[MCN-L] Digital recorder for teacher/classroom use

[Jason Bondy]

Just wanted to post an update:  We ended up getting a Zoom H1 recorder and
so far it is working out nicely.  The built-in mics are very sensitive and
pick up the kids well.   Also, we got the accessory kit with it that
includes a neat little tabletop stand for the recorder as well as a padded
case to keep it in for travelling.

Thanks again for all your suggestions and ideas.  

Jason
___
Jason Bondy
Exhibit AV/IT Systems
Oklahoma History Center
800 Nazih Zuhdi Dr.
Oklahoma City, OK  73105
405-522-0783 ? Office
405-522-5402 ? Fax
http://www.okhistory.org

Follow us on Twitter!? http://twitter.com/okhistory




-Original Message-
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
Jason Bondy
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 3:06 PM
To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
Subject: [MCN-L] Digital recorder for teacher/classroom use

Hello all,

I am hoping someone out there will have some suggestions for this challenge.

We have a series of education "trunks" that go out to schools around the
state with props and curriculum for schools to build a lesson around.  One
of the ideas we have is for an old-time radio trunk.  One of the features we
would like to have is to allow the instructor, with script and props, to
record students creating a radio show.  They would then transfer the
recording to a computer to make a CD of the program.
 
The questions are:  Has anyone done anything like this before?  Does anyone
have any ideas for digital recording devices that would be easy to use by
teachers, but also durable enough to be out on the road in a variety of
classroom situations?  Any ideas or suggestions are welcome.

Thank you in advance for your input!

Jason

 

 

 

Jason Bondy

Exhibit AV/IT Systems

Oklahoma History Center

800 Nazih Zuhdi Dr.

Oklahoma City, OK  73105

405-522-0783 - Office

405-522-5402 - Fax

 <http://www.okhistory.org/> http://www.okhistory.org

 

Follow us on Twitter!   <http://twitter.com/okhistory>
http://twitter.com/okhistory

 

 

 

[MCN-L] Digital recorder for teacher/classroom use

[Jason Bondy]

Wow, thanks for all the suggestions.  You all have definitely given us some
good directions to start looking.  What a wonderful resource we have in this
mail list community!

Jason



Jason Bondy
Exhibit AV/IT Systems
Oklahoma History Center
800 Nazih Zuhdi Dr.
Oklahoma City, OK  73105
405-522-0783 ? Office
405-522-5402 ? Fax
http://www.okhistory.org

Follow us on Twitter!? http://twitter.com/okhistory





-Original Message-
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Ari
Davidow
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 6:48 PM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Digital recorder for teacher/classroom use

The TechSoup bundle is for two older Flip cameras. When we looked into it,
we realized that we wanted something more recent.

The Flip that we did get is =great=. Easily records two hours of video,
totally simple to use, saves in a reasonably high-res mp4 format. I recently
took it on a trip where on one night I recorded a live band, and at other
times got several hours of my mother reminiscing. Sweet.

For audio recorders, I echo those who note that recent iPod Touches, along
with most smart phones, come with audio and video recording ability. That's
a reasonable place to start. There are a host of excellent audio devices
used by oral historians, etc. A great site to read reviews is Jay Allison's
"transom.org." He covers everything from apps for iPhones to wonderful
devices like the recent Marantz audio recorders, Edirols, and the like.

ari

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 5:38 PM,  wrote:

>
>  I've never worked with the myself -- but I've head GREAT things about the
> ease and usability of the Flip Video Cameras.   and Tech Soup is
> offering a two-for bundle, -- two cameras for $175 (normally they're 
> about
> $150 each).
>
> See:
> http://home.techsoup.org/stock/pages/category.aspx?category=FlipVideo
>
>
>
>
> - David -
> David Lewis, Curator
> Aurora Regional Fire Museum
> www.AuroraRegionalFireMuseum.org
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: James Keeline 
> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv 
> Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2011 12:05 pm
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Digital recorder for teacher/classroom use
>
>
> Last July my wife and I organized and hosted a successful convention 
> to
>
> celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Tom Swift series of books about 
> a young
>
> inventor.  The first five stories were published in 1910 and since 
> that year
>
> there have been 105 books in five series.  The first three of these 
> series were
>
> produced by the Stratemeyer Syndicate, also responsible for Nancy Drew 
> and the
>
> Hardy Boys among many others.
>
>
>
> As part of this convention we produced two live performances based on 
> a book
>
> from each of the first two series.  Tom Swift and His Airship was from 
> 1910 and
>
> public domain.  Tom Swift and the Visitor From Planet X was from 1961 
> and in the
>
>
>
> public domain because the owner failed to renew the copyright.  The 
> shows had
>
> voice actors from San Diego's WriteOutLoud (http://writeoutloudsd.com) 
> and the
>
> script, direction, and sound effects were accomplished by the talented 
> and
>
> resourceful Scott Paulson (http://ScottPaulson.info).
>
>
>
>
>
> Scott engages in performances like these to provide sound effects for 
> stage
>
> performances like the recent It's a Wonderful Life at the Cygnet 
> Theatre in Old
>
> Town San Diego for the Christmas season.  In this version, the 
> performance is a
>
> 1940s-era radio show with a live audience, voice actors who step up to 
> the
>
> vintage-looking microphones, and Scott as sound effects artist on the 
> side of
>
> the stage.
>
>
>
> He has also provided sound effects and movies for silent films through 
> his Teeny
>
>
>
> Tiny Pit Orchestra.  Recently these have been shown at New Village 
> Arts in
>
> Carlsbad in the northern part of San Diego county.  In these, as with 
> many of
>
> his performances, he gets the audience involved by passing out noise 
> makers and
>
> then gives direction to how and when to use them in the program.  Some 
> of these
>
> are cheap items which can be given away and others are vintage sound 
> machines
>
> that he collects at the end of the performance.  In our Tom Swift and 
> His
>
> Airship show, bubble wrap was used for gunshots and cellophane for 
> crackling
>
> fire.  As usual, he also had machines that made ratchet sounds and 
> other devices
>
>
>
> for use in the program.
>
>
>
> Here are a few clips to gi

[MCN-L] Digital recorder for teacher/classroom use

[Ari Davidow]

The TechSoup bundle is for two older Flip cameras. When we looked into it,
we realized that we wanted something more recent.

The Flip that we did get is =great=. Easily records two hours of video,
totally simple to use, saves in a reasonably high-res mp4 format. I recently
took it on a trip where on one night I recorded a live band, and at other
times got several hours of my mother reminiscing. Sweet.

For audio recorders, I echo those who note that recent iPod Touches, along
with most smart phones, come with audio and video recording ability. That's
a reasonable place to start. There are a host of excellent audio devices
used by oral historians, etc. A great site to read reviews is Jay Allison's
"transom.org." He covers everything from apps for iPhones to wonderful
devices like the recent Marantz audio recorders, Edirols, and the like.

ari

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 5:38 PM,  wrote:

>
>  I've never worked with the myself -- but I've head GREAT things about the
> ease and usability of the Flip Video Cameras.   and Tech Soup is
> offering a two-for bundle, -- two cameras for $175 (normally they're about
> $150 each).
>
> See:
> http://home.techsoup.org/stock/pages/category.aspx?category=FlipVideo
>
>
>
>
> - David -
> David Lewis, Curator
> Aurora Regional Fire Museum
> www.AuroraRegionalFireMuseum.org
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: James Keeline 
> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv 
> Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2011 12:05 pm
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Digital recorder for teacher/classroom use
>
>
> Last July my wife and I organized and hosted a successful convention to
>
> celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Tom Swift series of books about a
> young
>
> inventor.  The first five stories were published in 1910 and since that
> year
>
> there have been 105 books in five series.  The first three of these series
> were
>
> produced by the Stratemeyer Syndicate, also responsible for Nancy Drew and
> the
>
> Hardy Boys among many others.
>
>
>
> As part of this convention we produced two live performances based on a
> book
>
> from each of the first two series.  Tom Swift and His Airship was from 1910
> and
>
> public domain.  Tom Swift and the Visitor From Planet X was from 1961 and
> in the
>
>
>
> public domain because the owner failed to renew the copyright.  The shows
> had
>
> voice actors from San Diego's WriteOutLoud (http://writeoutloudsd.com) and
> the
>
> script, direction, and sound effects were accomplished by the talented and
>
> resourceful Scott Paulson (http://ScottPaulson.info).
>
>
>
>
>
> Scott engages in performances like these to provide sound effects for stage
>
> performances like the recent It's a Wonderful Life at the Cygnet Theatre in
> Old
>
> Town San Diego for the Christmas season.  In this version, the performance
> is a
>
> 1940s-era radio show with a live audience, voice actors who step up to the
>
> vintage-looking microphones, and Scott as sound effects artist on the side
> of
>
> the stage.
>
>
>
> He has also provided sound effects and movies for silent films through his
> Teeny
>
>
>
> Tiny Pit Orchestra.  Recently these have been shown at New Village Arts in
>
> Carlsbad in the northern part of San Diego county.  In these, as with many
> of
>
> his performances, he gets the audience involved by passing out noise makers
> and
>
> then gives direction to how and when to use them in the program.  Some of
> these
>
> are cheap items which can be given away and others are vintage sound
> machines
>
> that he collects at the end of the performance.  In our Tom Swift and His
>
> Airship show, bubble wrap was used for gunshots and cellophane for
> crackling
>
> fire.  As usual, he also had machines that made ratchet sounds and other
> devices
>
>
>
> for use in the program.
>
>
>
> Here are a few clips to give an idea of how this worked:
>
>
>
> 2008 clip about Scott discussing sound effects devices
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szyht9jc8PE
>
>
>
> Tom Swift and His Airship performance at UCSD library
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M88EuLHIfWg
>
>
>
> The performances of Airship and Visitor from Planet X were highlights of
> our
>
> convention.
>
>
>
> Looking at your project, it appears that you initially asked for an audio
>
> recorder to gather the sounds and build your performance.  Of course, many
>
> phones, including the iPhone, come with voice recorder apps which are
> fairly
>
> effective and save files in .WAV format.  This is useful because it is not
>
&

[MCN-L] Digital recorder for teacher/classroom use

[Janice]

I usually don't purchase service plans on equipment, but I bought my daughter a 
small video cam for Christmas at Office Depot and for $10 their extended 
service plan covers 'accidental handling' for two years. They assured me that 
included damage from dropping it (which she is famous). You might check out 
their replacement policy.

Janice Craddock
Information Technology Manager
Amon Carter Museum of American Art
3501 Camp Bowie Blvd., Ft. Worth, TX 76107
t. 817.989.5152  f.817.665.4333
http://www.cartermuseum.org 

-Original Message-
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Rissanen
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 5:47 PM
To: 'Museum Computer Network Listserv'
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Digital recorder for teacher/classroom use

At a session at WMA last year we were introduced to the Zoom H-1 Handheld
Digital recorder.  It was extremely easy to use, produced great recordings,
and is relatively inexpensive.  What I don't know is how well it would hold
up to classroom use as you describe.

Carolyn

Carolyn Rissanen
Registrar, Natural Sciences
Oakland Museum of California
510-238-3885
www.museumca.org
 
 
 

-Original Message-
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
Jason Bondy
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:06 PM
To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
Subject: [MCN-L] Digital recorder for teacher/classroom use

Hello all,

 

I am hoping someone out there will have some suggestions for this challenge.


 

We have a series of education "trunks" that go out to schools around the
state with props and curriculum for schools to build a lesson around.  One
of the ideas we have is for an old-time radio trunk.  One of the features we
would like to have is to allow the instructor, with script and props, to
record students creating a radio show.  They would then transfer the
recording to a computer to make a CD of the program.

 

The questions are:  Has anyone done anything like this before?  Does anyone
have any ideas for digital recording devices that would be easy to use by
teachers, but also durable enough to be out on the road in a variety of
classroom situations?  Any ideas or suggestions are welcome.

 

Thank you in advance for your input!

 

Jason

 

 

 

Jason Bondy

Exhibit AV/IT Systems

Oklahoma History Center

800 Nazih Zuhdi Dr.

Oklahoma City, OK  73105

405-522-0783 - Office

405-522-5402 - Fax

 <http://www.okhistory.org/> http://www.okhistory.org

 

Follow us on Twitter!   <http://twitter.com/okhistory>
http://twitter.com/okhistory

 

 

 


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[MCN-L] Digital recorder for teacher/classroom use

[dlewisa...@aol.com]

 I've never worked with the myself -- but I've head GREAT things about the ease 
and usability of the Flip Video Cameras.   and Tech Soup is offering a 
two-for bundle, -- two cameras for $175 (normally they're about $150 each).  

See:
http://home.techsoup.org/stock/pages/category.aspx?category=FlipVideo


 

- David - 
David Lewis, Curator
Aurora Regional Fire Museum
www.AuroraRegionalFireMuseum.org
 

 

-Original Message-
From: James Keeline 
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv 
Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2011 12:05 pm
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Digital recorder for teacher/classroom use


Last July my wife and I organized and hosted a successful convention to 

celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Tom Swift series of books about a young 

inventor.  The first five stories were published in 1910 and since that year 

there have been 105 books in five series.  The first three of these series were 

produced by the Stratemeyer Syndicate, also responsible for Nancy Drew and the 

Hardy Boys among many others.



As part of this convention we produced two live performances based on a book 

from each of the first two series.  Tom Swift and His Airship was from 1910 and 

public domain.  Tom Swift and the Visitor From Planet X was from 1961 and in 
the 



public domain because the owner failed to renew the copyright.  The shows had 

voice actors from San Diego's WriteOutLoud (http://writeoutloudsd.com) and the 

script, direction, and sound effects were accomplished by the talented and 

resourceful Scott Paulson (http://ScottPaulson.info).



 

Scott engages in performances like these to provide sound effects for stage 

performances like the recent It's a Wonderful Life at the Cygnet Theatre in Old 

Town San Diego for the Christmas season.  In this version, the performance is a 

1940s-era radio show with a live audience, voice actors who step up to the 

vintage-looking microphones, and Scott as sound effects artist on the side of 

the stage.



He has also provided sound effects and movies for silent films through his 
Teeny 



Tiny Pit Orchestra.  Recently these have been shown at New Village Arts in 

Carlsbad in the northern part of San Diego county.  In these, as with many of 

his performances, he gets the audience involved by passing out noise makers and 

then gives direction to how and when to use them in the program.  Some of these 

are cheap items which can be given away and others are vintage sound machines 

that he collects at the end of the performance.  In our Tom Swift and His 

Airship show, bubble wrap was used for gunshots and cellophane for crackling 

fire.  As usual, he also had machines that made ratchet sounds and other 
devices 



for use in the program.



Here are a few clips to give an idea of how this worked:



2008 clip about Scott discussing sound effects devices

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szyht9jc8PE



Tom Swift and His Airship performance at UCSD library

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M88EuLHIfWg



The performances of Airship and Visitor from Planet X were highlights of our 

convention.



Looking at your project, it appears that you initially asked for an audio 

recorder to gather the sounds and build your performance.  Of course, many 

phones, including the iPhone, come with voice recorder apps which are fairly 

effective and save files in .WAV format.  This is useful because it is not 

compressed at this stage and easier to edit with free tools like Audacity.



Another device I own which could work in this fashion is a voice recorder.  
Mine 



is an RCA model number RP5030A.  It was purchased at Fry's Electronics some 

years ago so I don't know what the current offerings are.  It also stores audio 

in .WAV format.  For my purposes, one of the key features is that the USB plug 

that connects to the computer.  It shows up as a USB mass storage device on my 

computer (Mac) so I can simply copy the files over and then use them in an 

editing program like iMovie or Audacity.  Probably Garage Band could be used on 

the Mac as well if that is available.  





Some voice recorders have a limited frequency response so it may be well to 
look 



into this.  Looking at the offerings of Frys today on Voice Recorders I see one 

in the $30 range that saves files as .MP3 (a compressed format which loses some 

data) but it does use USB so the key would be whether it shows up as a mass 

storage device or requires special software.



In the community which is interested in sounds for model railroad layouts, they 

generally recommend using a video camera for audio recordings.  The quality is 

often sufficiently good and the devices are more generally available than 

dedicated audio recorders.  The additional advantage is that you get to see the 

source of the sound and this can help with identifying clips.  It could also be 

a benefit to the participants and their families to see them actually 
performing

[MCN-L] Digital recorder for teacher/classroom use

[James Keeline]

Last July my wife and I organized and hosted a successful convention to 
celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Tom Swift series of books about a young 
inventor.  The first five stories were published in 1910 and since that year 
there have been 105 books in five series.  The first three of these series were 
produced by the Stratemeyer Syndicate, also responsible for Nancy Drew and the 
Hardy Boys among many others.

As part of this convention we produced two live performances based on a book 
from each of the first two series.  Tom Swift and His Airship was from 1910 and 
public domain.  Tom Swift and the Visitor From Planet X was from 1961 and in 
the 
public domain because the owner failed to renew the copyright.  The shows had 
voice actors from San Diego's WriteOutLoud (http://writeoutloudsd.com) and the 
script, direction, and sound effects were accomplished by the talented and 
resourceful Scott Paulson (http://ScottPaulson.info).

 
Scott engages in performances like these to provide sound effects for stage 
performances like the recent It's a Wonderful Life at the Cygnet Theatre in Old 
Town San Diego for the Christmas season.  In this version, the performance is a 
1940s-era radio show with a live audience, voice actors who step up to the 
vintage-looking microphones, and Scott as sound effects artist on the side of 
the stage.

He has also provided sound effects and movies for silent films through his 
Teeny 
Tiny Pit Orchestra.  Recently these have been shown at New Village Arts in 
Carlsbad in the northern part of San Diego county.  In these, as with many of 
his performances, he gets the audience involved by passing out noise makers and 
then gives direction to how and when to use them in the program.  Some of these 
are cheap items which can be given away and others are vintage sound machines 
that he collects at the end of the performance.  In our Tom Swift and His 
Airship show, bubble wrap was used for gunshots and cellophane for crackling 
fire.  As usual, he also had machines that made ratchet sounds and other 
devices 
for use in the program.

Here are a few clips to give an idea of how this worked:

2008 clip about Scott discussing sound effects devices
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szyht9jc8PE

Tom Swift and His Airship performance at UCSD library
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M88EuLHIfWg

The performances of Airship and Visitor from Planet X were highlights of our 
convention.

Looking at your project, it appears that you initially asked for an audio 
recorder to gather the sounds and build your performance.  Of course, many 
phones, including the iPhone, come with voice recorder apps which are fairly 
effective and save files in .WAV format.  This is useful because it is not 
compressed at this stage and easier to edit with free tools like Audacity.

Another device I own which could work in this fashion is a voice recorder.  
Mine 
is an RCA model number RP5030A.  It was purchased at Fry's Electronics some 
years ago so I don't know what the current offerings are.  It also stores audio 
in .WAV format.  For my purposes, one of the key features is that the USB plug 
that connects to the computer.  It shows up as a USB mass storage device on my 
computer (Mac) so I can simply copy the files over and then use them in an 
editing program like iMovie or Audacity.  Probably Garage Band could be used on 
the Mac as well if that is available.  


Some voice recorders have a limited frequency response so it may be well to 
look 
into this.  Looking at the offerings of Frys today on Voice Recorders I see one 
in the $30 range that saves files as .MP3 (a compressed format which loses some 
data) but it does use USB so the key would be whether it shows up as a mass 
storage device or requires special software.

In the community which is interested in sounds for model railroad layouts, they 
generally recommend using a video camera for audio recordings.  The quality is 
often sufficiently good and the devices are more generally available than 
dedicated audio recorders.  The additional advantage is that you get to see the 
source of the sound and this can help with identifying clips.  It could also be 
a benefit to the participants and their families to see them actually 
performing 
the sound effects.

For this reason, I have found the Sanyo Xacti line of cameras (~$200) to be 
good 
ones.  I have the CG-9 model.  This one records standard definition video but 
there are HiDef models.  The video is stored on an SD-HC card and the card can 
be inserted into a card reader on the computer or the USB cord can be used for 
transfer.  The .MP4 video files are compatible with iMovie (important for my 
workflow) as well as other programs out there.

One of the special features of Wal-E talks about special effects and many old 
devices are shown in action.

James Keeline

100th Anniversary Tom Swift Convention (July 16-18, San Diego)
http://TomSwiftEnterprises.com  http://www.CafePress.com/TS100

[MCN-L] Digital recorder for teacher/classroom use

[Carolyn Rissanen]

At a session at WMA last year we were introduced to the Zoom H-1 Handheld
Digital recorder.  It was extremely easy to use, produced great recordings,
and is relatively inexpensive.  What I don't know is how well it would hold
up to classroom use as you describe.

Carolyn

Carolyn Rissanen
Registrar, Natural Sciences
Oakland Museum of California
510-238-3885
www.museumca.org
 
 
 

-Original Message-
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
Jason Bondy
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:06 PM
To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
Subject: [MCN-L] Digital recorder for teacher/classroom use

Hello all,

 

I am hoping someone out there will have some suggestions for this challenge.


 

We have a series of education "trunks" that go out to schools around the
state with props and curriculum for schools to build a lesson around.  One
of the ideas we have is for an old-time radio trunk.  One of the features we
would like to have is to allow the instructor, with script and props, to
record students creating a radio show.  They would then transfer the
recording to a computer to make a CD of the program.

 

The questions are:  Has anyone done anything like this before?  Does anyone
have any ideas for digital recording devices that would be easy to use by
teachers, but also durable enough to be out on the road in a variety of
classroom situations?  Any ideas or suggestions are welcome.

 

Thank you in advance for your input!

 

Jason

 

 

 

Jason Bondy

Exhibit AV/IT Systems

Oklahoma History Center

800 Nazih Zuhdi Dr.

Oklahoma City, OK  73105

405-522-0783 - Office

405-522-5402 - Fax

 <http://www.okhistory.org/> http://www.okhistory.org

 

Follow us on Twitter!   <http://twitter.com/okhistory>
http://twitter.com/okhistory

 

 

 

[MCN-L] Digital recorder for teacher/classroom use

[Jason Bondy]

Hello all,

 

I am hoping someone out there will have some suggestions for this challenge.


 

We have a series of education "trunks" that go out to schools around the
state with props and curriculum for schools to build a lesson around.  One
of the ideas we have is for an old-time radio trunk.  One of the features we
would like to have is to allow the instructor, with script and props, to
record students creating a radio show.  They would then transfer the
recording to a computer to make a CD of the program.

 

The questions are:  Has anyone done anything like this before?  Does anyone
have any ideas for digital recording devices that would be easy to use by
teachers, but also durable enough to be out on the road in a variety of
classroom situations?  Any ideas or suggestions are welcome.

 

Thank you in advance for your input!

 

Jason

 

 

 

Jason Bondy

Exhibit AV/IT Systems

Oklahoma History Center

800 Nazih Zuhdi Dr.

Oklahoma City, OK  73105

405-522-0783 - Office

405-522-5402 - Fax

  http://www.okhistory.org

 

Follow us on Twitter!   
http://twitter.com/okhistory