Re: Revamped Gnome.org
Richard Hoelscher a écrit : Long story short, for the purpose of front-page use, I'm all in favor of GNOME being described as open source software, not Open Source, Free Software or Open-Source Free Software. Use it as an adjective to get the point across that this is a community of good people that develop software together, without the emotional baggage. If they really want to learn more, they can, but there's no reason to shovel it onto the front page. Personally, I prefer the emotional baggage of free software than the misunderstood open source. Usually, we compromise and use the (long form) Free and Open Source Software. Which suits me fine. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Revamped Gnome.org
rajiv vyas wrote: Instead of emails and abiword files going back and forth, should we move text editing to www.writely.com? I can invite the group or individual members? Of course, if it does not work or people find it inconvenient, we can move back to the old email/abiword way. Thanks, Rajiv How about the gnome wiki at live.gnome.org? - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Revamped Gnome.org
Andreas Nilsson wrote: GNOME is an Open-Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source Operating System http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_System built to be stable... I think some people would not agree that GNOME is an Operating System. GNU/Linux, FreeBSD and Solaris are operating systems, GNOME is a Desktop Enviorment (or Desktop Suite as said in the What is GNOME-box sounds nicer). I thought that GNOME was the official desktop of the GNU Project, and thus had to do with the free software movement, not the open source movement. Looking at the Wikipedia reference you included, I see that GNOME actually predates the coining of the term open source and the Open Source Initiative (GNOME started in August 1997, the OSI and open source in February 1998). The GNU Project seems interested in getting credit for their work and the community they started; from http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html: We are not against the Open Source movement, but we don't want to be lumped in with them. We acknowledge that they have contributed to our community, but we created this community, and we want people to know this. We want people to associate our achievements with our values and our philosophy, not with theirs. We want to be heard, not obscured behind a group with different views. To prevent people from thinking we are part of them, we take pains to avoid using the word ``open'' to describe free software, or its contrary, ``closed'', in talking about non-free software. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Revamped Gnome.org
On 9/13/05, Andreas Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hugh Buzacott wrote: I am still pushing for a new GNOME.org so I created a mock-up. The mock-up is at http://www.geocities.com/bzctt/ and is only a front page but has links to the rest of normal GNOME.org through the header. It is just a suggestion so if you have any ideas and so forth just send them. Thanks, Hugh Buzacott. Oh. To view it correctly you have to minimize the 'Sponsored Links' bar at the side. Looks nice. Nice to see it implented. As Jeff mentioned when I spoke to him on IRC, any kind of reorganisation and restyling of content need to aim towards what people want to do. People going to gnome.org probably wants to: * to find out how to make their gnome better * to find developer information * to find out what it is However, a whole reorganisation is a very brave task and fixing the frontpage would atleast be a step in the right direction. Yeah. It is true that we badly need a complete head-to-toe redesign (and I'm very excited to see some of that being thought about on this list and in the wiki) but don't let that need stop someone from redesigning the front page and making it more attractive while we're waiting for redesigns to be done. If someone can make the front page suck less today, it should be done, whether or not the rest of the redesign is done yet... Luis I would also like to cut down the amount of text in Simple Yet Powerful to atleast half in this proposed design. People loose interest very fast when reading text online. - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Revamped Gnome.org
Hugh Buzacott wrote: I am still pushing for a new GNOME.org so I created a mock-up. Oh Goody... The mock-up is at http://www.geocities.com/bzctt/ and is only a front page but has links to the rest of normal GNOME.org through the header. It is just a suggestion so if you have any ideas and so forth just send them. Looks nice, smooth, bright and so very GNOME-y. However, [1] Would it help having smarter, richer, tighter, smoother in one line ? [2] Anti-aliasing and hardware integration are not really very touchy-feely tangible thing for the GNOME using grandma - can we ensure that we have something a bit more apt ? Good work and I love that *love* message. Regards Sankarshan -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list