Re: MD: Interfacing MD Walkmans to OEM stereos in the trendy VWs

2000-09-19 Thread Neil


On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 00:20:39 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From the tone of the list, I have heard many negative comments about
vehicle
  builders like VW making it hard for us to hook up portable MD and MP3
  players to newer factory-supplied car-audio setups. As I said before,
this
  has caused fellow listmembers to downgrade to vehicle packages that don't
  match what they really want or stay away from certain desireable vehicles
  when the time comes around to change vehicles; just so they can have a
  cassette player to use with their cassette adaptor or a sound system that
  has a front-panel CD-IN socket.
  
  Does anyone know if there are any devices that allow an MD changer or MD
  Walkman to be hooked in to newer VW sound systems?

I drive a current model VW Passat, which had the VW Gamma sound unit in (RDS
receiver, full logic tape deck, with support for CD changer). I was always
quite pleased with the sound from it, and the speakers installed as stock (4
front, 4 rear - 2 in each door). When I first bought an MD portable, I used
a cassette adapter, which worked quite well - and I was happy with the
results.

Since, I've had a Sony Minidisc head unit fitted - by VW, and I'm happy
enough with it, the sound is good enough, and it's easy to use. This
supports a CD / MD changer, too. I understand the car is wired up, as
standard, for a CD changer in the boot / trunk - whether this cabling would
be OK for another vendor's changer, I don't know.

However, there are some features from the stock stereo that I miss (GALA -
the automatic adjustment of the volume, as road spead increases / decreases
- stuff like that - I found it very useful), and the styling of the OEM unit
looks considerably better in the car, than the Sony unit I have at present.

So, silly 'though it may sound, I'm considering having the original head
unit put back in, and using a cassette adapter with one of my portables
again.

But in reply to the general question over whether VW discourage owners from
using MD - I'd say they make no particular effort either way - not tangibly
different from any other manufacturer IMO.

Neil





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RE: MD: Interfacing MD Walkmans to OEM stereos in the trendy VWs

2000-09-19 Thread Simon Gardner


1.  Display - capital letters only (uses CD/calculator-like display
rather than dot matrix, probably because the CD headunits use the same face)
but a real shame when you use lower and upper case a lot, doesn't scroll and
you can't get remaining time in a track.  (minor gripes really)

It will scroll, but Autoscroll is disabled by default - go through the menu 
items till you get to A.SCRL and turn it on. It then scrolls the track or 
disc name past once when it changes (then stops on the first 8 characters 
to stop it annoying you). Not having remaining time is annoying, but most 
of my discs are titled and I'd rather see them than the time.

hth,

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Simon

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MD: Interfacing MD Walkmans to OEM stereos in the trendy VWs

2000-09-18 Thread Simon Mackay


Hi everyone!

I have noticed that over the last few years, the new Volkswagen cars,
especially the New Beetle and the Golf, have become very fashionable amongst
the young well-to-do in Europe and Australia. The New Beetle would also be
considered fashionable in North America as well.

In a lot of these situations, the young people would either be buying the
cars through the company that they own; or leasing it (perhaps for tax
advantage and the ability to upgrade the vehicle when the lease terminates).
In these situations, it may be desireable not to mess around with the sound
system; and also the owner may not want to put in a new MD head unit because
of security reasons or that it may look out of place in the VW's
blue-illuminated dashboard. In the case of the New Beetle, there is a
distinctive styling setup where the edges of the audio system are round,
rather than square.

In Australia, I have noticed that most of the current VW lineup, including
the New Beetle, are equipped with single-CD head units that can work with a
very costly dealer-installed optional six-stack CD changer. With these
units, the CD stacker is accessed by one pressing a button labelled CD-C.
Cassette-based head units aren't even offered as a "downgrade"; confined to
the Transporter vans; or available only in less-desireable packages where
you lose all the other desireable options.

From the tone of the list, I have heard many negative comments about vehicle
builders like VW making it hard for us to hook up portable MD and MP3
players to newer factory-supplied car-audio setups. As I said before, this
has caused fellow listmembers to downgrade to vehicle packages that don't
match what they really want or stay away from certain desireable vehicles
when the time comes around to change vehicles; just so they can have a
cassette player to use with their cassette adaptor or a sound system that
has a front-panel CD-IN socket.

Does anyone know if there are any devices that allow an MD changer or MD
Walkman to be hooked in to newer VW sound systems?

With regards,

Simon Mackay

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Re: MD: Interfacing MD Walkmans to OEM stereos in the trendy VWs

2000-09-18 Thread Simon Gardner


[sorry, can't help with the rest of the post]

In these situations, it may be desireable not to mess around with the sound
system; and also the owner may not want to put in a new MD head unit because
of security reasons or that it may look out of place in the VW's
blue-illuminated dashboard.

Some of the newer Sony headunits have blue displays (as an option) that 
match VW dashboards. The model numbers usually have -RV on the end. (afaik) 
there are also facia panels available that allow you to put a standard DIN 
headunit in and have it match reasonably with the dash (similar materials, 
etc).

After struggling with a portable and a tape adaptor for months, I just 
bought a MD headunit instead. Point taken about owners not wanting to 
affect their car's value - but surely they could just take out the standard 
one and leave it to one side until they sell/give the car back?

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RE: MD: Interfacing MD Walkmans to OEM stereos in the trendy VWs

2000-09-18 Thread Richard Lang


Simon wrote:

 After struggling with a portable and a tape adaptor for 
 months, I just 
 bought a MD headunit instead. Point taken about owners not wanting to 
 affect their car's value - but surely they could just take 
 out the standard 
 one and leave it to one side until they sell/give the car back?

Fully couldn't agree more.  I used the tape adapter with my E25 for 18
months, better than sticking with tape but indded a struggle.  I also got a
Sony MDX-C6500R as soon as I could afford it, about 2 months ago, and
driving my car hasn't been the same since!  

I still have the old factory headunit that I will stick back in when I sell
the car but I suspect that the factory headunit (1989 double DIN tape deck
that is temporamental at BEST) will be less of a concern to a potential
purchaser than the rest of the car itself (1989 Toyota Celica).  At least I
hope that will be the case!

The MD headunit was not cheap (NZ$800) but worth every cent.  it sounds
great and looks sexier than any headunit I've come across yet.  And it's
easy to use.  For me MD is in it's element most in a portable context, so
car MD just makes sense.  The only things that make me a little dark about
the unit are:

1.  Display - capital letters only (uses CD/calculator-like display
rather than dot matrix, probably because the CD headunits use the same face)
but a real shame when you use lower and upper case a lot, doesn't scroll and
you can't get remaining time in a track.  (minor gripes really)

2.  No MDLP, which despite the odd MD-L prophet of doom sounds like it
will catch on.  I'm interested in getting a Sony 640/940 home separate with
MDLP, but then I think that the main place I'd like the ability to play back
long capacity discs would be in my car on long trips [sigh].

Anyone else out there feeling a little cheated by MDLP?

richard


Richard Lang
Solicitor

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Christchurch, New Zealand

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