Re: MD: copying sound files to MD 1x (was question)

2000-10-24 Thread Mike Malsman


On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 02:56:26PM -0500, David W. Tamkin wrote:
 Larry asked,
 | David, do you know of any specific model that is on the market today that
 | will copy CDs to MD (in digital transfer) at a rate of 4x??
 
 Others will know better than I, but didn't the Sony MXD-D3 do it?

It sure does - I purchased my mxd-d3 about 3 months ago.  It works great,
encodes nicely - they only gripe I have with it is that there is no optical 
output (only input).  Aside from that I recommend the unit if you're out 
to grab a deck that does 4x (actually it's the only one I've heard of 
that'll do 4x).

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Re: MD: copying sound files to MD 1x (was question)

2000-10-24 Thread J. Coon


How about high speed MD to MD copy?  THere are tape duping machines,
that will do that.  is there one for MD?

Mike Malsman wrote:
 
 On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 02:56:26PM -0500, David W. Tamkin wrote:
  Larry asked,
  | David, do you know of any specific model that is on the market today that
  | will copy CDs to MD (in digital transfer) at a rate of 4x??
 
  Others will know better than I, but didn't the Sony MXD-D3 do it?


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Re: MD: copying sound files to MD 1x (was question)

2000-10-24 Thread sherryl


 It sure does - I purchased my mxd-d3 about 3 months ago.  It works great,
 encodes nicely - they only gripe I have with it is that there is no optical
 output (only input).  Aside from that I recommend the unit if you're out
 to grab a deck that does 4x (actually it's the only one I've heard of
 that'll do 4x).
 
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Where did you buy yours and how much did you pay, if I may ask??  As far
as the optical output goes, I have a coaxial to digital converter that I
bought from Nate White, who is on the Md list.  With shipping to the US,
I think the price was still under S40.

I have a receiver now that has 2 optical and 2 coaxial in and outs, so
I'm not sure if I even need the converter any more.  I'm pretty sure
that I have already used the coaxial out from my DVD player to the
receiver and then used the optical out to my portable MD recorder.

One big question.  When the unit is copying CDs to MD, does it do it by
direct digital transfer?  If it only copies analog, then I don't think
I'd want one.  Maybe it's just a psychological thing with me, but I do
all of my copying in digital only.

But the fact is that when I got my first MD recorder (Sony MZ-1) I had
to wait for them to special order the digital cable, so I made some MDs
in analog.  They sounded fine to me.  But then again everyone hates the
way the MZ-1 with ATRAC 1 sounded and I didn't think it was that bad. 
It all depended upon the system you used to listen to it on.

Thanks,
Larry
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Re: MD: copying sound files to MD 1x (was question)

2000-10-24 Thread sherryl


"J. Coon" wrote:

Jim, even if there is, you can't make a digital copy of a digital copy
of an MD.  Plus let's not forget ATRAC.  Even if you could bypass SCMS,
you are going to have some generation loss for each copy.

I'd love to hear how many generations it really takes before you start
to notice the loss.  But since I can't make a digital copy from a
digital copy, I have no way of trying this experiment.

Changing the subject to our "favorite", while the record companies are
bitching about Napster, how come they have never lowered the price of
prerecorded CDs?

It is my understanding that it actually costs less to make a CD then a
cassette.  I think that the process is different from the way they
originally make them and the cost is very low.

You can buy a blank CDR for fifty cents!!  I once heard that it costs
them about sixty cents to make a prerecorded CD.  I'm speaking of the
actual pressing.  Nothing else.

A vinyl record album cover most cost as much as a Jewel box with the
tiny graphics they have.  

Is it true that Napster offered the record companies the idea of a
monthly fee for downloading and the record companies rejected it flat
out?

Larry
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Re: MD: copying sound files to MD 1x (was question)

2000-10-24 Thread sherryl


"J. Coon" wrote:

Jim, even if there is, you can't make a digital copy of a digital copy
of an MD.  Plus let's not forget ATRAC.  Even if you could bypass SCMS,
you are going to have some generation loss for each copy.

I'd love to hear how many generations it really takes before you start
to notice the loss.  But since I can't make a digital copy from a
digital copy, I have no way of trying this experiment.

Changing the subject to our "favorite", while the record companies are
bitching about Napster, how come they have never lowered the price of
prerecorded CDs?

It is my understanding that it actually costs less to make a CD then a
cassette.  I think that the process is different from the way they
originally make them and the cost is very low.

You can buy a blank CDR for fifty cents!!  I once heard that it costs
them about sixty cents to make a prerecorded CD.  I'm speaking of the
actual pressing.  Nothing else.

A vinyl record album cover most cost as much as a Jewel box with the
tiny graphics they have.  

Is it true that Napster offered the record companies the idea of a
monthly fee for downloading and the record companies rejected it flat
out?

Larry
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Re: MD: copying sound files to MD 1x (was question)

2000-10-24 Thread Mike Malsman


On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 09:02:35PM -0400, sherryl wrote:
 snipblah blah I bought an mxd-d3/snip

 Where did you buy yours and how much did you pay, if I may ask??  As far
 as the optical output goes, I have a coaxial to digital converter that I
 bought from Nate White, who is on the Md list.  With shipping to the US,
 I think the price was still under S40.

I bought mine at Best Buy for ~$300.  I'm sure you can find it for much
cheaper ( a quick google search shows:
http://www.electronicsemall.com/electronicsemall2k/sonmxcdplaym.html
for $185), but I just need instant gratification =)

 One big question.  When the unit is copying CDs to MD, does it do it by
 direct digital transfer?  If it only copies analog, then I don't think
 I'd want one.  Maybe it's just a psychological thing with me, but I do
 all of my copying in digital only.
Of course!  The cd-md is purely digital.  I'm the same way, none of my
recorings are analogue - the cd-md copy is essentially the only reason
I bought the deck (although, now that I have my rm-d20p kb remote I'm even
more happy with it)

 But the fact is that when I got my first MD recorder (Sony MZ-1) I had
 to wait for them to special order the digital cable, so I made some MDs
 in analog.  They sounded fine to me.  But then again everyone hates the
 way the MZ-1 with ATRAC 1 sounded and I didn't think it was that bad. 
 It all depended upon the system you used to listen to it on.
Some analogue recordings I've made sounded alright, but still don't compare
to digital.  Bleh =P

 Thanks,
 Larry

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Re: MD: copying sound files to MD 1x (was question)

2000-10-23 Thread las


"David W. Tamkin" wrote:

 The exception is certain CD-MD combo units that can copy from CD to MD at 2x
 or even 4x; but if you're recording input from an external source,

David, do you know of any specific model that is on the market today that will
copy CDs to MD (in digital transfer) at a rate of 4x??

I'd be more interested in something like that than an MDLP 4 unit.  My goal is to
copy all of my CDs to MD.  I've started to stock up (thinks to Peter and "his"
coupons on MDs).

Larry
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Re: MD: copying sound files to MD 1x (was question)

2000-10-23 Thread David W. Tamkin


Larry asked,

| David, do you know of any specific model that is on the market today that
| will copy CDs to MD (in digital transfer) at a rate of 4x??

Others will know better than I, but didn't the Sony MXD-D3 do it?

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Re: MD: copying sound files to MD 1x (was question)

2000-10-22 Thread David W. Tamkin


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| I am new to the minidisc scene.. I was wondering if there is a way to "dump"
| files from a computer to a minidisc w/out having to play the entire track..
| like for example from mp3, aif or wav to md..

No, sorry.  Remember that a MiniDisc recorder is an audio recording device;
don't think of it as a computer peripheral.  It can store tracks only in its
own format; you can copy the sound of an MP3 or wav file to it but you can't
transfer the file itself.

Something has to generate an audio signal (S/PDIF or analog) for the MD unit
to record.  It can -- the exception will be noted below, so cool your jets,
folks -- go only in real time.  You can always do other things while it's
running.

The exception is certain CD-MD combo units that can copy from CD to MD at 2x
or even 4x; but if you're recording input from an external source, then they,
too, go at real time.

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