Re: archival storage of CDs
Why do you want to use CDs to store images. The maximum size of a CD is 700 MB, only good for a few digital images. We use hard drives only. (Forget about DVDs,they are not good for long-term storage). -Original Message- From: Jansonius, Remko (Vizcaya) [mailto:remko.janson...@vizcayamuseum.org] Sent: 2005-12-30 (星期五) 8:18 To: mcn-l@mcn.edu Cc: Subject:archival storage of CDs After a year on the job I have collected loads of digital images - scanned, shot, donated. It's time to put the master files in storage. Is there a general consensus on what materials to use? What type of CDs? Is there a specific pro or con to use CD envelops (compacter) or jewel boxes (more rigid)? Does anyone have good experiences with specific CD drawers/boxes/cabinets? Is there anything I am overlooking here? Any and all comments are appreciated! ... and a good new year to all! Remko Jansonius Collections and Archives Manager Vizcaya Museum Gardens 3251 South Miami Avenue Miami, FL 33129 t: 305-860-8433 f: 305-250-9117 www.vizcayamuseum.org miamidade.gov Delivering Excellence Every Day Miami-Dade County is a public entity, subject to Chapter 119 of the Florida Statutes concerning public records. E-mail messages and their attachments are covered under such laws and thus subject to disclosure. All e-mail sent to and received at this address is captured by Miami-Dade County servers and kept as a public record. --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: h...@u.library.arizona.edu To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: rlancefi...@mail.wesleyan.edu To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com
Re: archival storage of CDs
For anyone looking for archival storage of image (or any files) on CDs or DVDs, consider this: while manufacturers make various claims for longevity of the media, there is no assurance that the equipment will be available to read that particular disc in 25 or 50 years (or even 5 or 10). Remember 8 track tapes? Remember 8 floppies or even 5.25 floppies? Keep in mind, also, that there's a strong likelihood that you're going to have to migrate to a new standard file format down the road. Where is it easier to manage your files--on a big network drive or on hundreds (thousands?) of CDs, DVDs, and other removable media? A stable, secure network, good file management, regular tape backups, decent metadata, and error checking software will keep them as safe as we can hope for at this early stage in the digital world. You can store CDs and DVDs in stable, climate controlled storage, in acid-free sleeves or non-reactive plastic cases, but none of this will make them an archival backup. Archival means permanent, or as near as we can get to it. It's pretty easy to define what makes a paper document archival and store it in such a way that it'll be usable for the next century (at least). We're in the early stages of defining archival for digital files: keep your eye on what's going on in the digital preservation world and follow in the big guys' footsteps as much as you can. [The former archivist will now step off her soapbox!] Deb Wythe Deborah Wythe Brooklyn Museum Head, Digital Collections and Services 200 Eastern Parkway Brooklyn, NY 11238 tel: 718 501 6311 fax: 718 501 6125 email: deborahwy...@hotmail.com Original Message Follows From: les...@copyrightlaws.com Reply-To: mcn-l@mcn.edu To: mcn-l@mcn.edu Subject: RE: archival storage of CDs Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:16:00 Why aren't dvd's good for storage? Lesley -Original Message- From: Han, Yan h...@u.library.arizona.edu Subj: RE: archival storage of CDs Date: Mon Jan 2, 2006 7:32 pm Size: 1K To: mcn-l@mcn.edu Why do you want to use CDs to store images. The maximum size of a CD is 700 MB, only good for a few digital images. We use hard drives only. (Forget about DVDs,they are not good for long-term storage). -Original Message- From: Jansonius, Remko (Vizcaya) [mailto:remko.janson...@vizcayamuseum.org] Sent: 2005-12-30 ( ÇÆÚÎå) 8:18 To: mcn-l@mcn.edu Cc: Subject:archival storage of CDs After a year on the job I have collected loads of digital images - scanned, shot, donated. It's time to put the master files in storage. Is there a general consensus on what materials to use? What type of CDs? Is there a specific pro or con to use CD envelops (compacter) or jewel boxes (more rigid)? Does anyone have good experiences with specific CD drawers/boxes/cabinets? Is there anything I am overlooking here? Any and all comments are appreciated! ... and a good new year to all! Remko Jansonius Collections and Archives Manager Vizcaya Museum Gardens 3251 South Miami Avenue Miami, FL 33129 t: 305-860-8433 f: 305-250-9117 www.vizcayamuseum.org miamidade.gov Delivering Excellence Every Day Miami-Dade County is a public entity, subject to Chapter 119 of the Florida Statutes concerning public records. E-mail messages and their attachments are covered under such laws and thus subject to disclosure. All e-mail sent to and received at this address is captured by Miami-Dade County servers and kept as a public record. --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: h...@u.library.arizona.edu To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: les...@copyrightlaws.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com Lesley Ellen Harris (from my Treo) --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: deborahwy...@hotmail.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: rlancefi...@mail.wesleyan.edu To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com
Re: archival storage of CDs
Well said, Deborah. I think that the current argument against DVD storage right now is that the current format of DVDs is about to hit its first bump on the road to obsolesence. Rumor mill says that the makers of digital media storage formats are about to release a media type to replace the current DVD with one with even higher storage capacity. I'm not certain if this format is just an even more compressed type of DVD disk or if it's a completely different duck. Anyone know for sure? But while I don't believe that the DVD will become obsolete within 3-5 years, I suspect that we may have problems in 10 years. Personally, I'm more in favor of hard drive and tape backups, since those seem to have more staying power thus far than other forms of storage. Perian Sully Collection Database and Records Administrator Judah L. Magnes Museum 2911 Russell Street Berkeley, CA 94705 - Original Message - From: Deborah Wythe deborahwy...@hotmail.com To: mcn-l@mcn.edu Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 4:40 PM Subject: RE: archival storage of CDs For anyone looking for archival storage of image (or any files) on CDs or DVDs, consider this: while manufacturers make various claims for longevity of the media, there is no assurance that the equipment will be available to read that particular disc in 25 or 50 years (or even 5 or 10). Remember 8 track tapes? Remember 8 floppies or even 5.25 floppies? Keep in mind, also, that there's a strong likelihood that you're going to have to migrate to a new standard file format down the road. Where is it easier to manage your files--on a big network drive or on hundreds (thousands?) of CDs, DVDs, and other removable media? A stable, secure network, good file management, regular tape backups, decent metadata, and error checking software will keep them as safe as we can hope for at this early stage in the digital world. You can store CDs and DVDs in stable, climate controlled storage, in acid-free sleeves or non-reactive plastic cases, but none of this will make them an archival backup. Archival means permanent, or as near as we can get to it. It's pretty easy to define what makes a paper document archival and store it in such a way that it'll be usable for the next century (at least). We're in the early stages of defining archival for digital files: keep your eye on what's going on in the digital preservation world and follow in the big guys' footsteps as much as you can. [The former archivist will now step off her soapbox!] Deb Wythe Deborah Wythe Brooklyn Museum Head, Digital Collections and Services 200 Eastern Parkway Brooklyn, NY 11238 tel: 718 501 6311 fax: 718 501 6125 email: deborahwy...@hotmail.com Original Message Follows From: les...@copyrightlaws.com Reply-To: mcn-l@mcn.edu To: mcn-l@mcn.edu Subject: RE: archival storage of CDs Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:16:00 Why aren't dvd's good for storage? Lesley -Original Message- From: Han, Yan h...@u.library.arizona.edu Subj: RE: archival storage of CDs Date: Mon Jan 2, 2006 7:32 pm Size: 1K To: mcn-l@mcn.edu Why do you want to use CDs to store images. The maximum size of a CD is 700 MB, only good for a few digital images. We use hard drives only. (Forget about DVDs,they are not good for long-term storage). -Original Message- From: Jansonius, Remko (Vizcaya) [mailto:remko.janson...@vizcayamuseum.org] Sent: 2005-12-30 ( ÇÆÚÎå) 8:18 To: mcn-l@mcn.edu Cc: Subject: archival storage of CDs After a year on the job I have collected loads of digital images - scanned, shot, donated. It's time to put the master files in storage. Is there a general consensus on what materials to use? What type of CDs? Is there a specific pro or con to use CD envelops (compacter) or jewel boxes (more rigid)? Does anyone have good experiences with specific CD drawers/boxes/cabinets? Is there anything I am overlooking here? Any and all comments are appreciated! ... and a good new year to all! Remko Jansonius Collections and Archives Manager Vizcaya Museum Gardens 3251 South Miami Avenue Miami, FL 33129 t: 305-860-8433 f: 305-250-9117 www.vizcayamuseum.org miamidade.gov Delivering Excellence Every Day Miami-Dade County is a public entity, subject to Chapter 119 of the Florida Statutes concerning public records. E-mail messages and their attachments are covered under such laws and thus subject to disclosure. All e-mail sent to and received at this address is captured by Miami-Dade County servers and kept as a public record. --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: h...@u.library.arizona.edu To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: les...@copyrightlaws.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com Lesley Ellen Harris (from my
