RE: MD: Cyndi Lauper MD Recording-Multiple Sources, Multiple Questions
Please contact me personally about this, I have some questions and information for you... Regards, Peter. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ***Peter Forest*** www.kheopsminidisc.com www.kheopsinternational.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rodney Peterson Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 8:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MD: Cyndi Lauper MD Recording-Multiple Sources, Multiple Questions I just made a Cyndi Lauper compilation MD using various digital and analog sources mixed on the MD. The material I copied from is as follows: Compact Discs Cyndi Lauper-She's So Unusual Cyndi Lauper-True Colors Cyndi Lauper-The Best Remixes (Import) DVD's Cyndi Lauper-Twelve Deadly Cyns..And Then Some (copy protected) (5.1 Dolby Digital and PCM Stereo) (selectable) All Time Party Classics Volume One (Promotional DVD Music Videos For DJ's) (not copy protected-contains Girls Just Want To Have Fun and about 50 other popular music videos of the 80's and 90's-PCM Stereo Only) Commercial MiniDisc Cyndi Lauper-Twelve Deadly Cyns..And Then Some I made a two MD compilation of The Eagles a few days ago. I used the new box set Selected Works 1972-1999 and TM Century HitDiscs for a few songs not in the collection. I also wanted to use the Hotel Calfornia version of Victim Of Love, but the levels on the previously released Eagles CD's were much lower than on the box set, so I used the live version of Victim Of Love from the fourth disc in the set, The Millenium Concert instead. For this reason, I'm wondering if I should purchase the CD version of Twelve Deadly Cyns...And Then Some. More on that to follow. As far as Cyndi Lauper, here's the track listing as it stands now before moving or deleting an tracks-the only two on the possible delete list are one of the Girls Just Want To Have Fun short versions and Iko Iko, mainly to make room for the LP version of What's Going On. I did not include the 1995 version of Girls Just Want To Have Fun (Hey Now) which is closer to Redbone's Come And Get Your Love than the 1983 original Girls Just Want To Have Fun. Track Listing: 1. Girls Just Want To Have Fun-Extended Version (Digital from The Best Remixes) 2. Change Of Heart-Extended Version (Digital from The Best Remixes) 3. She Bop-Special Dance Version (Digital from The Best Remixes) 4. Girls Just Want To Have Fun-LP Version (Digital from She's So Unusual) 5. Time After Time (Digital from She's So Unusual) 6. She Bop-LP Version (Digital from She's So Unusual) 7. True Colors (Digital from True Colors) 8. Change Of Heart-LP Version (Digital from True Colors) 9. I Drove All Night (Analog PCM Stereo from Twelve Deadly Cyns DVD) 10. The Goonies 'R' Good Enough-Dance Remix (Digital from The Best Remixes) 11. All Through The Night (Digital from She's So Unusual) 12. Money Changes Everything-Extended Live Version (Digital from The Best Remixes) 13. What's Going On-Club Version (Digital from The Best Remixes) 14. Girls Just Want To Have Fun-LP Version (Digital PCM Stereo from All Time Party Classics Volume One DVD) 15. Iko Iko (Digital from True Colors) The levels and the sound on The Best Remixes are excellent and those recordings sound the best. She's So Unusual and True Colors have much higher overall levels than the anemic previously released Eagles CD's, but the recording sounds a bit harsh/muddy? But it also sounds as if it were deliberately recorded that way. I know I can't record the commercial DVD digitally, but is it best to use the 5.1 track or the PCM track to record the audio from-if you choose the 5.1 track, will the MD recorder miss the information in the rear channels entirely. I doubt if recording from The Twelve Deadly Cyns MD to blank MD would yield as good a result as CD or DVD to MD, especially considering the no doubt earlier ATRAC version used in the now several years old prerecorded MD. For this reason, I'm thinking maybe the CD of Twelve Deadly Cyns would be better to buy and use for the album tracks-if they were remastered in any way over the original store CD's of She's So Unusual and True Colors. Some Cyndi Lauper stuff is also on SACD, but I don't have a SACD/DVD player-yet. I also put together similar compilations of Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera Dance Remix MD's over the past several days, but with the exception of one Christina Aguilera track from DVD, those were all digital. And they're also newer recordings so they use state of the art mastering to begin with, unlike the older Cyndi Lauper commercial MD's-except for the Dance Remixes import. Thoughts on how to get the best sound out of the existing Cyndi Lauper material I have, or if I should purchase a CD copy of Twelve Deadly Cyns to get the very best CD sound available on a non SACD Sony CD release? Does anyone have the CD's of Twelve Deadly Cyns, She's So Unusual and True Colors and detected a difference in remastering
MD: Cyndi Lauper MD
The point of the lengthy post is that often there is a discrepancy in the quality of older material not intitally released as CD's using Cyndi Lauper and The Eagles for example-especially The Eagles, whose new box set is a vast improvement over their initial CD reissues. For newer material like Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera, which were also cited as examples, this isn't an issue because everything was digital each step of the way to begin with (DDD as opposed to AAD or AAD). - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Cyndi Lauper MD
Last line in previous post should have read: DDD or AAD or ADD NOT DDD or AAD or AAD - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Cyndi Lauper MD
Just to make sure I own the best possible source of this material to transfer to MD, I bought three more Cyndi Lauper CD's today. From Tower for $9.99 I picked up the 2000 remastered rerelease of the 1983 album She's So Unusual with three extra bonus tracks. I think this release is significant because it is the only Lauper CD available currently in the SACD format. I think what Sony is doing is reissuing their remastered catalog SACD's as CD Reissues as well. This will probably mean a lot of Sony CD's will be remastered as SACD and better CD's as Sony tests the SACD marketplace. Since they're going to go to all that expense to try to make SACD a success, they may as well make CD releases of those SACD's, right? From Amazon.com I bought the CD of Twelve Deadly Cyns...And Then Some because I can't digitally record the DVD to MD since it is copy protected. And I also ordered a Best Of Import on a gold disc with a black cover. There was absolutely no information on it, so it could be really great or really awful when it arrives-so I took a chance on it. A two disc Bangles import CD I recently ordered which was the only way to get the long dance mixes of Walk Like An Egyptian, Manic Monday, etc. on CD was excellent. The Eagles Selected Works 1972-1999 is tremendously better production and sound wise than the original CD reissues of the originally recorded Eagles CD's. The packaging is cheap, the booklet with it nothing special, but it shines where it really counts in the musical remastering. Just one more example of wanting the best possible copy of something-for the movie Titanic I initally had the three VCD set, not good. Then I upgraded to Laser Disc. Then the non anamorphic DVD-good, but not great. Now I have a High Definition copy on D-VHS tape from HBO HDTV. By far the best, really better than in most all theaters. I'll listen to the She's So Unusual remaster and let you know how much of an improvement it is. If it's anything like The Eagles box set, it should be way better than the muddy/harsh original recording. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Cyndi Lauper MD Recording-Multiple Sources, Multiple Questions
I just made a Cyndi Lauper compilation MD using various digital and analog sources mixed on the MD. The material I copied from is as follows: Compact Discs Cyndi Lauper-She's So Unusual Cyndi Lauper-True Colors Cyndi Lauper-The Best Remixes (Import) DVD's Cyndi Lauper-Twelve Deadly Cyns..And Then Some (copy protected) (5.1 Dolby Digital and PCM Stereo) (selectable) All Time Party Classics Volume One (Promotional DVD Music Videos For DJ's) (not copy protected-contains Girls Just Want To Have Fun and about 50 other popular music videos of the 80's and 90's-PCM Stereo Only) Commercial MiniDisc Cyndi Lauper-Twelve Deadly Cyns..And Then Some I made a two MD compilation of The Eagles a few days ago. I used the new box set Selected Works 1972-1999 and TM Century HitDiscs for a few songs not in the collection. I also wanted to use the Hotel Calfornia version of Victim Of Love, but the levels on the previously released Eagles CD's were much lower than on the box set, so I used the live version of Victim Of Love from the fourth disc in the set, The Millenium Concert instead. For this reason, I'm wondering if I should purchase the CD version of Twelve Deadly Cyns...And Then Some. More on that to follow. As far as Cyndi Lauper, here's the track listing as it stands now before moving or deleting an tracks-the only two on the possible delete list are one of the Girls Just Want To Have Fun short versions and Iko Iko, mainly to make room for the LP version of What's Going On. I did not include the 1995 version of Girls Just Want To Have Fun (Hey Now) which is closer to Redbone's Come And Get Your Love than the 1983 original Girls Just Want To Have Fun. Track Listing: 1. Girls Just Want To Have Fun-Extended Version (Digital from The Best Remixes) 2. Change Of Heart-Extended Version (Digital from The Best Remixes) 3. She Bop-Special Dance Version (Digital from The Best Remixes) 4. Girls Just Want To Have Fun-LP Version (Digital from She's So Unusual) 5. Time After Time (Digital from She's So Unusual) 6. She Bop-LP Version (Digital from She's So Unusual) 7. True Colors (Digital from True Colors) 8. Change Of Heart-LP Version (Digital from True Colors) 9. I Drove All Night (Analog PCM Stereo from Twelve Deadly Cyns DVD) 10. The Goonies 'R' Good Enough-Dance Remix (Digital from The Best Remixes) 11. All Through The Night (Digital from She's So Unusual) 12. Money Changes Everything-Extended Live Version (Digital from The Best Remixes) 13. What's Going On-Club Version (Digital from The Best Remixes) 14. Girls Just Want To Have Fun-LP Version (Digital PCM Stereo from All Time Party Classics Volume One DVD) 15. Iko Iko (Digital from True Colors) The levels and the sound on The Best Remixes are excellent and those recordings sound the best. She's So Unusual and True Colors have much higher overall levels than the anemic previously released Eagles CD's, but the recording sounds a bit harsh/muddy? But it also sounds as if it were deliberately recorded that way. I know I can't record the commercial DVD digitally, but is it best to use the 5.1 track or the PCM track to record the audio from-if you choose the 5.1 track, will the MD recorder miss the information in the rear channels entirely. I doubt if recording from The Twelve Deadly Cyns MD to blank MD would yield as good a result as CD or DVD to MD, especially considering the no doubt earlier ATRAC version used in the now several years old prerecorded MD. For this reason, I'm thinking maybe the CD of Twelve Deadly Cyns would be better to buy and use for the album tracks-if they were remastered in any way over the original store CD's of She's So Unusual and True Colors. Some Cyndi Lauper stuff is also on SACD, but I don't have a SACD/DVD player-yet. I also put together similar compilations of Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera Dance Remix MD's over the past several days, but with the exception of one Christina Aguilera track from DVD, those were all digital. And they're also newer recordings so they use state of the art mastering to begin with, unlike the older Cyndi Lauper commercial MD's-except for the Dance Remixes import. Thoughts on how to get the best sound out of the existing Cyndi Lauper material I have, or if I should purchase a CD copy of Twelve Deadly Cyns to get the very best CD sound available on a non SACD Sony CD release? Does anyone have the CD's of Twelve Deadly Cyns, She's So Unusual and True Colors and detected a difference in remastering? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]