[MCN-L] Facebook is just sloppy

2010-06-23 Thread Chad Petrovay
I may be alone in this, think you're off the mark. 

The only proof provided is that the thumbnailer doesn't work perfectly 
(sidebar, very few thumbnailers do). And Facebook has adequate reasons for 
requiring a profile picture to be the same on both the profile and the feed (I 
believe in the business world they call that branding). Is Facebook at fault 
because MoMA's profile pic thumbnail crops the logo slightly or is that MoMA's 
fault?

You managed to make a blanket statement about their company, based upon one 
instance. One case does not a trend make.

Facebook started as profiles for individuals. After MySpace had problems with 
commercial entities masking themselves as individuals (ie: characters from 
movies, tv shows, etc), Facebook opened up the platform to organizations, 
products, and commercial entities. Facebook did not create a platform for such 
entities, they made modifications to the platform to allow such entities to 
exist. Should we be complaining about the platform that we all benefit from (at 
no cost for access to, or use of said platform), or should we be thankful that 
we're no longer relegated to the use of Groups. (A fun way to start, but lacked 
the finesse of a Profile/Page).

I guess my only comment would be, if you're going to bite the hand that feeds 
you, you'd better have a good reason for doing so.


Chad Petrovay ?| ?Collections Database Administrator
MIM-Musical Instrument Museum | 4725 E. Mayo Boulevard ?| Phoenix, AZ 85050 
480.478.6000 main ?| ?480.478.6058 direct | 480.471.8690 fax ?| www.themim.org

Blog: www.petrovay.com/tmsblog


-Original Message-
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of 
Hanan Cohen
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:23 AM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: [MCN-L] Facebook is just sloppy

Hi,
 
I wrote about my experience/frustration while working with Facebook and
my conclusion about the past and future of the company.
 
http://info.org.il/english/facebook_is_just_sloppy.html
 
Would love to get your comments.
 
---
Hanan Cohen
Webmaster
Bloomfield Science Museum Jerusalem
www.mada.org.il http://www.mada.org.il/en/  - Facebook
http://www.facebook.com/pages/-/127569645760  - Twitter
http://twitter.com/madajerusalem  - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/user/madajerusalem 
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[MCN-L] Facebook is just sloppy

2010-06-23 Thread TAMSEN SCHWARTZMAN
I agree with you Chad. Facebook has been an amazing platform for us and there 
are lots of ways to work-around some of their quirks.

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-Original Message-
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Chad 
Petrovay
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 7:31 PM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Facebook is just sloppy

I may be alone in this, think you're off the mark. 

The only proof provided is that the thumbnailer doesn't work perfectly 
(sidebar, very few thumbnailers do). And Facebook has adequate reasons for 
requiring a profile picture to be the same on both the profile and the feed (I 
believe in the business world they call that branding). Is Facebook at fault 
because MoMA's profile pic thumbnail crops the logo slightly or is that MoMA's 
fault?

You managed to make a blanket statement about their company, based upon one 
instance. One case does not a trend make.

Facebook started as profiles for individuals. After MySpace had problems with 
commercial entities masking themselves as individuals (ie: characters from 
movies, tv shows, etc), Facebook opened up the platform to organizations, 
products, and commercial entities. Facebook did not create a platform for such 
entities, they made modifications to the platform to allow such entities to 
exist. Should we be complaining about the platform that we all benefit from (at 
no cost for access to, or use of said platform), or should we be thankful that 
we're no longer relegated to the use of Groups. (A fun way to start, but lacked 
the finesse of a Profile/Page).

I guess my only comment would be, if you're going to bite the hand that feeds 
you, you'd better have a good reason for doing so.


Chad Petrovay ?| ?Collections Database Administrator
MIM-Musical Instrument Museum | 4725 E. Mayo Boulevard ?| Phoenix, AZ 85050 
480.478.6000 main ?| ?480.478.6058 direct | 480.471.8690 fax ?| www.themim.org

Blog: www.petrovay.com/tmsblog


-Original Message-
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of 
Hanan Cohen
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:23 AM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: [MCN-L] Facebook is just sloppy

Hi,
 
I wrote about my experience/frustration while working with Facebook and
my conclusion about the past and future of the company.
 
http://info.org.il/english/facebook_is_just_sloppy.html
 
Would love to get your comments.
 
---
Hanan Cohen
Webmaster
Bloomfield Science Museum Jerusalem
www.mada.org.il http://www.mada.org.il/en/  - Facebook
http://www.facebook.com/pages/-/127569645760  - Twitter
http://twitter.com/madajerusalem  - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/user/madajerusalem 
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[MCN-L] Facebook is just sloppy

2010-06-22 Thread Hanan Cohen
Hi,
 
I wrote about my experience/frustration while working with Facebook and
my conclusion about the past and future of the company.
 
http://info.org.il/english/facebook_is_just_sloppy.html
 
Would love to get your comments.
 
---
Hanan Cohen
Webmaster
Bloomfield Science Museum Jerusalem
www.mada.org.il http://www.mada.org.il/en/  - Facebook
http://www.facebook.com/pages/-/127569645760  - Twitter
http://twitter.com/madajerusalem  - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/user/madajerusalem 



[MCN-L] Facebook is just sloppy

2010-06-22 Thread Dee McConville
Hanan, I agree with your posting.   Well done!

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-Original Message-
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
Hanan Cohen
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 7:23 AM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: [MCN-L] Facebook is just sloppy

Hi,
 
I wrote about my experience/frustration while working with Facebook and
my conclusion about the past and future of the company.
 
http://info.org.il/english/facebook_is_just_sloppy.html
 
Would love to get your comments.
 
---
Hanan Cohen
Webmaster
Bloomfield Science Museum Jerusalem
www.mada.org.il http://www.mada.org.il/en/  - Facebook
http://www.facebook.com/pages/-/127569645760  - Twitter
http://twitter.com/madajerusalem  - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/user/madajerusalem 
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[MCN-L] Facebook is just sloppy

2010-06-22 Thread Andrew Fox
Absolutely on the mark. While FB does some basic functions OK, it's very
sloppy and clunky in many areas. For example, try to import your blog's RSS
feed and see what happens?

Andrew Fox
Webmaster
Fine Arts Museums of San Francisco
de Young Museum
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San Francisco, CA 94118
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415.750.3550 fax

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On 6/22/10 4:23 AM, Hanan Cohen hanan at mada.org.il wrote:

 Hi,
  
 I wrote about my experience/frustration while working with Facebook and
 my conclusion about the past and future of the company.
  
 http://info.org.il/english/facebook_is_just_sloppy.html
  
 Would love to get your comments.
  
 ---
 Hanan Cohen
 Webmaster
 Bloomfield Science Museum Jerusalem
 www.mada.org.il http://www.mada.org.il/en/  - Facebook
 http://www.facebook.com/pages/-/127569645760  - Twitter
 http://twitter.com/madajerusalem  - YouTube
 http://www.youtube.com/user/madajerusalem
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