Re: MD: Subject: Sony has seen the light!
Today, there is the JE330 and the one with the CD/MD combo deck, MZ-R70, Sharp MD-MT15, a couple play-only portables, and a few blanks. [...] It looks much less exciting for MD at Best Buy now, and I find it a little disappointing.(Shawn Lin) I just set that planogram last week, and I had to flex in two new MD portables that weren't even on the planogram! We have more MD portables now than we've ever had. In addition to the MZ-R70 and the MD-MT15, we also have the MZ-R55 with the USB interface, the MZ-R37, the MZ-E60, (one other Sony playback model whose model number I cannot remember), and the Audiophase MDP-1. At least portable-wise, it's never been more exciting at Best Buy! Daryl - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Subject: Sony has seen the light!
"Shawn R. Lin" wrote: Circuit City had the MDS-JB920 for a little while in 1998, but now they don't have MD equipment at all. They do, however, have CD recorders. I haven't been in the local Circuit City since before xmass, but the last time I looked, they had simply moved the MD equipment. -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Subject: Sony has seen the light!
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === I stopped going to circuit city when they decided to be evil and intorduce Divx. sorry for the rant. - Original Message - From: J. Coon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 7:39 AM Subject: Re: MD: Subject: Sony has seen the light! "Shawn R. Lin" wrote: Circuit City had the MDS-JB920 for a little while in 1998, but now they don't have MD equipment at all. They do, however, have CD recorders. I haven't been in the local Circuit City since before xmass, but the last time I looked, they had simply moved the MD equipment. -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Subject: Sony has seen the light!
Matt Wall wrote: I stopped going to circuit city when they decided to be evil and intorduce Divx. sorry for the rant. As I recall, they had to buy back all the units they sold when they discontinued the format. I think they lost a lot of money on that and I doubt they will try it again. -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Subject: Sony has seen the light!
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === They didn't buy back diddly squat from what i read. I'm just still pissed that they tried to split the format. and yes they lost some serious and i hope they go out of business :) - Original Message - From: J. Coon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 7:18 AM Subject: Re: MD: Subject: Sony has seen the light! Matt Wall wrote: I stopped going to circuit city when they decided to be evil and intorduce Divx. sorry for the rant. As I recall, they had to buy back all the units they sold when they discontinued the format. I think they lost a lot of money on that and I doubt they will try it again. -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Subject: Sony has seen the light!
On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 08:39:09 -0400 "J. Coon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Shawn R. Lin" wrote: Circuit City had the MDS-JB920 for a little while in 1998, but now they don't have MD equipment at all. They do, however, have CD recorders. I haven't been in the local Circuit City since before xmass, but the last time I looked, they had simply moved the MD equipment. Both of mine around here have a MD area with the stereo equipment. They highly recccomend it. -J.R. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Subject: Sony has seen the light!
Matt White wrote: Huh? Companies already spend far more on MiniDisc than they do on MP3. There really isn't all that much MP3 stuff out there, yet. Meanwhile Sony and Sharp and friends seem to keep pumping out new MD units of varying types. You must live in a metropolitan area! Where I live, we only have two big electronics stores that EVERYONE shops at for electronics: Best Buy and Circuit City. In both places, sadly, MD has come and gone. Best Buy had MD a long time ago, since it came out. I remember seeing the cool MDS-501 there back in the early 90's. However, they only ever had 1 or 2 units. They DID however, have a prerecorded MD stand, which went away sometime in '94 or so. Then in 1998, I started getting excited because the MDS-JE520/JE320/R30/R50, several minisystems, and a whole slew of portables showed up. MD got its own aisle, and the prerecorded MDs came back, a whole ton of MD blanks from different companies were offered, and MD got its own endcap with a caveman video. Today, there is the JE330 and the one with the CD/MD combo deck, MZ-R70, Sharp MD-MT15, a couple play-only portables, and a few blanks. The rest of the aisle is filled with at least 4 or 5 different audio CD-recorders, and there are at least 5 MP3 players where MD players used to be. The endcap is still there, but I didn't look to see if they changed it to advertise CD recorders or not. It looks much less exciting for MD at Best Buy now, and I find it a little disappointing. As for Circuit City, I HEARD that other cities actually had Aiwa and Sony portables. None ever showed up at the local one here. Circuit City had the MDS-JB920 for a little while in 1998, but now they don't have MD equipment at all. They do, however, have CD recorders. It's nice to see the price of MD blanks has dropped over the years, but it looks like retailer interest has dropped as well, at least here, where I think I am a lone MD user. -- Shawn Lin http://www2.cybercities.com/g/gmwbodycars/ _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Subject: Sony has seen the light!
I disagree 100% on companies raising the price on MD players. Competition 99.9% always decreases the cost of items. Unless someone at diamond and all the rest of the MP3 producting players decide to go crazy and raise thier prices to $400 and idiots still buy them, prices will drop. This is evident by the cost of the R55 lately. Look at JR it's around ~$160 now. IMO this is a pretty descent unit, i have one and am very pleased with it. when it came out it was around $350 at best buy, now you can get it for $250 there and a lot less on the internet. I'm glad the medium is getting more popular, and i'm sure that prices will drop. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:32 AM Subject: MD: Subject: Sony has seen the light! this can be a good thing or bad thing. true, more of the quote "little ones" will have discovered the minidisc, but the price on minidisc will probably go up due to the popular demand. i also dont think other companies are going to spend as much money on minidisc technology than on mp3. ultimately, i feel that companies are going to raise their prices on minidisc equipment due to higher demand, and continue to develope and produce mp3 players at cheaper prices and better quality. it all depends on how u see the minidisc economy. alex - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Subject: Sony has seen the light!
Of course large companies can be very dumb... but if they really understand this market supply/demand thing, I don't think they'll want to raise the prices. I'd forgotten what it's called, but in marketing, there's one strategy in which you keep the prices up until the demand really drops significantly. This way, the people who don't want to wait for price drop will pay the higher price, and then everyone else buys after the price drop. I used to live in Thailand, where Sony and Sharp basically offers what they offer in the US. Remember approximately 37 Thai Baht is 1 US dollar, so: Sony had kept MD-related things very expensive. One color collection blank was like 200-300 Baht, the MZ-E35 cost 13000 Baht. But after several months, Sony cut the prices, so that one blank goes at 99 Baht, and the E35 sells for between 6-7000 Baht. The R55 also used to be expensive, but dropped to about 1 Baht. The price never went up again even with newer models replacing the old ones. I think Sony knew that keeping the price up didn't work. Also - at least in Japan - the companies now recognize 2 yen (street price, not MSRP) as a crucial mark. Models that cut below 2 yen sell fairly well, like the JVC XM-PX3. JVC said those are mostly bought by primary and junior high kids. :) And remember, in Japan you can get Sharp/Sony/Panasonic boomboxes usually for less than their portable recorders. If I buy a Panasonic MDX5, I get digital dubbing without the cable hassle, I get the new HDES chip, I get a remote with a keypad, plus I get two speakers, for less than what I'd pay on a MR100. Leon this can be a good thing or bad thing. true, more of the quote "little ones" will have discovered the minidisc, but the price on minidisc will probably go up due to the popular demand. i also dont think other companies are going to spend as much money on minidisc technology than on mp3. ultimately, i feel that companies are going to raise their prices on minidisc equipment due to higher demand, and continue to develope and produce mp3 players at cheaper prices and better quality. it all depends on how u see the minidisc economy. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Subject: Sony has seen the light!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this can be a good thing or bad thing. true, more of the quote "little ones" will have discovered the minidisc, but the price on minidisc will probably go up due to the popular demand. Huh... I've got into minidisc about 2.5 years ago! Then it was still quite expenesive: 1) the equipment costed the same as now, but with less functionality 2) the blanks where about 3 times more expensive i also dont think other companies are going to spend as much money on minidisc technology than on mp3. I can't think of ONE respectable audio company that is into MP3. I can come up with a dozen that are into MD. ultimately, i feel that companies are going to raise their prices on minidisc equipment due to higher demand, and continue to develope and produce mp3 players at cheaper prices and better quality. it all depends on how u see the minidisc economy. alex Nope, I think most of them will folow Sony and Sharps example. Take a good oldie, like the MZ-R30 or Sharp 702 and sell them cheap. (Sony however did redesign the 'exterior' and renamed their MZ-R35. In order to reduce the cost more, they made the outside out of plastic, hence the MZ-R37). Most soundcard manufacturers start making soundcards with a optical out. It's in most cases promoted as 'minidisc compatible'. I see that more and more people start using MD to record their MP3s. why? simple: 1) MP3 players cost the same as MD portable recorders. The media however is much more cheaper for MDs 2) You don't have to keep your audio-files on the hardisk. 3) You don't have to rip a CD to harddisk and transfer it to your player. You can do it straight to the MD recorder. Thus your PC keeps open for other busines! Cheers, Ralph -- === Ralph SmeetsFunctional Verification Centre Of Competence - CMG Voice: (+33) (0)4 76 58 44 46 STMicroelectronics Fax:(+33) (0)4 76 58 40 11 5, chem de la Dhuy Mobile: (+33) (0)6 82 66 62 70 38240 MEYLAN E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FRANCE === "For many years, mankind lived just like the animals. And then something happened that unleashed the powers of our imagination: We learned to talk." -- Stephen Hawking, later used by Pink Floyd -- === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
