Re: Revamped Gnome.org

2005-09-20 Thread Dave Neary

Richard Hoelscher a écrit :
Long story short, for the purpose of front-page use, I'm all in favor of 
GNOME being described as open source software, not Open Source, 
Free Software or Open-Source Free Software. Use it as an adjective 
to get the point across that this is a community of good people 
that develop software together, without the emotional baggage. If they 
really want to learn more, they can, but there's no reason to shovel it 
onto the front page.


Personally, I prefer the emotional baggage of free software than the 
misunderstood open source. Usually, we compromise and use the (long 
form) Free and Open Source Software. Which suits me fine.


Cheers,
Dave.

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Re: Revamped Gnome.org

2005-09-18 Thread Andreas Nilsson

rajiv vyas wrote:


Instead of emails and abiword files going back and forth, should we move
text editing to www.writely.com? I can invite the group or individual
members? Of course, if it does not work or people find it inconvenient,
we can move back to the old email/abiword way.


Thanks,

Rajiv
 


How about the gnome wiki at live.gnome.org?
- Andreas
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Re: Revamped Gnome.org

2005-09-18 Thread J.B. Nicholson-Owens

Andreas Nilsson wrote:

GNOME is an Open-Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source Operating
System http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_System built to be stable...
 I think some people would not agree that GNOME is an Operating System. 
GNU/Linux, FreeBSD and Solaris are operating systems, GNOME is a Desktop 
Enviorment (or Desktop Suite as said in the What is GNOME-box sounds nicer).


I thought that GNOME was the official desktop of the GNU Project, and thus had
to do with the free software movement, not the open source movement.  Looking at
the Wikipedia reference you included, I see that GNOME actually predates the
coining of the term open source and the Open Source Initiative (GNOME started
in August 1997, the OSI and open source in February 1998).

The GNU Project seems interested in getting credit for their work and the
community they started; from
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html:


We are not against the Open Source movement, but we don't want to be lumped
in with them. We acknowledge that they have contributed to our community, but
we created this community, and we want people to know this. We want people to
associate our achievements with our values and our philosophy, not with
theirs. We want to be heard, not obscured behind a group with different
views. To prevent people from thinking we are part of them, we take pains to
avoid using the word ``open'' to describe free software, or its contrary,
``closed'', in talking about non-free software.

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Re: Revamped Gnome.org

2005-09-17 Thread Luis Villa
On 9/13/05, Andreas Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hugh Buzacott wrote:
 
  I am still pushing for a new GNOME.org so I created a mock-up.
 
  The mock-up is at http://www.geocities.com/bzctt/ and is only a front
  page but has links to the rest of normal GNOME.org through the header.
 
  It is just a suggestion so if you have any ideas and so forth just
  send them.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Hugh Buzacott.
 
  Oh. To view it correctly you have to minimize the 'Sponsored Links'
  bar at the side.
 
 Looks nice. Nice to see it implented.
 As Jeff mentioned when I spoke to him on IRC, any kind of reorganisation
 and restyling of content need to aim towards what people want to do.
 People going to gnome.org probably wants to:
 * to find out how to make their gnome better
 * to find developer information
 * to find out what it is
 
 However, a whole reorganisation is a very brave task and fixing the
 frontpage would atleast be a step in the right direction.

Yeah. It is true that we badly need a complete head-to-toe redesign
(and I'm very excited to see some of that being thought about on this
list and in the wiki) but don't let that need stop someone from
redesigning the front page and making it more attractive while we're
waiting for redesigns to be done. If someone can make the front page
suck less today, it should be done, whether or not the rest of the
redesign is done yet...

Luis

 I would also like to cut down the amount of text in Simple Yet Powerful
 to atleast half in this proposed design. People loose interest very fast
 when reading text online.
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Re: Revamped Gnome.org

2005-09-13 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
Hugh Buzacott wrote:
 I am still pushing for a new GNOME.org so I created a mock-up.

Oh Goody...

 The mock-up is at http://www.geocities.com/bzctt/ and is only a front
 page but has links to the rest of normal GNOME.org through the header.

 It is just a suggestion so if you have any ideas and so forth just send
 them.

Looks nice, smooth, bright and so very GNOME-y. However,

[1] Would it help having smarter, richer, tighter, smoother in one line ?

[2] Anti-aliasing and hardware integration are not really very
touchy-feely tangible thing for the GNOME using grandma - can we ensure
that we have something a bit more apt ?

Good work and I love that *love* message.

Regards
Sankarshan



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