Re: [Marxism] Same-sex marriage referendum on Friday in south of Ireland
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Ah but will the Catholic Church ever allow legalized abortion and contraception? Sent from my iPhone On May 17, 2015, at 7:25 AM, Philip Ferguson via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * With just five days to the referendum on same-sex marriage in the south of Ireland, polls continue to indicate that a hefty majority of public opinion supports the right of same-sex couples to wed. It looks like the south of Ireland will be the first country where the population have voted in favour of gay marriage. What happened to the south of Ireland as the bastion of incredibly socially-conservative Catholicism? https://rdln.wordpress.com/2015/04/07/irish-society-and-politics-and-the-referendum-on-gay-marriage/ _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/bwpurplewins%40gmail.com _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Same-sex marriage referendum on Friday in south of Ireland
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone Barbara Winslow via Marxism wrote Ah but will the Catholic Church ever allow legalized abortion and contraception? For the sake of clarity, contraception is now legal. You can even find condom vending machines in pub toilets now. Abortion is still a hot potato. The Supreme Court issued a ruling some years ago demanding legislation but no government has dared to do anything about the ruling yet. On same-sex marriage the church has been campaigning against it, even getting the Pope to issue a statement, but it seems that most practising Catholics, the majority of the population, sre ignoring the Pope's advice! Einde O'Callaghan Sent from my iPhone On May 17, 2015, at 7:25 AM, Philip Ferguson via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: With just five days to the referendum on same-sex marriage in the south of Ireland, polls continue to indicate that a hefty majority of public opinion supports the right of same-sex couples to wed. It looks like the south of Ireland will be the first country where the population have voted in favour of gay marriage. What happened to the south of Ireland as the bastion of incredibly socially-conservative Catholicism? https://rdln.wordpress.com/2015/04/07/irish-society-and-politics-and-the-referendum-on-gay-marriage/ _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Same-sex marriage referendum on Friday in south of Ireland
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They didn't want to allow legal contraception. They lost.
They didn't want to allow abortion information to be legal. They lost.
They didn't want to allow divorce. They lost.
They didn't want the legalisation of gay sex. They lost.
They don't want same-sex marriage. They'll lose on Friday.
They've been pushed back on the right to abortion, but it's the thing
they've most been able to stop significant progress on. However, they're
fighting a losing battle on that. it's just going to take a bit longer and
be a bit harder fight.
The point is that the Catholic Church simply no longer has the same hold
over either the population at large or the institutions of both state and
civil society it once infected with its poisonous anti-humanism.
The tide has come in for social progress and gone out for religious
obscurantism and reaction in Ireland.
What the Catholic church will and won't allow now simply doesn't count
for much in Ireland.
Phil
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Ah but will the Catholic Church ever allow legalized abortion and
contraception?
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With just five days to the referendum on same-sex marriage in the south
of
Ireland, polls continue to indicate that a hefty majority of public
opinion
supports the right of same-sex couples to wed.
It looks like the south of Ireland will be the first country where the
population have voted in favour of gay marriage.
What happened to the south of Ireland as the bastion of incredibly
socially-conservative Catholicism?
https://rdln.wordpress.com/2015/04/07/irish-society-and-politics-and-the-referendum-on-gay-marriage/
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