Re: [Marxism] Gore Vidal in the Atlantic
S. Artesian wrote: > > Yeah, Vidal spoke out against the cops in 1968-- big deal, so did Abraham > Ribicoff and from the podium of the convention. Are we supposed to get all > misty-eyed over that 41 year old stance? > I will always have a soft spot for Vidal after reading this in "Palimpsest", one of his memoirs: "As I left Henry Kissinger in the Sistine Chapel, gazing thoughtfully at the hell section of 'The Last Judgment,' I said to the lady with me, 'Look, he's apartment hunting.'" YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Gore Vidal in the Atlantic
What are we to make of Alex Cockburn? Same thing. Essentially nostalgic for an era that never really existed-- "direct democracy," the innate decency of a "jury of one's peers" etc. etc. An archaic remnant of previous era, and as such, destined to become more and more reactionary. Yeah, Vidal spoke out against the cops in 1968-- big deal, so did Abraham Ribicoff and from the podium of the convention. Are we supposed to get all misty-eyed over that 41 year old stance? YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Gore Vidal in the Atlantic
Well, I didn't see any of that other stuff in the the article you linked us to. I haven't ever heard him speak about the Chinese, however I do recall his article about McVeigh in Vanity Fair written when the guy was a condemned man which I think focused on the civil liberties aspects of that case and the social causes of this phenomena, views that I recall had little that was objectionable. The idea that he promoted the racist views of these folks is incorrect or that adheres to "right wing nativism" is ridiculous. Moreover, Vidal, unlike much of the sectarian left which ran for cover at the time, spoke out against and stood up to the Daley and the Chicago cops and their defenders like Wm F. Buckley (who called him a fag and threatened him on the air) during the 1968 protests. Thus I think you misunderstand and therefore have misrepresented Vidal's views. > From: bhaskar.sunk...@gmail.com > Not just those disgusting, reprehensible comments, but have you ever heard > him discuss the "Chinese threat"? His anti-imperialism is right-wing > nativism, his defense of Timothy McVaugh, Pim Fortuyn and the militia > movement aren't aberrations. I wouldn't attach the word "left" anywhere > near him. _ Windows 7: Simplify your PC. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen1:102009 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Gore Vidal in the Atlantic
So what are we to make of Alex Cockburn who has been known to exhibit some of the same crankiness as Vidal in a more attenuated form? Jim F. On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:34:42 -0400 Bhaskar Sunkara writes: > Not just those disgusting, reprehensible comments, but have you ever > heard > him discuss the "Chinese threat"? His anti-imperialism is > right-wing > nativism, his defense of Timothy McVaugh, Pim Fortuyn and the > militia > movement aren't aberrations. I wouldn't attach the word "left" > anywhere > near him. > > On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Tom Cod wrote: > > > > > because of what, his comments on Polanski? Otherwise the > interview is the > > same old left-liberal he's always been. > > > Instant Debt Consolidation Quote Free debt consolidation quote online! No obligation. No credit check. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=DvLv9Gm2LzNF6sX-eQ8xUAAAJ1BRugI4sJACAWmXIev8NAFPAAQFAAg0kj8AAAMlABI2kQA= YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Gore Vidal in the Atlantic
because of what, his comments on Polanski? Otherwise the interview is the same old left-liberal he's always been. _ Windows 7: It helps you do more. Explore Windows 7. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen3:102009 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Gore Vidal in the Atlantic
I think I posted this a while back. It shows what a vile, revolting prick he's become (?) in his old age. On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:13 AM, David Thorstad wrote: > http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200910u/gore-vidal > YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
