Re: [Marxism] Ah, the madness
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * I don't want to know how you know! On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Greg McDonald via Marxism > > > I know for a fact that George Shultz has a tiger tattoo. On his behind. > > _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Ah, the madness
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * I know for a fact that George Shultz has a tiger tattoo. On his behind. On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Mark Lause via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > POSTING RULES & NOTES > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > * > > I think Goering had a little Aryan bunny rabbit tatooed on his ass. Though > I probably saw this in a History channel documentary . . . . > > ML > _ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/gregmc59% > 40gmail.com > _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Ah, the madness
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * I think Goering had a little Aryan bunny rabbit tatooed on his ass. Though I probably saw this in a History channel documentary . . . . ML _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Ah, the madness
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On 9/26/16 7:51 AM, Stephen Shalom via Marxism wrote: Louis Proyect wrote I hate Putin but the fact is that Russia has signed a no-first strike pledge while Obama just refused to do so. This is not so. In 1993 Russia revoked its 1982 no-first-use pledge, http://www.nytimes.com/1993/11/04/world/russia-drops-pledge-of-no-first-use-of-atom-arms.html, and it continues to have a policy of first-use in specified conditions (like the US) http://www.nti.org/learn/countries/russia/nuclear/ For more details from a rightwing think tank, see http://www.nipp.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/FINAL-FOR-WEB-1.12.16.pdf Steve Shalom I guess I came to the wrong conclusion based on an official Russian statement that was cited in the 60 Minutes episode yesterday: "Russia reserves the right to use all forces and means at its disposal, including nuclear weapons, in case an armed aggression creates a threat to the very existence of the Russian Federation as an independent sovereign state." These words were interpreted by 60 Minutes and the military brass they interviewed as an existential threat to the USA in the manner of what Freud called projection. By contrast, the earring-bedecked asshole from the Rand Corporation made the case for the use of those teeny-weeny B-61's in case Russia invaded Estonia and Latvia. WTF? To repeat myself, I loathe Putin but I am desperately afraid of America as Allen Ginsberg might have said. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Ah, the madness
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Louis Proyect wrote I hate Putin but the fact is that Russia has signed a no-first strike pledge while Obama just refused to do so. This is not so. In 1993 Russia revoked its 1982 no-first-use pledge, http://www.nytimes.com/1993/11/04/world/russia-drops-pledge-of-no-first-use-of-atom-arms.html, and it continues to have a policy of first-use in specified conditions (like the US) http://www.nti.org/learn/countries/russia/nuclear/ For more details from a rightwing think tank, see http://www.nipp.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/FINAL-FOR-WEB-1.12.16.pdf Steve Shalom On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 8:51 PM, Louis Proyect via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > POSTING RULES & NOTES > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > * > > > Just watched a segment on "60 Minutes" that was positively Orwellian. It > was about steps that the USA was taking to refurbish its nuclear strike > force, especially putting fins on the B-61 bunker buster that can be dialed > to deliver from .3 to 340 kilotons, just like a volume control on your > remote. They interviewed a crew of scumbag military officers defending > Obama's escalation, all with the intention of making it sound as if the USA > was doing it because of Putin's saber-rattling. I hate Putin but the fact > is that Russia has signed a no-first strike pledge while Obama just refused > to do so. > > The most horrifically surreal interview was with a guy named David Shlapak > from the RAND Corporation who had directed a series of war games > commissioned by the Pentagon in which Russia invaded the Baltic states of > Estonia and Latvia. This would be an ideal battleground to use B-61's if > you take Shlapak at his word. > > But what I couldn't get my eyes off of was the two earrings he had in his > left ear and the one he had on his right, looking for all the world like an > art gallery director. I said to myself that whatever life-style changes the > 60s induced could hardly seem more irrelevant to its deeper goals. Maybe > Shlapak had a tattoo on his ass. So did Goering for all I know. > > http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-risk-of-nuclear-attack-rises/ > _ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/opt > ions/marxism/stephenrshalom%40gmail.com > _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Ah, the madness
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Just watched a segment on "60 Minutes" that was positively Orwellian. It was about steps that the USA was taking to refurbish its nuclear strike force, especially putting fins on the B-61 bunker buster that can be dialed to deliver from .3 to 340 kilotons, just like a volume control on your remote. They interviewed a crew of scumbag military officers defending Obama's escalation, all with the intention of making it sound as if the USA was doing it because of Putin's saber-rattling. I hate Putin but the fact is that Russia has signed a no-first strike pledge while Obama just refused to do so. The most horrifically surreal interview was with a guy named David Shlapak from the RAND Corporation who had directed a series of war games commissioned by the Pentagon in which Russia invaded the Baltic states of Estonia and Latvia. This would be an ideal battleground to use B-61's if you take Shlapak at his word. But what I couldn't get my eyes off of was the two earrings he had in his left ear and the one he had on his right, looking for all the world like an art gallery director. I said to myself that whatever life-style changes the 60s induced could hardly seem more irrelevant to its deeper goals. Maybe Shlapak had a tattoo on his ass. So did Goering for all I know. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-risk-of-nuclear-attack-rises/ _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
