Re: MD: Bit 4 bit digital card
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:58:51 -0700 From: Steve Corey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: Bit 4 bit digital card What motherboard did you use with the Nightingale? What other cards were in your system? I'm using the Nightingale in an Asus P2B w/Celeron A 400, Intel PCI Pro 100 Ethernet, Adaptec 2940AU SCSI and Elsa Gloria Synergy AGP video card. Some people have reported problems like yours, and I'm wondering if the Nightingale just doesn't work well with some systems. - -steve I don't think that is that important. I tried the card on 4 different computers and got the same bad results: P-120, P-166, P2-200 (Compaq DeskPro 4000), P3-550. My friend (P-166) had exactly the same input problems (minus the initial noise) and now he uses it only for output. I'll try to come up with the list of my hardware for you, though. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Bit 4 bit digital card
KVE wrote: I don't think that is that important. I tried the card on 4 different computers and got the same bad results: P-120, P-166, P2-200 (Compaq DeskPro 4000), P3-550. My friend (P-166) had exactly the same input problems (minus the initial noise) and now he uses it only for output. I'll try to come up with the list of my hardware for you, though. I do think that the motherboard has a lot to do with soundcard problems. I just saw a post on the DAT-Heads mailing list from a fellow who has the Nightingale working with no problem on an ASUS P2B. And there is a known problem with the Zefiro ZA2 and VIA Apollo Pro 133 chipsets. It seems that some bits of hardware just doesn't get along with each other. -steve - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Bit 4 bit digital card
On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Steve Corey wrote: I do think that the motherboard has a lot to do with soundcard problems. I just saw a post on the DAT-Heads mailing list from a fellow who has the Nightingale working with no problem on an ASUS P2B. And there is a known problem with the Zefiro ZA2 and VIA Apollo Pro 133 chipsets. It seems that some bits of hardware just doesn't get along with each other. VIA chipsets are notorious for compatibility issues. I would just buy the Midiman/M Audio 2448 which has coax and optical in and out, but it is $60 more. Josh - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Bit 4 bit digital card
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:14:00 -0700 From: Steve Corey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: Bit 4 bit digital card Javier Marcet wrote: do you know what the cheapest sound card allowing to make bit for bit digital transfers could be (at least at 16 bit, 44.1KHz)? An absolute requirement is working under Windows 2000 (Linux would be a plus). SC The Zoltrix Nightingale with Optical Upgrade Kit for about $40.00 (USD) SC It has been verified that it does bit-for-bit transfers. Here is a link SC to a FAQ on it: http://pipedreamer.bizland.com/zoltrix/ I must say that I am impressed by this card, it is definitely a steal, and you say it does bit for bit transfers! I have two questions. First, do you know if the Pro 6 model will be the same (as for the bit4bit)? I think it has the same chip, but it comes with 6 analog outputs and the optical kit by default. Second. Is there any drawback on it? I currently have a SBLive! but after seeing this I'm about to sell it and get ahold of a Zoltrix Nightingale Pro 6 board. Thanks for the information :)) Sorry, I don't know anything about the Pro 6 model. If it doesn't have any fancy DSP on it, then it will probably do bit for bit transfers. But that's pure speculation on my part. I have found no drawbacks to the Nightingale. I only use it for recording to/from DAT or Minidisc, and it just works. Plain and simple. What more could you want from it? Yeah, toss the SBLive. Its onboard DSP makes it unsuitable for exact digital transfers. And the fact that you can't bypass the DSP. - -steve I have found a lot of problems with Nightingale. One is the fact that it doesn't do any reclocking of its own and lacks the coax in. That means that if you are using a cheap optical cable you are bound to get the timing problems. I was using one of the older Sony cables and loosing about 2 minutes on a 59-minute recording. Drivers are strange too (although I did install the card together with the optical board). I was also getting a lot of noise when I started playing my digital source. That would go away after playing with card's configuration. After a while I gave up on it and bought DIO 2448 and I have been happy with it ever since. It it just an I/O board and it doesn't have MIDI or any of this stuff. It doesn't do reclocking either, but it has coax inputs and outputs and with CO2 (which seems to do reclocking) everything works fine. It works flawlessly as long as there are no IRQ conflicts. So if you are into DIY, then Nightingale might be for you... __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Bit 4 bit digital card
KVE wrote: I have found a lot of problems with Nightingale. One is the fact that it doesn't do any reclocking of its own and lacks the coax in. That means that if you are using a cheap optical cable you are bound to get the timing problems. I was using one of the older Sony cables and loosing about 2 minutes on a 59-minute recording. Drivers are strange too (although I did install the card together with the optical board). I was also getting a lot of noise when I started playing my digital source. That would go away after playing with card's configuration. After a while I gave up on it and bought DIO 2448 and I have been happy with it ever since. It it just an I/O board and it doesn't have MIDI or any of this stuff. It doesn't do reclocking either, but it has coax inputs and outputs and with CO2 (which seems to do reclocking) everything works fine. It works flawlessly as long as there are no IRQ conflicts. So if you are into DIY, then Nightingale might be for you... What motherboard did you use with the Nightingale? What other cards were in your system? I'm using the Nightingale in an Asus P2B w/Celeron A 400, Intel PCI Pro 100 Ethernet, Adaptec 2940AU SCSI and Elsa Gloria Synergy AGP video card. Some people have reported problems like yours, and I'm wondering if the Nightingale just doesn't work well with some systems. -steve - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Bit 4 bit digital card
Javier Marcet wrote: do you know what the cheapest sound card allowing to make bit for bit digital transfers could be (at least at 16 bit, 44.1KHz)? An absolute requirement is working under Windows 2000 (Linux would be a plus). The Zoltrix Nightingale with Optical Upgrade Kit for about $40.00 (USD) It has been verified that it does bit-for-bit transfers. Here is a link to a FAQ on it: http://pipedreamer.bizland.com/zoltrix/ -steve - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Bit 4 bit digital card
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, February 26, 2001 at 07:47:01GMT -0700 (which was 15:47 where I live), Steve Corey wrote a few words about "MD: Bit 4 bit digital card": do you know what the cheapest sound card allowing to make bit for bit digital transfers could be (at least at 16 bit, 44.1KHz)? An absolute requirement is working under Windows 2000 (Linux would be a plus). SC The Zoltrix Nightingale with Optical Upgrade Kit for about $40.00 (USD) SC It has been verified that it does bit-for-bit transfers. Here is a link SC to a FAQ on it: http://pipedreamer.bizland.com/zoltrix/ I must say that I am impressed by this card, it is definitely a steal, and you say it does bit for bit transfers! I have two questions. First, do you know if the Pro 6 model will be the same (as for the bit4bit)? I think it has the same chip, but it comes with 6 analog outputs and the optical kit by default. Second. Is there any drawback on it? I currently have a SBLive! but after seeing this I'm about to sell it and get ahold of a Zoltrix Nightingale Pro 6 board. Thanks for the information :)) - -- Best regards, Javier Marcet mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more 'user-friendly' Their best approach, so far, has been to take all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover. -- Bill Gates _ PGP Key-ID: 0x53B1551D | PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendPGPKey Using The Bat! 1.49e under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1, RC 1.1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.3 Comment: PGP secured to ensure author's identity iQA/AwUBOpqHpcROAadTsVUdEQLf9ACghvUe3FdNA45HyguO57DZtHnFpQUAoI+0 iKF3AurkNvkDESC3L7c9pV1A =nYXb -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Bit 4 bit digital card
Javier Marcet wrote: do you know what the cheapest sound card allowing to make bit for bit digital transfers could be (at least at 16 bit, 44.1KHz)? An absolute requirement is working under Windows 2000 (Linux would be a plus). SC The Zoltrix Nightingale with Optical Upgrade Kit for about $40.00 (USD) SC It has been verified that it does bit-for-bit transfers. Here is a link SC to a FAQ on it: http://pipedreamer.bizland.com/zoltrix/ I must say that I am impressed by this card, it is definitely a steal, and you say it does bit for bit transfers! I have two questions. First, do you know if the Pro 6 model will be the same (as for the bit4bit)? I think it has the same chip, but it comes with 6 analog outputs and the optical kit by default. Second. Is there any drawback on it? I currently have a SBLive! but after seeing this I'm about to sell it and get ahold of a Zoltrix Nightingale Pro 6 board. Thanks for the information :)) Sorry, I don't know anything about the Pro 6 model. If it doesn't have any fancy DSP on it, then it will probably do bit for bit transfers. But that's pure speculation on my part. I have found no drawbacks to the Nightingale. I only use it for recording to/from DAT or Minidisc, and it just works. Plain and simple. What more could you want from it? Yeah, toss the SBLive. Its onboard DSP makes it unsuitable for exact digital transfers. And the fact that you can't bypass the DSP. -steve - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
