Re: Video #2 RFC
Hey Jason, Awesome work! I love the format and the music! Just one suggestion, I have the feeling that transitions between the desktop and you standing are a bit too slow. For example, the second time you show up, there's more time of transitioning than you explaining to the camera, which isn't very nice. Other than that, I love it! Good work! :-) 2011/3/21 Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com: On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 22:53, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 19:05, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote: A first production attempt of launch video #2 is available here. Comments, please. The sooner, the better because two more will be produced tomorrow. http://people.gnome.org/~jclinton/gnome3_launch_videos/gnome3_launch_video2_beta.webm I just uploaded an updated version with the same file name as above that incorporates some feedback: A release candidate is now in the same spot in 4Mbit/s rendering. Unless someone finds some problem with it, I say we try uploading this one to our YouTube account tomorrow, try embedding it on the gnome3.org site with UT, and see how it goes. All source files for this one are now posted, too. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Un saludo, Alberto Ruiz -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video #2 RFC
Jason D. Clinton wrote: On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 22:53, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 19:05, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote: A first production attempt of launch video #2 is available here. Comments, please. The sooner, the better because two more will be produced tomorrow. http://people.gnome.org/~jclinton/gnome3_launch_videos/gnome3_launch_video2_beta.webm I just uploaded an updated version with the same file name as above that incorporates some feedback: A release candidate is now in the same spot in 4Mbit/s rendering. Unless someone finds some problem with it, I say we try uploading this one to our YouTube account tomorrow, try embedding it on the gnome3.org site with UT, and see how it goes. All source files for this one are now posted, too. It's excellent. Allan -- Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video #2 RFC
Nice work! I think these will really make a difference to folks new to GNOME or wondering about GNOME 3. Stormy On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.comwrote: A first production attempt of launch video #2 is available here. Comments, please. The sooner, the better because two more will be produced tomorrow. http://people.gnome.org/~jclinton/gnome3_launch_videos/gnome3_launch_video2_beta.webm -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video #2 RFC
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote: A release candidate is now in the same spot in 4Mbit/s rendering. Unless someone finds some problem with it, I say we try uploading this one to our YouTube account tomorrow, try embedding it on the gnome3.org site with UT, and see how it goes. Let's go for it. I'll guess you have access to the youtube account? -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video #2 RFC
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 03:58, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: Just one suggestion, I have the feeling that transitions between the desktop and you standing are a bit too slow. For example, the second time you show up, there's more time of transitioning than you explaining to the camera, which isn't very nice. Other than that, I love it! Good work! :-) I tried moving the transition time from 1s to 0.5s and it completely fell apart at low bit rates. However, I did address some of the problem by increasing the camera time slightly. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video #2 RFC
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:02, Diego Escalante Urrelo die...@gnome.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote: A release candidate is now in the same spot in 4Mbit/s rendering. Unless someone finds some problem with it, I say we try uploading this one to our YouTube account tomorrow, try embedding it on the gnome3.org site with UT, and see how it goes. Let's go for it. I'll guess you have access to the youtube account? No, I don't. Whoever does, please upload this 4Mbit/s final version to the YouTube account and coordinate the implementation on gnome3.org with Universal Subtitles: http://people.gnome.org/~jclinton/gnome3_launch_videos/gnome3_launch_video2_final.webm -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video #2 RFC
On Mar 19, 2011 11:37 PM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: == 1.4 GB in 31 days max Hi Olav, I am guessing you provided these numbers to help guide our bandwidth consumption? It is my intention to only use people.g.o for collaboration on this mailing list; I don't intend to post it to my blog or to use this server for gnome3.org. Our plan is to use the GNOME YouTube account for that. Do you have a recommendation for another place to collaborate? -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video #2 RFC
On Mar 20, 2011 5:05 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: * Lorem ipsum: realistic content would be better. I'll be online in a couple of hours - ping me and I can work something up for you if you'd like. I did that intentionally for two reasons: more people who speak other languages will see the videos than English speakers once the translations are done and Lorem ipsum is as close to internationally recognized giberish that I could think of, and I don't want people's eyes to be drawn to content on the screen instead of the interface. * 'it's as easy as that': unnecessary, I think. It could be pulled. I will edit this out. Very easy to do. * Hearing the script out loud, I realise that the script I wrote could be better. There are some repetitions of 'screen', for instance. Here are some alternatives: 'With GNOME 3, you can easily make a window fill half the screen. To do this, drag the window as before, but push it to one side. This is really useful, because you can use it to easily view two windows at once.' 'Again, each window can be returned to normal by dragging it away from the screen edge.' Too late to refilm the speaking but I will try to cut to avoid that ackwardness you mentioned. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video #2 RFC
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 01:46:50PM -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote: On Mar 19, 2011 11:37 PM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: == 1.4 GB in 31 days max I am guessing you provided these numbers to help guide our bandwidth consumption? It is my intention to only use people.g.o for collaboration on Yes, but only marginally interested in that. I was just wondering how popular these .webm files are and if we should set something up. Thought you'd be interested in the amount of hits we've got for something which wasn't even announced. Webalizer is broken unfortunately and you cannot determine it from that jaavscript webstat thing. All bandwidth is free for GNOME btw (sponsored). Just that it seems we have a limited bandwidth from Red Hat (seemed slow to download the file from .nl). this mailing list; I don't intend to post it to my blog or to use this server for gnome3.org. Our plan is to use the GNOME YouTube account for that. No worries. I don't think we could host it ourselves. But if there is a need, the infrastructure should follow / be fixed to handle it. Do you have a recommendation for another place to collaborate? Recommendation: Just keep using it. In future I think we should have multiple mirrors and perhaps make it more easy to share .webm files. But not sure if we're setup for that (hard drive space, backup space, webserver which doesn't bog down when we get a few hits, etc). Tar files are no problem, but keeping .webm files for 10+ years is not something that was considered. Anyway, just wondering how to prioritise infrastructure stuff. -- Regards, Olav -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video #2 RFC
In future I think we should have multiple mirrors and perhaps make it more easy to share .webm files. But not sure if we're setup for that (hard drive space, backup space, webserver which doesn't bog down when we get a few hits, etc). Tar files are no problem, but keeping .webm files for 10+ years is not something that was considered. Anyway, just wondering how to prioritise infrastructure stuff. We could setup a torrent and have some of us seed the videos? sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video #2 RFC
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:09:29PM -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: In future I think we should have multiple mirrors and perhaps make it more easy to share .webm files. But not sure if we're setup for that (hard drive space, backup space, webserver which doesn't bog down when we get a few hits, etc). Tar files are no problem, but keeping .webm files for 10+ years is not something that was considered. Anyway, just wondering how to prioritise infrastructure stuff. We could setup a torrent and have some of us seed the videos? For gnome3.org or designing the videos? For gnome3.org: I think that wouldn't work, you want to see them asap. For designing: easier to share using people.gnome.org. Think it'll allow more people to participate in the design of the videos (people might be behind firewalls and so on) MAybe setup an area on 'ftp.gnome.org' where you can share stuff for max 30 days. If all the mirrors agree on this (atm only one, ftp.gnome.org), we'd easily: a) share stuff b) be able to exclude it from the backups But of course: Do whatever you think is best :) -- Regards, Olav -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video #2 RFC
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:09:29PM -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: In future I think we should have multiple mirrors and perhaps make it more easy to share .webm files. But not sure if we're setup for that (hard drive space, backup space, webserver which doesn't bog down when we get a few hits, etc). Tar files are no problem, but keeping .webm files for 10+ years is not something that was considered. Anyway, just wondering how to prioritise infrastructure stuff. We could setup a torrent and have some of us seed the videos? For gnome3.org or designing the videos? Either one, but I see your point. It's just a way to save bandwidth if we need to. But really that's what youtube is for anyways. For gnome3.org: I think that wouldn't work, you want to see them asap. For designing: easier to share using people.gnome.org. Think it'll allow more people to participate in the design of the videos (people might be behind firewalls and so on) I need to switch to F15 in order to get videos going.. my ubuntu box is too patched up to give the default gnome 3 experience at the moment. Jason ha been going at it alone unfortunately. I suppose I can try harder.. MAybe setup an area on 'ftp.gnome.org' where you can share stuff for max 30 days. If all the mirrors agree on this (atm only one, ftp.gnome.org), we'd easily: a) share stuff b) be able to exclude it from the backups Sure, that's fine with me.. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video #2 RFC
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 22:53, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 19:05, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote: A first production attempt of launch video #2 is available here. Comments, please. The sooner, the better because two more will be produced tomorrow. http://people.gnome.org/~jclinton/gnome3_launch_videos/gnome3_launch_video2_beta.webm I just uploaded an updated version with the same file name as above that incorporates some feedback: A release candidate is now in the same spot in 4Mbit/s rendering. Unless someone finds some problem with it, I say we try uploading this one to our YouTube account tomorrow, try embedding it on the gnome3.org site with UT, and see how it goes. All source files for this one are now posted, too. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video #2 RFC
On Dom, 20 de Marzo de 2011, 1:05 am, Jason D. Clinton dijo: A first production attempt of launch video #2 is available here. Comments, please. The sooner, the better because two more will be produced tomorrow. http://people.gnome.org/~jclinton/gnome3_launch_videos/gnome3_launch_video2_beta.webm -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list Excellent !!! I only want to say that I like more :) Cheers, -- Juanjo Marin -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video #2 RFC
You have a tiny bit too much space above your head, I think. Did you review the script for #4? Should I try with that one :)? On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote: A first production attempt of launch video #2 is available here. Comments, please. The sooner, the better because two more will be produced tomorrow. http://people.gnome.org/~jclinton/gnome3_launch_videos/gnome3_launch_video2_beta.webm -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video #2 RFC
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 21:53, Diego Escalante Urrelo die...@gnome.org wrote: You have a tiny bit too much space above your head, I think. Mmm... too late to change that but I will definitely reconsider the crop frame for videos 5-8 when I film them. Did you review the script for #4? Should I try with that one :)? Yea, already go to. Let me know if you have any questions! -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video #2 RFC
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 19:05, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote: A first production attempt of launch video #2 is available here. Comments, please. The sooner, the better because two more will be produced tomorrow. http://people.gnome.org/~jclinton/gnome3_launch_videos/gnome3_launch_video2_beta.webm I just uploaded an updated version with the same file name as above that incorporates some feedback: * fade in and out at beginning and end * Gaussian blur of Blue Strips when it's behind me while I'm talking to compensate for lack of foreground sharpness * CC license data for theme song at end By the way, the format is WebM + Ogg Vorbis @ 2Mbit/s. Might need to render a little higher to make YouTube's trans-coding process happy. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video #2 RFC
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 07:05:49PM -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
A first production attempt of launch video #2 is available here.
Comments, please. The sooner, the better because two more will be
produced tomorrow.
http://people.gnome.org/~jclinton/gnome3_launch_videos/gnome3_launch_video2_beta.webm
# zgrep '\.webm' access_log.*.gz | gawk '{TOTAL=TOTAL + $10 } END { print TOTAL
}'
5.1922e+10
# zgrep '\.webm' access_log.*.gz | wc -l
13532
== 48GB in 31 days max
# zgrep '\.webm' access_log.*.gz | grep 'GET /~jclinton/' | gawk '{TOTAL=TOTAL
+ $10 } END { print TOTAL }'
1493219905
# zgrep '\.webm' access_log.*.gz | grep 'GET /~jclinton/' -c
143
== 1.4 GB in 31 days max
# zgrep '\.webm' access_log.*.gz | grep 'GET /~alexl/' | gawk '{TOTAL=TOTAL +
$10 } END { print TOTAL }'
4.9664e+10
# zgrep '\.webm' access_log.*.gz | grep 'GET /~alexl/' -c
12803
== 46GB in 31 days max
Note: we have 31 days of logfiles.
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