Re: MD: magnetic damage

2000-04-19 Thread Ralph Smeets


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 Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't an MD encoded optically?  Maybe I'm just
 mistaken,  but there better be a damn good reason for having a Class 1 Laser
 product sticker on my deck...
 

Yes and No.

MD is magneto-optical. The material of the disc is a special material that has
a special carecteristic. The atoms can be alligned into a certain direction when 
the temporature is higher than 160 degrees Celcius.

In order to heat the material a laser is used. In order to change the direction
of
the material, a magnet is used.

Atoms reflect more or less light depending on the direction they have. Thus you
can
read the direction (thus the information) using a laser.

Cheers,
Ralph - changing directions without magnetics or laser.

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Re: MD: MZ-R3: lost TOC due to power break [Looking for Help -eaw]

2000-04-19 Thread Magic


Hello Ellen and all on the MD-L list,

From: Eric Woudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ellen Van Praet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 9:35 PM
Subject: MD: MZ-R3: lost TOC due to power break [Looking for Help -eaw]


 Yes, your recording is salvageable, but you will need a Sony deck to
 help you do it. You need to do a TOC cloning operation (see
 http://www.minidisc.org/cloning_procedure.html), which can only be
 done with Sony decks, not portables (well, actually it can be done
 with some Sharp portables).

 If you don't have this equipment, perhaps someone nearby in Belgium or
 Europe may be able to help you.

 I'm forwarding your mail to the MD mailing list in case someone can offer
 to help you out.

 Rick

I will gladly help out - if you are unable to recover the material yourself
then you can just put the discs in the post to me - I suggest as the
material is important you use recorded delivery. If you would like to do
this then E-Mail me and I'll send my postal address to you. I will make a
copy of what is on the disc so that if it does not make it back to you I can
run off another copy - that way the information will not be lost.

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MD: MiniDisc in the Comic Section

2000-04-19 Thread James Jarvie


Hi list.

The minidisc is the subject of a cartoon in the comic
section of today's NY Daily News.  The strip is called
"Zits" and it revolves around a teenage boy and his
world. 

In the strip, his father is holding a minidisc and
says "What's this? Some kind of foreign currency?" 
The boy responds "It's one of my minidiscs".

In the second frame: Dad: "Mini-what?"  Son:
"Mini-discs! They hold an hour's worth of music and
can be rerecorded a million times with no loss of
sound quality"

Third frame: Dad: "Wow" as they are both looking at
the disc.

Final Frame: Dad: "Not much room for the album cover
art though".  Son: "Album what?"

Pretty cool.  Too bad the son didn't repsond "over an
hour's worth of music".  Also, I am much closer to the
age of the father in this comic than I am to the son. 
  

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Re: MD: MiniDisc in the Comic Section

2000-04-19 Thread icham



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...or a whole bunch of 78's (what did he say??)

Irv Chamberlain

James Jarvie wrote:

 Hi list.

 The minidisc is the subject of a cartoon in the comic
 section of today's NY Daily News.  The strip is called
 "Zits" and it revolves around a teenage boy and his
 world.

 In the strip, his father is holding a minidisc and
 says "What's this? Some kind of foreign currency?"
 The boy responds "It's one of my minidiscs".

 In the second frame: Dad: "Mini-what?"  Son:
 "Mini-discs! They hold an hour's worth of music and
 can be rerecorded a million times with no loss of
 sound quality"

 Third frame: Dad: "Wow" as they are both looking at
 the disc.

 Final Frame: Dad: "Not much room for the album cover
 art though".  Son: "Album what?"

 Pretty cool.  Too bad the son didn't repsond "over an
 hour's worth of music".  Also, I am much closer to the
 age of the father in this comic than I am to the son.


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Re: MD: Minidisc blank sound quality 'myth'

2000-04-19 Thread las




  I know from experience that Sony ES mds sound far superior to TDK MJs,
  ON A SONY JA20ES for example.


I find it interesting that you should make that statement because Sony ES mini
disc blanks are the same discs as "regular" Sony blanks.  The only difference
is the color of the packaging.  Do you feel that Sony ES's sound better then
other Sony blanks?  If that's the case then it is the psycho acoustic effect
that makes you think that they sound better.

Also in your note you make no mention of error correction.  Unless a disc has
such a high number of errors that it approaches the limits of error correction
circuitry, I don't see how an audible difference could be heard, all other
things being equal.
Regards,
LAS

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RE: MD: MiniDisc in my car -- possible?

2000-04-19 Thread Simon Mackay


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We've all discovered that FM modulators are no good.  So I'll reverse the
question:  is there an affordable option to play MDs from my portable
(R37) in my car, which has a factory CD player only?  (I have no CD
changer controls, BTW.)

J. C. R. Davis ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Come on car-audio manufacturers! Wake up! There is room for an affordable
car MD player unit WITHOUT TUNER here for these cars!

These units should be car MD players that have their own amplifiers (or can
connect to an outboard amplifier system) and have NO radio tuner. They
should be designed to mount under the dashboard or in an auxiliary equipment
bay in the dashboard and work without any need for a particular head unit
rather than just being a slave "MD drive" to a head unit.

Because there is no tuner in the unit, there is room for extra abilities
like designing in an MD changer; large display suited to MD needs; and
"add-on" facilities for the existing car stereo. This means that the
existing OEM car stereo (which is often under-powered) can benefit from more
power and access to extra speakers via a fader control. Also OEM stereos can
benefit from features like cellular-telephone mute (the unit mutes or
fades-down the volume on the OEM car stereo if the mobile phone rings or you
place a call on the mobile phone) or a graphic equialiserwhich can
improve the sound somewhat.

This issue that was raised regarding MDs in a CD-equipped car is an issue
also shared by people whose cars are equipped with older car stereos that
are regarded as classics; like the Eurovox units made for the Australian
market between 1980 and 1989; the Nakamichi cassette car stereos; the early
Becker Mexico units installed in European cars between the late 70s and the
mid 80s; any of the Blaupunkt "high-end" units or those classic Concords.

This concept is a tried and tested concept which was successful in the form
of those 8-track cartridge and cassette players that often had to be
installed under a car's dashboard or in its console for that car to he
considered classy during the 60s and 70s. It was also tried with success
during the late 80s with the car CD players that were in vogue during that
time.

With regards,

Simon Mackay


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Re: MD: Better sounding digital cable

2000-04-19 Thread Stainless Steel Rat


|  Yes, your CDs can sound much better. With this Interlink Datalink 100
|  audio cable from Monster Cable (an industry leader), your CDs can
|  sound crisper and have greater dynamic range.

Compared to analog interconnects.
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Re: MD: Better sounding digital cable

2000-04-19 Thread Matt Wall



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o come on i thought you knew that by speeding up light by 5 or 6 times
that we achieve much better audio quality :P  doesn't that have something to
do with the flux capacitor too?


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Date: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 12:34 PM
Subject: MD: Better sounding digital cable



Lest one start to think that the myth of "better" digital cables is
passe', I found this ad copy on a page touting a Monster Cable coax
(for digital audio use):

 Yes, your CDs can sound much better. With this Interlink Datalink 100
 audio cable from Monster Cable (an industry leader), your CDs can
 sound crisper and have greater dynamic range. The cable is coaxial,
 shielded from outside interference and made with high-quality
 materials that will transfer the best sound and withstand heavy
 use. Everything you need for a complete hookup is included. Cable
 length: 2 meters (6.56 feet).

 Product Features

 High-performance digital coaxial cable for connecting a CD player
 to a receiver using a low-loss, SPDIF-style cable.

 Everything you need for a complete hookup is included.

 Double shielded to prevent interference.

 High velocity of propagation for greater sound clarity and
 dynamic range.

 Structured matrix dielectric for low stored-energy and better
 detection.

 Cable length: 2 meters (6.56 feet).

I like the part where the *speed* of the bits improves the sound!

See:

http://www.mercata.com/cgi-bin/mercata/mercata/v2/pages/details.jsp?BV_Sess
ionID=1786545938.956163799BV_EngineID=jalhicggligbemfcfkmcgeckg.0OID=9134

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Re: MD: magnetic damage

2000-04-19 Thread Dan Frakes


"Brett Tyre" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So really, an MD is not a small compact disc, it is a shrunken 
version of the ancient and obscure magnoptical computer disks...

MO (magneto-optical) disks are alive and well. They are widely used for 
backup and archiving solutions because they are still the most reliable 
medium out there (debatable with CDR, but MO disks are a lot more 
flexible). I use a Fujitsu SCSI MO drive that I bought new last year. 
There are now FireWire versions of the 1.3GB and 640MB MO drives.

Less popular than a Zip? Yes. Ancient and obscure? Hardly ;-)
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MD: Cheap semi-pro interconnects

2000-04-19 Thread PrinceGaz


Hi guys,

I think we all know spending say 40UKP/meter on an interconnect is
probably madness but I have been tempted recently to buy 5UKP connects
for my CD-Amp, and MD-Amp to replace those provided with the kit.

After all Richer Sounds suggest a small but still aignificant portion
of your budget should go on cables (including speaker), and they are
normally cheap and don't bull$hit you.  I can't remember how much they
say but I think it is about 10% of your total hifi expenditure.  That
would mean my spending about 100UKP on my fairly modest hifi setup on
cables!  Thats crazy (though admitedlly soon after getting my MZ-R3
I spent about 25UKP on a genuine Sony optical cable, /me is mad!)

Is it really worth getting these cheap (but supposedly higher quality)
interconnects than those provided with the units, or is it just another
scam?

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Re: MD: Cheap semi-pro interconnects

2000-04-19 Thread Richard Wright



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At 19:47 19/04/00 +0100, you wrote:

SNIP

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Re: MD: sb live! value + hoontech = ?

2000-04-19 Thread Enno Lübbers


Hi!

I just switched from my TerraTec DMX to a Soundblaster Live 1024 Player (at least 
that's what it's called back here in Germany) and a hoontech digital bracket, and I 
have to say, this card is awesome for - well for anything. I'm not sure whether the 
analog outputs are as high-quality as the ones the DMX features, but the drivers (and 
possibilities for digital out) _definitely_ are! No problem to get the optimal digital 
out level (just put the wave and master sliders to 100%, and there you go). I payed 
about DM 135,- for the SB Live! and about 80,- for the bracket. And I can't think of a 
better combination für recording MP3s to minidisc (yes, I know, that's not really the 
best quality) or editing live recordings made with minidisc or ... well, you get the 
idea.

Ah, yes, I use a Sony MDS-PC2 connected to my PC.

So, Creative, that's a job well done!

CU,
  Enno

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MD: Aiwa AMF 80 microphone

2000-04-19 Thread Ivica Petrovic


Hi,

I'd like to know which kind of microphone is the one supplied with the Aiwa
AMF 80? I get it as a gift, and I don't have any specifications about it
 is it Omnidirectional, Unidirectional, what is the sensitivity?).
Thanks for a help.
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RE: MD: magnetic damage

2000-04-19 Thread Black_Angel


I was thinking about a damage in the magnetical orientation and not in the
inner structure of the MD, but this is also a possibility.

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| Teorically it's impossible to damage a MD only with a magnetic field.

No, it is impossible to _erase_ an MD with a magnetic field.  But a
sufficiently powerful EM field could warp or crack the metallic layer,
rendering the disc unusable.
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RE: MD: magnetic damage

2000-04-19 Thread Alan Dowds


Herro,

They may be obscure and ancient, but MO discs are brilliant. I bought a
230MB Fujitsu M2512A drive six years ago for a printing business I ran. The
drive is still going strong, the discs seem indestructible and it gives good
performance, even through my old ISA SCSI card.

It certainly beats Zip, especially for reliability.

And the discs look exactly like a MD on steroids - splendid.

Cya

Alan

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So really, an MD is not a small compact disc, it is a shrunken version of
the ancient and obscure magnoptical computer disks...
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 On Tue Apr 18 at 07:36:29 PM, Brett Tyre wrote:

  Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't an MD encoded optically?  Maybe I'm
just

 The recordables are magneto-optical.

 sean

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Re: MD: magnetic damage

2000-04-19 Thread Sean Harding


On Tue Apr 18 at 08:07:22 PM, Brett Tyre wrote:

 So really, an MD is not a small compact disc, it is a shrunken version of
 the ancient and obscure magnoptical computer disks...

Optical is older than MO...If you're more concerned with where else the
technology has been used than how it works in its current implementation,
then perhaps MD isn't for you. But those of us who just care how well it
works have no problem with it.

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Re: MD: magnetic damage

2000-04-19 Thread Brett Tyre


Hey, I'm impressed with MD.  It works great, and its much more convienient
than CD-R.
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 On Tue Apr 18 at 08:07:22 PM, Brett Tyre wrote:

  So really, an MD is not a small compact disc, it is a shrunken version
of
  the ancient and obscure magnoptical computer disks...

 Optical is older than MO...If you're more concerned with where else the
 technology has been used than how it works in its current implementation,
 then perhaps MD isn't for you. But those of us who just care how well it
 works have no problem with it.

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