Re: extensions.gnome.org release
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:01:34PM -0500, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > My current plan of attack is to launch quietly and see how many people > notice it. I'm expecting that the release will still be a bit buggy > and broken, so I don't want to launch too triumphantly and then fail > completely. Can't we call it a beta release? -- Regards, Olav -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: extensions.gnome.org release
I think launching quietly and assuming that it won't be picked up by Phoronix/LWN/Slashdot could leave us scrambling if (when!) that happens. It might be better to try and set expectations up front: when we are ready to launch, send a mail to gnome-shell-list, setting expectations for what works, and what is still being worked on, link to that mail from extensions.gnome.org (Like have a "learn more" link next to the Alpha/Beta banner on the web site), fix the problems that come up. I'm *sure* we don't want to send out a press release for a site that has been tested by about 5 people so far, however. - Owen - Original Message - > From: "Jasper St. Pierre" > To: marketing-list@gnome.org, "Owen Taylor" , "Olav > Vitters" > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 1:05:37 PM > Subject: Re: extensions.gnome.org release > > Sure. Just know that from checking the website's error log, there's > 15-20 people trying to guess random passwords each day, so I doubt > there would be a shortage of people noticing. Launching quietly also > gives us enough freedom in case we want to take it down for > maintenance or wipe all the data, which isn't excluded as a > possibility at this point. > > When the website becomes more mature, we can announce it then. > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Olav Vitters > wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:01:34PM -0500, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > >> My current plan of attack is to launch quietly and see how many > >> people > >> notice it. I'm expecting that the release will still be a bit > >> buggy > >> and broken, so I don't want to launch too triumphantly and then > >> fail > >> completely. > > > Can't we call it a beta release? > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Olav > > > > > > -- > Jasper > -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: extensions.gnome.org release
Sure. Just know that from checking the website's error log, there's 15-20 people trying to guess random passwords each day, so I doubt there would be a shortage of people noticing. Launching quietly also gives us enough freedom in case we want to take it down for maintenance or wipe all the data, which isn't excluded as a possibility at this point. When the website becomes more mature, we can announce it then. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:01:34PM -0500, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: >> My current plan of attack is to launch quietly and see how many people >> notice it. I'm expecting that the release will still be a bit buggy >> and broken, so I don't want to launch too triumphantly and then fail >> completely. > > Can't we call it a beta release? > > -- > Regards, > Olav > -- Jasper -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: extensions.gnome.org release
- Mensaje original - > De: Jasper St. Pierre > Para: marketing-list@gnome.org; Owen Taylor ; Olav > Vitters > CC: > Enviado: lunes 21 de noviembre de 2011 19:05 > Asunto: Re: extensions.gnome.org release > > Sure. Just know that from checking the website's error log, there's > 15-20 people trying to guess random passwords each day, so I doubt > there would be a shortage of people noticing. Launching quietly also > gives us enough freedom in case we want to take it down for > maintenance or wipe all the data, which isn't excluded as a > possibility at this point. Hi ! I think that is very important to have a clear policy about requirements and the process of inclusion of extensions in the website/service. Just to mention, but I guess this has been done :-) Also think that it needs to be clear how to get support for 3rd party extensions. And finally, apart the general information about the exntension, I think the info about the author (person/company) of the extensions should offered in a way that makes appealing to the authors to get their extension published there. Cheers, -- Juanjo Marin -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: extensions.gnome.org release
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Owen Taylor wrote: > I think launching quietly and assuming that it won't be picked up by > Phoronix/LWN/Slashdot could leave us scrambling if (when!) that happens. > > It might be better to try and set expectations up front: when we are ready > to launch, send a mail to gnome-shell-list, setting expectations for what > works, and what is still being worked on, link to that mail from > extensions.gnome.org (Like have a "learn more" link next to the > Alpha/Beta banner on the web site), fix the problems that come up. > > I'm *sure* we don't want to send out a press release for a site that has > been tested by about 5 people so far, however. > > I think Owen is right. I think people are going to know very quickly. We should set everything up and set all the expectations especially in regards to stability. I can't help but think some kind of message that "GNOME supports the 1%" would be humorous. (if you don't get the reference, it was something Greg K-H coined in a G+ thread regarding GNOME 3. eg the 1% that supports GNOME with bug reports, feedback and what not. Anyways, I"m eager to see this get into operation. sri > - Owen > > - Original Message - > > From: "Jasper St. Pierre" > > To: marketing-list@gnome.org, "Owen Taylor" , "Olav > Vitters" > > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 1:05:37 PM > > Subject: Re: extensions.gnome.org release > > > > Sure. Just know that from checking the website's error log, there's > > 15-20 people trying to guess random passwords each day, so I doubt > > there would be a shortage of people noticing. Launching quietly also > > gives us enough freedom in case we want to take it down for > > maintenance or wipe all the data, which isn't excluded as a > > possibility at this point. > > > > When the website becomes more mature, we can announce it then. > > > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Olav Vitters > > wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:01:34PM -0500, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > > >> My current plan of attack is to launch quietly and see how many > > >> people > > >> notice it. I'm expecting that the release will still be a bit > > >> buggy > > >> and broken, so I don't want to launch too triumphantly and then > > >> fail > > >> completely. > > > > > Can't we call it a beta release? > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > Olav > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jasper > > > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: extensions.gnome.org release
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Owen Taylor wrote: > I think launching quietly and assuming that it won't be picked up by > Phoronix/LWN/Slashdot could leave us scrambling if (when!) that happens. > > It might be better to try and set expectations up front: when we are ready to > launch, send a mail to gnome-shell-list, setting expectations for what works, > and what is still being worked on, link to that mail from > extensions.gnome.org (Like have a "learn more" link next to the Alpha/Beta > banner on the web site), fix the problems that come up. > > I'm *sure* we don't want to send out a press release for a site that has been > tested by about 5 people so far, however. Making this an alpha release (with an 'Alpha' sticker on the website) seems prudent. Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: extensions.gnome.org release date?
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 02:58:44PM +0200, alex diavatis wrote: > Do we know when the extensions.gnome.org is opening? Under active development @ gnome-shell-list (cc'ed). -- Regards, Olav -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: extensions.gnome.org release date?
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 01:58:55PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 02:58:44PM +0200, alex diavatis wrote: > > Do we know when the extensions.gnome.org is opening? > > Under active development @ gnome-shell-list (cc'ed). Heard there will be a public beta on Dec 1st. No guarantees the date will be met. -- Regards, Olav -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: extensions.gnome.org release date?
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 01:58:55PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 02:58:44PM +0200, alex diavatis wrote: > > > Do we know when the extensions.gnome.org is opening? > > > > Under active development @ gnome-shell-list (cc'ed). > > Heard there will be a public beta on Dec 1st. No guarantees the date > will be met. > -- > Regards, > Olav > Is the most awaiting thing after 3.0 release.. Is too bad to be so much delayed :( Well, 20 more days.. Can we see some draft of it ? - alex > ___ > gnome-shell-list mailing list > gnome-shell-l...@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list > -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list