Re: MD: MD - CD-R

2001-05-31 Thread Stuart Howlette


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 Questions in response to Danny-K's response 5/29

 About using optical-digital links to get audio into a PC, are there any
 optical/TOSLINK to USB adapting boxes?  Or, if you used such a device,
 would you run into the same kind of problem (changing speed
 upredictably) that you'd get from inputting straight to a sound card
 with an optical input?  The reason I'm interested in USB is because I'm
 using an iMac (no expandability with respect to sound cards.)

 I know HHB makes that USB connected MD field recorder, but it's priced
 for pros ($$$).  Is there another solution?

 I'd love to be able to pull files digitally into my Mac's hard drive for
 editing/manipulation.  Analog in just seems so unsatisfying and time
 consuming...


There is one which is USB, has optical in, coax in, analog in and analog
out, the USB One (by Media Assistance I believe) but if you are wanting a
full digital I/O then your going to have to look elsewhere, and I do notknow
if it works with Macs, your going to have to find out for yourself there.

Stuart Howlette

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RE: MD: MD -- CD-R

2001-05-30 Thread Tony Antoniou


If you're a stickler for quality like I am, then you'll want a soundcard
with digital I/O. That doesn't mean you need to pay megabucks for a good
card, unless you also want a card that has an excellent DA converter for
listening to any post-production work you actually perform on your WAV's
before recording to CD.

I use a Turtlebeach Fiji with Digital I/O. Excellent price, and excellent
sound to boot. It's one of the most accurate soundcards I've had the
pleasure of working with and was well worth the $400 I spent on it 3 years
back.

As for Sony's USB connection, in terms of sonic quality it's every bit the
same as transferring digitally via the S/PDIF format. Either way, you cannot
go wrong when you're going digital. If the quality of the recording wasn't
the best to begin with, then you may as well just go anaogue instead.


Adios,
LarZ

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hi

what is the best way to take live shows youve recorded on your MD and
transfer them to a CD-R on your computer? should i invest in a killer
soundcard or is it a waste of money? is it ok to just go mini-to-mini with
the CD-RW? is there a reasonably priced MD component that allows for digital
output to a burner?

also, what benefit do i get with the sony USB connection in terms of sonic
quality?

i tried the archives but they are SO hard to navigate with respect to this
question.


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RE: MD: MD - CD-R

2001-05-30 Thread Walton Rowell


Questions in response to Danny-K's response 5/29

About using optical-digital links to get audio into a PC, are there any
optical/TOSLINK to USB adapting boxes?  Or, if you used such a device,
would you run into the same kind of problem (changing speed
upredictably) that you'd get from inputting straight to a sound card
with an optical input?  The reason I'm interested in USB is because I'm
using an iMac (no expandability with respect to sound cards.)

I know HHB makes that USB connected MD field recorder, but it's priced
for pros ($$$).  Is there another solution?

I'd love to be able to pull files digitally into my Mac's hard drive for
editing/manipulation.  Analog in just seems so unsatisfying and time
consuming...

 what is the best way to take live shows youve recorded on your MD and
 transfer them to a CD-R on your computer? should i invest in a killer
 soundcard or is it a waste of money?

You need a minidisc recorder with digital coax in/out (not to be
confused
with optical).  Coax is best from what people tell me.  And from I've
heard
optical is not desirable for digital PC transfer, and was probably
designed
to hook up to high-end receivers.  As someone on the list recently
described, if the optical in board on your PC does not reclock the
optical
signal, you'll get PC recordings that change speed unpredictably.  And
that's worse than analog.

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Re: MD: MD -- CD-R

2001-05-29 Thread Marc Britten


unless i'm way off(haven't played w/ it this way) the sony USB connection is 
downstream, from soundcard to MD, not upstream, from MD to soundcard.

marc
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Re: MD: MD -- CD-R

2001-05-29 Thread Stuart Howlette


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 hi

 what is the best way to take live shows youve recorded on your MD and
 transfer them to a CD-R on your computer? should i invest in a killer
 soundcard or is it a waste of money? is it ok to just go mini-to-mini with
 the CD-RW? is there a reasonably priced MD component that allows for
digital
 output to a burner?

 also, what benefit do i get with the sony USB connection in terms of sonic
 quality?

 i tried the archives but they are SO hard to navigate with respect to this
 question.

 inquiring minds...

 thanks
 kip martin


There are many ways in which you can go about this, buy a digital soundcard
(no, they aren't all wallet killers, bout $50 for an AudioExcel AV511 and
daughterboard from www.optibits.com). Of course, you could simply go the
analog route, but then if your wanting decent quality, you'll have to get a
hiss removal program and introduce another process. A logical way would be
to get an Audio CD burner, maybe the Marantz DR6000, which can record on
normal computer blanks, and buy an SCMS stripper to go between the md unit
and cd recorder.

Stuart Howlette

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RE: MD: MD -- CD-R

2001-05-29 Thread Danny-K


 what is the best way to take live shows youve recorded on your MD and
 transfer them to a CD-R on your computer? should i invest in a killer
 soundcard or is it a waste of money? is it ok to just go
 mini-to-mini with
 the CD-RW? is there a reasonably priced MD component that allows
 for digital
 output to a burner?

All of this is coming from someone that's been looking to do the same
thing--record digitally from MD to PC.

You need a minidisc recorder with digital coax in/out (not to be confused
with optical).  Coax is best from what people tell me.  And from I've heard
optical is not desirable for digital PC transfer, and was probably designed
to hook up to high-end receivers.  As someone on the list recently
described, if the optical in board on your PC does not reclock the optical
signal, you'll get PC recordings that change speed unpredictably.  And
that's worse than analog.

Then you need an I/O card that has digital coax in/out and you're good to
go.  Go to midiman.com and buy one of theirs.  They even have one that kills
SCMS, but you don't need that to go to PC, only for digital MD-MD copying.
Card can be had for less than $100.

As far as MD units, I originally had my eye on the Pioneer MJ-17D (the price
is right, and it's pretty sweet) but it doesn't have coax out.  M-audio (aka
midiman) does make a box called CO3 and it is both an optical/coax converter
and SCMS killer.  So you could go from minidisc to minidisc
digitally--pretty damn sweet.  The box is about $180 I think.  So you could
get the 17D and the box and the card for around $500.  The MJ-17D can be had
for less than $200 brand new on ebay.  No MDLP, but a CD only holds 74
minutes anyway.

If SCMS removal is not an issue, and you only need to record to PC, then
consider some Sony models.  The JB920 is pretty inexpensive, but it has a
problem where it kills discs.  I read this on minidisc.org where they ran
indie tests on 5 brands of minidisc.  Failure rate was 50% even with good
Sony discs.  Sony later admitted that the opening for MD insertion was too
narrow and fixed later models.  But you don't know which model you're gonna
get do you?  So stay away from the JB920 as far as I know.  The JB930 is
sweet, but none seems to be going around right now, and it's not MDLP.

I like the JB940.

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Re: MD: MD-CD-R conversions needed

1999-10-08 Thread Doug


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From: Magic
But you leave out one important point - this list goes all over the world!
Where about in it are you?

My apologies.  I live in the U.S.  I don't mind the transfers being done
overseas, but I'd prefer to find someone in the U.S. if possible.

By the way, I also have a couple of DAT's I need transferred to CD-R.  If
anyone can also handle that (digital transfers onto one track will suffice
as I can edit the CD later), let me know.

D.R.

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Re: MD: MD-CD-R conversions needed

1999-10-07 Thread Magic


Doug wrote:

  If anyone can do this, please get in touch with me.  I'd be
 happy to pay for materials and postage.

But you leave out one important point - this list goes all over the world! Where
about in it are you?

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