press message.
>> I did some ad design, but it was to short time to get it towards the print
>> media, so i am thinking of doing a banner instead.
>> The radio Jingle is almost done, will have it before end of the weekend,
>> and will send it to multiple radio stations then.
>> Thanks
>> Joey
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Og Maciel  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Brian Cameron 
>>> wrote:
>>> > It's great that FoG is moving forward.  However, we have had plans
>>> > to make it possible for organizations to donate money to the GNOME
>>> > Foundation in exchange for recognition, link exchange, being said
>>> > to sponsor GNOME events/activities, etc.
>>>
>>> We already have a "previous donors" page in place which I manually
>>> update...
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Re: The GNOME Foundation blog

[Paul Cutler]

Hi Pockey,

Thanks for the feedback.  We're going to be upgrading blogs.gnome.org
to the latest WP version in the next couple of months and I'll take a
look at it then.  I don't plan on using the GJ theme as I believe
GNOME Journal, as a quarterly magazine, should have its own look and
feel.

Paul

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 3:12 AM, Juanjo Marin  wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 11:38 +0800, Pockey Lam wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> When promoting the new Friends of GNOME campaign via facebook, I
>> received some feedback that 'the theme of The GNOME Foundation blog
>> (http://blogs.gnome.org/foundation) is too simple'.  'They also
>> suggest to use the one from gnomejournal (http://gnomejournal.org/)'.
>> What do you guys think and what can we do about it?
>>
>> Pockey
>
> I agree that the theme of the GNOME Foundation blog is too simple and
> looks like a sort-of default theme. We should use a most elaborate
> theme. The only thing I like about this theme is the fact it uses an
> suitable font for GNOME.
>
> Cheers,
>
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Re: FoG Posters

[Paul Cutler]

I might recommend checking with Brian Cameron - I believe he was
selling posters at GUADEC this year.  I don't know if they were a huge
success as he had more at the Boston Summit.

The Zazzle store does have the ability to offer posters but I didn't
look at the details.

Paul

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 4:01 AM, Emily Chen  wrote:
> It is a good idea and we should do it.
>
> Just one question, do we need to design new FoG posters for sale or use the
> one which we signed with all board's names on it during GUADEC 2010?I
> suggest we never sale the one with Board's signature to make it special.
>
> -Emily
>
> 2010/12/4 Og Maciel 
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Someone just asked me if we could make FoG Posters (for sale?) and I
>> thought it could be a great thing to sell/distribute... Suggestions?
>>
>> Cheers and enjoy the weekend!
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>>
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Re: Annual gift Friends Of Gnome (Please reply asap)

[Paul Cutler]

Hi,

I would strongly recommend not limiting this to 100 - I think once we
reach 100 people will just opt-out of subscribing and the goal is to
get to 400.  I'd rather not see us discriminate, such as for people
who may not hear about the gift right away.

Paul

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Emily Chen  wrote:
>
>
> 2010/11/18 Calum Benson 
>>
>> On 18 Nov 2010, at 03:51, Joey Ferwerda wrote:
>>
>> > Inlined Text/No Borders:
>> > http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/2thljc7b/GnomeFootInsetNoEdges.png
>> > Inlined Text/With Borders
>> > http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/7cj15bfh/GnomeFootInsetWithEdges.png
>> > Outside Text/No Borders
>> > http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/adoa3ach/GnomeFootFront.png
>> > Outside Text/With Borders
>> > http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/c595mivw/GnomeFootEdgedFront.png
>>
>> Personally I'd prefer it without the text at all... you wouldn't normally
>> see "GNOME" written anywhere inside the logo because it's in breach of the
>> logo guidelines, and it just makes the whole thing look too 'busy' IMHO.
>>
>> (Also, shouldn't the text around the edge say "Friends of GNOME", rather
>> than "Friends of Gnome"?)
>
> Calum is right. Should be GNOME everywhere.  "Friends of GNOME",  +1
>
> -emily
>>
>> Cheeri,
>> Calum.
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Re: Friends of GNOME session notes

[Paul Cutler]

Thanks for the recap Jason!

If anyone wants to help with any of the tasks and you weren't at the
Summit, please feel free to volunteer!  More help is always welcome.

Paul

On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Jason D. Clinton  wrote:
> Friends of GNOME
>
> Stormy opened the session by giving an overview of the target: users who
> feel that they would like to contribute but don't know how because they
> aren't technical.
>
> Objectives:
>
> 400 new subscribers
> Use a progress bar on the web site similar to the sysadmin campaign
> Any dollar value
> New t-shirt
> Videos of developers talking about how funding helps hackfests
> Track referrals from people
> Track referrals from online advertising
>
> Someone asked if there were any demographics about donors from the past
> year. Stormy replied that the data is there--based on country--but someone
> would need to compile the data.
>
> There was a discussion about getting academic communications departments
> involved in this and other marketing departments. Everyone loved this idea
> but it was decided that we're too close to the end of the year (the target
> for this campaign) to specifically try to involve an academic project.
>
> The floor was opened to a discussion of rewards for contribution in addition
> to a T-Shirt: foam GNOME foot trinkets, stickers, a membership card.
>
> We discussed implementing referral tracking by integrating our PayPal data
> with our CiviCRM installation. The action items out of this discussion were
>
> Text for ruler (Paul)
> Clean up Friends of GNOME landing page (Og)
>
> Fix subscriptions
> One time
> Ask for location
>
> Annual subscription (Og)
> Merchandise
>
> New t-shirt (Joey)
> Community assistance for distribution (Vincent)
> Collectible doodad with year on it, 300 qty (Joey) (maybe Andreas?)
> Membership cards with member number (Og)
>
> Map mash-up of contributors
> Getting the word out
>
> Design 2 ads (Joey)
> Social networking (Og)
> Radio jingle (Joey)
> Google
> LWN (Stormy)
>
> Email current subscribers (Paul)
> Videos of developers talking about hack-fest funding via Friends of GNOME
> (Jason/Joey)
>
> Dates:
>
> Launch new Friends of GNOME site - Nov. 16th
> Annual item per year (doodad) - Nov. 18th
> Map mash-up - Nov. 21st
> Launch promotional avenues - Nov 22nd
> Membership cards - Nov 22nd
> T-Shirts - Dec. 31st
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Re: Friends of GNOME: Discount for annual subscription option

[Paul Cutler]

One of the advantages of the $100 annual option is that the Foundation
gets the amount immediately - where as with the $10 / month option
they could cancel during that period (though they wouldn't get their
t-shirt).

I think getting a discount with getting the money right away up front
makes sense.

Paul

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Dave Neary  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Stormy Peters wrote:
>> Og Maciel is working on the Friends of GNOME page and he had the idea of
>> offering a discount if people sign up for the year. So a yearly
>> subscription would be $100/year and a monthly subscription would be
>> $10/month.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>
> Sounds like a good idea. An extra gift (if we can get one from a
> sponsor/partner, like the LWN deal) would also be a nice touch.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave.
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Boston Summit

[Paul Cutler]

Hi Marketing team - just curious if anyone will be coming to the Boston
Summit[1] next month.  I'll be there for the Snowy hackfest and I'd love to
meet up and talk GNOME or GNOME 3.0 marketing if you're around.

Let me know!

Thanks.

Paul

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Re: Urgent - Screenshots needed

[Paul Cutler]

Or the Google Code / GHOP project that's coming next month as well.

Paul

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Stormy Peters  wrote:

> Hi Jos,
>
> I agree that we need more and better screenshots. Having a nice page on
> gnome.org would be good too.
>
> I put the screenshots I found on the wiki here:
> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingMaterial/Posters
>
> I'm thinking this would be a great project for the people applying for the
> Outreach project that need to do a project as part of their application. I'm
> going to go try to talk one of them into it now!
>
> Stormy
>
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Jos Poortvliet 
> wrote:
>
>> On Monday 04 October 2010 17:49:16 Paul Cutler wrote:
>> > Hi GNOME Marketing Team!
>> >
>> > I received an email from the Desktop Summit 2011 team late yesterday
>> with
>> > an urgent request for a website they are building targeting the press
>> that
>> > is going up Wed.  From the email:
>> >
>> > Could you please help out with two-three screenshots representative for
>> > what GNOME software is about? One for desktop form factor, one for
>> > handheld, one for tablet, perhaps also some demo video embedddable from
>> > vimeo, youtube and similar? Thanks. Idea is to give journalists some
>> > easy-to-pick nice pictures/videos to use in their writings
>>
>> In general, having a page with some nice screenshots (compare for example
>> what
>> KDE has here: http://kde.org/workspaces/plasmadesktop/ ) would be very
>> helpful. I am trying to create a 'slideshow' with cool GNOME screenshots
>> but
>> there are a few things making it harder:
>> - no good 'official' screenshots on gnome.org (that I know off) and most
>> screenshots I can find are not with the default GNOME look and feel
>> - GNOME3 screenshots are a bit outdated.
>>
>> I have installed a clean GNOME install on openSUSE but that's also not
>> vanilla, with the modified panel setup and all. It's fine for openSUSE
>> promo
>> purpose, of course - but not for general GNOME. I will share what I have
>> made
>> once it is done - but note that it will be openSUSE, not vanilla.
>>
>> > Does anyone have any ideas - screenshots (preferably of GNOME 3.0) - I
>> > think we want to focus on GNOME Shell as that is what will be released
>> by
>> > the time of the Desktop Summit next summer.  Any videos on the GNOME
>> Miro
>> > community? I think we can just focus on the desktop - we don't have a
>> > formal handheld or tablet experience yet.
>> >
>> > Thanks for the help - I'll help compile anything we find tonight and
>> > forward it on.
>> >
>> > Paul
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Urgent - Screenshots needed

[Paul Cutler]

Hi GNOME Marketing Team!

I received an email from the Desktop Summit 2011 team late yesterday with an
urgent request for a website they are building targeting the press that is
going up Wed.  From the email:

Could you please help out with two-three screenshots representative for what
GNOME software is about? One for desktop form factor, one for handheld, one
for tablet, perhaps also some demo video embedddable from vimeo, youtube and
similar? Thanks. Idea is to give journalists some easy-to-pick nice
pictures/videos to use in their writings


Does anyone have any ideas - screenshots (preferably of GNOME 3.0) - I think
we want to focus on GNOME Shell as that is what will be released by the time
of the Desktop Summit next summer.  Any videos on the GNOME Miro community?
 I think we can just focus on the desktop - we don't have a formal handheld
or tablet experience yet.

Thanks for the help - I'll help compile anything we find tonight and forward
it on.

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Re: Booth request follow-up

[Paul Cutler]

Christer,

Here you go:  http://live.gnome.org/GnomeEventsBox

Larry is subscribed to the mktg list or you can contact him at larry.cafiero
at gmail.com

Paul

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Christer Edwards <
christer.edwa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I can't seem to find the wiki page with the conference booth request
> and schedule so this was the next best place.
>
> The Utah Open Source Conference is next week (Oct 7-9). I've been
> planning on running the booth there. If anyone can point me in the
> right direction to make sure that it gets where it needs to go when it
> needs to be there, I'd appreciate it.
>
> Thank you,
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Re: Getting some students in communication helping with copywriting & web?

[Paul Cutler]

Dave,

This looks awesome, I'm willing to help as well.

Two other projects are reviewing and updating the new GNOME.org content -
we've got a good first pass (that also needs to be finished) and we did some
planning against a second level of content that students could work on.

Another projects is helping to migrate GNOME Journal from it's current CMS
to Wordpress - it's tedious, but someone would need to go through all of the
content, update the permalinks, update all of the photos and links to them
in the articles, etc.  I would put that under your "boring" header for
Marcomm.  :)

Paul

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Dave Neary  wrote:

> Great, that's a couple of volunteers, and should be enough to get us
> started. I'll check whether it's possible to propose tutored projects
> through the foundation, if not, I can proxy for GNOME here.
>
> A few project ideas I had in this area were:
> * Working on those stock presentations & storyboards we've been talking
> about for years
> * Doing some promotional videos
> * Doing "boring" marcomm work related to marketing materials (t-shirts,
> posters, etc) to improve our conference presence in general
> * Of course, it's possible to suggest web work & copywriting too, but I
> don't think we could easily make a degree-sized project easily for that.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave.
>
> Stormy Peters wrote:
> > I'd be willing to help.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Jason Clinton  > > wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 04:28, Dave Neary  > > wrote:
> >
> > I want to make sure that there is sufficient
> > mentoring resources available in the marketing team to give
> regular
> > feedback & ensure follow-through if I propose this idea to the
> > course
> > supervisor.
> >
> >
> > Would love to help! library.gnome.org  is
> > another idea; needs a lot of updating for GNOME 3 and it's a target
> > community, too.
> >
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Re: Blogs on ereaders

[Paul Cutler]

We should do planet.gnome.org and maybe news.gnome.org.

Paul

On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Stormy Peters  wrote:

> I think it's a good idea. It sounds pretty easy to apply too.
>
> Stormy
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Juanjo Marin wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 2010-09-25 at 13:09 -0500, Bryen M. Yunashko wrote:
>> > Have we gotten Planet GNOME onto Kindle and other ereader products?  I
>> > haven't been able to find it yet (though I'm still learning my Kindle).
>> > >From what I've gathered...Amazon charges 99 cents a month for delivery
>> > of blogs and pays 30% of revenue to the blogger (in this case GNOME
>> > Foundation.)
>> >
>> > Has this already been explored?
>> >
>> > Bryen
>> >
>>
>> I really like the idea of reading read pgo on my kindle
>>
>>
>> -- Juanjo
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Re: Add GNOME to eBay nonprofits?

[Paul Cutler]

+1

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Bryen M. Yunashko wrote:

> On Fri, 2010-09-24 at 09:37 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
> > When you sell an item on eBay, you can select to donate some of your
> > profits to a nonprofit[1]. The list of eligible nonprofits is managed
> > by MissionFish[2].
> >
> >
> > I would like to add GNOME to the list of eligible nonprofits. It costs
> > nothing to sign up, only takes a few minutes and maybe there are GNOME
> > fans out there that sell things on eBay and would be willing to
> > support the project that way.
> >
> >
> > I wanted to get a couple of quick +1s or -1s before I do this just to
> > make sure the community also agrees this is a good idea.
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> >
> > Stormy
> >
> >
> > [1] http://givingworks.ebay.com/
> > [2] www.missionfish.org
> > [3] This was prompted by this article I read this
> > morning:
> http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/23/paypal-makes-it-easy-to-give/
>
> I would say its good in theory.   I certainly felt good splurging on
> GNOME's Amazon Store recently.The only difference I see is that
> you'll have to actively promote sellers to donate to GNOME.   And
> finding out who those sellers are is probably a lot more work.   But
> still... if it gets something, go for it!
>
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Re: collecting posters, tshirts and screenshots

[Paul Cutler]

Hi Stormy,

Thanks for doing this.  I wonder if she wouldn't move those to an archive
page and create a new page with new screenshots so we can assign a CC
license to them for re-use as the wiki doesn't have a default license
currently.

Paul

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Stormy Peters  wrote:

> I created a wiki page to collect screenshots as well as designs for posters
> and tshirts. I did it because I'm always looking for screenshots and it
> seems people are always asking for a previous tshirt design.
>
> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingMaterial/Posters
>
> Please feel free to add any you may have. (Or point me to them.)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stormy
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Re: Fwd: Software Freedom Day

[Paul Cutler]

On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 14:44 -0700, Sandy Armstrong wrote:
> >>   * Make data and works of authorship available to their
> service’s
> >> users under legal terms and in formats that enable the
> users
> >> to move and use their data outside of the service. This
> means:
> >>   * Users should control their private data.
> >>   * Data available to all users of the service should
> be
> >> available under terms approved for Free Cultural
> >> Works or Open Knowledge.
> >>
> >
> > Yes and No.  The user controls their private data - they are his or
> her
> > notes.  The user can set if they're public or not.  However, the
> second
> > bullet - just because a note is public doesn't mean that it's
> > automatically under a CC license, for example.  Maybe we can add a
> > feature to add a copyright / copyleft assignment to notes similar to
> > Flickr.  I don't know - not sure if I'm reading this right or if
> it's
> > applicable.
> 
> Again, since we're not a social networking site, we don't have much
> "data available to all users".  Forcing users to license their public
> notes as CC probably wouldn't go over well, but giving the option is a
> good idea.  We should file a bug for that.
> 
> Sandy 

Bug filed:  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=629580

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Re: Fwd: Software Freedom Day

[Paul Cutler]

I think we adhere to the Franklin Street statement.  Adding Sandy
Armstrong, one of Snowy's lead developers to the CC. Comments below:


On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 14:48 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
> Here's the Franklin Street
> statement: http://autonomo.us/2008/07/franklin-street-statement/
> 
> 
> 
> Developers of network service software are encouraged to:
> 
>   * Use the GNU Affero GPL, a license designed specifically for
> network service software, to ensure that users of services
> have the ability to examine the source or implement their own
> service.

Check, we're using the AGPL.

>   * Develop freely-licensed alternatives to existing popular but
> non-Free network services.

I don't think Tomboy Online is being developed as an alternative to
other services but possible.  Maybe Evernote?  I really haven't used
competitive products.

>   * Develop software that can replace centralized services and
> data storage with distributed software and data deployment,
> giving control back to users.

Check.  Users can install their own Snowy instance if they don't want to
use Tomboy Online, which is GNOME's centralized service.

> Service providers are encouraged to:
>   * Choose Free Software for their service.

Check.

>   * Release customizations to their software under a Free Software
> license.

Check.  We haven't set up a specific repository for Tomboy Online as
we're using the Snowy repo on GNOME's git servers, but if we were to do
that, we'd continue to use GNOME.

>   * Make data and works of authorship available to their service’s
> users under legal terms and in formats that enable the users
> to move and use their data outside of the service. This means:
>   * Users should control their private data.
>   * Data available to all users of the service should be
> available under terms approved for Free Cultural
> Works or Open Knowledge.
> 

Yes and No.  The user controls their private data - they are his or her
notes.  The user can set if they're public or not.  However, the second
bullet - just because a note is public doesn't mean that it's
automatically under a CC license, for example.  Maybe we can add a
feature to add a copyright / copyleft assignment to notes similar to
Flickr.  I don't know - not sure if I'm reading this right or if it's
applicable.

Paul

> 
> I think Tomboy follows its principles pretty closely. Paul, can you
> comment? 
> 
> 
> Stormy
> 
> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Paul Cutler 
> wrote:
> Hi Zonker,
> 
> For the Tomboy Online alpha:
> 
> 1. Alpha signups are starting today.  The form to sign up is
> at
> 
> https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFZleG05V196b3g4VUFSTHhzcTRFMmc6MQ
> 
> 2. The alpha is invite only and we will be reviewing the list
> over the
> next week or so.  Tomboy Online will be available for alpha
> users
> sometime in the next week or two, we have a bug to fix first.
> 
> 3. This is alpha quality software and we are not making any
> guarantees
> about data integrity nor do we have a privacy policy in place
> yet.  More
> in the FAQ here: http://live.gnome.org/Snowy/FAQ
> 
> 4. We don't know how long the alpha will last yet prior to
> launching the
> beta.  Our goal is to launch the beta in 6 months with GNOME
> 3.0.
> 
> 5. Tomboy Online is GNOME's first AGPL web service, and as you
> point
> out, a great tie-in for SFD.
> 
>     Let me know if you need any more information.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
> > From: Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier 
> > Date: Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: Software Freedom Day
> > To: Stormy Peters 
> > Cc: Paul Cutler , marketing-list
> 
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Stormy Peters
>  wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
> 
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hey Stormy,
> > >>
> > >> I think the online alpha is way more newsworthy than
> saying "some
> > >> GNOME developers are taking pa

Re: Fwd: Software Freedom Day

[Paul Cutler]

Hi Zonker,

For the Tomboy Online alpha:

1. Alpha signups are starting today.  The form to sign up is at
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFZleG05V196b3g4VUFSTHhzcTRFMmc6MQ

2. The alpha is invite only and we will be reviewing the list over the
next week or so.  Tomboy Online will be available for alpha users
sometime in the next week or two, we have a bug to fix first.

3. This is alpha quality software and we are not making any guarantees
about data integrity nor do we have a privacy policy in place yet.  More
in the FAQ here: http://live.gnome.org/Snowy/FAQ

4. We don't know how long the alpha will last yet prior to launching the
beta.  Our goal is to launch the beta in 6 months with GNOME 3.0.

5. Tomboy Online is GNOME's first AGPL web service, and as you point
out, a great tie-in for SFD.

Let me know if you need any more information.

Paul


> From: Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier 
> Date: Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Software Freedom Day
> To: Stormy Peters 
> Cc: Paul Cutler , marketing-list 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Stormy Peters  wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey Stormy,
> >>
> >> I think the online alpha is way more newsworthy than saying "some
> >> GNOME developers are taking part in this larger thing."
> >>
> >> We can tie it into SFD by saying GNOME is looking ahead to the next
> >> generations of services for software freedom, and then mention the
> >> other.
> >
> > Sounds good to me.
> > What do you need from me or the Tomboy Online team?
> 
> Just the relevant details for the launch, how to sign up, etc.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Z
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Re: Interview with Stormy

[Paul Cutler]

On Fri, 2010-09-10 at 10:21 -0700, Jeremy Allison wrote:
> I did at GUADEC:
> 
> http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2010/09/interviews-from-guadec-part-4.html
> 
> Feel free to promote at will :-).
> 
> Jeremy.

Jeremy,

Thanks for doing all these interviews at GUADEC, I've been watching them
as they come out on the Google blog.  And thanks for dropping a note to
the list about them too.

Paul

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Re: GNOME Presentations?

[Paul Cutler]

On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 10:10 -0700, Ryan Singer wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> 
> I'm working on creating a deck of 5min presentation pieces in order to
> make it easier to create and customize presentations about GNOME and
> related topics. I was wondering if any of you have slides and / or
> video from presentations you've done about GNOME. I'm starting from
> the material on this wiki
> page: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingMaterial/Presentations ; 
> but I know that there have been many more presentations about GNOME in the 
> last few years.  I would very much appreciate any material you could throw my 
> way.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Hi Ryan,

We started to re-organize the presentations at the Marketing Hackfest
last November.  Most of them I think can be found here:

http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingMaterial/Presentations

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GNOME Journal Issue 21 released!

[Paul Cutler]

The GNOME Journal team is pleased to announce the publication of our
latest issue!  Issue 21 features 5 new articles.  Three of the below
articles are based on talks or experiences at the recent GUADEC 2010
held in The Hague.

You can read these new articles at http://www.gnomejournal.org :

* Writing simple,real-time games for GNOME by Chris Lord
* Should I get involved? by William Carlson
* Behind the Scenes with Joanmarie Diggs
* Grilo: Integrating Multimedia Content in Your Application by Iago
Toral
* Interview with Bradley Kuhn of the GNOME Advisory Board by Stormy
Peters

Thank you to all of our authors and editors for making this issue
happen.

GNOME Journal is licensed under a CC-BY-SA 3.0 license so please feel
free to translate and podcast!

Read it now:  http://www.gnome.journal.org

Paul Cutler
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Software Freedom Day

[Paul Cutler]

GNOME did a press release for Software Freedom Day
(http://softwarefreedomday.org/) last year.   This year it's Sept. 18th
- do we have any plans to celebrate SFD?

Anyone want to volunteer to organize the press release and
participation?

Paul

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Re: It's Release Notes time!

[Paul Cutler]

On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 18:36 -0500, Brian Cameron wrote:
> 
> However we want to handle it, I think we should be clear in the
> release
> notes that we have a plan in place for managing releasing ongoing
> support for GNOME 2.x, at least for a reasonable period of time.
> People reading our release notes should be assured that if their
> distro
> ends up providing only GNOME 2.x for a while, that we will continue to
> support them. 

Do we have a plan?  Has the Release Team documented this anywhere?  I
can't write about it if I don't know about it.  :)

Paul

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Re: GNOME Store - no products found.

[Paul Cutler]

On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 23:32 -0300, Valessio Brito wrote:
> "Sorry, no products found." in http://www.zazzle.com/gnome
> 
> I can help create some products?
> 
> 
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Valessio,

Thanks for letting us know - not sure where our products went, but we'll
get if fixed!

Paul

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It's Release Notes time!

[Paul Cutler]

Can you feel it in the air?  It's that time when we start writing
release notes to tell our users and developers what's coming in the next
GNOME release!

Thank you to the Anjuta team for adding some bullet points about what's
coming in GNOME 2.32.

Now I need YOUR help!

What new features does your application have?  What bug fixes?  What new
libraries have we deprecated for the GNOME 3.0 release next year? What
are the cool new things developers need to know about GNOME's
development platform to write awesome apps in GNOME 3.0? What's new in
accessibility?

This is the last (we promise!) release of the GNOME 2.x series - let's
document the release as best we can.

Add your news here:
http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointThirtyone/ReleaseNotes

Thanks in advance for the help!

Paul

PS - I've branched 2.32 in the release-notes module in GNOME git.

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Re: GSM

[Paul Cutler]

On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 12:26 -0500, Nathan Willis wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I was wondering if someone could tell me what the latest is with the
> GNOME Software Map  Is it undergoing / slated to undergo revision?
> 
> Thanks,
> Nate
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Hi Nathan,

I don't believe anyone has worked on updating the Software Map in the
last 3 or 4 years.

Paul

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Re: YouTube NFP Status for GNOME official

[Paul Cutler]

That is a really interesting idea.  Need someone who knows python.  I
idle in #boxee on Freenode, I'm happy to make an introduction to one of
the devs who's active in the channel who works on apps.

Paul

On Sat, 2010-07-10 at 09:41 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
> I hope we can create a boxxee channel too. :)
> 
> 
> sri
> 
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Paul Cutler  wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 21:18 -0500, Bryen M. Yunashko wrote:
> >
> > Is it double work to be on two sites and coordinate all
> that?  Yup.
> > Sorry.  But, like I said, we're marketers.  :-)
> 
> 
> That's the beauty of using blip.tv - It can coordinate and
> automate to
> multiple sites.
> 
> Paul
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Re: YouTube NFP Status for GNOME official

[Paul Cutler]

On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 21:18 -0500, Bryen M. Yunashko wrote:
> 
> Is it double work to be on two sites and coordinate all that?  Yup.
> Sorry.  But, like I said, we're marketers.  :-) 

That's the beauty of using blip.tv - It can coordinate and automate to
multiple sites.

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Re: YouTube NFP Status for GNOME official

[Paul Cutler]

On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 18:02 -0500, Bryen M. Yunashko wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> So, as some of you already know, Stormy and I have worked to get YouTube
> Non-Profit Status for the GNOME Foundation.  Yesterday, Google
> officially informed us that we have been granted such status.
> 
> What this means?  We can post longer videos!  YEAH!  Now we can actually
> post our talks in its entirety on the channel.  After I'm back from my
> next series of travels, I'll post the videos from our CSUN GNOME
> Hackfest.
> 
> Some things we need to think about going forth:
> 
> - This is our channel. http://www.youtube.com/user/GNOMEDesktop  Now we
> need someone to beautify the channel.  Any volunteers?
> 
> - Access:
> Currently, only Stormy and I have login access to the channel.  This can
> be a problem because
> A)   If we stay as the only access caretakers of the channel, that means
> someone who has long videos has to give it to us and we upload them.
> The problem is, how do we accept long videos from the individuals?
> Can't email it to us... too big.   
> 
> I also think neither Stormy nor I want to be the sole video uploaders to
> the site.  In theory, we should be seeing a lot of videos coming in from
> now on.  And we all have plenty on our plates as it is.
> 
> B)  If we give out the login password, how do we control this so that
> not too many people have access and end we end up having too many people
> with passwords and no way to control this.  (I sure wish Google offered
> some sort of user access management tool.)
> 
> I really don't have a good clear answer on these two issues.   How do we
> handle it elsewhere?  Any ideas/suggestions?
> 
> Bryen
> 

Hi Bryen,

Thanks for the update and the good news!

I don't know the answers, but I am also sensitive to using free software
for videos in addition to Flash at Youtube (yes, HTML5 will come
someday).  Jorge Castro and I had talked a while back about using
blip.tv to help with this process.  Talking to Jorge again (whose also
volunteered to help us set this up), we can sign up for blip.tv and FTP
up the large videos.

>From there, blip.tv will auto-transcode and transfer to both Miro (we
have a GNOME Miro channel) to use ogg (free software!) and Youtube
(which gets more views).

I don't have an answer on who, but we should find some volunteers to
help man the team.

Paul

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Re: GNOME-A11y at Ohio Linux Fest

[Paul Cutler]

Shaun McCance has talked about reaching out to some local folks about a
possible booth, not sure if he has had an opportunity yet.

Shaun, Stormy, and Bryen are giving talks, and Jim Campbell (doc writer
who works on gedit and rhythmbox and other GNOME & XFCE stuff) and
myself have also submitted talks, so we might have a good GNOME presence
there.  And Jorge will be around too.

Paul

On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 09:44 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
> The event box is available if someone wants to set up a booth. I could
> help for a while during the time I am there but I can't receive the
> box and setup.
> 
> 
> Stormy
> 
> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Bryen M. Yunashko
>  wrote:
> My GNOME-A11y talk has been accepted for the Ohio Linux Fest
> on
> September 11, 2010 in Columbus, Ohio.
> 
> I see that our esteemed Ms. Stormy Peters is going to be
> giving a
> keynote at the event as well.  I'm wondering what other GNOME
> activities
> are planned for OLF.  Maybe we can work together on some
> stuff.
> 
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Re: Facebook badge name

[Paul Cutler]

On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 17:29 +0100, Luis Medinas wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> 
> Just to announce everyone that our facebook page have a shorter alias
> (badge name) it's now possible to access it with the url:
> http://www.facebook.com/GNOMEDesktop
> 
> Currently we have 8.136 fans i think we can reach more than 10k fans
> before GNOME 3.0. I expect to do a release party on facebook to
> celebrate GNOME 3.0 release.
> 
> Cheers
> Luis 
> 

Awesome!  Nice work Luis and team.

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Re: checking in on GNOME 3 launch plans, gnome3.org

[Paul Cutler]

On Sat, 2010-06-19 at 16:15 -0400, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
>   Due to illness and travel, I haven't been checkin in enough with 
> the other participants from the May marketing hackfest
> 
> http://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/Marketing-2010-05
> 
> on the progress of the GNOME 3 marketing roadmap
> 
> http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/MarketingRoadmap
> 
> My apologies.  This coming week I'll be tying up some loose ends with 
> Stormy, Bharat, Andreas, Paul, Vincent, Jason, and Licio.
> 
> Our next big deliverable is that we're hoping to get the gnome3.org site 
> beta launched by Saturday the 26th.
> 
> Sumana Harihareswara
> http://brainwane.net

Hi Sumana,

Thanks for sending out the reminder.

I've pinged the GNOME dev community via email and my blog with little
response.  The Roadmap page is a little light, in my opinion.  I'll
reach out to Vincent and see if he has any recommendations.

Andreas pinged me a few weeks ago about working on copy for the GNOME3
website - unfortunately I haven't had time, but I will in about 10 days.
(Unless someone wants to help - we just need to write some copy and
pages for the GNOME 3 website - should be easy!)

I did reach out to Jason Clinton a couple of weeks ago about how his
video was coming too.

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Friends of GNOME website copy

[Paul Cutler]

(Oops, must have hit a shortcut key for send, sorry about that)

Anyone want to take a try at updating some of the copy on the Friends of
GNOME[1] website?

It currently says:


Thanks to donations, in 2008 we were able to:
  * Run an Accessibility Outreach Program that resulted in 6
long-term tasks completed with three more on going in
documentation, magification and mouse control through a webcam.
  * Organise a GTK+ hackfest that was widely seen as successful for
getting the GTK+ developers in the same place and was essential
to planning the future of GTK+. We plan to build on this success
by using the hackfest
  * Grow our world-wide community of developers, including holding
our first GNOME.Asia in Beijing last October.

We should update that for 2009.  Maybe talk about GCDS and some of the
hackfests[2]?

If you create the words, I'll commit it in Git.  :)

Thanks!

Paul

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[2] http://live.gnome.org/Hackfests

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Updating Friends of GNOME copy

[Paul Cutler]

Anyone want to try and create some new copy on the Friends of GNOME[1]
site?

On the right hand side, it currently says:


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Re: New donators roles

[Paul Cutler]

On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 14:28 -0300, Jonh Wendell wrote:
> Em Qua, 2010-06-02 às 11:52 -0500, Bharat Kapoor escreveu:
> 
> > John:
> >   * Can the "About" section be updated once the person has
> > installed the software? Can we push new data?
> > e.g. Any new thank yous or Donation campaigns or messages?
> 
> My idea is to have data 'of this release': In GNOME 3.0 we would show
> names that contributed to 3.0 (in the 3.0 cycle). In 3.2 we would show
> the names of who donated in 3.2 cycle. Once a version X is release, who
> donate would appear in About dialog of X+1.
> 
> >   * Also where exactly will this section reside?
> 
> It *would* reside in a new About GNOME dialog. That's my proposal. Do
> you guys agree?
> 
> Cheers,

Jason Clinton has been talking about something similar as well.

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GNOME 3.0 Roadmap - Help Needed

[Paul Cutler]

Hello GNOME Developers!

With the Release Team announcing the GNOME 3.0 moduleset and with GNOME
3.0 now under 4 months away, we need your help!

The Marketing team would like to start collecting Roadmap information
now (yes, now!) on the new features and benefits to be found in GNOME
3.0, including the Developer Platform and the applications.

We have a roadmap[2] for the marketing activities we want to do for the
GNOME 3.0 cycle and we need time to create the marketing materials,
including a GNOME 3.0 video site, brochures, presentations material and
more, and understanding the features that will be present in GNOME 3.0
is critical.

No one knows your applications like you do - please help us and add
information around the features, benefits and improvements coming in
GNOME 3.0.

Thanks.

Paul



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Re: New donators roles

[Paul Cutler]

Hi Diego,

On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 14:43 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote:
> Hi everyone
> 
> we have a long standing pending item to define how smaller companies and
> non-profit groups can associate to GNOME. This means re-thinking our
> donation options.
> 
> Currently we offer Advisory Board fees or free range donations in FoG.
> This works fine for individuals and our heavily involved AB companies,
> however we are missing out smaller companies that might want to donate
> one time or regularly and get visibility for it.
> 
> A possible layout of our options would be this:
>  - (unchanged) AB members:
>   + annual fee: 10K/20K
>   + link in foundation.gnome.org
>   + usual association and mentions
>   + AB seat
> 
>  - (unchanged) FoG (individuals):
>   + various fee options
>   + souvenirs
>   + listing in donors history page
> 
>  - (new) Company donations ("companies' FoG"):
>   + various fee ranges or case-by-case discussion
>   + logo in donors history page
>   + logo in /friends/ footer and/or other sections of gnome.org
> 
>  - (new) Supporter (mostly non-profits?):
>   + discussable fee or contribution (maybe some resource?)
>   + logo in some 2nd level page in foundation.gnome.org
>   + we keep an eye to work with you in the future
> 
> The big questions:
>  - what can we offer to companies? ideas:
>   + logo on gnome.org/friends;
>   + gnome.org/something to hold logos and links to our donors;
>   + mention in all events organised by the Foundation;
>   + "Supporter" sponsor level in the next N hackfests or events;
>   + press release for the new relationship;
>   + ask for spreading news about FoG (for example);

Yes, we need a "Commercial Supporter" tier.  I'd like us to possible do
a Gold / Silver / Bronze level possible at $1,000, $2,500 and $5,000.

> 
>  - what should we expect from/give non-profits? ideas:
>   + a small(er) fee?;
>   + link exchange;
>   + press release about the new relationship;
>   + support from them for our campaigns, like links for FoG;
>   + re-transmission of their press releases via Foundation blog?;
> 
> Currently you don't get much credit for donating as a company unless you
> get to the AB and there's no defined position or role for groups like
> guifi.net to associate with us.

Perhaps waiving the GUADEC registration fee for one or two members of
the non-profit? (Maybe do something similar for the Commercial
Supporters above as well)

There was work done at the Marketing hackfest on new brochures, they
should be included in that (or where the AdBoard is).

> 
> Also past individual donors have a not very visible list on
> gnome.org/friends/, we could have a much better display for them.
> Maybe some other concept instead of a list, maybe a big mosaic like the
> "GNOME is people" one or something?

Yes. I think celebrating our donors (who are usually users not
developers) is important.

> 
> Hope to hear from you!
> 
> Diego
> 

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Re: GNOME 3 launch plan progress

[Paul Cutler]

On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 18:37 -0400, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
> Paul, on June 1st, was set to "lead module maintainers to review
> frozen 
> module list, add details to release roadmap wiki page."  Paul, is
> that 
> still feasible? 

Hi Sumana,

I talked to Vincent briefly about this.  I am waiting for Vincent to
announce the new GNOME modules / applications and how that will work for
3.0.  Once that is announced, along with the list of modules that are
accepted in 3.0, I can move forward with this.

Thanks!

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Re: GNOME Free Agent T-shirt Proposal

[Paul Cutler]

Sounds good!

Paul

On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 21:01 -0500, Brian Cameron wrote:
> Okay, no more votes.  However, the folks at Sugar Labs made a
> small request that the text be changed a bit.
> 
>GNOME, Sugar Labs, and OLPC empower previously marginalized
>children throughout the developing world to learn, achieve, and
>transform their communities.
> 
> That seems reasonable to me.  Does this sound good to people?
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> On 05/21/10 02:04 PM, Brian Cameron wrote:
> >
> > Out of the discussion so far I like 3 choices:
> >
> > #1) The original text
> >
> > GNOME technologies power SugarLabs and OLPC to help previously
> > marginalized children throughout the developing world learn,
> > achieve and begin to transform their communities.
> >
> > #2) Shorter version
> >
> > GNOME powers SugarLabs and OLPC
> > Globally providing children with tools to
> > learn, achieve, and transform their world.
> >
> > #3) Really short version
> >
> > GNOME powers SugarLabs and OLPC
> > Enabling children to transform their world.
> >
> > Let's vote. I pick #2. I know Dave & Paul picked #1.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> > On 05/19/10 09:27 PM, Paul Cutler wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2010-05-19 at 22:12 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Bryen M. Yunashko wrote:
> >>>> I like this revision much better. If we're still looking to shorten
> >>>> it, how about "Globally providing" instead of "A global effort
> >>>> providing"?
> >>>
> >>> I really liked the long flowing wordy version - a great message, great
> >>> conversation starter, and the text was part of the design. I would love
> >>> to wear the t-shirt with the initial design.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Dave.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Dave Neary
> >>> GNOME Foundation member
> >>> dne...@gnome.org
> >>
> >> After (finally!) catching up on this thread just now (great to see all
> >> the activity on the marketing list!) I agree with Dave.
> >>
> >> Reading through some of the text / copy suggestions and putting my
> >> documentation hat, I think to Brian's point of educating what GNOME is
> >> powering / member of an ecosystem I'd leave it as it is in the first
> >> design. I like how it flows as well on the shirt itself.
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >
> 


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Re: screen shot?

[Paul Cutler]

I don't think so.  Doc screenshots are discouraged (due to maintaining)
and typically are per-app.  

The only ones that pop into my mind are release notes (like
http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.28/) but don't have a ton
of apps either.

Paul


On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 13:37 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
> Do we have some good screenshots from the documentation that we could
> use?
> 
> 
> Stormy
> 
> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Paul Cutler 
> wrote:
> For GNOME documentation, we prefer a distro who doesn't
> replace the
> GNOME foot in the main menu and prefer Clearlooks as the
> default theme.
> 
> Paul
> 
> On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 13:27 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
> 
> 
> > Zonker,
> >
> >
> > I'd like a nice clean screenshot that highlights GNOME apps.
> I think
> > we talked about this in some forum. Maybe at the marketing
> hackfest?
> >
> >
> > We should put it on the marketing wiki under the
> presentation
> > materials page.
> >
> >
> > Any free and open distro is fine with me, preferably from
> one of our
> > adboard sponsors.
> >
> >
> > Stormy
> >
> >
> > P.S. I do know how to take a screen shot. :) But I have tons
> of stuff
> > on my desktop, a broken icon in the top bar, etc. And really
> funky
> > colors at the moment from my last upgrade.
> >
> > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
> >  wrote:
> > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Stormy Peters
> >  wrote:
> > > Does anybody have a good GNOME screen shot to be
> used in an
> > article about
> > > GNOME?
> >
> >
> > I can come up with some... which distro you
> want? :-) Any
> > specifications?
> >
> > I can send directly... I doubt the list likes
> attachments...
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Zonker
> > --
> > Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier 
> > About: http://www.dissociatedpress.net/about/
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: screen shot?

[Paul Cutler]

For GNOME documentation, we prefer a distro who doesn't replace the
GNOME foot in the main menu and prefer Clearlooks as the default theme.

Paul

On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 13:27 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
> Zonker,
> 
> 
> I'd like a nice clean screenshot that highlights GNOME apps. I think
> we talked about this in some forum. Maybe at the marketing hackfest?
> 
> 
> We should put it on the marketing wiki under the presentation
> materials page.
> 
> 
> Any free and open distro is fine with me, preferably from one of our
> adboard sponsors.
> 
> 
> Stormy
> 
> 
> P.S. I do know how to take a screen shot. :) But I have tons of stuff
> on my desktop, a broken icon in the top bar, etc. And really funky
> colors at the moment from my last upgrade.
> 
> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
>  wrote:
> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Stormy Peters
>  wrote:
> > Does anybody have a good GNOME screen shot to be used in an
> article about
> > GNOME?
> 
> 
> I can come up with some... which distro you want? :-) Any
> specifications?
> 
> I can send directly... I doubt the list likes attachments...
> 
> Best,
> 
> Zonker
> --
> Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier 
> About: http://www.dissociatedpress.net/about/
> 
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Re: GNOME Free Agent T-shirt Proposal

[Paul Cutler]

On Wed, 2010-05-19 at 22:12 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Bryen M. Yunashko wrote:
> > I like this revision much better.   If we're still looking to shorten
> > it,  how about "Globally providing" instead of "A global effort
> > providing"?
> 
> I really liked the long flowing wordy version - a great message, great
> conversation starter, and the text was part of the design. I would love
> to wear the t-shirt with the initial design.
> 
> Cheers,
> Dave.
> 
> -- 
> Dave Neary
> GNOME Foundation member
> dne...@gnome.org

After (finally!) catching up on this thread just now (great to see all
the activity on the marketing list!) I agree with Dave.

Reading through some of the text / copy suggestions and putting my
documentation hat, I think to Brian's point of educating what GNOME is
powering / member of an ecosystem I'd leave it as it is in the first
design.  I like how it flows as well on the shirt itself.

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Re: Joining Gnome

[Paul Cutler]

On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 15:05 -0300, Eder Marques wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I am Eder L. Marques from Brazil, aka frolic, and I am a member of
> Debian Community, acting as sysadmin/security analyst for the last 10 years.
> 
> Currently I am involved with i10n/i18n in Debian. I would like to get
> involved with gnome project. My academic background (BA and MSc) is
> focused on Management, so I may I can contribute a little with gnome
> marketing, specially in Brazil.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> - -- 
> Eder L. Marques

Eder,

Welcome!  Now is a great time to get involved with the marketing team.
We just wrapped up a hackfest a week ago to start laying our plans for
marketing GNOME 3.0 later this year and we have lots of ideas and tasks
for everyone to get involved in.

I'd recommend reviewing some of the content on the GNOME Marketing wiki
page[1] and if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

Paul

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Re: GNOME 3 launch plans & request for participation

[Paul Cutler]

On Wed, 2010-05-12 at 10:56 -0300, Rodrigo Padula wrote:
> Hello guys!
> 
> I'm really interested to build a marketing plan to spread GNOME 3 in Latam.
> 
> I'm thinking to do something as pre-release in FISL(Brasil) and FUDCon 
> Latam(Chile).
> 
> Where can I find more information about our actual plans?
> 
> Saudações livres! :-)
> 
> -- 
> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
> http://www.rodrigopadula.com
> http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula
> 

Rodrigo,

We just had a marketing hackfest last week.  Our roadmap for what we
hope to accomplish is here:

http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/MarketingRoadmap

The wiki has a ton of information as well and if you're looking for
something specific that you don't see, please ask:
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing

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Re: GNOME 3 launch plans & request for participation

[Paul Cutler]

Sumana, nice work!  Comments below:

On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 00:36 -0400, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
> Please take a look at the master GNOME 3 launch marketing roadmap here to 
> check your next tasks:
> 
> http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/MarketingRoadmap
> 
> Is it right?  Have I mistakenly said you own something that you don't? 
> Please also feel free to add items I've forgotten or add more details.
> 
> I'm also updating http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/Tasks with tasks 
> that we need to do.  And tomorrow (Tuesday 11 May) I'll be updating our 
> talking points and writing up our thoughtleadership/GNOME Ambassadors plan 
> and the hackfest postmortem/review.

It all looks good to me.
> 
> Some open questions:
> 
>   Who will write the press release about this hackfest & Zaragoza? 
> I've put a request on the Press Team page.

A few of us who were at the event should put together a first draft as
the Press Team might not have context.  I would guess they'd be happy to
edit it after a first draft is ready.

>   Shall I write up my notes on the Zaragoza and Seville 
> presentations we got, or give them to Stormy or some other appointed 
> blogger?
>   Who is PMing the gnome.org reboot?  I have a note here to talk to 
> Paul or Vincent.

I pinged Lucas.  We are tentatively planning a Web team meeting for
Sunday, May 23rd.

I can't thank you enough for putting this together.

Paul

> 
> 
> Sumana Harihareswara
> http://brainwane.net
> 
> On Sat, 8 May 2010, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
> > I'm back in New York City.  This weekend I'll fix up my notes, put 
> > things up on the wiki, finish blogging about the hackfest, and send out 
> > some next-steps reminders.  You should see those by Monday.
> >
> > best,
> > Sumana


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Re: Attending SELF?

[Paul Cutler]

On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 18:17 -0400, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote:
> Do we have anyone on the list thinking about attending SELF? They're
> looking for someone to work a GNOME booth, and it'd be good if we
> could field someone for the event. I might be going, but that's not
> definite so I'm hesitant to claim booth duty for the event.
> 
> SELF will be June 11-13 in Spartanburg, SC.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Zonker
> 
> -- 
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> About: http://www.dissociatedpress.net/about/

Zonker,

I haven't heard of anyone attending yet.

Anyone want to volunteer? Or in the southeast region of the US that can
help? Regional Linux conferences are fun!

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Re: Gnome in Latam

[Paul Cutler]

On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 01:52 -0300, Rodrigo Padula wrote:
> Hello Guys,
> 
> My name is Rodrigo Padula, I'm Brazilian and I'm responsible by the 
> Fedora Project in Latam since 2005.
> 
> I'm joining to the Gnome Project now and I'm very motivated to help to 
> spread and increase the contribution to Gnome, mainly in Latam and Brasil.
> 
> Best regards!
> 
> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
> http://www.rodrigopadula.com
> http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula

Welcome Rodrigo!

Now is a great time to join as we just finished a Marketing hackfest
last week and have all kind of ideas about stuff we want to do with this
year with GNOME 3.0 coming.

Brasil has a large and vibrant GNOME community - glad to have you join!

Paul

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Re: WorldWide

[Paul Cutler]

On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 18:13 -0400, Alex Launi wrote:
> From the caption on that page..
> The data provided by this page is regularly uploaded to
> GNOME's Orbital Laser Platform. The target visualisation
> display is updated irregularly for the time being. You can
> find an alternative target visualisation of the GNOME
> community at Google Maps.
> 
> 
> So no. 
> 
> 
> -- 
> --Alex Launi
> 

I'm not sure I understand - I thought the graph is updated when a name
with it's latitude / longitude is added.



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Re: GNOME Store

[Paul Cutler]

On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 08:55 -0700, Sandy Armstrong wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Bryen M. Yunashko  
> wrote:
> > The one that I really liked and would have bought in an instant was the
> > Freedom Lover t-shirt.  But it apparently is only sold as a women's
> > shirt.
> 
> I'd like to second this.  Is there any reason we can't offer each
> design in both men's and women's styles?
> 
> Also a big fan of the Freedom Lover shirt.
> 
> Sandy

This part of the Zazzle site isn't that intuitive but any of the designs
can be bought on any kind of shirt.

* Select the Freedom Lover Ladies shirt
* Under "Choose your style and color" select from Men, Women, Kid, Baby
or See All (I selected Men)
* Now choose from all the different styles of shirts
* Price will change depending on which shirt you choose
* Purchase

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Re: GNOME Store

[Paul Cutler]

On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 10:11 +, Juanjo Marín wrote:
> 
> 
> --- El mar, 27/4/10, Stormy Peters  escribió:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I miss a GNOME love t-shirt. It's a lovely design :)
> 
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/behdad/2315763245/
> 
> 
> Perhaps at some point we ought to advertise it in the banner
> space on gnome.org and/or Planet GNOME?
> 
> 
> 
> Good idea !!! :)
> 
> 
>   -- Juanjo
> 

We made a conscious decision *not* to sell the GNOME Love shirt as
Friends of GNOME donors get that shirt after one year of monthly
donations.

Those who donate get the best shirt.  :)

Paul

PS - It's April, my one year is up, I can't wait for my GNOME Love
shirt.  :)



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Marketing Hackfest Kickoff - GNOME 3.0 Website Feedback Requested

[Paul Cutler]

Hi,

We're just a couple of weeks away from the Marketing Hackfest.  One of
the ideas that's come up is to have a GNOME 3.0 specific website (or
subsite).  I don't know if this means it will use the new Plone CMS
that's currently being set up or something else, but for the moment
that's not important.

I'd like to gather community feedback (that's you!) on what you'd like
to see a GNOME 3.0 website feature.

Please reply to the list - everyone's feedback is welcome!

Thanks.

Best,

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Re: Friends of GNOME ruler still up, says "114 to go"

[Paul Cutler]

On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 17:07 +0100, Lucas Rocha wrote:
> Oh, and updated the Friends of GNOME page accordingly.
> 
> --lucasr
> 
> 
> 2010/4/9 Lucas Rocha :
> > Hi,
> >
> > 2010/4/9 Lucas Rocha :
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> 2010/4/8 Paul Cutler :
> >>> On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 17:45 -0400, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
> >>>> On planet.gnome.org, I see the donation ruler still asks for donations 
> >>>> for
> >>>> hiring a sysadmin, and says "$114 to go!"  Who should/can take that down
> >>>> now that the goal's reached?
> >>>>
> >>>> Sumana Harihareswara
> >>>> http://brainwane.net
> >>>
> >>> Andreas is helping to create a thank you banner to replace the ruler
> >>> with.  I looked through the code of a couple of the websites this is on,
> >>> but I'm going to need Lucas' help (or another webhacker) to replace it
> >>> once we have the files from Andreas (I was looking for you today but
> >>> forgot to send an email until now!)
> >>>
> >>> Lucas, do you think you might be able to help?
> >>
> >> Yep. Just send me the banner and I'll put it online.
> >
> > FYI: The ruler is now updated with a thankful message. Thanks Andreas
> > for the design!
> >
> > --lucasr
> >

Thanks so much Lucas!

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Re: Friends of GNOME ruler still up, says "114 to go"

[Paul Cutler]

On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 17:45 -0400, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
> On planet.gnome.org, I see the donation ruler still asks for donations for 
> hiring a sysadmin, and says "$114 to go!"  Who should/can take that down 
> now that the goal's reached?
> 
> Sumana Harihareswara
> http://brainwane.net

Andreas is helping to create a thank you banner to replace the ruler
with.  I looked through the code of a couple of the websites this is on,
but I'm going to need Lucas' help (or another webhacker) to replace it
once we have the files from Andreas (I was looking for you today but
forgot to send an email until now!)

Lucas, do you think you might be able to help?

Thanks.

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[Fwd: Team updates needed for the 2010 Q1 GNOME Quarterly Report by Wednesday, April 14th]

[Paul Cutler]

Hi Marketing team!

Does anyone want to help put together the team update for the first
quarter?  Let me know, the help would be appreciated!

Thanks.

Paul
--- Begin Message ---
Thanks everyone for your help with past reports - we continue to get
positive feedback! It's time for the Q1, January-March, 2010 report.

Please send your updates in by Wednesday, April 14th.  I will then get the
report out by Friday, April 23rd. (With Vinicius' help. :)

Here's the list of people I have. Let me know if I'm missing anyone or it
should be someone else.

   - Release Team -- Vincent Untz
   - Art Team -- Andreas Nilsson
   - Accessibility Team -- Willie Walker
   - Usability Team -- Calum Benson
   - Bug Squad -- Andre Klapper
   - Marketing Team -- Paul Cutler
   - Sysadmin Team -- Paul Cutler
   - Mobile -- Dave Neary
   - Website -- Lucas Rocha
   - Localization -- Simos Xenitellis
   - Documentation Team -- Shaun McCance
   - Events - Stormy Peters (looking for an enthusiastic reporter!)
   - Membership - Tobias Mueller
   - Finance - Germán Póo-Caamaño
   - Travel Committee - Bharath Acharya
   - Board Report - Brian Cameron
   - Women's Outreach - Marina Zhurakhinskaya

Remember, an update, any update (short, brief, long, not perfect) is better
than no update. I'll proof read and spell check.

Most people run their reports by the team mailing list before sending them
to me - I think that is a great idea.

Thanks!

Stormy

P.S. Here's are the reports for reference:
http://foundation.gnome.org/reports/
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Friends of GNOME Badges

[Paul Cutler]

Hi Marketing team,

One of the questions that came up this past Saturday in the Foundation
meeting was making the Friends of GNOME badges[1] more visible.

Today, we display the page[1] after someone contributes and they're also
linked on the Friends page[2] in the upper right hand corner.

I just updated gnome.org to link to them as well (on the far right by
the Donate button).

Does anyone have more suggestions where else or how else we could
display them?  Even for someone who's not a subscriber, there's no
reason they can't add one to their blog.

Love to your suggestions!

Thanks.

Paul

[1] http://www.gnome.org/friends/promote.html
[2] http://www.gnome.org/friends/




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Upcoming GNOME Marketing Hackfest

[Paul Cutler]

If you are interested in coming to the upcoming GNOME Hackfest in
Zaragoza, Spain May 4th - 7th[1], please let us know!

Our local organizers have asked for the number of attendees as they are
booking hotel reservations.  If you are interested in coming, and
haven't filled out the Travel Subsidy form[2] but would like to come,
please let us know as soon as possible.

Thanks.

Paul

[1] http://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/Marketing-2010-05
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Re: The ruler is a great success!

[Paul Cutler]

On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 16:34 +0100, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
> 2010/3/23 Luis Medinas :
> > On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 15:37 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
> >> Hi Fellow GNOME Marketing team members,
> >>
> >> The ruler has been a great success. Thanks to everyone who worked on
> >> it and provided feedback.
> >>
> >> In the past 24 hours we've raised about $1,000 from individuals and
> >> had another $5,000 company match.
> >>
> >> I would like to keep the momentum going. I've blogged about it. Are
> >> others willing to blog about it over the next couple of days?
> >>
> >
> > Count on me... in 24h i'll blog about it.
> > Thanks everyone!
> 
> I just covered it on my blog (http://robertogaloppini.net), very cool!
> 
> Best,
> 
> Roberto

Roberto, thanks for blogging about this.  I also blogged about it this
morning and linked to you too.

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Re: Friends of GNOME Ruler

[Paul Cutler]

Thanks, I'll take a look.

Paul

On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 13:57 +, Lucas Rocha wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> 
> 2010/3/25 Paul Cutler :
> > Lucas,
> >
> > Is there a chance you can take another look at the ruler?  For
> > library.gnome.org (specifically for the release notes) the ruler seems
> > to be fixed width and when you resize your browser it looks funny.
> >
> > The 2.30 release notes are here:
> > http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.30/
> > (gnome / 2.28 to login)
> 
> As I said before, the ruler needs to be added inside the ''page" div,
> just after the "header" div. It looks like the ruler is being placed
> *after* the "page" div. Could you try that?
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> --lucasr
> 
> 
> > On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 16:17 +, Lucas Rocha wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> 2010/3/23 Stormy Peters :
> >> > FYI, since this has gone live we've gotten 10 donations for a total of 
> >> > $775
> >> > plus 2 new subscribers for an immediate donation of $20.
> >> >
> >> > So $795 since yesterday! We should update the ruler regularly as long as 
> >> > the
> >> > pace is up. (This money plus the rest of March.)
> >> >
> >> > Lucas, should I send new numbers to you?
> >>
> >> Forgot to say: yes, you can send the new numbers to me :-)
> >>
> >> --lucasr
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Frederic Peters  
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > > On 03/23/2010 08:49 AM, Frederic Peters wrote:
> >> >> > > >I couldn't get it to fill the whole width, as it conflicted with 
> >> >> > > >the
> >> >> > > >sidebar which is position: absolute; but here it is in place:
> >> >> > > >   http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.28/
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > That page is broken for me now (Firefox 3.5.8 on Fedora 12).
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I see nothing below the Home/Users/Admin... tabs.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > It works with Epiphany; I'd be happy to apply any patch to make it
> >> >> > work with Firefox (can't test it at the moment).
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks to the amazing insight of Vincent, this has now been fixed.
> >> >>
> >> >> He's definitely my hero.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Frederic
> >> >> --
> >> >> marketing-list mailing list
> >> >> marketing-list@gnome.org
> >> >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
> >


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Re: Friends of GNOME Ruler

[Paul Cutler]

Lucas,

Is there a chance you can take another look at the ruler?  For
library.gnome.org (specifically for the release notes) the ruler seems
to be fixed width and when you resize your browser it looks funny.

The 2.30 release notes are here:
http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.30/
(gnome / 2.28 to login)

Thanks.

Paul

On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 16:17 +, Lucas Rocha wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 2010/3/23 Stormy Peters :
> > FYI, since this has gone live we've gotten 10 donations for a total of $775
> > plus 2 new subscribers for an immediate donation of $20.
> >
> > So $795 since yesterday! We should update the ruler regularly as long as the
> > pace is up. (This money plus the rest of March.)
> >
> > Lucas, should I send new numbers to you?
> 
> Forgot to say: yes, you can send the new numbers to me :-)
> 
> --lucasr
> 
> 
> > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Frederic Peters  wrote:
> >>
> >> > > On 03/23/2010 08:49 AM, Frederic Peters wrote:
> >> > > >I couldn't get it to fill the whole width, as it conflicted with the
> >> > > >sidebar which is position: absolute; but here it is in place:
> >> > > >   http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.28/
> >> > >
> >> > > That page is broken for me now (Firefox 3.5.8 on Fedora 12).
> >> > >
> >> > > I see nothing below the Home/Users/Admin... tabs.
> >> >
> >> > It works with Epiphany; I'd be happy to apply any patch to make it
> >> > work with Firefox (can't test it at the moment).
> >>
> >> Thanks to the amazing insight of Vincent, this has now been fixed.
> >>
> >> He's definitely my hero.
> >>
> >>
> >>Frederic
> >> --
> >> marketing-list mailing list
> >> marketing-list@gnome.org
> >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
> >
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Re: Friends of GNOME Ruler

[Paul Cutler]

On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 12:56 +, Lucas Rocha wrote:
> Hi Frederic,
> 
> 2010/3/23 Frederic Peters :
> > Lucas Rocha wrote:
> >
> >> > Frédéric: what do you think about putting the ruler on lib.g.o? I guess
> >> > the most important place would be the 2.30 release notes. We just need
> >> > to add:
> >> >   >> > src="http://www.gnome.org/friends/ruler/ruler.js";>
> >> > somewhere at the beginning of the page.
> >>
> >> Yeah, should be as simple as that. Just add after the 'header' div.
> >
> > I couldn't get it to fill the whole width, as it conflicted with the
> > sidebar which is position: absolute; but here it is in place:
> >  http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.28/
> 
> IIUC, you have to place the ruler div inside the 'page' div just after
> the 'header' div.
> 
> --lucasr

I'll be finishing the release notes and sending them out for review this
morning for 2.30.  I'll try and add this and see if it works.

Thanks again for doing this Lucas!

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Re: Facebook GNOME page

[Paul Cutler]

On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 14:43 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
> I like the idea of contests with tshirts as prizes. (Can we give out a
> Facebook badge? Is it possible to do that - give a badge to a select
> few like Facebook sells pretend teddy bears and bananas? Anybody
> know?)
> 
> More ideas for contests folks?
> 
>- what's cool abt gnome
>  
> Maybe go for most creative "cool about GNOME"?
>  
> 
>- I showed gnome to my mother/friend/teacher ande this is
> what he/she said
> 
> Maybe go for funniest thing someone said?
> 
> Stormy 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Bharat Kapoor <3.kap...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Stormy
> 
> How abt using this as an avenue to further ur idea abt
> engaging users.
> 
> How about we create a plan for facebook and we could do the
> following:
> - Contests (what I don't know)
>- how I use gnome
>- what's cool abt gnome
>- I showed gnome to my mother/friend/teacher ande this is
> what he/she said
> - we could definitely run some quiz (and give gnome shirts as
> prizes) - maybe on a monthly basis
> - seek feedback 
> 
> 
> We can try to do the same on linkedin.
> 
> My 2 cents
> Bharat
> 
> > 
> > On 2010-03-17 3:31 PM, "Stormy Peters" 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Hi GNOME Marketing folks,
> > 
> > I think we are missing an opportunity to reach out to our
> > users via Facebook - see the stats below. 6,464 fans!!!
> > 
> > I also attached a couple of screenshots of our "insights".
> > It was interesting to see how the interactive fans compared
> > to all the fans as a whole.
> > 
> > I don't think we should immediately go on Facebook and ask
> > for money. I do think we should figure out how to more
> > actively engage these folks. At the very least we should
> > monitor the page and comment on people's posts. We could
> > also test out marketing campaigns, myths and myth busters
> > for GNOME 3.
> > 
> > So if you aren't on the page[1], go join. Especially if you
> > are an active Facebook member. Then take a few minutes to
> > read through, comment on people's posts, and think about how
> > we can actively engage with these folks.
> > 
> > Stormy
> > 
> > [1] http://www.facebook.com/pages/GNOME/5758174322
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Here is this week's summary for the Facebook Page:
> > GNOME
> > 
> > +66 Fans this week (6,464 total Fans)
> > 15 Wall Posts, Comments, and Likes this week (10
> > last week)
> > 478 Visits to your page this week (485 Visits last
> > week)
> > 
> > Update your Fans:
> > http://www.facebook.com/n/?pages%2FGNOME%
> > 
> 2F5758174322&v=wall&mid=20b3694G2dd261G0G66&n_m=stormy%40alumni.rice.edu
> > Visit your Insights Page:
> > http://www.facebook.com/n/?business%2Finsights%
> > 
> 2F&pages&i=5758174322&mid=20b3694G2dd261G0G66&n_m=stormy%40alumni.rice.edu
> > Get more Fans with Facebook Ads:
> > http://www.facebook.com/n/?ads%2Fcreate%
> > 
> 2F&src=pg_edit&fbid=5758174322&mid=20b3694G2dd261G0G66&n_m=stormy%40alumni.rice.edu
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > The Facebook Team
> > 
> > ==
> > =
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
> > 
> 

I like the contests idea - one of the secrets to success in using social
media is to update often - whether it's with news, contests, updates,
etc.

How can we put a plan together with 2-3 updates a week to keep it
relevant?

I agree with Stormy that Facebook could be a great tool for
communication with our user base, and I like the idea of two way
communication.

Off the top of my head, I think Netflix does a good job on Facebook
where they will post a couple times a week with an open ended question
about movies to get their fans involved.

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Re: Banner for the event boxes

[Paul Cutler]

On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 10:35 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Stormy Peters wrote:
> > We use the GNOME event boxes to set up tables (i.e. "booths") at free
> > software events.
> > 
> > The US event box does not have a banner!
> > 
> > I think it would be great to have one that could be draped in front of
> > the table, since often the booth is really a table. I'm thinking those
> > plastic like ones that can easily be folded or rolled up inside the box
> > but are pretty durable so they'd last a while.
> 
> Best for the box would be a flodable cloth one - not too heavy, but a
> printed cotton banner would be great, and not that expensive to do I think.
> 
> Cheers,
> Dave.
> 
> -- 
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> GNOME Foundation member
> dne...@gnome.org

I pinged Sean Wilson (SArtist) in #gnome-art - he's volunteered to help
create the artwork / text for a banner.  If you have any ideas to share,
feel free to ping him.

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Re: Branding of GNOME-hosted Tomboy Online

[Paul Cutler]

I think Shaun has some interesting ideas:

On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 09:36 -0600, Shaun McCance wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 07:06 -0800, Sandy Armstrong wrote:
> > With the understanding that we could always rebrand before this
> > deployment is open to the public, does anyone take issue with using
> > the "Tomboy Online" brand as we begin alpha testing?
> 
> I would really like to see this be the starting point for
> Gnome offering more web services.  I would love to sync
> things like my Hamster database or my GTG items.

Well, damn - I don't want to start the whole Roadmap discussion again
that we recently saw on the Foundation list, but this tickles my brain.
With Google SoC coming up, is there any way we can brainstorm in time to
think about what apps might be interesting to extend GNOME Online
Services?  These are really two interesting ideas.  (And I don't have
enough information about what the Abiword team is up to).

> 
> If we have multiple services, and you have to sign up,
> we certainly don't want people to have to sign up to
> each of them separately.  So I'd like us to keep in
> mind how this whole system can be extended.
> 

I have no idea what a single sign-on service in the future looks like
nor am I the right person to scope it, but this is something we should
keep in the back of our heads.  How does Snowy / Tomboy Online handle
user logins?  (Probably best to discuss on the Snowy list, but anyway)

> On the other hand, we absolutely should not block doing
> something useful right now for a grand vision.  We can
> grow this in pieces, if we're smart about it.

Agreed - we shouldn't block on this right now.  I personally want to see
Tomboy Online as part of the GNOME 3.0 launch plans and now is go time.

> 
> And on another other hand, I don't have any problems
> with Tomboy maintaining its own brand in this whole
> shebang.
> 
> --
> Shaun
> 
> 

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Re: Branding of GNOME-hosted Tomboy Online

[Paul Cutler]

On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 10:20 -0500, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Sandy Armstrong
>  wrote:
> > With the understanding that we could always rebrand before this
> > deployment is open to the public, does anyone take issue with using
> > the "Tomboy Online" brand as we begin alpha testing?
> 
> I probably know the answer to this, but just figured it's worth asking:
> 
> Is the Tomboy name trademarked, and is there any potential issue with
> the trademark for the Tomboy name / brand?
> 
> I like Dave's suggestion of GNOME Notes too.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Zonker
> -- 
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> About: http://www.dissociatedpress.net/about/

I'd like to see us use Tomboy Online in the short term.  GNOME Notes is
intriguing from a GNOME branding standpoint, but in my opinion, Tomboy
is one of the best cross-platform apps we have on the GNOME Platform,
with Tomboy working in Windows and Mac OS X.  I think "GNOME Notes"
might limit us in that regard.

I don't know (or can't think of right now, darn this head cold) a
sub-branding strategy that might work.  I know this is tactical, but
even in the "About" page on Tomboy Online I'd think we can give
attribution to GNOME and how Tomboy Online is hosted on the GNOME
infrastructure or ask for donations there.

Lastly, if and when we have more GNOME web services, we could discuss a
more unified branding strategy, but right now as Tomboy is the first
AGPL service GNOME is launching, I'd recommend going forward with Tomboy
Online.

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Organizing the Marketing Team

[Paul Cutler]

We as a team have done a lot of great stuff over the last year and since
I became more active with the team I've tried to help out with
scheduling meetings, a BoF at GUADEC and our first hackfest.  I've never
considered myself a marketer and just tried to help get stuff done.

Looking forward, I may have less time to spend than I would hope, and
one suggestion is to form a number of sub-teams focused on specific
tasks and goals, which I think is a great idea as we think about all the
stuff we want to do this year.

Some of the groupings that jump out at me:

* GNOME 3.0 promotion
* GNOME 3.0 video creation /promotion
* Fundraising (Friends of GNOME, GNOME Store, Mobile giving) (Jaap has
done a great job helping Stormy with the Friends of GNOME program from
helping analyze the data to updating the site)
* User Analysis (stolen from John Williams email last month)
* GNOME Website (Darton is doing an awesome job revamping content for
the new website)
* GNOME Materials (Conference presentations, brochures, etc)

We are all volunteers and help GNOME in our spare time - who is willing
to help with some of the tasks above?  How would you organize them or
what is missing?  Can you volunteer to lead one of these initiatives?
You'll need to help organize the tasks, find people to help, and each
quarter give a brief (few sentence update) for the quarterly report.

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Re: Emergency marketing team meeting

[Paul Cutler]

On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 10:58 -0600, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Jason D. Clinton
>  wrote:
> Let's meet to discuss candidly on #marketing.
> 
> In order to facilitate the meeting going quickly and with a minimal
> amount of straying off-topic, I would like to hear on this list in
> advance if there is anyone whom disagrees with the following premise
> or whom feels that it needs slight modification:
> 
> 
> From a marketing perspective we, publicly, cannot promise
> anything as radically disruptive as proposed by the UX
> Hackfest brainstorming sessions for delivery *after* Gnome 3.0
> (whenever that release may be.) Such a strategy would have the
> following outcomes:
>  1. It would make our desktop look like 3.0 is half-baked
>  2. It would make us look like we're experimenting on our
> user base
>  3. It would make our desktop environment look unstable
> On the other hand, should such changes happen
> organically--that is, not part of a narrative about what Gnome
> 3 is--then so be it.
> 
> 
> Please make your feelings known if you disagree in advance of the
> meeting so that we all start from the same frame of reference.
> 
> 

Jason, I do share your concerns.

Have you (or anyone else) reached out to the GNOME Shell team to discuss
a possible roadmap?

I'm also concerned as the GNOME Activity Journal has not been proposed
as a module yet.

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Re: GNOME Store Update?

[Paul Cutler]

On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 13:22 +0100, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> On 01/18/2010 04:41 PM, Paul Cutler wrote:
> > On 01/13/2010 04:52 PM, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> >> * Add two more products so we get a nice 3x3 grid of gear (plus points
> >> if it's not t-shirts).
> >> * A nicer header.
> > As a follow up from the Marketing meeting last week, I've added the
> > request to the ArtRequest page on lgo[1] with more detail here[2].
> Done and fixed on http://www.zazzle.com/gnome
> The css is now a lot cleaner and the whole thing looks more ready.
> A bunch of the graphics is currently hosted on my own web server, so 
> that probably needs to be migrated before launch (hosting it on Zazzle 
> itself produced very evidently compressed jpg-images in the few cases 
> where it actually worked).
> Apart from that, I think we're ready to launch this together with 2.30!
> - Andreas

Andreas,

Thanks so much for doing this.

One small change - can you take down the GNOME Love t-shirt?  This is
the t-shirt those who donate to Friends of GNOME.

Thanks!

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Re: Mobile Giving Foundation

[Paul Cutler]

On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 08:53 -0700, Stormy Peters wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Bharat Kapoor <3.kap...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> Whats the process, when I know I have a go ahead to get the
> paperwork ready for the vendor - they have sent it to me and I
> am just sitting on them waiting for our team's approval.
> 
> How about putting together the launch plan first?
> 
> Stormy
> 
Bharat,

Is there any chance we could launch this by the end of the month?  I
know it's aggressive, but we could use the 2.30 release notes to
announce it - there's already a section in the release notes talking
about Friends of GNOME, and that section could use an update.

How can I help?

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Re: Reboot: Strategic goals for GNOME

[Paul Cutler]

On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 11:15 -0600, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 3:09 AM, Dave Neary  wrote:
>  vision for GNOME 2.x did.Back in February, I posted the
> following - it
> kind of got lost in the ensuing thread; but I think it's worth
> breaking
> out into a new discussion (marketing list CCed). Like I say,
> I'm not
> happy with the "vision" part of this (GNOME everywhere, and
> invisible)
> because it doesn't offer a destination - it doesn't help
> anyone make
> decisions about what's important - in the way that the
> "simple, usable,
> beautiful" But perhaps it's the beginning of a vision that we
> can work on?
> 
> 
> Hi Dave;
> 
> 
> Let me update you on what the marketing team did at the Chicago
> hackfest in mid-November[1][2] since we haven't yet made
> our announcements.
> 
> 
> The most difficult thing that we did at the hackfest was to settle on
> a short-term vision for Gnome 3 which will, I think, help shape this
> discussion about medium-to-long term. Our starting point was this
> email from Vincent:
> . 
> We interpreted that directive to mean that all Gnome marketing efforts should 
> be directed at the first point: selling users on the revamped user experience.
> 
> 
> This is--perhaps--slightly different from how a corporation marketing
> department operates: finding what the market wants and then directing
> engineering resources at that. Instead, Gnome 3 is whatever it will be
> and it's our job to take that and sell it to our audience. Here is
> what we (then) saw Gnome 3 as:
> 
> 
> There was wide ranging discussion about what GNOME 3.0 is and
> how much of a change it is. We talked with each other about
> what each of the proposed technologies will bring to the end
> user experience: tightly integrated search,
> application-oriented window management, dynamic workspace
> workflows, temporally oriented document location (Journal),
> interruption suppression (message tray), and user interface
> physicality (via window and Shell chrome animations). There
> was also agreement that aside from "3.0" technologies, there's
> a number of long-stewing features coming to fruition that can
> also be emphasized: Telepathy, for example.
> 
> 
> There was an observation that we're achieving a new level of
> tight integration throughout the desktop environment. Think of
> IM notifications with rapid dismissal in the messaging tray in
> Shell. Or, think of Empathy sharing your Desktop with you
> friend via Telepathy without you needing to open a firewall
> port. Another example could be how both the Journal and
> Tracker technologies (potentially) tightly integrated with the
> Shell UI.
> 
> The following morning that was boiled down to:
> 
> 
> First, we agreed upon the themes--the Shell, the search work,
> the new levels of cross-application integration--all
> substantially advance the release team's primary point of the
> 3.0 release: a better user experience.
> 
> We went through over a hundred themes before we settled on what Gnome
> 3's marketing theme will be: "Made of Easy." (Pause for dramatic
> effect.)
> 
> 
> Up until this past week, I was really happy with that. When I saw
> Seth's blog post and the subsequent press coverage, I understood that
> the Gnome 3 marketing train had just gone off the rails. What, until
> then, had been a well-defined expansion of our user experience in
> Gnome 3.0 had just been radically re-cast as what can either be seen
> as a partially implemented, half-baked version of our long-term vision
> for Gnome 3.x's usability end-game or, worse, a experiment thrust on
> our users until we figure out what Gnome 3.x will be.
> 
> 
> Let me state this clearly: until last week, Gnome 3.0 had a
> barely-achievable time frame and a well defined goal for users to look
> forward to. Today, Gnome 3.0 is looking like a repeat of GNOME 2.0 and
> KDE 4.0's marketing disasters. We are dangerously close to repeating
> history, again. Specifically, we had set expectations in the outside
> word to an achievable level before and now they are
> completely in-achievable. Gnome 3.0 will disappoint because it doesn't
> have what Ars and others mistakenly took as our plan.
> 
> 
> But we can fix it.
> 
> 
> We need to put some reality check in place on what is getting out to
> the press. Everything in Seth's posts are just ideas. They aren't
> Gnome 3.0. And they aren't going to happen in time. In fact,
> production of marketing video assets for Gnome 3.0 begin in a little
> over 30 days. We knew that there would be risk starting this early but
> the simple fact of the matter is that vide

Feb. 13th Meeting MInutes

[Paul Cutler]

I apologize for the delay, but the meeting minutes from our Feb 13th
meeting have been posted and I also attached the log to the wiki page: 

http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingTeamMeetings/13FEB2010Meeting

It was a fairly short meeting, and I'll send a separate email regarding
action items as some are already completed.

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Re: Mobile Giving Foundation

[Paul Cutler]

Hi Stormy,

I think we should do this and use the $300 to try taking donations via text
message.

Combined with your message about the declining Friends of GNOME donations
(taking out the one time donation we had last month) this might help
kickstart it again.

In a perfect world, I'd like us to to wrap up the Sysadmin banner and get
that launched and do this at the same time.  I know Lucas had volunteered to
try and finish that, but with the birth of his child, I'm assuming he'll be
away for a bit.  (I'll send a separate email on this to try and get this
finished).

Paul

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Stormy Peters  wrote:

> Marketing list folks,
>
> How should I interpret the absolute silence in response to this proposal?
>
> a) We don't want $300.
> b) Let's use the $300 to try taking donations via text message for 3
> months.
> c) I'd rather we spent the $300 on __.
>
> Stormy
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Stormy Peters  wrote:
>
>> We discussed this in the GNOME board meeting.
>>
>> The board thinks it's a good idea to explore new opportunities like this
>> and there's $300 the marketing team can use for this. (Or any other
>> activities that are appropriate.)
>>
>> They did bring up the issue that we should have a plan for how we plan to
>> get out the word. I agree with that. How are we going to advertise the fact
>> that people can donate via text?
>>
>> So it's up to us, the marketing team, to decide if we want to do this and
>> if so, how.
>>
>> Stormy
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Stormy Peters  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Bharat Kapoor <3.kap...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
 Hi Stormy

 I will respond to this question in two steps.

 Part 1
 Breakeven - we need around 11 people giving 10 bucks for the 1st 3
 months to breakeven.

 Part 2
 I think we should treat this as a pilot as we dont even know how our
 members will respond there will be an acceptance period and we should take
 the 300 bucks we pay them over 3 months as Capital Expense. At the end of 3
 month we should be in a position to decide further if this works or not - 
 my
 assumption is that if we have around 20 folks giving we should be in good
 shape and since this is Tax free donation - we should send them receipts so
 technically it willo cost them between $7 and $7.50 to make a donation of
 $10 to Gnome.

>>>
>>> +1 to investing $300 to see if it works. We'll have to make sure everyone
>>> is ready to advertise it on Planet/Identica/Twitter/Facebook, etc.
>>>
>>> What do others think?
>>>
>>> Stormy
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: Reboot: Strategic goals for GNOME

[Paul Cutler]

Hi,

On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 04:35 -0600, Andrew Savory wrote:
> Hi,
> 

> 
> Focussing in on one area that I can talk about: Qt is perceived by some to be 
> stronger from a business perspective due to the 'more complete' offering: 
> extensive documentation and an SDK.

Shaun McCance and I were talking about this a couple of weeks ago. I'm
not trying to steal his thunder (and I hope he replies on list) but he
has spent a significant amount of time in the last couple of weeks and
has put together some thoughts around planning new Developer Docs on
lgo[1].

> 
> Perhaps more focus on and promotion of GNOME's developer tools/sdk offerings 
> would be a useful meta-goal for the coming year? Somehow enunciating the 
> proposition that you don't need to be an alpha-dog developer to get engaged 
> with GTK etc.
> 
> For example, I only recently found out about Anjuta: it's presumably a fairly 
> important tool for people developing using GNOME technologies, but look at 
> the results at 
> http://www.google.com/search?q=anjuta&as_sitesearch=www.gnome.org (Yes, I 
> know there's a ton of stuff at library.gnome.org, I'm being devil's advocate 
> here ...)
> 
> 
> Andrew.
> 

I agree some promotion on GNOME developer tools is a good idea.   There
is no question from a marketing / segmentation standpoint we serve
multiple groups, including users (focus this year on GNOME 3.0),
developers and others such as OEM partners, ISVs, etc.

But we have a chicken and the egg problem - we need to have the tools
and documentation ready, whether that's developer docs, code snippets,
before we do some promotion, in my opinion.

I've also been watching Jono Bacon drive a similar initiative within the
Ubuntu community around Opportunistic Development which has some
interesting parallels to this discussion.  (They're doing a whole week
of activities right now on this). [2]

[1] http://live.gnome.org/DocumentationProject/Planning/DeveloperDocs
[2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpportunisticDeveloperWeek

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Re: Campaign Proposal

[Paul Cutler]

I think Spider Monkey might be very appropriate for GNOME 3.0 considering
GNOME Shell (and the new user interface) is the highlight of the GNOME 3.0
release.

Paul

On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Tim Horton  wrote:

> On Feb 23, 2010, at 12:01, Stormy Peters wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Shaun McCance  wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm totally in favor of Gnome 3.0, the "Spider Monkey" release.
>> I have never in my life witnessed the Gnome community pass up
>> a chance to name something after a primate. ;-)
>>
>>
> The Spider Monkey is also my favorite for much the same reason. :)
>
>
> Spider Monkey strikes me as an odd release subhead... if only because the
> JS engine that powers Mozilla's products, as well as GJS (and thus, Shell),
> is called Spidermonkey.
>
> (Not sure if this was brought up, I've only skimmed the rest of this
> thread)
>
> --Tim
>
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Re: back to the survey topic

[Paul Cutler]

On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 17:52 +, Nelson Marques wrote:
> I have a machine to test LimeSurvey. During the next 48 hours I'll get
> the site running with LimeSurvey so we can test it.
> 
>  Anyone willing to test it, please report in and I'll mail a admin
> password for the backend so people can explore it etc.
> 
>  Nelson

Nelson,

Thanks for offering to do this, but we already have a Lime Survey
instance running on the GNOME.org survey in Behdad's webspace and I
opened a bug in Bugzilla for the Sysadmin team to port that over to a
more general space on a GNOME server.

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Re: Campaign Proposal

[Paul Cutler]

On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 17:49 +, Nelson Marques wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 21:27 +, Nelson Marques wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > In attachment there is a proposal for a new campaign and it's goals. To
> > unravel this a bit, it aims to position GNOME brand as an ecological
> > supporting brand alongside with some things we can do to promote this.
> > 
> > Another aspect interesting is that through this campaign we are also
> > trying to mobilize new artists to cooperate with GNOME Project.
> > 
> > There are other concerns, and this campaign was designed to be a generic
> > campaign that would allow other campaigns to brew from this one, mainly
> > to support GNOME through art.
> > 
> > I am proposing with this campaign the following:
> > 
> > 1. Give names to GNOME Releases based on endangered species which share
> > strong points with the main features of GNOME. This is appealing to
> > users and at some point allows the usage of a more catchy name for every
> > release, thus we promote a social responsible cause and broaden our
> > contributors to a new standard, including organizations which promote
> > several endangered species through the donation of art and media such as
> > high resolution pictures, movies, etc.
> > This is also a great opportunity to advocate the usage of Free
> > Standards.
> > 
> > 2. Support the existing GNOME artistic community through the
> > availability of donated media.
> > 
> > 3. Stimulate Open Desktop standard through following up campaigns and
> > "call for help" campaigns that are aimed to introducing GNOME to more
> > people and thus increase our artists.
> > 
> > 4. Provide grounds that can improve the concept people have around
> > GNOME, and earn more muscle.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I would deeply like that everyone could advance with suggestions for
> > this campaign and place in personal comments so I can work to make it an
> > attractive campaign and take it from paper into implementation.
> > 
> > Despite I don't need help to make this happen, as I am willing to offer
> > my time to gather for support between other organizations, to work in
> > the wiki campaign page, and whatever is necessary, I would like to have
> > someone that can speak in the name of GNOME Foundation to follow this so
> > that it complies with the vision behind GNOME.
> > 
> >  Please flame at will...
> > 
> >  Nelson
> 
> 
>  The SOS Lynx (http://www.soslynx.com) has confirmed support if we
> advance with this campaign through the donation of high resolution
> images and videos about the lynx.
> 
>  This is a great thing I suppose. During this thread it was mentioned
> the issue of the Lynx being a big cat and Apple using big cats (from a
> marketing point of view, I would favor the Lynx for starting up,
> specially because of Apple, but I understand the concerns, and this is
> not compared to label a distribution as Temujin (Genghis Kahn, the
> Impaler). I'm also working on Red Wolfes and Spyder Monkeys until
> someone comes up with further suggestions, this not set on stone and can
> be changed).
> 
>  I would request from the list that someone who has good communication
> channel with the developers to point me or eventually report to the list
> the strongest points of the GNOME 3.0, like security, flexibility, etc
> and the technology behind them, so we can establish a parallelism with
> the species focused for that release. 
>  We can most likely create a release video sharing this parallelism. I
> can find someone to create such video (professional, working on pro
> bono) if I get a script/guidelines of what we need to focus for the
> release.
> 
>  I'm also working on a final revision of the document supplied without
> grammar errors and more objective/insightful so we can file it for later
> consult if needed.
> 
>  And from this point on (doesn't affect final revision of the document,
> as it will keep the same issues), I'm waiting for a go.
> 
>  If this "GO" arrives, I'll need access to write a Wiki page for the
> "Save the Wildlife" Campaign. If someone can provide me a contact of
> someone who can represent the GNOME Artists community so we can start
> working on the depot for submited materials would be great.
>  
>  Anything else, feel free to share.
> 
>  Nelson.


Nelson, 

Thanks for doing this. However, my biggest concern about the SOS Lynx is
the fact that Ubuntu will has codenamed their upcoming 10.04 release
"Lucid Lynx".  I'm happy to support the idea of codenaming releases with
the release team, but I think the Lynx is too confusing in the
marketplace between the GNOME and Ubuntu brands.

Are there are any other potential choices we could use?

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Re: GNOME Installation Howtos

[Paul Cutler]

On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 11:42 -0500, Darton Williams wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> In reference to http://website-editors.gnome.org/download/installation:
> 
> The only existing links to Howtos were for *BSD. Since these guides
> were on the official distribution websites, it made sense to try and
> find guides on the official site for each of the other listed distros.
> However, many are nonexistent and others such as PCLinuxOS recommend a
> fork built with GNOME.
> 
> So the question is, should we find reliable unofficial guides (e.g.
> howtoforge) to fill in the blanks, or simply remove the distros
> without official guides and try to focus on the distros with? I've
> started this with the 2.28 list, taking the distros listed on older
> versions which do have official guides.
> 
> Also, I think the distinction between the versions and the presence of
> different distros in each version list may confuse people.
> 
> Best,
> 
> dartonw

Hi Darton,

First, thank you so much for helping review and edit the content.

For both the Distributions and the Installation page, I agree that the
presence of multiple versions is confusing.  I believe we should only
link to the latest release, in this case 2.28.  (I also think we should
list the distros alphabetically to avoid the perception of playing
favorites).

For installation, I think the original intent of that page was to give
an overview for building from source or using jhbuild, not for
upgrading / installing GNOME on distros.  I think the distro support and
unofficial guides should be out of scope for our website. (Copying the
marketing list for feedback on this).

Paul



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