Re: MD: Etymotic ER4S Earphones-- Oh My G-D!!!!
Jeff Medin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ETYMOTIC RESEARCH also makes an ER4P for portables. Check out the HEADROOM site for the differences. Major difference is that the "P" has a lower impedance (27 ohms VS 100 ohms) than the ER4S. The "S" is accurate, but very difficult to drive from most portables, but ER4P can be driven from portables without an amp, BUT they will not sound the same as the ER4S (less accurate, etc.). Caveat: the 4P won't sound as good as the 4S *with* a good headphone amp. *However*, the 4P will definitely sound better than the 4S when used directly from the headphone jack of a portable. The 4S simply need more power than you can get from a portable. While the Sharp portables have more powerful headphone jacks than other brands, they still can't drive the 4S very well. The 4P may not be as techically "accurate" as the 4S, but they will sound "better" straight from a MD player. Someone else asked: Thanks for the information on these. Have you had a chance to compare these with Sennheiser 580's? I'd like to know what you think. The Sennheiser's really don't get much volume out of the portables and are fairly large and goofy looking for wearing that way although they work well on component equipment. Like the 4S, the 580s simply can't get enough power from any portable to sound their best. Even many home amps don't drive them well (the headphone "amps" built into most amps/receivers are very poor). You really need a dedicated headphone amp to get the most out of the 580s (or the Etymotic 4S, for that matter). If you're going to be driving your 'phones directly from a portable, and you don't want anything too big and bulky, you're better off with the Ety 4P (for the absolute best sound and for shutting out all noise :-)), or something like the Grado SR60 (around $60) or the Koss Porta-Pro or KSC 35 ($30 -- same headphones, just different style band/clips). In my opinion, these are the best three headphones values (sound for the money) for portables, without question. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Etymotic ER4S Earphones-- Oh My G-D!!!!
This is a combo Minidisc and Headphone post -- so I will take the liberty of posting to both the MINIDISC "http://www.mindisc.org" forum as well as the HEADWIZE HEADPHONE "http://www.headwize.com" forum. I just received both a pair of Etymotic ER4S Earphones "http://www.etymotic.com" along with an AIRHEAD Headphone Amp from Headroom "http://www.headphone.com" for use with my new SHARP 831 MD Player/Recorder. I have died and gone to heaven! The SHARP/ETY Combo sounds incredible. Sounds better than my home system with Polk satellites/sub woofer combo driven by an APT/Holman Pre Power amp. The Ety's are real magic makers and can be driven (IMO!) to respectable sound levels directly from my 831 WITHOUT an external amp. The AIRHEAD AMP makes them louder, but the "sonic processor" effect is barely noticeable if at all. I will call HEADROOM Monday, maybe I got a bad unit (it happens). So far, I find no need for the amp. HEADROOM is a GREAT company with AWESOME products. I got the AIRHEAD, my Ety's, and an MD Carry Case which is just the ticket, and priceless advice. Shipped in 2 days--for free! They Ety's quite simply supply the most accurate rendition of sound that can come from ANYTHING electronic (with a headphone jack!). It is like plugging your brain directly into the stereo miniplug of my SHARP 831 MD Player/Recorder! No wonder they cost $300 Bucks! (But are on sale at HEADROOM for $269.) My wife said I was out of my mind (to spend 3 bills on cans) and I just got ALL my Christmas presents). The last time I was that impressed by anything sonic was: 1) The first time I heard Dahlquist DQ-10's (in their day) driven by tube Mac's 2) When I auditioned the Original Carver Amazing Loudspeakers -- driven by OriginalCarver Megawatt Amps. (in their day) 3) When I first heard my new SHARP 831 thru Sony MDR-E888 Ear Buds (the 888's are brandnew and for sale off list--contact me directly if interested [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Be aware that aside from the price, the Ety's are not for everyone. My wife's ears are small and finds them VERY UNCOMFORTABLE (She loves her Sony 600's). Although she is also AWED by the sound. (For about another $100 or so you can get custom ear molds made!) I find them comfortable with both the supplied sound isolating silicone or the foam tips. ETYMOTIC RESEARCH also makes an ER4P for portables. Check out the HEADROOM site for the differences. Major difference is that the "P" has a lower impedance (27 ohms VS 100 ohms) than the ER4S. The "S" is accurate, but very difficult to drive from most portables, but ER4P can be driven from portables without an amp, BUT they will not sound the same as the ER4S (less accurate, etc.). I NEVER thought I would spend 3 Bills on headphones, I am now a convert and will not travel far from home without my SHARP 831 MD and my Ety ER4S phones. No more "Bud's" for this guy! - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Etymotic ER4S Earphones-- Oh My G-D!!!!
Thanks for the information on these. Have you had a chance to compare these with Sennheiser 580's? I'd like to know what you think. The Sennheiser's really don't get much volume out of the portables and are fairly large and goofy looking for wearing that way although they work well on component equipment. Sennheiser also has a new model I can't remember the number of in this price range I saw for the first time glancing through the new products pages of "Sound Vision" or a similar A/V magazine. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Etymotic ER4S Earphones-- Oh My G-D!!!!
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Although I've heard nothing but great reviews about these earphones, I personally found them unimpressive and uncomfortable. Something about my ear canal must be a bit different from most people, but they definitely were not worth $300 to me. (And yes, I tried all the recommended adjustments). Anyway, I only mention this to encourage people to check on return/exchange policies wherever they buy their headphones. (The Sony MDR-E888LP's ended-up being much better for me, and at half the price. Your mileage may vary...) omf On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Jeff Medin wrote: This is a combo Minidisc and Headphone post -- so I will take the liberty of posting to both the MINIDISC "http://www.mindisc.org" forum as well as the HEADWIZE HEADPHONE "http://www.headwize.com" forum. I just received both a pair of Etymotic ER4S Earphones "http://www.etymotic.com" along with an AIRHEAD Headphone Amp from Headroom "http://www.headphone.com" for use with my new SHARP 831 MD Player/Recorder. I have died and gone to heaven! The SHARP/ETY Combo sounds incredible. Sounds better than my home system with Polk satellites/sub woofer combo driven by an APT/Holman Pre Power amp. The Ety's are real magic makers and can be driven (IMO!) to respectable sound levels directly from my 831 WITHOUT an external amp. The AIRHEAD AMP makes them louder, but the "sonic processor" effect is barely noticeable if at all. I will call HEADROOM Monday, maybe I got a bad unit (it happens). So far, I find no need for the amp. HEADROOM is a GREAT company with AWESOME products. I got the AIRHEAD, my Ety's, and an MD Carry Case which is just the ticket, and priceless advice. Shipped in 2 days--for free! They Ety's quite simply supply the most accurate rendition of sound that can come from ANYTHING electronic (with a headphone jack!). It is like plugging your brain directly into the stereo miniplug of my SHARP 831 MD Player/Recorder! No wonder they cost $300 Bucks! (But are on sale at HEADROOM for $269.) My wife said I was out of my mind (to spend 3 bills on cans) and I just got ALL my Christmas presents). The last time I was that impressed by anything sonic was: 1) The first time I heard Dahlquist DQ-10's (in their day) driven by tube Mac's 2) When I auditioned the Original Carver Amazing Loudspeakers -- driven by OriginalCarver Megawatt Amps. (in their day) 3) When I first heard my new SHARP 831 thru Sony MDR-E888 Ear Buds (the 888's are brandnew and for sale off list--contact me directly if interested [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Be aware that aside from the price, the Ety's are not for everyone. My wife's ears are small and finds them VERY UNCOMFORTABLE (She loves her Sony 600's). Although she is also AWED by the sound. (For about another $100 or so you can get custom ear molds made!) I find them comfortable with both the supplied sound isolating silicone or the foam tips. ETYMOTIC RESEARCH also makes an ER4P for portables. Check out the HEADROOM site for the differences. Major difference is that the "P" has a lower impedance (27 ohms VS 100 ohms) than the ER4S. The "S" is accurate, but very difficult to drive from most portables, but ER4P can be driven from portables without an amp, BUT they will not sound the same as the ER4S (less accurate, etc.). I NEVER thought I would spend 3 Bills on headphones, I am now a convert and will not travel far from home without my SHARP 831 MD and my Ety ER4S phones. No more "Bud's" for this guy! - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Etymotic ER4S Earphones-- Oh My G-D!!!!
I like the headphones that came with my panasonic shockwavei don't know how they rate with you professionals though ;) you can get them standalone here http://www.minidisco.com/specifications/panasoniccliponhead.html cheers, mark ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeff Medin Sent: November 21, 1999 4:16 PM To: Mini-Disk Digest Mail List Subject: MD: Etymotic ER4S Earphones-- Oh My G-D This is a combo Minidisc and Headphone post -- so I will take the liberty of posting to both the MINIDISC "http://www.mindisc.org" forum as well as the HEADWIZE HEADPHONE "http://www.headwize.com" forum. I just received both a pair of Etymotic ER4S Earphones "http://www.etymotic.com" along with an AIRHEAD Headphone Amp from Headroom "http://www.headphone.com" for use with my new SHARP 831 MD Player/Recorder. I have died and gone to heaven! The SHARP/ETY Combo sounds incredible. Sounds better than my home system with Polk satellites/sub woofer combo driven by an APT/Holman Pre Power amp. The Ety's are real magic makers and can be driven (IMO!) to respectable sound levels directly from my 831 WITHOUT an external amp. The AIRHEAD AMP makes them louder, but the "sonic processor" effect is barely noticeable if at all. I will call HEADROOM Monday, maybe I got a bad unit (it happens). So far, I find no need for the amp. HEADROOM is a GREAT company with AWESOME products. I got the AIRHEAD, my Ety's, and an MD Carry Case which is just the ticket, and priceless advice. Shipped in 2 days--for free! They Ety's quite simply supply the most accurate rendition of sound that can come from ANYTHING electronic (with a headphone jack!). It is like plugging your brain directly into the stereo miniplug of my SHARP 831 MD Player/Recorder! No wonder they cost $300 Bucks! (But are on sale at HEADROOM for $269.) My wife said I was out of my mind (to spend 3 bills on cans) and I just got ALL my Christmas presents). The last time I was that impressed by anything sonic was: 1) The first time I heard Dahlquist DQ-10's (in their day) driven by tube Mac's 2) When I auditioned the Original Carver Amazing Loudspeakers -- driven by OriginalCarver Megawatt Amps. (in their day) 3) When I first heard my new SHARP 831 thru Sony MDR-E888 Ear Buds (the 888's are brandnew and for sale off list--contact me directly if interested [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Be aware that aside from the price, the Ety's are not for everyone. My wife's ears are small and finds them VERY UNCOMFORTABLE (She loves her Sony 600's). Although she is also AWED by the sound. (For about another $100 or so you can get custom ear molds made!) I find them comfortable with both the supplied sound isolating silicone or the foam tips. ETYMOTIC RESEARCH also makes an ER4P for portables. Check out the HEADROOM site for the differences. Major difference is that the "P" has a lower impedance (27 ohms VS 100 ohms) than the ER4S. The "S" is accurate, but very difficult to drive from most portables, but ER4P can be driven from portables without an amp, BUT they will not sound the same as the ER4S (less accurate, etc.). I NEVER thought I would spend 3 Bills on headphones, I am now a convert and will not travel far from home without my SHARP 831 MD and my Ety ER4S phones. No more "Bud's" for this guy! - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
