MD: HAVi
A few weeks ago I mentioned that I thought it would be great if sound systems went to FireWire to interconnect the components. Well, last night I was reading the March 2000 issue of Popular Science while I was at the doctor's office. According to that issue, an extension of the FireWire standard named HAVi has been developed to do exactly that. And the first products are expected to ship this summer! Does anyone know where to find more info on these upcoming products? Ed "What the" Heckman [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--+ | It is easy to sit up and take notice. What is difficult is | | getting up and taking action.| | -- Al Batt | +--+ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: HAVi
Different extensions/specs for firewire have been trying to get out there for some time now, i know it's been well over a year now. The spec is not done an they dont expect the final to be done for quite a long time. I'm not a big fan of firewire by any realm so i'll try and put this with as little personal bashing of the product as i can. Apple did have a great idea in the firewire idea, but it took them way too freggin long and too much in licensing fee's to try and get it out there. The specs for the next generations of firewire are still a long way from being anywhere near actual use where 2 companies can make a product and actually have them work together. Right now i'm looking out for usb2, it's not my favorite either, but as much of the world that uses usb already over firewire it has a much better chanch of making it. As for USB vs's fiber arguement, SCSI has already shown us that multiple copper lines can well outperform a single light source, now if we could get multiplexed fiber at a reasonable cost that would be fun. But as for right now in the mass comsumer market i say look for more usb devices they will be much easier to find and you will probably have a much easier time finding drivers for them too. Later Matt - Original Message - From: Ed Heckman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MiniDisc List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2000 2:18 PM Subject: MD: HAVi A few weeks ago I mentioned that I thought it would be great if sound systems went to FireWire to interconnect the components. Well, last night I was reading the March 2000 issue of Popular Science while I was at the doctor's office. According to that issue, an extension of the FireWire standard named HAVi has been developed to do exactly that. And the first products are expected to ship this summer! Does anyone know where to find more info on these upcoming products? Ed "What the" Heckman [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--+ | It is easy to sit up and take notice. What is difficult is | | getting up and taking action.| | -- Al Batt | +--+ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: HAVi
At 3/11/00 3:37 PM, Matt Wall increased the world's knowledge by typing: Different extensions/specs for firewire have been trying to get out there for some time now, i know it's been well over a year now. The spec is not done an they dont expect the final to be done for quite a long time. If it's not done, then why are they saying that products should be shipping this summer? Apple did have a great idea in the firewire idea, but it took them way too freggin long and too much in licensing fee's to try and get it out there. I agree that it took too long, but products are shipping now. I just wish the peripheral vendors would catch up. But forget the complaints about licensing fees. At $.25 per port it's nowhere near being large enough to be a deal breaker. Those who complain about it usually are just using it as an excuse for why they're not using FireWire when the real reason is probably closer to them not understanding how to implement it. The specs for the next generations of firewire are still a long way from being anywhere near actual use where 2 companies can make a product and actually have them work together. So what? The current version of FireWire is plenty fast enough for any consumer audio/video system. Right now i'm looking out for usb2, it's not my favorite either, but as much of the world that uses usb already over firewire it has a much better chanch of making it. Again, so what? USB2 isn't here yet. It's not even close. And when it does ship, it will probably cost about as much to implement as FireWire. (Hey, speed costs money.) But as for right now in the mass comsumer market i say look for more usb devices they will be much easier to find and you will probably have a much easier time finding drivers for them too. I think you're missing the point of HAVi. Its purpose is to provide a single digital connection between audio and video components that will carry both control signals and audio/video data. It's also supposed to a standard that's supposed to be supported by more than one vendor. Supposedly you could connect a Sony TV to a Panasonic DVD player, a Sharp MiniDisc player and a Denon receiver and have them all work together properly. (That's the pipe dream, anyway. G) That you will be able to connect a computer to an HAVi system is something of a bonus. But once such systems are in place, the computer drivers should appear rather quickly. Ed "What the" Heckman [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--+ | The most efficient labor-saving device is still money. | | -- Franklin P. Jones | +--+ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
