Re: [matplotlib-devel] Numeric and numarray

2006-12-13 Thread Travis Oliphant
Eric Firing wrote:
> John,
>
> What is your present thinking with respect to timetable and strategy for 
> dropping Numeric and numarray support?
>   
With respect to this question it should be remembered that the array 
interface will still allow those using numarray/Numeric to use 
matplotlib.   It's just that they will have to also install NumPy.

At the NIPS conference last week, the author of CVXOPT was there and it 
was interesting to see that he had no problems using matplotlib for the 
array object they came up with for CVXOPT because of the array interface.

So, it seem to me that encouraging people to download NumPy in order to 
use matplotlib is actually a good thing even if they don't convert all 
their legacy code immediately.

I suppose the only group left out will be those who refuse to update 
their Numeric installation to use Numeric > 23.8

-Travis


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Re: [matplotlib-devel] Numeric and numarray

2006-12-13 Thread Christopher Barker
Eric Firing wrote:
> What is your present thinking with respect to timetable and strategy for 
> dropping Numeric and numarray support?

+1 for dropping them in future versions.

As John so eloquently pointed out recently, MPL is faced with a great 
challenge in supporting so many python versions, backends, etc. This in 
one place we can simplify.

In theory, MPL can use numpy internally, and still get data passed to it 
from Numeric and numarray with the array protocol, so you wouldn't be 
completely abandoning users stuck with the older packages.

-Chris




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[matplotlib-devel] Numeric and numarray

2006-12-13 Thread Eric Firing
John,

What is your present thinking with respect to timetable and strategy for 
dropping Numeric and numarray support?

Thanks.

Eric

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