Re: MD: Napster article
las wrote: Larry, I completely agree with most of what you wrote about valuable professions not being paid what they're actually worth. Dan, if I gave the impression that artists should not be paid for their work, that is not what I meant to say. But do artists deserve the payments that they receive while our children are getting inferior education's because we will pay Metalash!t millions of dollars a year and pay a great teacher $30 thousand if they are lucky? It's not like that, really. Anyone who spends more on Metallica CD's/T-shirts/videos/concert-tickets/whatever than on hir's kids' education, needs to get hir priorities straight, IMHO. But lots of people spend a little bit of money on their CDs, hence they make millions. As far as sports go, I have no interest in sports at all and do not think that these people deserve to be paid very much for "playing". But you're not paying their salary, so it's not really up to you, is it? They get paid a huge amount of money, yes. But the people that pay them still make a profit after paying that huge salary. That's how the system works. Most athletes do not have to work that hard to accomplish what they do. They are simply using God given gifts that come naturally to them. I feel much differently about artists of any kind. I think you'll find that most artists do indeed work very hard to accomplish what they do. If they limit their work to just the matches they play every now and again, they'll be off the big paylist very soon. Like everything else, you have to have the God given skills to be an artist. But being an artist, is much harder. Requires much more effort, time and work to accomplish what they did. I doubt they're much different. My nephew was a video major. One day we were talking about something and somehow he mentioned how he felt that "Shidler's List" was the best movie he ever saw. I'm don't know it is # one, but it would be hard to argue that it was brilliant. Not just Spielberg, but Neeson and many other people. You don't get results like that without, in addition to the talents God gave you, really feeling and working at what you are doing. Can we really call the Spice girls "Artists"??? I won't waste an MD on them. Maybe if they wanted to some of their other talents.never mind. Maybe "performers" is a better term. I wouldn't waste an MD on them, either... But millions of teenage girls like their music and badger their parents into buying it. And, surprise, surprise... That's exactly the goal the Spice Girls' creators had in mind. They did their job well, and got rich. Remember, I might not like some or all of the same music you like. But that doesn't mean the artists you like don't deserve to get paid a cent, or vice versa. One last thing. I chose the term "God Given", as a generic term. I'm not a some kind of religious fanatic that goes around mentioning God in every sentence. Perhaps nature's given gifts. Well, thank god for that! ;-) ,xtG .tsooJ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Napster article
On Thu, 07 Sep 2000 01:34:22 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Larry, I completely agree with most of what you wrote about valuable professions not being paid what they're actually worth. Dan, if I gave the impression that artists should not be paid for their work, that is not what I meant to say. But do artists deserve the payments that they receive If people are prepared to pay for something the artist have produced or created, then emphatically - yes. while our children are getting inferior education's because we will pay Metalash!t millions of dollars a year We don't, directly. We choose, or choose not to buy their product. As to what *they* get paid, is it any of our damn business? If we want their product - then we can expect to pay the price that they are prepared to sell it for. and pay a great teacher $30 thousand if they are lucky? I understand your indignance - but people (in gneneral) *choose* to become teachers. They could equally choose to become lawyers, stockbrokers, artists, musicians, etc...etc..., assuming they had the requisite attribbutes and the tenacity and required work ethic. If you personally feel so outraged, I would imagine you are perfectly within your rights to employ a private teacher for your offspring, at whatever inflated salary you think they deserve. Once again, if somebody like an artist or musician decides to sell their work, it's their perogative as to how much they charge. We don't have any "rights" to their work, whether or not we think the price for it is undeserved or not. If they get rich on the proceeds, whilst other (in some peoples' opinions) workers in worse paid industries eek an existance - it's all choice. As far as sports go, I have no interest in sports at all and do not think that these people deserve to be paid very much for "playing". Fine - your opinion, and your entitled to it. I have no problem with them getting as much as they can. In the majority of cases, they won't have anything like the same bargaining power once they're in the late thirties and onwards - unless they have other talents, and manage to be proactive with their career. Most athletes do not have to work that hard to accomplish what they do. What on *earth* do you base this on? Obviously this can well depend on the sport, but in most cases that I've experienced, natural talent, aptitude and / or genetic predisposition can be of paramount importance, but doesn't necessarily mean that there's no effort involved. They are simply using God given gifts that come naturally to them. I feel much differently about artists of any kind. Personally I don't see the distinction - I think it's quite fallacious. Like everything else, you have to have the God given skills to be an artist. But being an artist, is much harder. On what grounds? With what metric? I think you are making some gross generalisations here. Requires much more effort, time and work to accomplish what they did. As somebody who's always been involved in physical activity, I find this sort of thing is quite insulting. How you can try and make out that artistic endeavours require more effort than physical / sporting pursuits, seems inexcusably ignorant. My nephew was a video major. One day we were talking about something and somehow he mentioned how he felt that "Shidler's List" was the best movie he ever saw. I'm don't know it is # one, but it would be hard to argue that it was brilliant. Not just Spielberg, but Neeson and many other people. You don't get results like that without, in addition to the talents God gave you, really feeling and working at what you are doing. And do you think the worlds best sprinters get where they are by simple use of their talents, and no hard work? World class soccer players? Weight lifters? Snooker players? Cyclists? You are demeaning entire communities who are involved in "playing" sports, or competing to suggest it doesn't require the same degree of work as those that choose artistic pursuits. Can we really call the Spice girls "Artists"??? I won't waste an MD on them. Maybe if they wanted to some of their other talents.never mind. Performers is what I'd class them. And I don't resent them a thing. If people are prepared to pay they price that the spicies market their wares as, then all strength to them. They won't be able to get away with the same sort of thing when they're in their forties. One last thing. I chose the term "God Given", as a generic term. I'm not a some kind of religious fanatic that goes around mentioning God in every sentence. Perhaps nature's given gifts. Many athletes and sports people do have talents, and aptitudes, but I can't think of many that don't have to work damned hard to achieve what they do. To suggest that art requires a greater degree of effort and work ethic, to me suggests that this is simply an argument from somebody that suits their
Re: MD: Napster article
las wrote: Can we really call the Spice girls "Artists"??? I won't waste an MD on them. Hell, I'd give 'em an MD to spend the night with me. -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Napster article
las wrote: Dan, if I gave the impression that artists should not be paid for their work, that is not what I meant to say. But do artists deserve the payments that they receive Do dentists deserve being paid to hurt people? There are a lot more starving artists out there than there are starving dentists. -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Napster article
Do dentists deserve being paid to hurt people? There are a lot more starving artists out there than there are starving dentists. The above statement has got to be the one of the stupidest that I have ever heard. I'm very disappointed that an intelligent person like you would make such a statement. First of all, if you are still being "hurt" by your dentist, either you haven't been to the dentist in a long time or you should find a new one. Second, Do you realize how many people come to me in severe pain each week and leave with the pain gone?? Third, dentists have one of the highest suicide rates of any profession. The stress is of the job is that high. Fourth, there are many dentists having financial problems. Fifth, what does it take to be an "artist"? The reason that there are so many starving artists is because there are so many people who consider themselves "artists"!!! What qualifications does it take to be an artist How many years do you have to go to school to qualify to be an "artist"? What examinations and how many does it take to be an artist? How do you pay for the cost of all of that school and setting up a practice? You can buy one of the best guitars you can find and a great amp to go along with it and still not approach $10,000. Finally, if every "artist" alive today dropped off of the face of the earth, what would be the result?? If there were no more dentists, it wouldn't take long before people were actually dying from diseases of the mouth!!! And that doesn't begin to mention all of the pain and suffering. Have you ever had a tooth ache? The only reason it doesn't happen much now, is because of dentists. Get an abcessed maxillary (upper) molar and let it keep swelling. In many cases the infection would spread to the brain!!! Good bye!! Suppose everyone in the group Metallash!t were to die tomorrow? How many people would die as a result. The problem you have is that you are equating "artist" with necessity. I could have been a starving artist. I was in a band for years while I was going to school. If we had what it took and or luck, then maybe I'd be a rich over paid rock star today instead of a dentist. Art is very important. Don't get me wrong. But it is not essential for life. This world would be a terrible place if it were not for music, theater, paintings, graphics etc. But it isn't oxygen. If we had to we could survive. The most important point is that, there are no specific qualifications to qualify as an artist. Eliminate all of the people that think they are artists, but the public doesn't and suddenly the number of "starving artists" begins to drop rapidly!!! Art is something that in addition innate talents, you have to "feel". Making money at is is something that other people have to feel is worth paying for. If you are fortunate to make money at art that's great. But art is not like becoming a plumber. It does not offer any guaranties of an income. Lets take the relatively small number artists that are very successful. We have to be talking about billions and billions of dollars a year in total income (from painters, directors, actors, singers, musicians, etc.!! Now lets eliminate all of the people that call themselves "artists", but really do not have talent by the standards of our society. If you take what's left and divided the billions and billions of dollars between all of them. There would be NO starving artists!! Most importantly, you'd better find yourself a new dentist. Larry - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 07 Sep 2000 11:20:45 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fifth, what does it take to be an "artist"? The reason that there are so many starving artists is because there are so many people who consider themselves "artists"!!! What qualifications does it take to be an artist How many years do you have to go to school to qualify to be an "artist"? What examinations and how many does it take to be an artist? How do you pay for the cost of all of that school and setting up a practice? You can buy one of the best guitars you can find and a great amp to go along with it and still not approach $10,000. Finally, if every "artist" alive today dropped off of the face of the earth, what would be the result?? Do you mean if everybody with artistic creativity, or those that express themselves artisticly, suddenly disappeared? Or all artistic content and / or stimulus suddenly disappeared? I suspect the lack of creative culture and stimulus may have reasonably serious psychological affects on the rest of the world. If there were no more dentists, it wouldn't take long before people were actually dying from diseases of the mouth!!! Perhaps given how society and modern life has developed. But go back a few hundred years, and there were no dentists - and probably far less dietary requirements, almost certainly some degree of poorer quality of life, or endurance / seriousness of certain conditions. Art (in various forms, or guises) has been a pretty much fundamental aspect of human evolvement. Even caveman drew pictures on cave walls. Without this sort of outlet in human nature, who's to say what the effects on the evolution of the humman species would have been. Suppose everyone in the group Metallash!t were to die tomorrow? How many people would die as a result. Perhaps a relatively small number of obsessed fans! ;-) The problem you have is that you are equating "artist" with necessity. To a certain degree, I believe the artistic nature in humans, has been rather key to the development and evolution of us as a species - I suppose you could extrapolate that to some degree of necessity. I could have been a starving artist. I was in a band for years while I was going to school. If we had what it took and or luck, then maybe I'd be a rich over paid rock star today instead of a dentist. Perhaps you wouldn't whine so much about overpayed groups, then ;-) (Just havin' a bit of a joke with ya!) Art is very important. Don't get me wrong. But it is not essential for life. Hmm..., I'm not sure we would have evolved to our present state, without the traits and expression that "art" tends to get expressed in. This world would be a terrible place if it were not for music, theater, paintings, graphics etc. But it isn't oxygen. Neither is dentistry, to be fair. A few hundred years back, humans still existed without quality dental care. True enough, perhaps they had considerably less need, and perhaps some died and suffered - but humans still survived. If we had to we could survive. That could apply to a whole range of things, and perhaps we would evolve - but both hypothetical occurences would have reasonable impact on human development, in my opinion. But art is not like becoming a plumber. It does not offer any guaranties of an income. Neither does being a plumber. You still have to attract buyers of your service, somehow. I will concede there may be a certain degree of higher likelihood of success as a plumber, though. Lets take the relatively small number artists that are very successful. We have to be talking about billions and billions of dollars a year in total income (from painters, directors, actors, singers, musicians, etc.!! Now lets eliminate all of the people that call themselves "artists", but really do not have talent by the standards of our society. Is that a call that the "masses" should be able to make? Taking out resentment, or jealousy, the argument appears to be that you don't think some people deserve the money they get - an entirely subjective argument. If you take what's left and divided the billions and billions of dollars between all of them. There would be NO starving artists!! And get rid of greed in human nature. There are always gonna be the "haves" and the "have nots". And probably the "haves" are not gonna want to give up what they've got, and endeavour to continuely increase what they "have". And perhaps there are always gonna be the "have nots" that believe they (or some other worthy group) should have what the "haves" have (if you pardon the aliteration!) - doesn't necessarily mean this is anything but a subjective argument, though. And consider for a second the psychological (and I mean the fundamental) reasons that provoke such thoughts. Most importantly, you'd better find yourself a new dentist. Perhaps this is why you're not a mega successful rock star! ;-) There went a gleaming
MD: Dentists V Artists (Was Napster)
Well, I haven't been to a dentist for 9 years and am surviving whereas if I hadn't heard any music for 9 years I'm not so sure I would have. This discussion is pointless eh? Quality ~chilled~ Drum and Bass --- http://www.mp3.com/advance - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: $15 OFF any $25 ORDER (expiration : 09/16/00)
I just find out a brand new coupons, but it is only good until September 16 so I will not publish it on my coupon page... If you want to put it on the Minidisc Community Page, I think it will be really appreciate... It's another $15 OFF $25 ORDER... from Incredible DVD : http://www.buyitonline.com/coupons/coupons.asp?couponid=2223CJN Expiration date : September 16 For USA Residents Only Credit Card Payment Only Hope this will be great for you all... http://www.buyitonline.com/kheopsminidisc (for more information about our products or International Orders : http://www.kheopsminidisc.com) Best Regards, Pierre Forest. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Dentists V Artists (Was Napster)
On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:57:59 +0100 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I haven't been to a dentist for 9 years and am surviving whereas if I hadn't heard any music for 9 years I'm not so sure I would have. Quite :-) This discussion is pointless eh? Oh yes. Emphatically. And then some... Neil ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If the guy hasn't seen a dentist in nine years, I doubt your suggestion of finding a new one isn't going to mean much. I'm guessing oral hygeine is quite low on his priority list. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: new computer
Hey all, I'm about to buy a new computer and in the opions of this list, wanted to know what I absolutely must have w/r/t my MD. I have a Sharp MS722. I am planning on a CD burner of course... My question specifically is: what kind of ports do I need to be sure of having? Digital? USBs? etc Anything you might suggest is appreciated. Also, if you happen to know of a good and inexpensive place to build a system, I'd appreciate it. Thanks, Charlie - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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USB port is good but not absolutely necessary Personally, I have a old 333 MHZ with a optical sound card from Aureal (bought for only $50, I don't remember where sorry...) and with an optical cable, I record all the songs I want from internet directly on my MS-722 (I use Win Amp to play music files). The sound is good and it's really easy... My friend uses its 900 MHZ and it's Optical Sound Card inside its USB port and it seems to be very great too ! Hope this will help... Anyway, the speed of the computer is not really important to record music on MD recorder. What is the most important thing is to have a fast internet connection to download songs... Regards, Peter. Pierre Forest - Kheops Minidisc Owner http://www.kheopsminidisc.com http://www.buyitonline.com/kheopsminidisc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Redell Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:03 PM To: MD Subject: MD: new computer Hey all, I'm about to buy a new computer and in the opions of this list, wanted to know what I absolutely must have w/r/t my MD. I have a Sharp MS722. I am planning on a CD burner of course... My question specifically is: what kind of ports do I need to be sure of having? Digital? USBs? etc Anything you might suggest is appreciated. Also, if you happen to know of a good and inexpensive place to build a system, I'd appreciate it. Thanks, Charlie - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Titling input in katakana on US Sony MZ-R70?
I know the Japanese version of all the Sony MD recorders supports titling in the phonetic katakana character set. However, the US versions seem to only support display of katakana characters, not input. Is there any kind of hack I can do to my US MZ-R70 to allow katakana input? I listen to a lot of Japanese music, and would like to input the titles in something other than Roman characters. -- Brought to you by the letters E and Q and the number 0. "A baloo is a bear." Debian GNU/Linux maintainer of Gimp and GTK+ -- http://www.debian.org/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Digital recordings and track marks...
Stories wrote, | I would argue that it's the receiving device that doesn't accept "new | track starts now" data. All the information needed is present in the | S/Pdif signal "validity Bit / CD-Subcode" data area. That may depend on the unit generating the S/PDIF as well. | My CD player outputs track number, track time index numbers within | the S/Pdif signal. On the first frame of a track, does it output a track start marker? | The Signal coming out of my JE-520 contain track number information, | though no track time (Interestingly, track numbers only go to 9, then it | marks them with letters...) That's probably hexadecimal, Matt. What happens at track sixteen? Does it come out as "10"? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Napster article
las wrote: Do dentists deserve being paid to hurt people? There are a lot more starving artists out there than there are starving dentists. The above statement has got to be the one of the stupidest that I have ever heard. I'm very disappointed that an intelligent person like you would make such a statement. Some how I knew that would get your attention. I think we are taking up too much "bandwidth" with this discussion. The bottom line is dentists sell their services and expect to be compensated. They may or may not enjoy their work. Artists, do escentially the same. Some make it big, some don't. There are a lot fewer that make the big bucks than the ones that do. Then there is the cost of producing the product. Someone has to pay for that. There is the cost of the bus and transportation for the band, sound equipment etc. The band members have to eat and be paid. It isn't all fun and games like you imply. -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Do you mean if everybody with artistic creativity, or those that express themselves artisticly, suddenly disappeared? Or all artistic content and / or stimulus suddenly disappeared? No! certainly not all artistic content. When you get down to things that basic, art is like food (at least that's my opinion). I suspect the lack of creative culture and stimulus may have reasonably serious psychological affects on the rest of the world. No doubt. I fully agree. But I'm not suggesting that. I'm talking about situations were it is no longer about the art, but about the money. If there were no more dentists, it wouldn't take long before people were actually dying from diseases of the mouth!!! Perhaps given how society and modern life has developed. But go back a few hundred years, and there were no dentists - and probably far less dietary requirements, almost certainly some degree of poorer quality of life, or endurance / seriousness of certain conditions. People did die from dental disease in ancient times. There are situations that exist today where people have died as a result of failing to seek treatment. This is especially true of people with certain heart disorders. People die today from bacterial endocarditis. An infection in the heart cause by bacteria that enter the blood stream from you "periodontium" (gums). Art (in various forms, or guises) has been a pretty much fundamental aspect of human evolvement. Even caveman drew pictures on cave walls. Without this sort of outlet in human nature, who's to say what the effects on the evolution of the humman species would have been. Again, no disagreement. Suppose everyone in the group Metallash!t were to die tomorrow? How many people would die as a result. Perhaps a relatively small number of obsessed fans! ;-) Yeah, but the fans that they are suing (can you believe that!!! a group actually suing the very people that made them what they are and rich too) would be much better off with them dead. All the stress of a law suit would be lifted. The problem you have is that you are equating "artist" with necessity. To a certain degree, I believe the artistic nature in humans, has been rather key to the development and evolution of us as a species - I suppose you could extrapolate that to some degree of necessity. I could have been a starving artist. I was in a band for years while I was going to school. If we had what it took and or luck, then maybe I'd be a rich over paid rock star today instead of a dentist. Perhaps you wouldn't whine so much about overpayed groups, then ;-) (Just havin' a bit of a joke with ya!) I'm sure that I wouldn't be whining at all. I'd be laughing all the way to the bank. But that doesn't mean that I would be right. Art is very important. Don't get me wrong. But it is not essential for life. Hmm..., I'm not sure we would have evolved to our present state, without the traits and expression that "art" tends to get expressed in. There is no doubt that things would be a lot different. I'd say a lack of art would have affected our development adversely. But we could have survived. The Nazis sat around listening to the classics while they sent millions of innocent people to the gas chambers. Art certainly didn't make them better people. This world would be a terrible place if it were not for music, theater, paintings, graphics etc. But it isn't oxygen. Neither is dentistry, to be fair. A few hundred years back, humans still existed without quality dental care. True enough, perhaps they had considerably less need, and perhaps some died and suffered - but humans still survived. With our present diet I'm not sure that as many people would have survived if they ate the crap we ate to day. Also, I don't think a life expectancy of 20, partially caused by among other medical needs, lack of dental care, is much of a life. If we had to we could survive. That could apply to a whole range of things, and perhaps we would evolve - but both hypothetical occurences would have reasonable impact on human development, in my opinion. But art is not like becoming a plumber. It does not offer any guaranties of an income. Neither does being a plumber. You still have to attract buyers of your service, somehow. I will concede there may be a certain degree of higher likelihood of success as a plumber, though. Have you ever tried to get a plumber when you need one. Good plumbers are in demand and have a million times better chance of finding work then an artist. Lets take the relatively small number artists that are very successful. We have to be talking about billions and billions of dollars a year in total income (from painters, directors, actors, singers, musicians, etc.!! Now lets eliminate all of the people that call themselves "artists", but really do not have talent by the standards of our society. Is
Re: MD: Dentists V Artists (Was Napster)
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === "Gordon, Richard" wrote: Well, I haven't been to a dentist for 9 years and am surviving whereas if I hadn't heard any music for 9 years I'm not so sure I would have. This discussion is pointless eh? It will catch up with you sooner or later. When that pain hits, you will be willing to give up every artist for one decent dentist who can get you out of pain (LOL). Quality ~chilled~ Drum and Bass --- http://www.mp3.com/advance - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Oh yes. Emphatically. And then some... Neil Then why did you waste so much time responding to it, instead of just ignoring it? Larry - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Napster article
"J. Coon" wrote: OK. I'm going to try and end this discussion now. I have said all along that there should be a royalty fee paid to download "quality" MP3s from the net. I stand by that position. I don't think that they average person downloading stuff is thinking to him/herself, "Hey I'm stealing this stuff and getting way with it. Isn't that great?" We have a system in place for recording off of TV and radio. Now we have a new technology and we need a way to incorporate it into the system. Regards (and still friends I hope), Larry - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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"J. Coon" wrote: No problem here, some of my best friends are dentists, my nephew just got started in his practice, and I'll probably have to go to one next week. Bit down on a potato chip wrong and it went between the gum and my front tooth. Been sore and swollen ever since. Lots of brushing and hot washes seem to be helping a bit. If it isn't better when I get back from a music festival this weekend, I'll have to make an appointment. damn. Glad you cleared that up. Last thing we need on this list is an anti-dentite. ;) Shawn 1stUp.com - Free the Web Get your free Internet access at http://www.1stUp.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Sony md repair cost, 20 mds for $26
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Thanks for the note Mike, I'm forwarding it to the MD mailing list. Please let me know how your repair works out, and whether you'd recommend the place. Also, could you give me their mailing address and any further contact info you have? -Thanks, Rick "m!ke mcgranahan" writes: thought you might be interested--i don't know if anyone's brought these points up yet: 1) my mzr-50 stopped recording recently, and today (sept 6, 2000) i took it into a sony repair center (the one in burbank, ca). they charge a flat rate for any type of md repair: US$102. they apparently take the whole thing apart and inspect all of it. it takes about 10 working days for the repair. 2) at www.netmarker.com , an online discount club retailer, they have a special where you can become a 45 day trial member, for a fee of one dollar. they then give you a $10 credit. if this is applied to their memorex minidisc 20 pack for $28.49, plus $8 for tax, shipping and handling, you can get 20 minidiscs for about $26.50. here's my receipt: Date of Order: 08/07/2000 Item(s) Purchased: MEMX MD7420PK (20) 74 Minute Mini-Discs Qty:1.0 Unit Cost: $28.49 Shipping: $5.95 Tax:$2.14 Total: $36.58 Total Amount of Order: $36.58 Payment Type Card / Check # Expiration Amount -- -- -- CPN NT AWD$10.00 MC $26.58 - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
