RE: MD: Re: Recording speeds

2001-06-19 Thread Tony Antoniou


I would imagine that it is hardware dependent as there is no real digital
audio standard from the USB's point of view. It wouldn't be of any AES/EBU
or S/PDIF standard, that is for sure.


Adios,
LarZ

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Just what is the audio signal that the USB port puts out?  Or is it
hardware dependent?  I had a digital Xitel that I returned because it
could not constantly stream.  But it seemed to me that if it did work any
audio that I played on my computer, regardless of the format would be
converted to optical PCM.



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Re: MD: Re: Recording speeds

2001-06-17 Thread Eric Woudenberg, Minidisc.org Editor


Stainless Steel Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 * Stuart Howlette [EMAIL PROTECTED]  on Fri, 15 Jun 2001
 | Not a mention of high speed,
 
 Ahem.  The context of this discussion is, paraphrased, moving music from
 computers to MD equipment faster than S/PDIF.  S/PDIF doesn't do that
 (obviously :).  AES/EBU doesn't do that.  TTL doesn't do that (maybe it
 could, but that would be very ugly).  IR controllers don't do that.  PCx
 controllers don't do that.  Line out doesn't do that.
 
 The -- singular -- standard for this is IEEE 1394.

I'm missing something, why can't USB do that? In the realm of PC to
Solid State MP3 player connectivity at least, USB is certainly the
standard.

Rick
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Re: MD: Re: Recording speeds

2001-06-17 Thread Stuart Howlette


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Re: MD: Re: Recording speeds

2001-06-17 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen


On Sun, 17 Jun 2001, Eric Woudenberg, Minidisc.org Editor wrote:

[...]
  The -- singular -- standard for this is IEEE 1394.
 
 I'm missing something, why can't USB do that? In the realm of PC to
 Solid State MP3 player connectivity at least, USB is certainly the
 standard.

USB is really slow. I'm too tired to quite figure out what 4x
recording speed would require, but I could imagine that it'd be more
than USB can give.


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Re: MD: Re: Recording speeds

2001-06-17 Thread Marc Britten


it probably can, but Firewire has all of the stuff in place. but then again so do USB 
CD-R's

its probably a bit different going to solid state MP3 players since all your doing is 
dumping a file, here you would need to turn the mp3 audio into a viable digital 
source(like the PCLink or Xitel stuff does through sound card type api's) then the 
digital source goes into the MD player which converts it to ATRAC and writes it to 
disc.

marc

On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 05:51:01AM -0400, Eric Woudenberg, Minidisc.org Editor wrote:
 
  The -- singular -- standard for this is IEEE 1394.
 
 I'm missing something, why can't USB do that? In the realm of PC to
 Solid State MP3 player connectivity at least, USB is certainly the
 standard.
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Re: MD: Re: Recording speeds

2001-06-17 Thread Eric Woudenberg, Minidisc.org Editor


Marc Britten [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 it probably can, but Firewire has all of the stuff in place. but
 then again so do USB CD-R's
 
 its probably a bit different going to solid state MP3 players since
 all your doing is dumping a file, here you would need to turn the
 mp3 audio into a viable digital source(like the PCLink or Xitel
 stuff does through sound card type api's) then the digital source
 goes into the MD player which converts it to ATRAC and writes it to
 disc.

Sorry, I was assuming (as with the Sony MDS-LSA1), that it was to be
ATRAC data flowing over the link. In this case, existing USB drivers
and components that transport 44.1khz 16bit PCM data would do equally
well transporting ATRAC1 at up to 4.8x realtime and ATRAC3 at up to
~20x realtime -- probably limited by MD drive write speed in any case.
(This means that a 5 minute LP4 song download could be done in some 15
seconds!).

So -- I like firewire too, but how does it do as a keyboard and mouse
interface?

Rick

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Re: MD: Re: Recording speeds

2001-06-17 Thread las



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Eric Woudenberg, Minidisc.org Editor wrote:

 Marc Britten [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
  it probably can, but Firewire has all of the stuff in place. but
  then again so do USB CD-R's
 
  its probably a bit different going to solid state MP3 players since
  all your doing is dumping a file, here you would need to turn the
  mp3 audio into a viable digital source(like the PCLink or Xitel
  stuff does through sound card type api's) then the digital source
  goes into the MD player which converts it to ATRAC and writes it to
  disc.

 Sorry, I was assuming (as with the Sony MDS-LSA1), that it was to be
 ATRAC data flowing over the link. In this case, existing USB drivers
 and components that transport 44.1khz 16bit PCM data would do equally
 well transporting ATRAC1 at up to 4.8x realtime and ATRAC3 at up to
 ~20x realtime -- probably limited by MD drive write speed in any case.
 (This means that a 5 minute LP4 song download could be done in some 15
 seconds!).

Just what is the audio signal that the USB port puts out?  Or is it
hardware dependent?  I had a digital Xitel that I returned because it
could not constantly stream.  But it seemed to me that if it did work any
audio that I played on my computer, regardless of the format would be
converted to optical PCM.



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