Re: [Marxism] The infernal question mark
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On 1/4/11 6:50 PM, Billy O'Connor wrote: > They all look fine in Gnus, but then Gnus just knows what you mean to > say ahead of time. ;) you make me *Pine* for the days when i used XEmacs' VM. but seriously, if more people would consider using a real email application like Thunderbird or something written by serious people, these problems would vanish at little cost but the learning curve. i can talk to Lou about the idea of allowing HTML on the list. we disallowed it a decade ago because many people were not using HTML-capable email apps. maybe that's a list rule we can dispense with. but its part of the same problem. people using inferior email apps get garbage on their screen. Les Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] The infernal question mark
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == The diacritics appear correctly in Microsoft Outlook as well, but not in the correct font. Still the words are spelled correctly in Polish, Serbo-Croat, and Magyar.--TB -Original Message- From: marxism-bounces+tgbias=ptd@lists.econ.utah.edu [mailto:marxism-bounces+tgbias=ptd@lists.econ.utah.edu] On Behalf Of Les Schaffer Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:26 PM To: tgb...@ptd.net Subject: Re: [Marxism] The infernal question mark == Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On 1/4/11 4:18 PM, Paul Flewers wrote: > I have noticed that when my posts appear here, it is not just curly > quote marks and em and en dashes that become question marks: anything > beyond a very basic character set gets mutilated. For example, see how > these three Polish, Serbo-Croat and Hungarian names come out: Łódź, > Čošić, Ütő. Can this be changed at all? they render fine here in Thunderbird ... is handled fine in the archives as well: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/marxism/2011-January/073621.html but your posts are coming in UTF-8 character set (encoded in base64) and i think some people's email apps will not correctly translate to screen. Les Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/tgbias%40ptd.net Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] The infernal question mark
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Allowing the mailing list to send and receive messages in HTML would solve that problem. It may create other problems of which I am not aware, however.--TB -Original Message- From: marxism-bounces+tgbias=ptd@lists.econ.utah.edu [mailto:marxism-bounces+tgbias=ptd@lists.econ.utah.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Flewers Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:19 PM To: tgb...@ptd.net Subject: Re: [Marxism] The infernal question mark == Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I have noticed that when my posts appear here, it is not just curly quote marks and em and en dashes that become question marks: anything beyond a very basic character set gets mutilated. For example, see how these three Polish, Serbo-Croat and Hungarian names come out: Łódź, Čošić, Ütő. Can this be changed at all? Paul F Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/tgbias%40ptd.net Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] The infernal question mark
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Les Schaffer writes: > On 1/4/11 4:18 PM, Paul Flewers wrote: >> I have noticed that when my posts appear here, it is not just curly >> quote marks and em and en dashes that become question marks: anything >> beyond a very basic character set gets mutilated. For example, see how >> these three Polish, Serbo-Croat and Hungarian names come out: Łódź, >> Čošić, Ütő. Can this be changed at all? > > they render fine here in Thunderbird ... is handled fine in the archives > as well: > > http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/marxism/2011-January/073621.html > > but your posts are coming in UTF-8 character set (encoded in base64) and > i think some people's email apps will not correctly translate to screen. They all look fine in Gnus, but then Gnus just knows what you mean to say ahead of time. ;) -- In Solidarity, Billy O'Connor Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] The infernal question mark
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Lou: set yourself up a gmail account and then use that for SMTP outbound in Thunderbird. works like a charm. skype me for details. or find out who is the SMTP server for the ISP you are using incidentally, your posts look find IN Thunderbird. any good Jewish delis down there ;-) Les Louis Proyect wrote: > My apologies to everybody. While I am in Miami Beach, I am forced to use > the Panix Webmail. For some reason, Thunderbird prevents me from posting > outgoing messages even though I can receive them okay. Webmail obviously > screws up my formatting and I am not sure how to get around this problem. > I will try pasting the NYT articles, etc. into Word first, and then from > there into Webmail to see if that works. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
