[Marxism] Polish women strike against abortion ban

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Wearing black as a symbol of mourning for lost reproductive rights, tens of
thousands of women in Poland and beyond took to the streets on October 3 to
protest a draconian ban on abortion

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As part of "Black Monday
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more than 100,000 protesters vowed to boycott work or school, and "in an
act of solidarity, a number of businesses and corporations have reportedly
pledged to shut their doors as part of the strike," *The Independent *
reported

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Re: [Marxism] Riad Alarian responds to Max Blumenthal on FB

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On 10/3/16 9:21 PM, A.R. G wrote:

Which Syrians? Do people in Syria read Alternet? Do people in America
read it for that matter?


I am talking about the Syrian left, or actually the Arab left that is 
living in the USA and Great Britain mostly. The kind of people who put 
out Muftah, for example. Riad Alarian was a co-founder. Blumenthal 
doesn't give a crap about them. Writing articles taking up their cause 
is not going to get the attention of the people who put out Salon, 
Alternet, Commondreams, or Counterpunch. You have to make a choice if 
you are going to make a career out of leftist journalism. I should know. 
I was more or less forced to resign from Counterpunch after Jeff St. 
Clair refused to publish an article that went against the current.




Yes, you should call them out, but this sounds like saying we should
never read anything he writes again on any subject. I think that goes
too far.



I haven't seen much output from Blumenthal lately. Maybe he got on board 
the Assadist train to help his career. He had the gall to Tweet that 
being pro-Assad condemned you to being in a beleaguered minority. What 
planet is he living on?

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Re: [Marxism] Riad Alarian responds to Max Blumenthal on FB

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Which Syrians? Do people in Syria read Alternet? Do people in America read
it for that matter?

Yes, you should call them out, but this sounds like saying we should never
read anything he writes again on any subject. I think that goes too far.

- Amith

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>> But I do not expect that much of him or other Western journalists in the
>> first place. Is it really fair to say his journalist contributions on
>> other
>> issues should be thrown to the wind over his statements about the White
>> Helmets?
>>
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>
> Oh, please, Amith. Blumenthal and Ben Norton for that matter will go
> unscathed because they get called out for writing lies. The only people
> pissed at him are Syrians and who cares about them?
>
> Here's the deal. Any journalist who writes lies should get called out
> whether it is Judith Miller or Max Blumenthal. In fact, up until now there
> has only been minor carping about Blumenthal who mainly wrote obnoxious
> Tweets about Syria. But this article is truly toxic stuff, filled with
> half-truths and outright lies. When you write shit that justifies Assad's
> genocidal attack on Aleppo, that is no different than Tablet or Hillel
> defending the IDF bombing in Gaza. I reserve the right to blast the Israel
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[Marxism] Fwd: H-Net Review [H-SC]: Johnson on Kelley, 'The Voyage of the Slave Ship Hare: A Journey into Captivity from Sierra Leone to South Carolina'

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From: H-Net Staff 
Date: Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 11:22 AM
Subject: H-Net Review [H-SC]: Johnson on Kelley, 'The Voyage of the Slave
Ship Hare: A Journey into Captivity from Sierra Leone to South Carolina'
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Sean M. Kelley.  The Voyage of the Slave Ship Hare: A Journey into
Captivity from Sierra Leone to South Carolina.  Chapel Hill
University of North Carolina Press, 2016.  304 pp.  $30.00 (cloth),
ISBN 978-1-4696-2768-7.

Reviewed by D. Andrew Johnson
Published on H-SC (October, 2016)
Commissioned by David W. Dangerfield

Sean M. Kelley's new monograph, _The Voyage of the Slave Ship__
_Hare_: A Journey into Captivity from Sierra Leone to South
Carolina_, is an impressive microhistory of a single transatlantic
slaving voyage from 1754 to 1755. In framing his narrative around a
single journey, Kelley ties together the vast array of forces and
peoples who worked in conjunction to produce the transatlantic slave
trade between Africa and the Americas from the sixteenth to the
nineteenth century. Scholars often describe the slave trade as a
monolithic entity, a barrage of asymmetries in transcontinental
economies, and/or the insidious exploitation of African societies for
the benefit of a Euro-American colonial system. For Kelley, though,
the slave trade, in toto, was the accumulated result of innumerable
series of individual historical actors making decisions in their
particular socioeconomic contexts. In short, _The Voyage of the Slave
Ship__ _Hare uses a microhistorical lens to explore the connections
between Rhode Island, Sierra Leone, Barbados, and South Carolina in
the mid-eighteenth century. Kelley simultaneously narrates the
transatlantic slave trade on the human level, while admitting in the
first sentence of the book that we do not know the names of the
seventy-two people captured and commodified in West Africa and
eventually sold in Charles Town.

One major reason there are not more studies like _The Voyage of the
Slave Ship__ _Hare is the lack of sources. Ironically, the major
extant sources for many slaving voyages, ship's journals and logs,
are not available for the _Hare_. But for this particular voyage
there is a wealth of other materials for Kelley to use for
reconstructing the worlds of the participants, including the
seventy-two captives. As Kelley observes, the _Hare_'s 1754-55 voyage
"is the most thoroughly documented slaving voyage to
eighteenth-century North America and is among the best documented for
any time or place" (p. 5). There are ship accounts, payment records
for the crew, a collection of letters written by Captain Caleb
Godfrey from Sierra Leone, and a list of sellers along the Upper
Guinea coast who sold captive peoples to the ship, in addition to an
extremely rare sales record listing the names of purchasers from
Charles Town merchant Gabriel Manigault. By using these sources and
placing them in the context of each site of the voyage, Kelley
meticulously reconstructs the circumstances within which his
historical actors found themselves maneuvering.

Kelley's chronological structure works well for tracing the slaving
voyage. Beginning his study in Newport, Rhode Island, Kelley unpacks
the investors' motives for planning the journey, the role of the man
who decided to captain the ship, and the methods for obtaining a
crew. Newport's economy (and more broadly, New England) was ripe for
ships to undertake such journeys to the coast of West Africa. The
Vernon family of Newport decided slaving was worth the obvious risks
of staging a transatlantic voyage. The _Hare_ carried rum distilled
locally in Rhode Island as a means for purchasing captive African
peoples in Sierra Leone. In this way, New England served as a conduit
between slave-made commodities in the Caribbean and the continued
transatlantic shipment of captives bound for the Americas. These
conclusions place this work alongside a growing literature on the
connections between slavery and the colonial New England society and
economy.

The second part of the book concentrates on attempts by Godfrey and
his crew to obtain enough captives at different trading locales among
the islands and waterways within twenty miles to the east of the
Sierra Leone Peninsula, from both British slave merchants at Bance
Island and indigenous traders in the vicinity. European slavers had
to accommodate local trading cultures. New Englanders were often at a
disadvantage compared to British traders because they had less to
offer than the vast array of manufactured goods from the imperial
metropole. Sierra Leone's economic organization meant 

[Marxism] Fukushima

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Given the excitement on the list, here's a photo taken in 2012 by the
Department of State. There are plenty of reliable links in the original
story that started this discussion.

http://www.neonnettle.com/features/images/spammain111.jpg

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Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 23:55:51 +0200
From: Einde OCallaghan 
To: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition

Subject: Re: [Marxism] Fukushima radiation has contaminated the entire
Pacific Ocean
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Am 03.10.2016 um 06:37 schrieb Dennis Brasky via Marxism:
> http://www.trueactivist.com/fukushima-radiation-has-
contaminated-the-entire-pacific-ocean-and-its-going-to-get-worse/
> _
>
This story has been run by various dubious websites for years. Already
in 2013 Snopes de3molished a similar story:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/technology/fukushima.asp

and it has done so with several other Fukushima stories. This is in
addition to the other links that Les posted.

While not wishing to downplay the dangers of radiation and radioactive
pollution, which are serious problems for people who live near Fukushima
or eat fish that has spent time near the leakage, it does us no good to
spread dubious stories from dubious sites.

If a science story is serious, then it should be possible to find it in
serious sources - the last place I'd expect to find serious news about
science or technology is a website that offers Truther stories like
"It?s Official: European Scientific Journal Concludes 9/11 Was A
Controlled Demolition"!

Einde O'Callaghan
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Re: [Marxism] Riad Alarian responds to Max Blumenthal on FB

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On 10/3/16 8:26 PM, A.R. G via Marxism wrote:

But I do not expect that much of him or other Western journalists in the
first place. Is it really fair to say his journalist contributions on other
issues should be thrown to the wind over his statements about the White
Helmets?



Oh, please, Amith. Blumenthal and Ben Norton for that matter will go 
unscathed because they get called out for writing lies. The only people 
pissed at him are Syrians and who cares about them?


Here's the deal. Any journalist who writes lies should get called out 
whether it is Judith Miller or Max Blumenthal. In fact, up until now 
there has only been minor carping about Blumenthal who mainly wrote 
obnoxious Tweets about Syria. But this article is truly toxic stuff, 
filled with half-truths and outright lies. When you write shit that 
justifies Assad's genocidal attack on Aleppo, that is no different than 
Tablet or Hillel defending the IDF bombing in Gaza. I reserve the right 
to blast the Israel lobby and the Baathist amen corner.

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Re: [Marxism] Riad Alarian responds to Max Blumenthal on FB

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I have to say, as much as I agree with the merits of the criticism of MB,
RK, and BN on this, I can't agree with the vilification of these people.

What do others expect from them? They are Western journalists, all of whom
started as bloggers. They are producing materials for what is a dying
field. I can't help but think that the obsession with what Max Blumenthal
has to say about Syria in the first place is a sign of being tremendously
out of touch with what people in Syria have to say. You guys are speaking
about him as though he is some sort of political leader. He is a guy who
writes blog articles for liberals in the West.

I have always had great respect for him given his principles, particularly
the fact that he left Al-Akhbar over its Assad apologetics. I think that
took guts. I am disappointed that he appears to have reversed some of that.
I also disagreed with his take on Alison Weir; I thought his statements
were unfair.

But I do not expect that much of him or other Western journalists in the
first place. Is it really fair to say his journalist contributions on other
issues should be thrown to the wind over his statements about the White
Helmets? Exactly what is the expectation of these people that they are
supposed to be morally pure? I assume the value of Alternet and other
similar publications is to provide Westerners with an alternative view. 95%
of Max's writings have done exactly that. Why throw all of that out due to
his failure to take a more principled position on Syria? Is he some sort of
political decision-maker? Last I checked he is simply a blogger. In fact he
is rehashing the talking points that have become depressingly common on the
left. I don't know why anyone would expect any more out of him.

Again, I'm not defending his views on this but I think we should allow room
for error before deciding that someone who does not actually live in Syria
or Palestine or make significant political decisions about either of those
places is categorically blacklisted from contributing to discussion about
one or the other.

- Amith

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[Marxism] The Belgian left and Assad

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The Left in Times of Terror

The main force of Belgium’s radical left, the Workers’ Party of Belgium 
— with ten thousand members and national and regional MPs — found itself 
well-positioned after the attacks. It has implanted itself in many 
working-class neighborhoods in Brussels and Antwerp, which have a large 
Muslim-background population. It also has a strong presence in certain 
trade unions, and a positive relationship with a number of social 
movements like Hart Boven Hard and Tout Autre Chose.


Spokesman Raoul Hedebouw is well-liked in the south of the country, 
particularly on account of his denunciation of austerity and tax 
injustice, the seriousness of which was underlined by the Panama Papers.


Nonetheless, like other left forces in Europe, the PTB is ill-at-ease 
when faced with the question of terrorism. Its MPs abstained on the July 
2015 bill to strip people of their nationality, although they issued a 
public apology six months later for their lack of direct opposition to 
the measure. Their actions when the government devoted an extra €400 
million to the anti-terrorism budget also sent mixed messages.


Similarly, its appeals to combat hatred and division have often turned 
into a discourse of “national unity,” and its public narrative around 
racism does not go beyond decrying the “division” it creates among workers.


The PTB claims to follow a pragmatic approach and has focused its 
critiques on how ineffective the government’s anti-terrorism measures 
are, instead calling for a so-called targeted approach. But social 
movements and the forces of the radical left have every interest in 
naming and specifically fighting the dangers that the strong state, 
national unity, and rampant Islamophobia pose to all democratic and 
social rights.


The radical left uniformly rejects Belgium’s participation in the 
coalition airstrikes in Iraq and Syria and its multi-billion-euro 
purchase of fighter planes. However, the PTB combines this with a 
worldview that is too uncritical of the Assad regime and the role of 
Iran and Russia in the region.


This is not without consequence: by supporting Assad as a lesser evil 
fighting ISIS, the democratic parts of the Syrian opposition are erased. 
As is the root of the Islamist counterrevolution, which is the product 
of both imperialism and a brutal local dictatorship.


Above all, the PTB ignores the fact that pro-Assad forces are 
responsible for the vast majority of civilian deaths in Syria, deploying 
an array of methods just as abominable as those that have made ISIS so 
infamous. The mainstream narrative surrounding the Paris and Brussels 
attacks proclaimed that the few hundred terrible deaths in Europe matter 
more than those of hundreds of thousands of Syrian (and Iraqi) civilians 
— most of them Sunni Arabs. By refusing to seriously account for the 
forces behind those deaths, the Left has acted similarly.


Probably the global left’s worst mistake since the turn of the century 
has been to refuse any consistent solidarity with the Syrian rebels. 
During March’s partial truce, the Syrians resumed their daily 
demonstrations attacking Assad as well as ISIS and Al Nusra. Now the 
situation has deteriorated even further. Only popular resistance can 
deny ISIS its popular base and territory in any lasting manner.


Here, just as over there, terrorist attacks serve the mutual interests 
of the neoliberal police state and reactionary forces, and create the 
possibility of paralysis that would deny all hope to social struggles.


Perhaps it is still not too late to radically change direction. If 
popular movements and the forces of the radical left pick up the red 
thread of internationalism, they can offer sense and perspective to the 
anger and disorientation mounting in the degenerating capitalist world.


The Left must fight against the state’s repressive forces, take back the 
streets in resistance to austerity and all forms of racism, and show 
real solidarity with global popular movements. If we don’t, the combined 
forces of neoliberalism and terrorism will continue to repress political 
and social life, not just in Syria or Belgium, but all over the world.




full: 
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/09/belgium-terrorism-attacks-lockdown-right-wing-racism/

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[Marxism] The #czarnyprotest and Monday’s women strike might be a turning point in Polish politics

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http://www.internationalviewpoint.org/spip.php?article4721

 Mark Bergfeld, who researches Polish immigrant workers as part of his PhD, 
spoke to Aleksandra Wolke who is a feminist activist and on the steering 
committee of the Razem party in London and Mikołaj Ratajczak, a philosopher who 
edits the Praktyka Teoretyczna journal and is a member of the Razem party in 
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Re: [Marxism] Hillary Clinton Doesn’t Deserve the Black Vote

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The original analogy was Vilfredo Pareto 1848-1923,
http://media.pfeiffer.edu/lridener/DSS/Pareto/PARETOW6.HTML

He described this as the mechanisms by which the ruling circles remained in
power and the way in which the toiling masses are left with no alternatives
but to pick the lesser predator.
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[Marxism] Hillary Clinton Doesn’t Deserve the Black Vote

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Clay Claiborne said:
95% of the Afro-Americans you see on TV and think flirting with Trump are being 
well paid to fool you. You may not understand how GOP politics is play in the 
US, but I do. 

Googling your Malcolm X quote turns up nothing. If you can rephrase I will try 
again. What I did find was this pro-Trump piece:

"Hillary Is Closer To Mussolini Than Trump Is To Hitler"

www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-13/hillary-closer-mussolini-trump-hitler




Ken Hiebert replies:
Previously I said:
I think Malcolm X once said, "If they want you to vote for Mussolini, they'll 
run Hitler against him."

So far I have found nothing on line that would support my recollection.  The 
closest I came to this was Malcolm X's description of the liberals and 
conservatives as the fox and the wolf.
I did run across an interesting discussion of his stance on the 1964 election.  
He clearly did not support Johnson.  And there is debate over whether or not he 
advocated a vote for Goldwater.
http://www.nytimes.com/1964/09/08/malcolm-x-article-favors-goldwater.html?_r=0

As for some Afro-Americans I have seen on TV advocating support for Trump, you 
could be right.  They might be paid.
But their appeal to black voters is based on the idea that they can get more 
out of the Democrats if the Democrats see some black voters moving to the 
Republicans. 
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Re: [Marxism] Riad Alarian responds to Max Blumenthal on FB

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One excellent point in particular made by Sam must be emphasized:
When the Assadists terrorist-bait the White Helmets, or label entire cities
as "under terrorist control" (Khalek), they are aiding and abetting murder.
I am being literal; their words have consequences! The climate they create
says to our rulers that no-one will complain if the bombing/torture/sieges
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Re: [Marxism] Riad Alarian responds to Max Blumenthal on FB

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Sam Charles Hamad chimes in:

Max Blumenthal can never again fault one supporter of Israel's 
aggression against Palestinians or one gangsterish propagandist of any 
government he doesn't like for claiming that aid organisations are, if 
we're being honest, worthy targets. That's what Max is doing. The White 
Helmets are a part of the Syrian revolution. They operate in areas of 
Syria liberated by rebels and their victims are like the vast majority 
of *victims* in Syria - those people targeted by Assad and his allies.


Blumenthal is making the case for these people, those who carry no 
weapons but rather carry maimed and all too often murdered children out 
of rubble, to be annihilated. You might think that's hyperbole, but 
that's at the heart of these smears. These people are so thorough in 
their support for fascist, genocidal counter-revolution in Syria. It's 
remarkable. And people keep telling me I shouldn't 'write them off'. 
It's too late. It's gone past that. If Mr Blumenthal was in front of me, 
I would not be responsible for my actions. This snot-nosed child of 
ultra-privileged political aristocracy - I used to think his rebellion 
against the politics of his parents was perhaps accidentally noble, but 
he's proved beyond all doubt that he's as good as a fascist. Perhaps 
even more sinister than your standard fascist.


When, for example, the Neo-Nazi Nick Griffin made the same claims as Max 
and his ilk about the 'White Helmets', at the time of Jo Cox's murder 
(Cox, if you remember, was a major patron of the White Helmets in life 
and hundreds of thousands was raised for them posthumously on her 
GoFundMe page at the prompting of her husband), hardly anybody cared. 
You expect fascists like Griffin to support fascism, whether it's in 
Aldershot or Aleppo, but Max Blumenthal is considered by millions across 
the world to be a 'progressive' - to be a leftist. His poison against 
the White Helmets is part of a wider attempt to legitimise their murder 
and, in general, the genocide in Syria being carried out by Assad, Iran 
and Russia.


I beg everybody - it's time to treat these people as fascists. They are 
no better. They are legitimising murder, ethnic cleansing and genocide. 
People need to treat them as they deserve to be treated. No more excuses 
- excusing them is to be complicit with them.

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Re: [Marxism] Riad Alarian responds to Max Blumenthal on FB

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>
> that's great re your piece on the Greens. Of course we'll have to rebut
> all the trolling it will generate.
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Re: [Marxism] Riad Alarian responds to Max Blumenthal on FB

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On 10/3/16 3:05 PM, Andrew Pollack via Marxism wrote:


Riad is co-editor of the wonderful publication Muftah (muftah.org)
Louis where was this originally posted?


On FB. Btw, I have an article appearing in Muftah tomorrow about Syria 
and the Green Party. Riad has guts publishing it.

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Re: [Marxism] Fukushima radiation has contaminated the entire Pacific Ocean

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On 2016-10-03 20:17, Dennis Brasky via Marxism wrote:


Your method seems to be "false by association". Sorry - not good 
enough.


No, that wouldn't be good enough. But I did a quick look at the article 
and the links supporting its conclusions and can say that they appear no 
more credible than the one about the Rothschilds. I'd expect that the 
links forwarded by Les (which I haven't read, don't need to) would 
contain more trustworthy information.


Specifically what I noted immediately were claims of the sort:

"Iodine-131 levels in the air that were up to 300 times above the normal 
background levels. as high as nearly 1,000 times background levels"


This is laughable. Iodine 131 has a half-life of only 8 days. Thus it 
essentially doesn't persist in the environment and 1000x background 
levels would still be almost nothing.


I would never downplay the dangers of low-level radiation or radioactive 
isotope contamination, since a safe "lower limit" probably doesn't 
exist, and awareness of its danger has consistently increased over the 
last century or so. However comparing the danger of radioactive 
contamination diluted by something as large as the pacific ocean with 
the REAL danger faced by Japanese living near (or not so near) to 
Fukushima, is even worse than comparing the danger of "terrorism" in 
Western Europe to what people face in Syria.


- Jeff



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Re: [Marxism] Riad Alarian responds to Max Blumenthal on FB

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Riad is co-editor of the wonderful publication Muftah (muftah.org)
Louis where was this originally posted?
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[Marxism] Riad Alarian responds to Max Blumenthal on FB

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Max Blumenthal, your Alternet article is beyond disappointing and 
shameful. I had for long considered you a friend and an ally, but you 
have irreparably hurt the Syrian people, and me, with what you've 
published here. When Palestinians seek amplification, you rightly 
channel their grievances. As Egyptians are wilting-away under Sisi and 
his goons, you stand on the side of justice. But do you think that just 
because you hold morally conscientious positions on these causes that I 
will ignore the fact that you are a sounding board for the Baathist amen 
corner in Syria? In the face of Syria's tragedies, you have done nothing 
but echo the exact same propaganda against revolutionaries, aid-workers, 
and their allies that the likes of Vanessa Beeley and Eva Bartlett 
constantly spew. Whether you realize it or not, you have committed a 
great injustice. You have contributed to the online compendium of 
propaganda against Syrians that continues to provide intellectual cover 
for their suffering. There is nothing morally courageous or 
intellectually novel about rehashing the exact same nonsense 
pro-Baathist outlets like Global Research have been spreading for years, 
and which Syrians and their allies in support of the revolution have 
been persistently discrediting.


I remember when you quit your job at Al-Akhbar over their pro-Assad 
work. What a principled thing to have done. And now look at you. One 
step forward, one-hundred steps back.


You talk about the dangers of regime change without taking into 
consideration the fact that the Syrian revolution is completely 
dependent on regime change, and that the overwhelming majority of 
Syrians are in favor of regime change, precisely because of the danger 
the continued existence of the status quo poses. You only inspect the 
merit of regime change, and the Syrian revolution more generally, 
through the prism of US interests. The proximity of the US government's 
activities--whether real or imagined--define the extent of your interest 
in Syria, and inform your horrendous biases. You speak about the 
potential disasters of regime change while you mitigate the severity of 
the current disaster on Syrian lives brought about by the continued 
existence of that very regime. Hundreds of thousands dead, and you want 
to talk about "potential disasters?"


What happened to internationalism? What happened to looking at popular 
liberation struggles through the eyes of those who define them? Or are 
the only causes worth supporting the secular ones, absent of all the 
beardy-weirdy Islamists and "jihadists" you seem to now fear so much?
Just have a look at who is proudly sharing and endorsing your article on 
social media. Every single pro-Assad scumbag is lauding your piece with 
great enthusiasm. What does that say? More importantly, how should I 
interpret your close colleague Rania’s sudden agreeability on Syria with 
Max Abrahms, that filthy apologist for Israeli crimes? Or are you now 
willing to forget about that because he slanders Syria with the same 
fervor as you?


You must remember, Max, that you can never, at any moment or under any 
virtual circumstance, ever be anything more than an ally in the 
struggles of Arabs and Muslims--and even that designation now seems too 
much for you. By virtue of your White, secular, privileged identity, you 
will never be a mainstay of our causes no matter how much you desire to. 
You are not Palestinian, Syrian, or Arab, and you never will be. We are 
the gatekeepers of our causes and narratives, we decide who stays in and 
who stays out. Evidently, you have, through this horrendous article of 
yours, decided to willingly show yourself out. Good riddance. I swear to 
God Almighty and on the honor of Arab and Muslim liberation, when 
Palestine and Syria are finally free, your name will go completely 
unremembered--you will not have a place among us. I will sip tea on the 
shores of Yaffa, prostrate in the abode of Damascus, and take comfort in 
the knowledge of your absence.

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Re: [Marxism] Fukushima radiation has contaminated the entire Pacific Ocean

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there are a couple good debunkers of the hype around. here is one, tho a 
little old. has some good links


http://www.deepseanews.com/2013/11/true-facts-about-ocean-radiation-and-the-fukushima-disaster/

yes, the low levels ARE spreading eastward:

  https://fukushimainform.ca/

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/08/12/1559506/-Citizen-Science-Update-August-2016-More-Than-250-Coastal-Seawater-Samples-For-Fukushima-Monitoring

from physics.org but consistent with above:

http://phys.org/news/2016-06-fukushima-oceans-years.html

rivers worse than ocean:

http://www.ecowatch.com/radiation-fukushima-rivers-200-times-higher-than-pacific-ocean-seabed-1937971722.html

Les


On 10/03/2016 10:21 AM, Dennis Brasky via Marxism wrote:

You still haven't disproven the claim of the article as I was hoping
someone would! Even a broken clock is correct twice a day.


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Re: [Marxism] Fukushima radiation has contaminated the entire Pacific Ocean

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> On Oct 3, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Dennis Brasky  wrote:
> 
> Your method seems to be "false by association".

You don’t seem to have read my message with comprehension, since I stated that 
I think it’s probably true.
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Re: [Marxism] Fukushima radiation has contaminated the entire Pacific Ocean

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This is an older article, but it seems a bit less alarmist:

http://www.sciencealert.com/highest-but-stilll-safe-levels-of-fukushima-radiation-to-date-detected-off-the-us-west-coast

"Researchers have detected 110 new contaminated sites off the American Pacific 
coast, including the highest levels of radioactive contamination around 2,500 
km west of San Francisco. That's still 500 times below US government safety 
limits for drinking water, so there's no need to panic even if you've recently 
been swimming or fishing in the Pacific.”

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Re: [Marxism] Fukushima radiation has contaminated the entire Pacific Ocean

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> On Oct 3, 2016, at 10:21 AM, Dennis Brasky  wrote:
> 
> You still haven't disproven the claim of the article as I was hoping someone 
> would!

And you haven’t proven that the moon isn’t made of cheese.

Fukushima was a catastrophe, and it’s worth paying attention to the ongoing 
fallout, but that’s a poor excuse for sharing badly written stories from 
problematic sources to what one would like to think aspires to be a reasonably 
serious discussion list. The "article” you forwarded is little more than a 
string of hand-wringing insinuations, and the closest thing it offers to 
“evidence” in support of the headline (which I suspect is basically true, for 
the record) is a link to a radio interview with someone who appears to be a New 
Zealand radio talk show host. Pretty thin stuff, comrade.

Meanwhile, this “activist” website offers us headlines that include (in 
addition to the one about “Rothchild banks”):

"These 20 Celebrities Support Donald Trump—And You Won’t Believe Who They Are!"
"Celebrities With The Most Expensive Cars In The World"
"42 Female Celebs and Their Incredible Weight Loss Journey"

I’m cautiously confident you can do better.
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Re: [Marxism] The Syrian uprising and the illusions of the permanent revolution

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Oy.
The Mensheviks are back at it.
Once again 90% of their argument against permanent revolution is based on
whether particular worker organizing/mobilizing/theoretical steps are
possible or likely. And their answer is always No. Nowhere do they talk
about how the democratic revolution is on the defensive because the only
other significant class - the bourgeoisie - is AGAINST the democratic
revolution.
If Communist Voice is really for that revolution they should be helping
workers advance, not lecturing them about their powerlessness.
p.s. has CVO done anything for the Alexandria Shipyard Workers?
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[Marxism] Fwd: Max Blumenthal follows Ben Norton down the bloody primrose path | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

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In today’s Alternet Max Blumenthal joins fellow liberal hack Ben Norton 
in joining the Baathist amen corner. Like Norton, Blumenthal once had a 
reputation for bucking the “anti-imperialists” cheering for a latter-day 
Francisco Franco. Norton was an ex-member of the International Socialist 
Organization and had mostly made money writing as a free-lancer for 
liberal ‘zines like Alternet. While I have no idea how much he makes now 
writing for Salon, a prime source of Assadist propaganda, it certainly 
must more than what Norton made as a free-lancer. Meanwhile, Blumenthal, 
who unlike Norton never had a Marxist background to betray, has seen his 
career moving in the opposite direction. While once prominent enough to 
be a guest on MSNBC, our boy Max is now free-lancing for Alternet where 
his crapola appeared this morning.


full: 
https://louisproyect.org/2016/10/03/max-blumenthal-follows-ben-norton-down-the-bloody-primrose-path/

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[Marxism] The Syrian uprising and the illusions of the permanent revolution

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>From the Detroit Workers' Voice list for October 2, 2016:
A reply to some supporters of the permanent revolution

1. Reply to redrave: The reality of the Syrian uprising
vs. the illusions of the permanent revolution
2. Redrave's polemic against the Communist Voice Organization 
3. A list of some CVO articles on the Arab Spring and the Syrian uprising

Reply to redrave: The reality of the Syrian uprising
vs. the illusions of the permanent revolution 


By Joseph Green, Communist Voice Organization

A polemic has appeared against the Communist Voice Organization's position on 
Syria. It was written by the Communist Workers' Group of Aotearoa/New 
Zealand, which is a Trotskyist group which calls its website "red rave". By 
putting forward absurdly unrealistic scenarios for Syria, it inadvertently 
shows how useless the theory of "permanent revolution" is in dealing with the 
struggle against the dictator Assad. Redrave denounces as "unconscious 
Assadists" all those who "support the Syrian revolution", but don't see the 
democratic struggle in Syria as a socialist revolution.

So at a time when there's a major fight in the left over the attitude to the 
dictator Assad and whether to support the democratic movement in Syria, 
redrave says that all those who don't agree with the Trotskyist theory of 
"permanent revolution" are really "unconscious Assadists". That's an 
astonishing feat of sectarianism. As those who read the Detroit Workers' 
Voice list know, the DWV list has reprinted statements from Syrian and 
American activists denouncing the US-Russian deal and opposing the Assad 
dictatorship. We have indicated where we have disagreements with these 
statements, but despite our disagreements we have welcomed statements from 
Terry Burke, from prominent Syrian intellectuals, and from a number of 
American activists. Redrave, however, would regard them all as "unconscious 
Assadists".

Redrave insists that the Syrian uprising is a socialist movement. It writes 
that "There can be no victorious bourgeois national revolution anymore unless 
it is a permanent or socialist revolution."

But anyone who looks seriously at the situation in Syria knows that even a 
successful overthrow of Assad will not lead to socialism. It would be of 
immense importance; it would spread political life throughout Syria; and it 
would change the Middle East. It would open the way for class struggle. But 
socialism itself isn't imminent in Syria, or any country at this time.

Redrave, however, insists that one can see "Permanent Revolution in the 
flesh" in Syria, arguing that workers' soviets are being built there. It 
exaggerates beyond measure the nature of the committees and local groups that 
exist in opposition-run areas of Syria, saying that "These are not 
institutions of bourgeois democracy but of workers' democracy. They are the 
result of proto workers communes that if joined up would be the basis for an 
embryonic workers' state. ...  That is why our program in Syria is ... armed 
workers soviets everywhere!"

The Syrian people have shown tremendous initiative in building local 
committees, militias, and groups. They have done so despite half a century of 
enforced political passivity under the Ba'ath dictatorship. They have 
continued to  struggle despite incredible hardships. These are heroic actions 
of the Syrian people, which will never be forgotten.

But the local groups aren't soviets. They are groups that deal with the 
immediate necessity of the democratic uprising, and have a mixed class 
character. Only people with their eye's closed, people drunk on abstract 
dogma, can see this as the spread of armed workers' soviets. The theory of 
"permanent revolution" encourages this wild speculation. It leaves no room 
for considering what these committees really are, what their immediate tasks 
are, or even what is the specific role of socialists in this situation.

Redrave goes on to talk about what it thinks is the true immediate 
perspective for the Syrian struggle. Based on the theory of "permanent 
revolution", it looks forward to the Syrian uprising doing such things as the 
following:

* "fight(ing) the Arab and Kurd national revolutions as one workers' 
revolution".

* "...the workers and peasants ... split(ting) decisively from their 
treacherous 
bourgeois and petty-bourgeois class leaders and join(ing) forces with workers 
and peasants of the whole MENA [Middle East and North Africa]."

* "Iraqi, Egyptian, Palestinian, Kurd, and Iranian workers and peasants ... 
tak(ing) the lead in their own national revolutions against imperialism, and 
turn(ing) 

Re: [Marxism] Report (with Pictures and Videos) from Rally in Solidarity with Aleppo

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At 17:38 03-10-16 +0200, RKOB via Marxism wrote:
> http://www.thecommunists.net/rcit/rally-for-aleppo/
>.Not surprisingly, not a single Austrian left-wing organization except
ours 
>joined the rally. This reflects the abstentionist or even pro-Assadist 
>position of large sectors of the Stalinist, social democratic and centrist 
>left, as well as the increasing Islamophobia in Europe, something which 
>regrettably has also infected the so-called “left”.

Yes, I'm afraid I have to agree with that bleak assessment. (But good for
you in breaking that unfortunate pattern!). 

It appears (as in Vienna) that it has largely been Syrian refugees (and
former emigrants) who have been involved in the weekend actions calling
attention to the humanitarian disaster facing Aleppo. The demonstration in
the Hague I had earlier described did have some sponsorship from human
right organizations. But the somewhat larger demonstration in Amsterdam on
Saturday appeared to be attended largely by Syrians. About 2/3 of the
speakers spoke in Arabic which the audience seemed to understand. From my
photos:

http://meisner.home.xs4all.nl/Aleppo2016/index.html#Amsterdam

you can again see that there was no obvious participation by the left. I
could mention that the Dutch International Socialists did publicize the
actions. But either they were keeping a very low profile at the event
(rather than their MO of coming with their own placards and selling their
paper), or (more likely) didn't bother to actually show up (even in the
center of Amsterdam, their largest base of support, on a non-workday!). 

But I'm afraid that's all an old story by now

- Jeff 




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Re: [Marxism] Brown student responds to NYT op-ed about anti-Semitism

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I've made a film about the slavery issue. It is not perfect but the efforts
by Brown were a total PR farce with zero benefit to the general public.
They go on gentrifying and doing other awful stuff regularly.

https://youtu.be/bFs739u5NL0


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On 10/2/16 2:05 PM, Andrew Stewart via Marxism wrote:
> But if we're going to talk about racism, let's talk about Brown
gentrifying
> black/brown neighborhoods for the past 50 years.

NY Times Editorial, Oct. 23 2006
Brown University?s Debt to Slavery

A long-awaited report on Brown University?s 18th-century links to
slavery should dispel any lingering smugness among Northerners that
slavery was essentially a Southern problem.

The report establishes that Brown did indeed benefit in its early years
from money generated by the slave trade and by industries dependent on
slavery. It did so in an era when slavery permeated the social and
economic life of Rhode Island. Slaves accounted for 10 percent of the
state?s population in the mid-18th century, when Brown was founded, and
Rhode Island served as a northern hub of the trans-Atlantic slave trade,
mounting at least 1,000 voyages that carried more than 100,000 Africans
into slavery over the course of a century.

The Brown report is the latest revelation that Northern businesses and
institutions benefited from slavery. Countless other institutions might
be surprised, and ashamed, if they dug deeply into their pasts as Brown
has over the past three years.

The Committee on Slavery and Justice, composed of faculty, students and
administrators, found that some 30 members of Brown?s governing board
owned or captained slave ships, and donors sometimes contributed slave
labor to help in construction. The Brown family owned slaves and engaged
in the slave trade, although one family member became a leading
abolitionist and had his own brother prosecuted for illegal slave
trading. The college did not own or trade slaves.

The hard question is what to do about it. The committee makes sensible
recommendations ? creating a center for the study of slavery and
injustice, rewriting Brown?s history to acknowledge the role of slavery,
creating a memorial to the slave trade in Rhode Island, and recruiting
more minority students. Other proposals are more problematic. But the
value of this exercise was to illuminate a history that had been
?largely erased from the collective memory of our university and state.?

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[Marxism] Report (with Pictures and Videos) from Rally in Solidarity with Aleppo

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http://www.thecommunists.net/rcit/rally-for-aleppo/

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[Marxism] query re fascist symps

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I've been comparing Assadistas to the mid-20th century "Friends of the
Soviet [Stalinist] Union" crowd.
But Idrees Ahmad's evocation of Lord Haw Haw in today's dust-up over Max
Blumenthal made me realize the comparison to western fascist sympathizers
is salient in its own way.
So US folks: who besides Henry Ford and Charles Lindbergh have we got? (I
don't mean the fascists themselves like Father Coughlin, I mean US
"mainstream" sympathizers with Hitler, Mussolini, etc.)
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Re: [Marxism] Fukushima radiation has contaminated the entire Pacific Ocean

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You still haven't disproven the claim of the article as I was hoping
someone would! Even a broken clock is correct twice a day.

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 2:43 AM, MM  wrote:

>
> On Oct 3, 2016, at 12:37 AM, Dennis Brasky via Marxism <
> marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote:
>
> http://www.trueactivist.com/fukushima-radiation-has-
> contaminated-the-entire-pacific-ocean-and-its-going-to-get-worse/
>
>
> Yeah, maybe — but this same “activist” website gives us:
>
> Victory! Hungary Becomes First European Nation To Ban Rothschild Banks
> http://www.trueactivist.com/victory-hungary-becomes-first-
> european-nation-to-ban-rothschild-banks/
>
> …
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[Marxism] Fwd: The Kurdish Question Then and Now by Samir Amin | Monthly Review

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(Maybe Samir Amin should retire from political analysis. When I saw the 
title of his article, I automatically assumed that it would bad mouth 
the Kurds. There are any number of problems with the Kurdish movement 
but the idea that they are a proxy of the USA is absurd. And in terms of 
destroying society in Syria, Bashar al-Assad has no competition.)


The new Kurdish question is the product of recent U.S. strategy, which 
has given itself the goal of destroying the state and society in Iraq 
and Syria, while waiting to attack Iran.


http://monthlyreview.org/2016/10/01/the-kurdish-question-then-and-now/
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[Marxism] Fwd: The Desegregation and Resegregation of Charlotte’s Schools - The New Yorker

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[Marxism] Fwd: Inside the Shadowy PR Firm That’s Lobbying for Regime Change in Syria | Alternet

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Max Blumenthal morphs into Vanessa Beeley.

http://www.alternet.org/world/inside-shadowy-pr-firm-thats-driving-western-opinion-towards-regime-change-syria
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[Marxism] Colombia votes down peace deal in shock result, but FARC and gov't commit to ending conflict

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The "No" vote was won by a half of a percentage point in a Colombian
plebiscite on October 2 on a peace deal between the government and the
left-wing Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC), which aims to end
more than five decades of civil war.
The agonisingly narrow vote (with about 70,000 votes difference) means the
deal failed to receive popular ratification in a poll marred by a turn out
of less than 40%. However, despite the result, TeleSUR English reported
,
both the FARC and President Juan Manuel Santos reaffirmed support for the
cease fire across the country, and to seeking a peaceful resolution.

https://www.greenleft.org.au/content/colombia-votes-down-peace-deal-shock-result-farc-and-govt-commit-ending-conflict
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[Marxism] on change

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I followed the links that Lou sent and read Hudson's review of Galbraith.
I am surprised that Galbraith was surprised by what the Troika did to
Greece. The smashing of Syriza was  politically essential for  *encourager
les autres. *In that it seems to have succeeded because the onward march of
Podemos and Sinn Fein has been halted.

With Sanders folding and becoming  a cheer leader for Clinton, Corbynism
seems to be the only remaining game in town.

But his position is far from secure, even though he had a resounding
victory in the leadership election.  His opponents will endeavor to keep
him tied down within the Westminster bubble where he is clearly at a
disadvantage.  His party is mostly treacherous and disloyal. As a
consequence, the Government know that when they mock Corbyn in parliament,
most of his own party are cheering them on.

For Corbyn's political colleagues, their main weapon of choice will be
leaks to the media. They will complain that he does not genuinely want to
be Prime Minister, while they do all the can to push Labour down in the
polls.

Out in the constituencies the local party apparatchiks and the MPs will do
all they can to choke off the enthusiasm of the new members. Operation
Boredom will be the order of the day.

So it is a negative stalling and spoiling game that the anti-Corbyn forces
will play. Meanwhile the Corbyn camp appears to be listening to the
appeasers. "Peace in Our Time" would seem to be the slogan and so the Party
bureaucracy, the Old Right, the Blairites and the Soft Left live to fight
another day.

I watched Paul Mason debating Ed Balls the former  Labour Shadow Chancellor
who lost his seat in the 2015 election. I was struck by how much Balls was
tied to a static view of the world.  For him the task is to persuade those
who voted Tory to vote Labour.  He did not mention the millions who stopped
voting out of despair at the rightward drift of the Labour Party. Nor did
he seem to take into account the rapid period of change that is on us. The
ebbing and flowing and surging and pooling of political time are outside
the ken of bourgeois or positivist thought, based as it is on the
conviction that what is on the surface, is all there is.

Balls and his ilk simply cannot comprehend why hundreds of thousands would
flock to join the Labour Party.  He dismisses them as a 'mob' and pins his
hopes on the millions who voted Tory. They cannot be changed through an
ideological struggle.  Rather, the Left must accommodate to them. Hence the
outcry when Corbyn refuses to attack immigration levels. Polly Toynbee of
the Guardian said he has chosen "martyrdom".

I remain cautiously optimistic. But I cannot give a coherent reason for
that optimism.  It just seems to me that the hegemony of neoliberal
capitalism is weakening significantly and the next economic shock could be
the telling blow. I am of course aware that the economic crisis can give
rise to forces on the far right. But a rational decent resolution of the
conjuncture should not be ruled out in advance, certainly not by the Left.

comradely

Gary
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Re: [Marxism] Fukushima radiation has contaminated the entire Pacific Ocean

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> On Oct 3, 2016, at 2:43 AM, MM  wrote:
> 
>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 12:37 AM, Dennis Brasky via Marxism 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> http://www.trueactivist.com/fukushima-radiation-has-contaminated-the-entire-pacific-ocean-and-its-going-to-get-worse/
>>  
>> 
> 
> 
> … which in turn links (with implied endorsement) to a story that pukes up the 
> following dreck onto our computer screen:
> 
> "There are researchers who suggest that Queen Victoria was 
> "friendly/familiar" with Nathan Rothschild and he fathered some of her 
> children. Five lines of the Austrian branch of the family have been elevated 
> to Austrian nobility, Another line, of the British branch of the family, was 
> elevated by Queen Victoria herself, who granted two hereditary titles of 
> Baronet (1847) and Baron (1885) which ennobled the family. To that extent, 
> there was a merging of the two crowns: The Royal Crown of Finance 
> historically, and the Royal Crown of Britain.   The results were many years 
> of conspiracy and cooperation that benefited both houses.  
> 
> "I’d say it is no coincidence that the Rothschilds are reportedly widely 
> responsible for the infiltration of the British Royal family and it is widely 
> speculated by many researchers that their ties are far closer than what I 
> have described here, some researchers even suggest we are soon to have a 
> Rothschild on the throne… “

Sorry, meant to include the link for that nasty shit: 
http://www.conspiracytruths.co.uk/rothschilds.html

Don’t miss the graphics.


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Re: [Marxism] Fukushima radiation has contaminated the entire Pacific Ocean

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> On Oct 3, 2016, at 12:37 AM, Dennis Brasky via Marxism 
>  wrote:
> 
> http://www.trueactivist.com/fukushima-radiation-has-contaminated-the-entire-pacific-ocean-and-its-going-to-get-worse/
>  
> 


Yeah, maybe — but this same “activist” website gives us:

Victory! Hungary Becomes First European Nation To Ban Rothschild Banks
http://www.trueactivist.com/victory-hungary-becomes-first-european-nation-to-ban-rothschild-banks/

… which in turn links (with implied endorsement) to a story that pukes up the 
following dreck onto our computer screen:

"There are researchers who suggest that Queen Victoria was "friendly/familiar" 
with Nathan Rothschild and he fathered some of her children. Five lines of the 
Austrian branch of the family have been elevated to Austrian nobility, Another 
line, of the British branch of the family, was elevated by Queen Victoria 
herself, who granted two hereditary titles of Baronet (1847) and Baron (1885) 
which ennobled the family. To that extent, there was a merging of the two 
crowns: The Royal Crown of Finance historically, and the Royal Crown of 
Britain.   The results were many years of conspiracy and cooperation that 
benefited both houses.  

"I’d say it is no coincidence that the Rothschilds are reportedly widely 
responsible for the infiltration of the British Royal family and it is widely 
speculated by many researchers that their ties are far closer than what I have 
described here, some researchers even suggest we are soon to have a Rothschild 
on the throne… “

And just to repeat the opening phrases of those two paragraphs to make sure 
they are appreciated in all their glory:

"There are researchers who suggest…” 

"I’d say it is no coincidence that the Rothschilds are reportedly widely 
responsible…”

Obviously somebody is angling for a Pulitzer. And maybe a Luger.


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