RE: MD: MD Wins (was Re: Will MD Survive?).
I can connect through my cable modem at almost any time of the day or night to MP3.COM and get a 128K 44khz streaming playback in about 2 seconds without any stuttering or interruptions. It's not generally the server, it's your connection to the internet, or the routing between you and the server. It also has a great deal to do with the software you use to play the stream. I was never able to get a stable stream with Winamp, but Sonique works great. It could also be that you are doing other things on the computer while playing the audio. That will almost always cause stuttering or pauses. -- Martin On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Magic wrote: > phones, I have yet to actually see a server on the internet that will output > an MP3 stream at a decent bitrate sustained long enough to play without > stuttering. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD Wins (was Re: Will MD Survive?).
Don't forget that technology is evolving more rapidly than at any other time in recorded history. It wasn't so long ago that paying $1000 per megabyte of hard drive was a bargain, and related technologies have made similar advances in the same period. Today, $60 of CPU can encode MP3 in real time. And tomorrow? Some of the advances will bolster the MD side of the equation, but I believe more will go toward appliances that don't have MD's legacy and constraints. I think some of Guy's premises will fall by the wayside within five years, if not sooner. Romain Kang Siemens Info/Comm Products, San Jose R&D [EMAIL PROTECTED] formerly Pyramid Technology Corporation Disclaimer: I represent myself alone, except where otherwise indicated. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD Wins (was Re: Will MD Survive?).
On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Magic wrote: > phones, I have yet to actually see a server on the internet that will output > an MP3 stream at a decent bitrate sustained long enough to play without > stuttering. My ISP has a mp3 stream at 128k 44khz which is pretty darn good, and using the satelite highspeed connection to the ISP you get that stream without lag, withoyut jitter, I'm just pissed off I can't afford the sat connection :( Mark -- Mark Derricutt - Software Developer - http://www.chalice.gen.nz Getting jiggy with - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD Wins (was Re: Will MD Survive?).
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 1/25/00 7:34:03 AM Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > /|\/|\ If they make mobile phones into portable music technology then this > will increase that health risk exponentially, as 1 or 2 minute calls turn > into 2 hour music listening sessions. /|\/|\ > > To heck with the "health risks"! Just imagine how much more your cell phone > bill will be when you realize you've been listening to music for hours a day! > Yuck. > > Say what ya will about MD, but it doesn't give you cancer and it doesn't > cost 15" a minute to use. :-) Well, who could've imagined that an almost dead 'paper-manufacturer' in the tinny Finish vilage of Nokia would start making mobile phones and grow within several years to one of the most prophitable companies in the world? As a side note, 60% of the Finish population has a mobile phone. Remark to this one, the count doesn't exclude childern and elderly! Cheers, Ralph -> can we go back to MD? -- === Ralph SmeetsFunctional Verification Centre Of Competence - CMG Voice: (+33) (0)4 76 58 44 46 STMicroelectronics Fax:(+33) (0)4 76 58 40 11 5, chem de la Dhuy Mobile: (+33) (0)6 82 66 62 70 38240 MEYLAN E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FRANCE === "For many years, mankind lived just like the animals. And then something happened that unleashed the powers of our imagination: We learned to talk." -- Stephen Hawking, later used by Pink Floyd -- === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD Wins (was Re: Will MD Survive?).
In a message dated 1/25/00 7:34:03 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: /|\/|\ If they make mobile phones into portable music technology then this will increase that health risk exponentially, as 1 or 2 minute calls turn into 2 hour music listening sessions. /|\/|\ To heck with the "health risks"! Just imagine how much more your cell phone bill will be when you realize you've been listening to music for hours a day! Yuck. Say what ya will about MD, but it doesn't give you cancer and it doesn't cost 15ยข a minute to use. :-) ~Zach http://start.at/cens - The Cutting Edge of Nothing Significant - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD Wins (was Re: Will MD Survive?).
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > What worries me more is that this will essentially increase the number of > cases of cancer. We already know it to be a fact that prolonged use of > mobile phones, especially over prolonged periods of several minutes or more > at a time, is a large health risk. If they make mobile phones into portable > music technology then this will increase that health risk exponentially, as > 1 or 2 minute calls turn into 2 hour music listening sessions. The quality > from a mobile phone would also not be that great, simply because to > incorporate all the technology needed would make the phones very expensive, > and although the new technology (which we're not supposed to know anything > about yet BTW, ha ha ha) gives rediculous amounts of bandwidth to the > phones, I have yet to actually see a server on the internet that will output > an MP3 stream at a decent bitrate sustained long enough to play without > stuttering. Well, it's the antenna that produces a 'micro-wave' effect. If you use a pedistrian hands-free kit, you limit your risk. It's your brain that can't handle the 1% temperature increase due to this micro-wave called antenna! Well, Sony is into GSM phones, maybee they could build in a MD recorder Cheers, Ralph -- === Ralph SmeetsFunctional Verification Centre Of Competence - CMG Voice: (+33) (0)4 76 58 44 46 STMicroelectronics Fax:(+33) (0)4 76 58 40 11 5, chem de la Dhuy Mobile: (+33) (0)6 82 66 62 70 38240 MEYLAN E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FRANCE === "For many years, mankind lived just like the animals. And then something happened that unleashed the powers of our imagination: We learned to talk." -- Stephen Hawking, later used by Pink Floyd -- === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD Wins (was Re: Will MD Survive?).
From: Ralph Smeets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 10:13 AM Subject: Re: MD: MD Wins (was Re: Will MD Survive?). > There is only one thing that wories me... Mobile phones and the > upcomming new standard > will allow us to listen to MP3 music using our phone. It will allow us > to connect to a > site and listen to it! It's not a joke, you could have seen prototypes > on the Geneva > telecominication conference. It's due for somewhere between 2002 and > 2005! What worries me more is that this will essentially increase the number of cases of cancer. We already know it to be a fact that prolonged use of mobile phones, especially over prolonged periods of several minutes or more at a time, is a large health risk. If they make mobile phones into portable music technology then this will increase that health risk exponentially, as 1 or 2 minute calls turn into 2 hour music listening sessions. The quality from a mobile phone would also not be that great, simply because to incorporate all the technology needed would make the phones very expensive, and although the new technology (which we're not supposed to know anything about yet BTW, ha ha ha) gives rediculous amounts of bandwidth to the phones, I have yet to actually see a server on the internet that will output an MP3 stream at a decent bitrate sustained long enough to play without stuttering. > Cheers, > Ralph -> who had to be very carefull since he knows more than he is > allowed to write! I wouldn't worry Ralph, it's probably already been talked about in several computer magazines Magic -- "Creativity is more a birthright than an acquisition, and the power of sound is wisdom and understanding applied to the power of vibration." Location : Portsmouth, England, UK Homepage : http://www.mattnet.freeserve.co.uk EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD Wins (was Re: Will MD Survive?).
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Ralph wrote: > > > There is only one thing that wories me... Mobile phones and the > > upcomming new standard > > will allow us to listen to MP3 music using our phone. It will allow us > > to connect to a > > site and listen to it! > > > At mobile phone rates ? Listen to music while your brain fries ? Mmm Mmm, I > want it NOW ! > > simon Well, mobile phone rates are still going down... 100kbit transmission are being introduced this year. Video-conferencing by mobile phone is to be expected in 2003-2005 One certain provider (SFR) already offers free communication between 20:00 and 7:00 and during the weekend Cheers, Ralph -> who's thinking of the ultimate 'gadget': PalmPilot+GSM+MD in one device. Oh yeah, it would be nice if it could take pictures and if it could do the laundry. -- === Ralph SmeetsFunctional Verification Centre Of Competence - CMG Voice: (+33) (0)4 76 58 44 46 STMicroelectronics Fax:(+33) (0)4 76 58 40 11 5, chem de la Dhuy Mobile: (+33) (0)6 82 66 62 70 38240 MEYLAN E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FRANCE === "For many years, mankind lived just like the animals. And then something happened that unleashed the powers of our imagination: We learned to talk." -- Stephen Hawking, later used by Pink Floyd -- === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: MD Wins (was Re: Will MD Survive?).
Ralph wrote: > There is only one thing that wories me... Mobile phones and the > upcomming new standard > will allow us to listen to MP3 music using our phone. It will allow us > to connect to a > site and listen to it! > At mobile phone rates ? Listen to music while your brain fries ? Mmm Mmm, I want it NOW ! simon - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD Wins (was Re: Will MD Survive?).
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Sometime I think that those of us that have a PC automatically assume that > everyone else in the world has a PC too. Obviously this is not true, and while > the awareness of PC's has certainly risen to heady heights many people still > only use them at work or not at all. MP3 is reliant on PC's .. MD is not, > sure I have a great PC (PIII500, 256MbRAM, 13Gb HDD, SCSI CDR), > but not everyone does. In the USA and in Europe, 10% of the population has a PC. That equals about 1 out of three families. This number stays the same. It doesn't grow. The PC market has reached a point where it's a 'replacement' market. For MP3 to breakthru, people will need the means to download and archive the MP3 files... I've seen one other solution than a PC. A sollution comming from TeraTec. But it was offcourse expensive. Philips tried to introduce CDR recording in the form of a CDR home deck. They saw a big 'market' due to the PC based CD Recorders. They made a mistake... People who where in CD Recording already had a PC. and people who wanted to record digital, already had DAT or MD. It's the same I think for MP3. PC users will use it, but others not. There is only one thing that wories me... Mobile phones and the upcomming new standard will allow us to listen to MP3 music using our phone. It will allow us to connect to a site and listen to it! It's not a joke, you could have seen prototypes on the Geneva telecominication conference. It's due for somewhere between 2002 and 2005! Cheers, Ralph -> who had to be very carefull since he knows more than he is allowed to write! -- === Ralph SmeetsFunctional Verification Centre Of Competence - CMG Voice: (+33) (0)4 76 58 44 46 STMicroelectronics Fax:(+33) (0)4 76 58 40 11 5, chem de la Dhuy Mobile: (+33) (0)6 82 66 62 70 38240 MEYLAN E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FRANCE === "For many years, mankind lived just like the animals. And then something happened that unleashed the powers of our imagination: We learned to talk." -- Stephen Hawking, later used by Pink Floyd -- === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
